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Derrick Mason calls Roger Goodell “a joke”

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NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said this week that the NFL will insist that players accept blood testing for human growth hormone. Ravens receiver Derrick Mason thinks Goodell should be focusing on more important things right now.

“He needs to stop crying about blood testing and HGH — he needs to get a deal done,” Mason told Steve Davis and Ed Norris on 105.7 The Fan in Baltimore. “He to me, is just a joke.”

Mason said that he agrees with Goodell that there’s no place for performance-enhancing substances in the NFL. But he disagrees with requiring players to have blood drawn to test for HGH.

“You want to do whatever you have to do to make sure there’s not a competitive edge in this sport,” Mason said. “Blood tests? I don’t know. They’ve been crying about blood tests for the longest time. I think that’s too intrusive. There’s other ways and other methods, I think, to go about testing for it.”

On that point, Mason is wrong: There are no other methods to test for HGH, other than drawing blood. If the players want to argue that blood tests are too intrusive, they can certainly make that case, but they can’t make the case that there are other methods to test for HGH.

Mason has a point, however, that it’s suspicious for Goodell to be talking about expanding testing for performance-enhancing drugs right now. At a time when Goodell says he just wants to get a deal done, he has taken a public stance that he knows the players oppose. And Mason is expressing that opposition bluntly.

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  1. duster1982 says: Apr 6, 2011 9:25 AM

    Looks like Mason will be the first one tested…

  2. ducksmith says: Apr 6, 2011 9:27 AM

    No idea what Goodell is up to but the players keep showing themselves to be emotional and immature . Try to make an intelligent, mature comment.

  3. berniemadoffsides says: Apr 6, 2011 9:28 AM

    I suddenly like Derrick Mason so much more right now…

  4. chapnastier says: Apr 6, 2011 9:30 AM

    “Mason has a point, however, that it’s suspicious for Goodell to be talking about expanding testing for performance-enhancing drugs right now. At a time when Goodell says he just wants to get a deal done, he has taken a public stance that he knows the players oppose. ”

    Not really, considering that Goodell probably wants this part of a negotiated CBA. In fact I think it is great for Goodell to be talking about stuff that they actually want in the new deal keeping us fans informed. This is just another player not knowing when he should keep his mouth shut. I think most fans agree that Goodell is a joke but since he isn’t our boss we have the ability to talk about it. Mason on the other hand, should be wiser.

  5. snowpea84 says: Apr 6, 2011 9:34 AM

    “I’m all for making sure there are no performance enhancing drugs used, just so long as they don’t do anything to make sure there are none being used.”

  6. jarobinewsome says: Apr 6, 2011 9:34 AM

    No Derrick…your play in the playoffs was a joke.

  7. bigfranky75 says: Apr 6, 2011 9:34 AM

    haha… Mason is the joke… obviously he uses performance enhancing drugs… wh yelse woudl he be so against blood tests?

    and the reason Goodell is bringing this topic up right now is obvious… he is letting this be another in a long line of topics that allow the players to further alienate themselves fro mthe fans and look bad.

    if the players dont allow this type of testing, THEY are the ones that look bad (again)…

  8. phinheads says: Apr 6, 2011 9:34 AM

    guilty as charged

  9. wdhart3 says: Apr 6, 2011 9:35 AM

    Sounds like Mr. Mason has something to hide…

  10. flyerscup2010 says: Apr 6, 2011 9:37 AM

    He’s wrong about his stance on HGH testing. Deal with the blood tests, if there’s any REAL reason you shouldn’t be having blood taken (not because it will “affect your performance”, it’s not that much blood and you’re professional athletes), I’m sure they’ll work with you on that. Deal with it.

    He’s right about Goodell. There’s a lockout and the owners refused to negotiate last week even though Goodell keeps saying he wants to “get back to the table”, so rather than try to find common ground to build up, he’s picking a divisive issue to harp on. The man is a walking contradiction and it’s really really annoying.

  11. MichaelEdits says: Apr 6, 2011 9:38 AM

    If Roger Goodell says at the hearing that “Derrick Mason is a joke,” nobody will be able to Tweet it. Do it, Roger, do it!

  12. Jay says: Apr 6, 2011 9:39 AM

    It’s awesome how players speak with such authority on topics and prove just how ignorant they are of the topic.

  13. ravensgrl says: Apr 6, 2011 9:39 AM

    During this interview, Mason also said he was pee- tested at least 10 times last season. If they change the method of testing, that is pretty excessive.

  14. rockymtnphinfan says: Apr 6, 2011 9:40 AM

    Mason is like 60 years old. You know WHICH players take HGH? Old players that need to recover faster.
    This would be the equivalent of someone that owns a Ferrari saying: “speeding tickets are ridiculous”

  15. supashug says: Apr 6, 2011 9:42 AM

    the form of HGH that is being used won’t be detected by blood test

    Derek only said what we all believe is the truth

  16. abninf says: Apr 6, 2011 9:42 AM

    I guess Mason thinks team physicals are too intrusive, since blood is drawn. he’s the joke.

  17. mike83ri says: Apr 6, 2011 9:42 AM

    God I hate Goodell.

  18. terminalsd says: Apr 6, 2011 9:42 AM

    Mason sounds a little suspect himself, that being said Goodell is becoming a CLOWN!

    Why now when you’re trying to get a deal done? He need to go to OZ and get a brain! Some people should not be allowed power and he’s one of them.

    Hey Roger? Get out the mirror and quit feeling yourself weirdo!

  19. whathappenedtovox says: Apr 6, 2011 9:45 AM

    No idea what Goodell is up to but the players keep showing themselves to be emotional and immature . Try to make an intelligent, mature comment.
    ___________________________

    For one, I don’t think Mason’s comments are immature in the slightest. Unintelligent? Meh. I’d go with “not fully informed.”

    But here’s the thing with the players saying more dumb things than the owners:

    53 players per team * 32 teams = 1696 NFL players.

    Meanwhile, there are precisely 32 NFL owners.

    Obviously, with the ratio of 53 players per every owner, there’s an enormously higher likelihood that if a dumb comment is spoken, it’s going to be a player. With that said, it’s not like the owners haven’t said their share of stupid things throughout the process as well.

  20. j0esixpack says: Apr 6, 2011 9:45 AM

    My understanding is that you can’t test for HGH without having a baseline for that person that shows what their natural HGH level is.

    Even then you’d have to be able to prove that elevated levels are caused by taking artificial HGH

    All of this makes HGH testing a red herring for both sides – yet one used as a demand/concession in overall negotiations

    What we have then is Goodell announcing that he’s going to demand one of the easier concessions for the NFLPA* to make – and presumably would give them something in return that’s probably more valuable to the players.

    If the NFLPA were smart they’d look at this as a positive development, not a negative, with even ineffective HGH testing scoring a PR win for both sides.

  21. jjay9 says: Apr 6, 2011 9:46 AM

    Roger Goddell thinks Derrick Mason is 1 yard short of being significant.

  22. thingamajig says: Apr 6, 2011 9:48 AM

    Blood test=intrusive
    Pee test=no problem
    Mason is either on HGH or he’s an idiot.

  23. allascowboys says: Apr 6, 2011 9:48 AM

    Well said Derrick…well said

  24. vickadelphiaphreedom says: Apr 6, 2011 9:49 AM

    Do Derrick….sounds like you need to worry less about talking to the press and more about flushing your system of whatever dose you’re taking to keep that aging body going.

  25. cylondetector says: Apr 6, 2011 9:50 AM

    The fact that Mason is willing to go on record as saying that there are ‘other means to test for HGH’ when its patently untrue make him look like something of a clown.

    Its a shame, because Mason has always been one of my favorite players – a true warrior on the field and a team-first guy.

    Someone needs to acquaint these guys with a ‘How-to’ guide on using google – all the data is right there.

  26. crubenst says: Apr 6, 2011 9:50 AM

    Pretty black and white. If I’m a player not using HGH I demand testing so I don’t get my head knocked off by an HGH using monster on defense. If I’m using, I don’t want testing. Period.

  27. geoffpeckham says: Apr 6, 2011 9:52 AM

    To be fair to Goodell, this story needs context. Goodell was in Baltimore visiting a local high school to talk about the dangers of drug abuse and what not, and it was covered by the local Baltimore media. To my understanding, the visit was already scheduled before the lockout began. Naturally he was nabbed for a few questions afterward, one of which concerned HGH testing in the NFL. I don’t think it’s fair to say Goodell’s focus is away from the primary task at hand (the CBA) when Goodell’s primary theme for months has been “mediation, not litigation.”

  28. pftard says: Apr 6, 2011 9:54 AM

    It is intrusive and the reason why the players don’t want this, is the fact that the blood test will show a lot more than a clean HGH test. It’ll show who’s got syphillis and god knows what else.., that’s the real reason why they don’t want this test. No chance those kinds of results don’t leak and get publicized.

  29. diabloryno says: Apr 6, 2011 9:54 AM

    Regardless of who you believe to be right or wrong in this whole debacle, at least the Owner seem to be able to act like mature and professional about it. Unlike the players who seem to find the joy in bashing Goddell repeatedly.

  30. commoncents says: Apr 6, 2011 10:00 AM

    if i am an owner, paying my people as well as the NFL players get paid, I really don’t care about intrusive. Got something to hide Derik??

  31. smacklayer says: Apr 6, 2011 10:01 AM

    If you think Roger Goodell is a joke, try rethinking that. He is the reason for your existence you ungrateful piece of trash. Without Goodell and league you would be flipping burgers or selling crack. Show a little respect for this organization that provides this wonderful sport for us all to enjoy and for you to play and benefit from.

    Long after you are gone in a few more short years, Goodell and the league will be there continuing to create the great game of football. What will you be doing for the league?

  32. CW says: Apr 6, 2011 10:01 AM

    Kevin Dyson thinks you should learn to read the back of jerseys before trying to attempt Deadspin level comment humor.

  33. broncfanor says: Apr 6, 2011 10:01 AM

    Goodell wants the testing INCLUDED in the new CBA therefore it is completely relevant.

  34. manderson367 says: Apr 6, 2011 10:02 AM

    Interesting that the fact Goddell made that statement while talking High School kids, trying to encourage them to NOT use HGH. Puts things in a little different context. Some of the posters on here are as immature as Mason.

  35. onearmdragon says: Apr 6, 2011 10:03 AM

    If the Olympics and the Olympic Athletes can test for HGH then so can the NFL.

    Blood drawn? What crap, your an athlete and will replace that blood in a few days. Making testing on Tuesday am.

    Drug testing has to be part of the CBA, just like almost every other part of employer/employee relations.

    It would be so nice for the players to simply shut up for a month. Take a lesson from the owners and don’t do interviews, don’t say crap and let your lawyers do their work. It’s a court case now, by design, and clients shouldn’t say anything their lawyers don’t vet first.

  36. miz23 says: Apr 6, 2011 10:04 AM

    “jjay9 says:
    Apr 6, 2011 9:46 AM
    Roger Goddell thinks Derrick Mason is 1 yard short of being significant.”

    jjay9 that was kevin dyson not dmase

  37. stinkfingers says: Apr 6, 2011 10:07 AM

    Roger Goodell sucks as a commisioner, no doubt….

    But the REAL joke is that NFL players cant go 2 days without getting arrested.

  38. aevans05 says: Apr 6, 2011 10:08 AM

    Oh boo hoo, it shows you have other stuff besides HGH.. so what. You’re getting paid millions and if they want to make damn sure you’re clean.. then deal with it.

    These players are the idiots. I am at the point where I care less about this coming season.. it is already affected. Take a year off, screw these players.

  39. riverhorsey says: Apr 6, 2011 10:11 AM

    if the only way to test for drugs was a blood test they would be taking a blood test.

    HGH is a drug, take the blood test and stop crying and stop holding up the contract talks.

    it’s a blood test, takes 5 minutes !!

  40. strctlylo says: Apr 6, 2011 10:16 AM

    players should be seen (on the football field) and not heard. the more they talk, the more foolish they appear to be.

  41. hedden93 says: Apr 6, 2011 10:23 AM

    Funny how the players think drawing blood is intrusive but think its ridiculous that the owners don’t open their books . . .

  42. nabz034 says: Apr 6, 2011 10:24 AM

    No Derrick…your play in the playoffs was a joke.

  43. bobwsc says: Apr 6, 2011 10:25 AM

    these guys go under the knife all the time – and a blood test is too much?

  44. kcfanatic says: Apr 6, 2011 10:26 AM

    Uh, hello! Goodell is telling you want he wants in the deal. Mason is the real joke. If you have nothing to hide and you don’t want drugs in your sports, then you shouldn’t have a problem with the test. Mr. Mason please remember that if this is put in the CBA, you would not HAVE to take the blood test. You could always refuse to take the test, and go play in another football league that pays you millions of dollars. Oh there isn’t one? Well…you could go to work in the profession that your degree gives you the opportunity to make millions in. What’s that? Oh well…sounds like you better just take the test then, or retire.

  45. mick730 says: Apr 6, 2011 10:30 AM

    “It is intrusive and the reason why the players don’t want this, is the fact that the blood test will show a lot more than a clean HGH test. It’ll show who’s got syphillis and god knows what else.., ”

    Wrong. You must be hanging with Mason. A blood draw to test for HGH will not show whether or not someone has syphillis, or any other STD, including HIV. When you go for your annual physical, the doctor’s office usualy draws blood for a CBC, which is a complete blood count. This tests for numerous problems, indicators, potential problems, but does not test for STD’s.

    A blood draw specifically for HGH will be just that. Nothing more.

  46. 3octaveFart says: Apr 6, 2011 10:35 AM

    If the players don’t want testing – they’re hiding something.

    If the owners won’t open the books – they’re hiding something.

    Not much difference.

  47. aevans05 says: Apr 6, 2011 10:45 AM

    Doesn’t really surprise me. These athletes have been treated like they’re better than everyone else in the world all their lives simply because they have football talent.

    They now have a disgusting sense of entitlement that is showing up on every player. I won’t even make the “love of the game debate” because most of these guys have already made more than the average joe will in a lifetime. Sure there are some players who make league minimum… that’s still an extremely healthy paycheck. Those players shouldn’t try to live a Tom Brady lifestyle and all would be well.

  48. thefiesty1 says: Apr 6, 2011 10:57 AM

    Mason should just shut up and abide by the rules. His play is sometimes intrusive so roll up your sleeve and give a sample. Playing is a privilege, uh slavery. Good thing you don’t play in Houston or Dallas where if your stopped for suspicion of DUI you have no choice if you refuse a breathalyzer.. Blood is drawn whether you like it or not.

  49. chapnastier says: Apr 6, 2011 11:00 AM

    @ 30octave

    They are hiding business information that may or may not give a competitive advantage to other competing businesses. This is simple, hopefully one day you will get it.

  50. CKL says: Apr 6, 2011 11:06 AM

    hedden93 says: Apr 6, 2011 10:23 AM

    Funny how the players think drawing blood is intrusive but think its ridiculous that the owners don’t open their books .
    __________________
    ZING! (And yes I know the situations aren’t EXACTLY the same but both sides are protecting themselves and to accuse one side without acknowledging the other is doing the same is hypocrisy.)

    A Raven? Whining? Clutch the pearls! Surprised he didn’t get something about the refs in there. I don’t think I heard a word out of this dude until he went to Balt.

    Every day that goes by, I thank goodness his wife chose Balt over NE.

    Though I disagree with the notion that the fact he doesn’t know what is out there test wise means he is on it. It more likely means the OPPOSITE…he ISN’T on it. A person wanting to avoid detection who is semi-intelligent will suss out all the factors that may get him caught if getting caught via something pretty inarguable like a bona fide proven method of detection means a suspension.

  51. brutus9448 says: Apr 6, 2011 11:09 AM

    I think players talking about things like blood tests are a joke. Players should just stay quite. Everytime they open their mouth the owners smile

  52. Deb says: Apr 6, 2011 11:13 AM

    You go, Derrick!

    Goodell is a joke who spent all last season trying to be the big tough guy with players. Yes, De Smith has been too aggressive. But if this pathetic excuse for a commissioner hadn’t created such bad blood, players and owners still might have worked things out. The sooner he’s gone, the better for fans no matter whose side they’re on.

  53. olcap says: Apr 6, 2011 11:27 AM

    Roggy Goodell is much more than a joke – he’s a whole joke BOOK.

  54. radrntn says: Apr 6, 2011 11:31 AM

    lets get real…..do you think guys can be 300lbs and run a 4.5 40 naturally……..there would be no different between these players being locked out or being suspended for juicing….they all juice, so the entire league would be suspended…the punter sauerbrun let everybody know that when he got popped. I mean if punters are jucing, then tell me whose not?

  55. dcbronco says: Apr 6, 2011 11:43 AM

    I’m always amazed at the number of people on these sites willing to support the owners. Mostly a bunch of billionaires who feel they don’t have enough and want more. And they plan to get it from you. If the players received 20,000 each, the ticket prices would remain the same. You’d still pay $4 for a hot dog. Parking would still be $15-20. And beer would still cost $6. It’s not about players salaries. It’s about greed. And the players haven’t cornered the market on that.

    Look at Minnesota where the owner and the politicians have gone out of their way to avoid having the people vote down a new publicly funded stadium. Because while you should pay for your home. You should also be paying for major corporations homes too. Owners should use their credit to acquire property just like everyone else.

    They just release a report last week that said CEO are making 27% more than they were before the recession. Millions of Americans out of work and they want more. And they rape your retirement account to get it. And these are the type of people many of these owners are. You work more for less so that they can have more. The only difference in this case is that in the entertainment field the talent has the power to fight back. Some are jealous of that. Other still live with the delusion that they will one day be a rich owner too. The reality is that you will most likely always need a ticket to get into the stadium.

  56. chapnastier says: Apr 6, 2011 11:53 AM

    @ Deb

    Goodell didn’t force the players to de-certify and walk away from the negotiating table after the owners presented a fair or at least a starting point. He didn’t keep the players from providing a counter offer. Nope, the players did that. They walked away, without a counter offer and stopped negotiations.

    Players need to be blood tested to ensure the integrity of the game. They don’t want to be blood tested because they are hiding stuff. It has nothing to do with the current negotiations other than that the owners want that included.

  57. cappa662 says: Apr 6, 2011 11:55 AM

    Derrick Mason just earned more respect from me.

    *** blast Rage Against the Machine’s Bulls on Parade***

  58. easyeddie says: Apr 6, 2011 11:58 AM

    Personal insults show so much more about the one who utters the insult than the target of the insult. A simple life lesson so many just don’t get.

  59. CKL says: Apr 6, 2011 12:06 PM

    DCbronco:
    To me it’s a matter of right and wrong not strictly the money.

    Pro player people think that if you have talent/ability you should have more rights.

    “Pro owner “people think that if you invest your money and are the entity that risks the capital and has the acumen to run a company you have more rights.

    I think both sides have issues they are right and wrong about.

    Both my spouse and I were completely screwed by our old company and those who ran it were greedy as hell. Were they right to do what they did? Nope. But they had the right to do what they did. There’s a difference between doing right and being right. It’s too bad those two things aren’t more closely related.

  60. dcbronco says: Apr 6, 2011 12:28 PM

    Sorry about your situation CKL, but I believe that you should know what you’re investing in. Investing in an NFL team isn’t like a normal investment. I would bet the owners couldn’t find a guy that has actually lost anything. Even the Dolphins, who “lost” 7.7 million last season, would have made a profit if the owners hadn’t illegally had money held back from the TV deals. No one considers paying their mortgage losing money. It’s a long term investment. And most homes will never see the level of appreciation NFL see. There is no real risk for NFL owners.

    The players health issues are another story. You can’t sell 10 concussions at the end for a profit. The more we know, the more it becomes clear that the players are the ones taking the real risk.

  61. 3octaveFart says: Apr 6, 2011 12:28 PM

    chapnastier says: Apr 6, 2011 11:00 AM

    “They are hiding business information that may or may not give a competitive advantage to other competing businesses. This is simple, hopefully one day you will get it.”

    What other businesses?
    Name one. C’mon, just one.

    What I get, is your constant attempts to speak with some authority, as though you’re involved in this.
    Clue: you’re not…

  62. 3octaveFart says: Apr 6, 2011 12:31 PM

    chapnastier says: Apr 6, 2011 11:53 AM

    “They don’t want to be blood tested because they are hiding stuff.”

    And the owners won’t open their books for reasons that are pure and wholesome. [ /snicker ]

    OK we get it.
    Owners, good.
    Players, bad.

    That about sums up the one-trick-pony act…

  63. deucedeuce13 says: Apr 6, 2011 12:32 PM

    A huge problem on this board is comments are post oldest to newest instead of vice versa. So for every that’s posting without reading the other comments, let me reiterate what’s already been established.

    – the blood test is being argued for hgh
    – they arnt using a hgh blood test, but a general blood test (which is the reason there’s no way to our former DROY actually took hgh since there’s multiple reasons to have an elevated level in the blood. Unlike pot, where it won’t be there if u don’t take it, we all already have hgh in our system.
    – the form of hgh thats most likely being used, can’t be detected by the blood test administered
    -Derrick mason had surgery last year, and passed his blood test. He’s also an advocate against steroids. His issue is this is a ploy by Goodell to make the players look bad. It’s not a part of the CBA that needed to be hashed out, Goodell needs to focus on that.
    -dcbronco put it best

    No chance would anyone at any job agree to impromptu blood tests. Its not pissing In a cup. U may be able to give blood and carry on ur day. But ur probably not running on low body fat and running miles just to prepare for your job. I can’t come to this site anymore because it’s been flooded by uninformed idiots that try to push there flawed and void opinions. Which isn’t really their fault since they probably consider sites like this to be factual and don’t really do any type of research themselves

  64. jayman80 says: Apr 6, 2011 12:40 PM

    Mason has a point, blood test is not accurate enough that’s why it’s not a part of football and until they can find a more accurate test method then why have one. Also would you want someone sticking you every week sometimes twice bc to my knowledge the test are done randomly and if your name shows up u have to take the test. Would you want your employer sticking you every week regardless how much you make or don’t make? If you have something to say bad about d mase next time you see him why don’t you tell him instead of asking for a autograph!! Let’s see how that goes

  65. dcbronco says: Apr 6, 2011 12:40 PM

    Also CKL, the average NFL owner made over 10 million in profit. I assume saying they aren’t making enough is a Terrell Owens style I have to feed my family thing. But if you’re making that kind of money and are having a hard time getting by. Maybe you are like one of those homeowners that got one of those sub-prime or “NINJA” loans. If the debt is too much. You can’t afford to be an NFL owner.

    The reality is they buy the teams knowing they will make that debt back through tax shelters, publicly funded sweetheart stadium deals and sweetheart tax deals. The vast majority of Americans would be doing well if everything they pay for was up for negotiations too.

  66. chapnastier says: Apr 6, 2011 12:41 PM

    3octaveFart says: Apr 6, 2011 12:28 PM

    chapnastier says: Apr 6, 2011 11:00 AM

    “They are hiding business information that may or may not give a competitive advantage to other competing businesses. This is simple, hopefully one day you will get it.”

    What other businesses?
    Name one. C’mon, just one

    ———————————————-

    As Jerry Jones has stated they do not want to share information with other organizations. What I don’t get is your constant attempts to debate me with logic as opposed to insults.

  67. endzonezombie says: Apr 6, 2011 12:46 PM

    It’s apparent to Forbes that owning an NFL franchise is practically a license to print money. Just as the accounting for movie production usually shows a loss for even the biggest blockbuster films, the creative accounting for NFL teams allows then to hide ‘income’ as ‘expense’. The owners’ own salaries and benefits are a team expense – as it is for family, relatives, and close friends. For tax purposes, players cannot categorize their salaries as an expense. It should also be noted that before decertifying, the NFLPA offered ( as a compromise) to invest 1 billion cash into the league in return for equity in the 32 teams. Bob Batterman told the NFLPA flatly that the league did not want the NFLPA as business partners. The League wants that payments without any strings attached. Thus the impasse.

  68. Deb says: Apr 6, 2011 1:26 PM

    @chapnastier …

    My comments about Goodell had nothing to do with decertifying blah blah blah.

    Last season, Goodell making a big to-do about hitting to convince Congress there was no need for oversight. He issued a lot of fines and made a lot of noise … but he didn’t do anything substantive that actually reduced the number or severity of head traumas. It was all smoke and mirrors. So is this HGH thing.

    There’s no reliable HGH test or proof of its effect on adult players. What are the health risks of HGH? Steroids are dangerous yet the NFL allowed them for two decades. Do you know why the NFL banned steroids? Because of pressure from PLAYERS, specifically Lyle Alzado who was dying from their side-effects. Not until Alzado went public did the NFL take the issue seriously. Steroids made players bigger, stronger, faster. Better football, more money. The league didn’t care until Alzado created bad PR.

    Goodell and the owners don’t care anymore about HGH than they did about steroids. They care about playing hardball and making fans think players are cheating and hurting the “integrity” of the game … as if Goodell has any integrity. All the guy does is create bad blood with the players … and most of the fans were sick of him, too, until they decided their players were the bad guys.

  69. CKL says: Apr 6, 2011 1:28 PM

    dcbronco says: Apr 6, 2011 12:28 PM

    Sorry about your situation CKL, but I believe that you should know what you’re investing in. Investing in an NFL team isn’t like a normal investment. I would bet the owners couldn’t find a guy that has actually lost anything. Even the Dolphins, who “lost” 7.7 million last season, would have made a profit if the owners hadn’t illegally had money held back from the TV deals. No one considers paying their mortgage losing money. It’s a long term investment. And most homes will never see the level of appreciation NFL see. There is no real risk for NFL owners.

    The players health issues are another story. You can’t sell 10 concussions at the end for a profit. The more we know, the more it becomes clear that the players are the ones taking the real risk.
    ____________________________________
    Well let’s put it this way…what the local tax entity feels my home is valued at for tax purposes isn’t even close to what I could put it on the market for right now. In fact I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s worth less now than what we paid for it. But the tax valuation keeps going up. So in a way that puts me in the same situation as owners.

    But you are correct that the issue isn’t losing MONEY for the owners..it is decreasing profit margin. I am not sure what you do with your investments but when I see the margin going down I want to boost it back up. I don’t think I have made it that clear but I don’t care if it’s one dollar or 100, I am in no position to make it my business how much is “too much ” for someone to profit from their investment (provided it’s legal). Same goes for player salaries. I have zero problem with any player taking whatever contract a team wants to give them. To me it’s the same. People don’t “earn” it any less whether their work is mental or physical whether their acumen is business or sports talent. Each thing is valuable and is worth whatever someone will pay for it.
    And yes the players do take physical risk . Almost all their health issues seem to be a result of their playing days whether they are big or small issues. It’s a huge reason that I believe that once a player has played 5 years (or some such length of service/play time) they should have heavily NFL/NFLPA subsidized insurance as in the same plan they have now, until they are medicare eligible.
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    dcbronco says: Apr 6, 2011 12:40 PM

    Also CKL, the average NFL owner made over 10 million in profit. I assume saying they aren’t making enough is a Terrell Owens style I have to feed my family thing. But if you’re making that kind of money and are having a hard time getting by. Maybe you are like one of those homeowners that got one of those sub-prime or “NINJA” loans. If the debt is too much. You can’t afford to be an NFL owner.

    The reality is they buy the teams knowing they will make that debt back through tax shelters, publicly funded sweetheart stadium deals and sweetheart tax deals. The vast majority of Americans would be doing well if everything they pay for was up for negotiations too.
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    I am 100% opposed to public funding for stadium structures..and one of the many reasons is that the stadium owner already does get tax incentives to have a stadium in a certain place…as do many non NFL building/business owners in cities benefit from giant tax incentives. I’m not thrilled with any tax money going to fund building private buildings but at least let the people who will have to pay the tax vote on it for crying out loud.
    But think of how angry you would be if you were Mr. Kraft who paid for his own stadium and has no PSLs watching a guy like Mike Brown or Ralph Wilson suck up a bunch of their profits while paying for nothing stadium related. I am starting to think the owners have more to bitch at with each other quite frankly.

  70. raven4life21 says: Apr 6, 2011 8:11 PM

    Ravens fan here, i love Derrick Mason’s skillz, but the man is too big-headed if you ask me… why don’t you try running out of the tunnel at home games with the rest of your team Mr. Mason… you seem to run out by yourself away from everyone else when they aren’t introducing you and the Offense… i think it’s petty and ridiculous and if you don’t cut this crap out and cheating on your wife, karma is gonna come bite you in the a**… oops, did i just say that? lol, but how would i know? cuz im friends with one of the little white girls you were hookin up with and have seen the pics… do yourself a favor Derrick? become a R-A-V-E-N not a lone wolf

  71. raiderapologist says: Apr 6, 2011 9:41 PM

    The players could allow testing on any blood they shed during games, so long as Roger is there to take the sample personally.

  72. goldsteel says: Apr 10, 2011 10:04 PM

    What Goodell is up to? I have no idea but if it looks good to the public then he’s all for it. Goodell is all about image. I thought he was a joke long before HGH became an issue.

    Fire Goodell.

  73. footballcoach17 says: Apr 11, 2011 10:24 PM

    Mason, maybe you should focus on trying to win a Super Bowl. Mason is the joke! Retire!

  74. stetai says: Apr 12, 2011 1:00 PM

    The players will never accept HGH testing after all its the only PED they can take without getting caught! Fans would not accept an NFL where everyone looks like the 70’s either very skinny or very fat. Don’t rock the boat Goodell!

  75. axespray says: Apr 12, 2011 5:53 PM

    “On that point, Mason is wrong: There are no other methods to test for HGH, other than drawing blood.”

    So HGH Testing is kinda like that scene from that Kurt Russell Movie, THE THING!

    In an NFL Lockerroom, QB Tom Brady holding a torch and some medical equipment: “We’re Gonna Find out who’s who!”

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