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More talk of Carson Palmer to the Dolphins

Cincinnati Bengals' Palmer celebrates his touchdown throw with teammate Livings against the San Diego Chargers during the second half of play in their NFL football game in Cincinnati

Dan Marino isn’t the only one who thinks the Dolphins trading for Carson Palmer could make sense.

Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald reports that when he talks to people in the Dolphins organization about the possibility of trading for Palmer, they sound open to the idea.

Granted, being open to a trade is a long way from actually pulling the trigger on it. And if anyone with the Dolphins actually told Salguero on the record that they were interested in Palmer, they’d be violating the league’s tampering rules. But, Salguero writes, people in the Dolphins organization say things like, “Carson’s pretty good,” or, “I like Carson,” or, “It’s one of our what-ifs.”

Salguero also writes that the Bengals may be coming around on the idea of trading Palmer. Although Bengals owner Mike Brown has indicated that he has no intention of trading his franchise quarterback, that might change when the lockout ends, if Palmer continues to insist that he’ll retire rather than play for the Bengals again.

Until the lockout ends, any talk of Palmer’s future is pure speculation. But we’ll start to get a better idea of where things are heading after the draft: If the Bengals take a quarterback in the first or second round, they’re clearly preparing for life without Palmer, and they may turn their attention to figuring out which teams would be interested in Palmer’s services. The Dolphins could make sense as a trading partner.

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  1. acerockefellar says: Apr 6, 2011 12:45 PM

    Apparently you guys dont understand how stubborn mike brown is.

    Second of all Dan Marino said he would “maybe give a 3rd rounder” mike brown would probably have a heart attack from laughing so hard at that offer.

  2. Kaz says: Apr 6, 2011 12:47 PM

    Palmer isn’t going anywhere. Unless and it’ll still be a maybe they offer a Cutler type trade deal. Carson is still a top qb who faces Pitt and Baltimore 4 times a year and still has two AFCN titles and a sweep of the D under his belt. His intangibles, football smarts, and ability to be a field general is underrated by those thinking he isn’t worth a first round pick (but willing to sell the farm for an unproven Kolb). This coming from somone who is just about sick of him and the situation and for all purposes has moved on.

  3. j0esixpack says: Apr 6, 2011 12:49 PM

    That’d be about 2 dozen starting QBs in the last decade for the Fins

    30th times a charm?

  4. thereisalwaysnextyear says: Apr 6, 2011 12:52 PM

    This is a bit tongue in cheek, but when is the last time a post was written by PFT that didn’t have a link to some reporter that was talking about a story? It must be fun just to sit around reading other people’s stuff then repeating it with an opinion about what they say. Instead of you know, finding scoops originally.

  5. usher716 says: Apr 6, 2011 12:53 PM

    As a Bills fan, I love the move, I’m sure the rest of the AFC East would too. Make it happen Dolphins.

  6. airraid77 says: Apr 6, 2011 12:53 PM

    He is going to screw them royaly, if they draft a qb in the first round and he shows up….Then they will be forced to release him and get nothing….

  7. myspaceyourface says: Apr 6, 2011 12:57 PM

    Noodle arm to the dolphins.

    The only thing elite about Carson Palmer is his contract.

  8. higgs75 says: Apr 6, 2011 12:58 PM

    If I were Miami, I’d call Marvin Lewis the second the lockout ends and say you have 1-hour to convince Mike Brown or this offer is off the table; Miami’s 1st rounder (15th overall) for Carson Palmer and Cincinnatti’s 2nd Rounder (35th overall). Moving up 20 spots into the first round for an expensive, over-30 QB that won’t ever play for them again, is pretty good value.

  9. brutus9448 says: Apr 6, 2011 1:01 PM

    palmer is not worth a 3rd. Dolphins can have many QBs that can win 4 games for them like palmer did last year for cinci. Heck henne won 7 games

  10. habsman says: Apr 6, 2011 1:02 PM

    Drew Brees is having a good chuckle.

  11. kellyb9 says: Apr 6, 2011 1:03 PM

    He’s an upgrade for the Dolphins… which is just sad… for the Dolphins.

  12. jackbassett says: Apr 6, 2011 1:05 PM

    acerockefellar says: Apr 6, 2011 12:45 PM

    Second of all Dan Marino said he would “maybe give a 3rd rounder” mike brown would probably have a heart attack from laughing so hard at that offer.

    _____________________________

    Why laugh? He “gave” a first rounder for Akili Smith and David Klingler (and Peter Warrick and Ki-Jana Carter). :)

  13. Kaz says: Apr 6, 2011 1:08 PM

    higgs75 says:
    Apr 6, 2011 12:58 PM
    If I were Miami, I’d call Marvin Lewis the second the lockout ends and say you have 1-hour to convince Mike Brown or this offer is off the table; Miami’s 1st rounder (15th overall) for Carson Palmer and Cincinnatti’s 2nd Rounder (35th overall). Moving up 20 spots into the first round for an expensive, over-30 QB that won’t ever play for them again, is pretty good value.
    ____

    I’de be for it.

  14. cdwains says: Apr 6, 2011 1:16 PM

    I doubt that Brown is warming to trading Palmer, that said if he does not trade Palmer he is only hurting his team by squatting on Palmers rights. Mike Brown has already said that the Bengals highly value Palmer and that he doesn’t think they can value by trading him. I think there are 6 legitimate trading partners out there. I would think they would be able to get at best a mid first rounder for Palmer. 49ers, Cards, Seahawks, Raiders, Dolphins have all been reportedly interested. You would think the Bengals could swindle a sweet deal from one of them. Palmer is your stereotypical “need a change of scenery guy”. I think he can excel in a situation where they have a good o-line.

  15. jhorton83 says: Apr 6, 2011 1:16 PM

    Palmer is just as inaccurate and mistake-prone as Chad Henne, so what would be the point of this move? And like Henne, the interceptions that Palmer throws tend to be of the back-breaking pick 6 variety.

  16. irishdawg42 says: Apr 6, 2011 1:17 PM

    “”Miami’s 1st rounder (15th overall) for Carson Palmer and Cincinnatti’s 2nd Rounder (35th overall). Moving up 20 spots into the first round for an expensive, over-30 QB that won’t ever play for them again, is pretty good value.””

    Agree 100%, it is basically like getting a mid-high 2nd rounder for him.

    Take that offer or Miami’s 2nd rounder straight up.

    I would personally rather move up from the 2nd like you suggested. They will get a plug in starter@15..With their draft history(and no change in the people making picks) most likely gaining an extra 2nd round pick wouldn’t do them much good.

    @Kaz
    The fact that he only has 3-4 years left is why he won’t garner a 1st round pick, not because he isn’t a top tier QB. Getting a 2nd rounder would be good value.

    Guys like him and McNabb who are at the end of their career simply will not get the same as someone that has ten years left in the tank. Add to that Carson’s injury history and he will simply not garner a 1st rounder.

  17. drumzan says: Apr 6, 2011 1:17 PM

    Palmer isn’t the answer in Miami. I would much rather sign Marc Bulger as a backup to compete with Henne. He has a better history of winning games so he’d be an excellent mentor. Plus apparently he’s in really good shape now. Then draft a developmental prospect like Tyrod Taylor or invest a 1st/2nd round pick (if they trade down) on Mallett.

  18. childressrulz says: Apr 6, 2011 1:20 PM

    first rounder? For Palmer? You must be kidding. Maybe if he wasn’t thirty yet. And I like the guy.

  19. dfinpds says: Apr 6, 2011 1:31 PM

    Another spoiled rich player setting terms and throwing a hissy fit if he can’t get his way. Pathetic.

  20. zoxitic says: Apr 6, 2011 1:36 PM

    Carson Palmer is a “has been”. Forget trading for him, I wouldn’t even pick him up on waivers.

  21. phinfan says: Apr 6, 2011 1:37 PM

    Look at it from this angle. Does he improve the team over Chad Henne?

    The Answer is Maybe because its too close to call they are just too similar, I really don’t see an improvement IMO. In other words Henne is a younger version of Palmer. Draft someone to compete with Henne!

  22. TxGrown says: Apr 6, 2011 1:39 PM

    Do it…couldn’t hurt…wouldn’t help either.

  23. wryly1 says: Apr 6, 2011 1:42 PM

    hey kaz –

    Sounds like your shilling more for Mike Brown than Carson Palmer. Palmer doesn’t care what he gets traded for. Mike Brown may be the only one in the NFL who thinks he’s worth a RD1 pick at this point. He’s got a $50 million contract and his production has being declining for 3 years despite have a couple of all-pro receivers.Even considering the shortage of experienced starting QB’s, Palmer won’t draw a RD1 pick in trade.

  24. bukes111 says: Apr 6, 2011 1:45 PM

    Palmer might be a top tier qb again if he can get 7 seconds in the pocket.

  25. airraid77 says: Apr 6, 2011 1:49 PM

    pure hatred of the rich by some……

  26. jocheech1244 says: Apr 6, 2011 2:00 PM

    I’m not the biggest carson fan but you never know a change of scenary can help him. Say the dolphins get him and retains Ronnie Brown. A balanced attack with solid wr’s like Marshall and Bess to throw to…… Ya never know

  27. mrfrostyj says: Apr 6, 2011 2:20 PM

    Of course Mike Browns isn’t trading Palmer. That would probably help the team and when’s the last time he did something like that. Let’s instead hope Carson changes his mind and when he doesn’t and his little brother has to start, we hope the fans can’t tell. That’s the Mike Brown way!

  28. bengalsown says: Apr 6, 2011 2:21 PM

    Noodle arm? Palmer has one of the strongest arms in the NFL.

  29. cdwains says: Apr 6, 2011 2:24 PM

    JackBasset, you want to talk about first round bust, how about, Ted Ginn, Jamar Fletcher, John Avery, Yatil Green is that enough? Bottom line it’s not alwYs the players fault. Klingler, Akili, Warrick, and Carter were all consesus top 10 picks when they came out, Klingler played behind one of the worst Olines in NFL history, Warrick was solid but never had a QB, and Carter blew his knee out on the fourth carry of his career. An unnamed coach told the Cincinnati Enquirer last year that out of all of Palmers INT’s last year only 2 were completely Palmers fault. Ochocinco and TO both improvised more routes than they ran correctly last year, and the Bengals haven’t had a good o-line since 2005. Palmer needs to go to a team with a good oline to be at his best. QB’s are playing
    Longer than ever so 31 not that old. Any team will have a tough time time getting Palmer, and I don’t see any scenario where the Bengals trade him for less than a first rounder. Lots of teams need a QB, I’m sure someone will give Cincinnati what they want.

  30. phoenix727 says: Apr 6, 2011 2:34 PM

    @irishdawg42

    “”Miami’s 1st rounder (15th overall) for Carson Palmer and Cincinnatti’s 2nd Rounder (35th overall). Moving up 20 spots into the first round for an expensive, over-30 QB that won’t ever play for them again, is pretty good value.””

    Agree 100%, it is basically like getting a mid-high 2nd rounder for him.

    Take that offer or Miami’s 2nd rounder straight up.

    ******

    That would be great if Miami had a 2nd rounder. Unfortunately they don’t. Denver has it from the Marshal trade.

    I like the idea of getting Palmer for our first, but then getting their 2nd rounder in return.

    Moving down 20 spots and getting a potential star QB in return is a good gamble to take in my opinion. “Potential” is the key word though.

  31. theguywhotoldtimtebowtoshutthefup says: Apr 6, 2011 2:49 PM

    SMOKESCREENS!

  32. jackbassett says: Apr 6, 2011 3:08 PM

    cdwains says: Apr 6, 2011 2:24 PM

    JackBasset, you want to talk about first round bust, how about, Ted Ginn, Jamar Fletcher, John Avery, Yatil Green is that enough?
    ____

    Didn’t mean to offend you, Bengal fan. That said, the 4 names I mentioned were drafted #1, #3, #4 and #6. The ones you mentioned were drafted #9, #15, #26, and #29. Surely, the 4 Bengals were bigger busts, weren’t they? A few years ago CNNSI listed the top 20 draft busts in the last 20 years. Five Bengals, one Dolphin. Not a fan of either team but I’d take the Fins drafting prowess over the Bungals.

  33. bengalanthony13 says: Apr 6, 2011 3:15 PM

    higgs75 says:
    Apr 6, 2011 12:58 PM
    If I were Miami, I’d call Marvin Lewis the second the lockout ends and say you have 1-hour to convince Mike Brown or this offer is off the table; Miami’s 1st rounder (15th overall) for Carson Palmer and Cincinnatti’s 2nd Rounder (35th overall). Moving up 20 spots into the first round for an expensive, over-30 QB that won’t ever play for them again, is pretty good value.

    ————————————————–

    I’d counter that offer with one of these two:

    Carson for Miami’s 2nd and 3rd this year (if they have those picks, I’m too lazy to look it up).

    or

    Carson and Cincinnati’s 3rd rounder for Miami’s 1st round pick.

    Carson and a second round pick is just too valuable to give up at this point. The Bengals need to hang on to their second rounder because that’s where they’ll probably be picking a QB.

  34. cdwains says: Apr 6, 2011 3:28 PM

    A bust is a bust is a bust, You can look at first round picks for the entire NFL over the last 20 years and I would be willing to be that the majority of there first round picks are bust. The Bengals have been horrible draftees since Mike Brown has run the team, there is no arguing that! While Mike Brown is not a Great Football mind by any stretch is an extremely smart individual. The guy fought the IRS and won how many people can say that? That said no, Mike Brown wants Carson Palmer to be the father of his children, there is no way in he’ll he will trade Palmer for less than a first rounder, or a package of
    Picks, Brown may not even trade Palmer, just to make a point. I would put my money on Palmer retiring, because at the end of the day it’s always Mike’s way.

  35. tbbucs1638 says: Apr 6, 2011 3:28 PM

    Palmer isnt the reason they couldnt win it was their defense, jonathan joseph had a down year n their pass d altogether was bad

  36. deljzc says: Apr 6, 2011 3:34 PM

    Arizona should trade their #38 overall for Palmer. And Cincinnati should accept.

    The Cardinals are in most desperate need of a competent pocket passer. Someone that Whisenhunt can work with, has work ethic and a veteran team. And they have to make Fitzgerald happy this season.

    Plus, Palmer wants to go back west. Arizona is a 90 minute flight from LA, it’s good weather and no more Steelers and Ravens defense 4 times a year. Tell me that won’t rejuvenate his career like when Warner got away from New York. Remember, Warner was ages 34-38 in his pretty decent 5-year contribution to that franchise. To say Palmer is over the hill at age 30 is ridiculous.

    Palmer is ideal to work with Whisenhunt.

  37. cliverush says: Apr 6, 2011 3:35 PM

    Go West young (sorta) man and you will live longer.

  38. zoxitic says: Apr 6, 2011 3:35 PM

    1st rounder for Carson? Delusional.

  39. steeelfann says: Apr 6, 2011 3:39 PM

    I think Carson Palmer should get a brand new $100 million dollar contract including a $30MM signing bonus just for having to put up with Terrell Owens for 16 games.

  40. hitdog042 says: Apr 6, 2011 3:40 PM

    airraid77 says: Apr 6, 2011 12:53 PM

    He is going to screw them royaly, if they draft a qb in the first round and he shows up….Then they will be forced to release him and get nothing….

    ==============

    so what if he reports after the Bengals draft a QB? That’s a win for Cincinnati.. the new QB gets to sit for awhile. Big deal.

    Surely it doesn’t do anything CLOSE to forcing the Bengals to release him.

    If anything that scenario may actually HELP the Bengals in the long run.

  41. schmitty2 says: Apr 6, 2011 3:49 PM

    First of all this trade wont happen…2nd of all is Palmer really an upgrade over Henne??

  42. finsbooyah says: Apr 6, 2011 3:50 PM

    drumzan… I couldn’t have said it better myself.

    I’m just not high on Taylor. Best case scenario would be to trade down and grab Mallet while adding a second round pick. If Bulger can be added for a veteran presence, I’m all for it.

    Say No to Palmer!

  43. thefiesty1 says: Apr 6, 2011 4:02 PM

    Yes, but, Mike Brown is too stupid to make a deal. He’d rather Palmer retire than get value and send him anywhere.

  44. Dynasty says: Apr 6, 2011 4:48 PM

    Coming off 4 Consecutive Fantasy Football Finals and currently a BACK TO BACK Champion!! Big $$$$ i would say DEFINATELY draft Brandon Marshall if Palmer goes to the Fins!!! Marshall needs a stats season rebound and Palmer would feed him nicely.

  45. ozzie8 says: Apr 6, 2011 4:55 PM

    It doesn’t make any difference what Carson wants or Mike Brown wants or what any other team wants. His wife is behind this whole mess because she got her feelings hurt when he got booed in a game. She will be making the decision here, I’m convinced of that. Hopefully he’ll wind up in NY or Philly and she’ll really hear boos. The Bengals fans and press have been kind to him considering his performances.

  46. loungefly74 says: Apr 7, 2011 8:37 AM

    thereisalwaysnextyear says:
    Apr 6, 2011 12:52 PM
    This is a bit tongue in cheek, but when is the last time a post was written by PFT that didn’t have a link to some reporter that was talking about a story? It must be fun just to sit around reading other people’s stuff then repeating it with an opinion about what they say. Instead of you know, finding scoops originally.
    ***************************************
    why complain about the stories? PFT is making it easy for the fans to get national/regional stories in one place. for example, how often am i going to look up the miami local sports section? zero, i live up north. PFT did they leg work for us. they are giving credit to the original reporter as well…
    thereisalwaysnextyear, ever heard the expression “never look a gift horse in the mouth.” look it up buddy.

    anyway, i think carson is worth a 2nd rounder. if the bengals want a 1st, they need to give up a pick. the fact is there is a shortage of quality QB’s in the league. the bengals got some leverage.

  47. jebdamone says: May 1, 2011 2:04 AM

    i’ve always been a fan up palmer in cincy even though i have never been a USC fan in the slightest. he’s had some rough times over the years playing for the bengals but has proven to me with multiple great seasons that he is a very good QB and also tough as nails. i am with a lot of other people who think that a change of scenery will rejuvenate his career and he could be a valuable starter for another five years. since the day he said he wouldn’t be playing for the bengals again i have thought he would be a perfect fit for the vikings. another retread yes, but with the weapons they already have palmer could step right in and make the offense very good. this would also be great for ponder to sit behind palmer for a few years and learn…although ponder is already a 5th year senior and is ‘supposed’ to be pro ready. anyway, don’t see it happening but i think it would be great for both sides if the vikings can better their Oline scheme and protect him.
    as far as value, its tough because palmer is a multiple year pro-bowler and he really is still in his prime right now. but he is probably already starting to decline and it is a matter of how rapidly that happens. no way i give up a first for him, maybe a late second or early third, especially considering the bengals other option is nothing.

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