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Vikings say they are looking at five positions with No. 12 pick

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Vikings vice president of player personnel Rick Spielman spoke at a charity event Tuesday.  It should come as no surprise he was vague regarding his draft plans.

“Knowing where we’re going to be at, there will be probably five positions that I know we’ll look at with our 12th pick and then we’ll sort that out,” Spielman said via Judd Zulgad of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune. “Like I said, there are a lot of other needs to fill at that 12th position if it’s not a quarterback. I can tell you this: We’re going to take the best player available when it comes to our pick. That I know.”

Quarterback is obviously one of the five positions.  Zulgad figures the other four include defensive line, cornerback, offensive line, and “probably” wide receiver.

Unless Cam Newton or Blaine Gabbert surprisingly slip to No. 12, taking any other quarterback in this draft that high seems like a reach.  Spielman called quarterback the team’s most “glaring” need but is trying to avoid getting desperate.

“I still think you can’t force quarterback. If you’re not comfortable with it, you’re just going to make a mistake,” Spielman said.

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  1. goombar2 says: Apr 5, 2011 8:56 PM

    vikes need a safety too and probably an upgrade at LBer… What a mess! Rick Spielman should be fired after this year.

  2. foxmtbr says: Apr 5, 2011 8:56 PM

    “I still think you can’t force quarterback. If you’re not comfortable with it, you’re just going to make a mistake,” Spielman said.
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    Like, say, Tarvaris Jackson?

  3. commandercornpone says: Apr 5, 2011 8:59 PM

    there is a qb available down in kiln, ms…

  4. baous says: Apr 5, 2011 9:07 PM

    QB, WR, OL, DL, CB

  5. canadianvikingfaniii says: Apr 5, 2011 9:08 PM

    DE, DT, OL, S, QB. Despite the lousy job the corners did except Antoine, the safeties played the worse out of every group not including the QB carousel.

  6. NFL Football Now says: Apr 5, 2011 9:10 PM

    One of the hardest teams to predict. I gave them busted Da’Quan in my latest Mock Draft.

  7. sakatak says: Apr 5, 2011 9:28 PM

    Vikings will take Mark Ingram if still available.

  8. tfbuckfutter says: Apr 5, 2011 9:42 PM

    I think a good decision would be to trade for Jon Kitna…..Hang on, my phone is ringing…..Holy crap, I was just offered the Vikings’ GM position for life. They said I really “get” their philosophy.

  9. rgledz says: Apr 5, 2011 9:43 PM

    Tarvaris Jackson was drafted before spielman. He’s done a nice job in the draft. He drafted 2 of the last 4 offensive rookies of the year.

  10. brewdogg says: Apr 5, 2011 9:48 PM

    goombar2 says:
    Apr 5, 2011 8:56 PM
    vikes need a safety too and probably an upgrade at LBer… What a mess! Rick Spielman should be fired after this year.
    ——————————————

    Let’s be fair to Spielman here…. While his FA acquisitions can be called into question, his drafts should not. In the 4 drafts he has presided over, 17 of his 26 picks either have or will be occupying signifigant roles on the team, including 8 who have started and 4 others who figure to start this year, and 3 PBers. The fault does not lie with him for the fact that the 5 drafts previous to his have yielded only Greenway, Griffin, Cook, T-jax, Edwards, Jeff Dugan, Kevin Williams, EJ Henderson, and Mckinnie to the 2010 team, and 3 of them will probably not be back.

    To put it in perspective…. The Lions still have a lot of holes to fill, but everyone is still blaming that on Millen.

  11. jebdamone says: Apr 5, 2011 9:49 PM

    @goombar2
    yeah, fire a guy that has drafted two ROYs in the last five years…good plan. most of the poor decisions made by the vikings have not been spielman guys, he is very good at his job.

  12. packerswambulance says: Apr 5, 2011 10:18 PM

    IMO, it was the need for Childress to draft and mold Tarvaris Jackson, and putting him in before he was ready, that set the franchise back. More so than Brett Favre. They’ll soon have nothing for all the time invested and a 2nd round pick. Favre cost no picks and delivered a NFCCG appearance. TJack shat his pants in his playoff appearance. (I guess so did Favre) Hopefully a change of scenery makes a difference for TJack.

  13. JimmySmith says: Apr 5, 2011 10:20 PM

    foxmtbr says: Like, say, Tarvaris Jackson?

    yes, they traded up for T Jack Off but don’t forget, they also traded up for John David Booty and to no avail.

    But if the Vikings are looking for some good news, check out this math. The Packers won the Superbowl with a roster of 53, 15 on IR plus 8 incoming draft picks. That means the Packers will have to cut 23 players which translates into treasure chest of players for the Vikings to pick up and sign. They meet all the requirements to be a Viking, they will be all ex Packers, they are not good enough to play for GB and none of them will ever expect to get to the Superbowl.

    Sometimes you just got to think outside of the box. Next up, I will solve the stadium issue for you once Edina High School returns my phone call.

  14. imjinbrdgr says: Apr 5, 2011 10:22 PM

    Why would they need a QB? Just wait till August and “You know who” will be gettin that itch again.

  15. jebdamone says: Apr 5, 2011 10:30 PM

    i think that if robert quinn or tyron smith are still on the board the vikings should grab them, and consider amakamura, otherwise i think they should trade down with someone like the pats so they can pick julio jones at 12 (ahead of the rams) and we can get more picks.

  16. buhbay1c says: Apr 6, 2011 2:12 AM

    JimmySmith says: Sometimes you just got to think outside of the box. Next up, I will solve the stadium issue for you once Edina High School returns my phone call.

    Why would Edina return your call? Are they looking for a guest speaker to inform health classes about the dangers of drinking paint thinner and the horrible message board posts that follow?

  17. heypapi6975 says: Apr 6, 2011 2:32 AM

    Spielman is pretty damn good at his job. He has put together (on paper) solid teams since he took over as VP of Player Personal. It is not his job to coach or progress talent. The Wilf’s MAY have given Childress a little too much “say” during his tenure, but I believe Rick and Leslie will get on the same page.

    The Vikings aren’t as bad as they were last season, and maybe not as good as they were in ’09. BUT the time frame to get it back on track without starting over is getting thin. With the 12th pick they need to take the best player available. At least it would send a smoke screen for teams behind us.

    The ideal situation would be for the Vikes to trade back and acquire an extra mid-round pick (maybe with the 17th overall so the Pats can grab Ingram?). There will be plenty of talent later in the 1st round, like a Gabe Carimi or Mike Pouncey, who could step in and contribute immediately.

  18. theallegedone says: Apr 6, 2011 3:35 AM

    goombar2 says:
    Apr 5, 2011 8:56 PM
    vikes need a safety too and probably an upgrade at LBer… What a mess! Rick Spielman should be fired after this year.
    ———————————————-

    What a dumb f*ck you are. Upgrade at LB? The Vikings have one of the MOST UNDERRATED LB Corps in all of football. With Greenway, Henderson & Leber? Upgrade? Idiot

  19. sterling7 says: Apr 6, 2011 8:14 AM

    Spielman had absolutely nothing to do with Tarvaris Jackson, also Spielman was adamant about NOT getting Brett Favre, that was totally Brad Childress. And when we get so excited about drafting a quaterback let’s not get so hyped up on the fact that it has to be in the first round. Remember Johnny Unitas was drafted in the ninth round. As a lover and student of football on all levels especially college and NFL I still say Johnny Unitas is the greatest quarterback of all, forget statistics, I’ll prove it. While all other quarterbacks are compared (constantly) to Johnny Unitas-Johnny Unitas is compared to none! (think about it)

  20. pistolsmoke says: Apr 6, 2011 9:28 AM

    I say Vikings draft a Tackle in the first round and a QB in the second. I bet either Mallett or Locker will still be available when they draft in the second round. And resign Sidney Rice.

  21. spawnsacs says: Apr 6, 2011 9:41 AM

    “Spielman is pretty damn good at his job. He has put together (on paper) solid teams since he took over as VP of Player Personal.”

    Funniest post I have ever read. How many paper games are played each year? How many paper playoff games do teams play in each year. And most importantly, how many paper Lmobardi trophies are handed out each year?

    Chilldress was one of the most highly sought after coaches in the league when he was hired by the Vikings. And if I am not mistaken…when Favre notified the Vikings last year that he was not coming back…it was the Vikings brass (Ziggy, Speilman, etc) that were huddled on the field and frantically trying to figure out what to do.

    Maybe the Vikings will trade their 12th pick for Nick Barnett and an air compressor to re-inflate their dome. Do you know why the Packers have the 32nd pick this year?

  22. tuckercarlsonisthevoiceofreason says: Apr 6, 2011 1:10 PM

    Spielman wanted Sage Rosenfels on a bed of rice pilaf and Chilly wanted T-Joke. If we still had Sage, we could wait until next year to get that QB of the future rather than reaching for one in the first round or picking up an underachiever in the second round.

  23. jebdamone says: Apr 6, 2011 1:44 PM

    i really wish people would stop talking about sage as much as i wish they would stop talking about tyler thigpen. sage had two years to beat out tjoke and he couldn’t even do that. he has no business on a football field as a starting QB, if he did it would have happened 5-8 years ago. as for tyler thigpen, where is he now?

  24. norsedrew says: Apr 6, 2011 4:29 PM

    I know everyone and his brother is looking for Jones to go to St.Louis but I don’t think they are going to get him. Either the Vikings will trade away the #12 (to drop down in round #1 where they will pick up an OT/OG/C and to pick up the lost 3rd rounder) or if they don’t find someone to trade with then I am going way out on a limb and say that it will be the Vikings who pick the best WR in this years draft (I prefer him better than Green).

    Don’t forget they went and drafted Randy Moss at the SAME TIME they already had Chris Carter and Jake Reed.

    I say Draft the player with the best chance to be an all pro (not simply a pro-bowl player).

    Don’t draft based on need in the first round (unless the need can be filled with a future 1st team all pro). Fill in the team needs with the rest of the draft and with free agents.

    If they end up with Rice, Jones and Harvin that could end up simply awesome for them.

    They could still pick a QB in round 2 that will be just as good as anyone they would get at the #12 spot and will be able to battle with Joe Webb for the back up spot (most QB’s in this draft will be career back ups or out of the league in a couple of years anyway).

    Even better they could skip the rookie QB all together and use their pick in round two to pick up the best OT/OG/C available. Then just pick up any old free agent QB this year.

    Then…NEXT YEAR the Vikings go all out and trade up to get Andrew Luck no matter what the cost. Does anyone really think this is the Vikings year to win the Super Bowl anyway??

    Why not have Andrew Luck come to the Vikings next year with Peterson, Rice, Harvin and JONES!!

    The Vikings just might have the THIRD recent rookie of the year in Jones.

    Is this really that far fetched? (I put this similar thought on a St. Louis Rams board the other day and they thought it was crazy…never happen…and just plain stupid)

  25. pwrback2 says: Apr 6, 2011 4:58 PM

    @jebdamone, the reason Sage couldn’t beat out TJ is TJ was Childress’s pick and was trying to save face. norsedrew I don’t think it’s too crazy at all. but I do think Jones is going to St. Louis, gonna be a interesting draft as it usually is.

  26. PurpleRaid18 says: Apr 6, 2011 5:11 PM

    “Next up, I will solve the stadium issue for you once Edina High School returns my phone call.”
    ____________________________________

    Why does it matter? I thought you weren’t allowed within 200 yards of any high school.

  27. goombar2 says: Apr 7, 2011 12:46 AM

    The vike ROY are AP and Harvin? AP is solid, but this is a pass first league – Harvin though? He’s a slot wr and return man. I’m not saying that’s a dime a dozen thing, but if all you guys are is a team of skill guys (minus a QB) it’s not going to work. Without Rice, we all saw the “greatness” that was Percy Harvin.

    Stuff like that works great in fantasy football, not so well in the NFL (where the motto is Not For Long).

    Sorry, you’re “underrated” LBers aren’t that good. The premiere guy is Greenway. And he’s good, but not great. The other two, Leber and EJ, are no better than journeymen. You guys are way overvaluing them and there’s nothing behind that trio. Because the LBers are so mediocre it forced the vikes to pay Greenway much more than what he’s worth.

  28. ted1sheckler says: Apr 7, 2011 6:38 PM

    goombar2 says:
    Apr 7, 2011 12:46 AM
    The vike ROY are AP and Harvin? AP is solid, but this is a pass first league – Harvin though? He’s a slot wr and return man. I’m not saying that’s a dime a dozen thing, but if all you guys are is a team of skill guys (minus a QB) it’s not going to work. Without Rice, we all saw the “greatness” that was Percy Harvin.

    Stuff like that works great in fantasy football, not so well in the NFL (where the motto is Not For Long).

    Sorry, you’re “underrated” LBers aren’t that good. The premiere guy is Greenway. And he’s good, but not great. The other two, Leber and EJ, are no better than journeymen. You guys are way overvaluing them and there’s nothing behind that trio. Because the LBers are so mediocre it forced the vikes to pay Greenway much more than what he’s worth.

    ================================
    I always like it when a rival teams fan, talent evaluates the rivals team. “they aren’t that good”. Uff. Like someone will take your word for it? Journeyman? that is laughable, about the only thing right about your synopsis is that there isn’t much LB depth. Greenway will get a long term contract, you can’t be that dumb to think they will pay him $10 mil, or can you?
    Harvin missed a few games and their was inconsistent play at QB all year long, yet let’s blame Harving because he is on the Vikings team.

    Go sit on your Packer thread, you offer nothing of relevance here.

  29. goombar2 says: Apr 7, 2011 11:43 PM

    Look, there are 32 teams in the NFL, where do you rate EJ amongst the MLBers? Is he top 5? No. Is he top ten? No… He’s maybe somewhere in the middle. That’s Journeyman. And Leber? Same thing. If either of those guys got cut are they assured a job anywhere for big money? No.

    How you guys can think this LB corp is in the mix of what the Packers have or Chicago, or the Ravens, or the Steelers, or the Jets or NO… You guys are way down the list, and as your D-line has aged the Lber have been exposed. I think just about anybody that watches football can see that.

    And I’m not picking on Harvin’s production per say, I’m not picking on him at all. What I’m saying is that playing the slot is a particular position that is limiting – especially if you have no Wrs on the perimeter to stretch the field. Slot isn’t the sole position of great Wrs, but that’s all Harvin can play.

    My biggest beef, sticking to the subject at hand again, is that Spielman gradually let things get out of hand by giving up draft picks and making certain trades that weren’t in the best long term interest of the franchise. He also assumes that having a bunch of skill guys will lead to a productive offense. Or that defenses can be arranged with quick plug-ins.

    It’s like he’s a guy that only watches where the football goes – like Matt Millen. Even worse than Millen though (if that were possible) he seemed to have succeeded his authority over personnel to a former coach and allows the owner carte blanche to throw his weight around too.

    That you fans defend this amazes me. It’s as though you think it was bad luck what happened last year and that this year it’s Super Bowl or bust again. It was really just good luck you guys got the best year of Favre in 2009 and very few injuries.

    So I’ll toss it back at you, I always love it when the hometown homers try defending what they know is a formula for disaster the whole time trying to block out reason and common sense.

  30. brewdogg says: Apr 9, 2011 12:49 AM

    All right goombar, I’ll field it….

    First, let’s discuss your definition of “journeyman”…. I have always considered a journeyman to be a career back-up who occasionally starts but is always in danger of being replaced. Henderson and Leber have always been starters and have never been candidates to be replaced. And Leber was a starter in SD before coming back closer to home, so it’s not just a Vikings thing. If you’re definition of ‘journeyman’ is only being better than half the other starters in the league and therefore needing to be replaced, than I think we could identify a dozen or so ‘journeymen’ in the Packers starting lineup. But let’s not argue individual merits….. Where does the unit rank against the rest of the league? Well…..
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/531730-power-ranking-the-top-linebacker-units-in-the-nfl/page/24
    Each ranking will differ, this is just the first one I found, but I think it’s fair to say top third would be a fair assessment, and not “way down the list”.

    Second, I’m going to assume that comment about giving away draft picks was a)another shot at the Moss deal, which no one is defending, so give it up, and b)another shot at Jared Allen. Okay, you have forced me to make you look stupid….

    Goombar’s Packer-centric POV leads him to believe that the Jared Allen trade is foolish and, as he has stated before, unsustainable. So the Vikings trade a 1st and two 3rds to acquire a PB DE who has put up 43 sacks in his first 4 years (and 40 in his three years in Mn), and that is foolish. The Packers trade a 2nd and two 3rds to DRAFT a pass-rushing LB who didn’t start for his college team until midway through his college season. Because established players in their prime are a riskier acquisitions that college prospects…..

    Moving on….. “defenses can be arranged with quick plug-ins” The Vikings defense has been virtually unchanged since 2007, and why would it, since it has been top-10 three years running…. But I suppose it would be better to go after training camp cuts (Tramon Williams), other teams failed high draft picks (Ryan Pickett), and undrafted FAs and have them start instead. Sorry, what was I talking about? Oh yeah, plug-in defenders……

    So where are we now…. Oh yes, reason and common sense and a formula for disaster. Common sense says that counting on low-round draft picks and undrafted FAs to fill key depth positions is definitely the way to go, since they always work out…. Not a formula for disaster there…..

    But the Packers won the SB. It had nothing to do with luck or a good run, it was all part of a carefully crafted plan revolving around Sam Shields, Pat Lee, James Starks, Frank Zombo, Erik Walden, Charlie Peprah, CJ Wilson, and Howard Green. You know, since their talent was so readily apparent and they represented no risk whatsoever, they were clearly starter-caliber.

  31. brewdogg says: Apr 9, 2011 3:03 AM

    Oh yeah, BTW, enough with the “pass-first” BS…. That’s just Packer justification for saying the Vikings will have a poor team. But don’t believe me, just check reality…

    #4 Hou 6-10
    #6 Dal 6-10
    #7 Den 4-12
    #8 Was 6-10

    That’s half of the top 8 in passing with records of 6-10 or worse. Clearly pass-happy isn’t enough.

    #30 KC 10-6
    #28 Chi 11-5
    #22 NYJ 11-5
    #20 Bal 12-4

    And clearly pass-happy is not necessary.

    But once again, let’s not let facts cloud the green-and-gold colored world you live in.

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