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Exploring the shoulder-chip that fueled Tom Brady’s career

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With not much actual football content to discuss and the draft still nearly three weeks away, why not examine the roots of the motivation that prompted Tom Brady to become one of the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history?

Two months after showing up at the Scouting Combine like a middle-aged man who had rolled out of bed with a migraine and a full bladder, Brady was the 199th player taken in the 2000 draft.  And ESPN soon will air a documentary entitled The Brady 6, which looks at the six quarterbacks drafted before Brady.

They were Chad Pennington (Jets, pick 18), Giovanni Carmazzi (49ers, pick 65), Chris Redman (Ravens, pick 75), Tee Martin (Steelers, pick 163), Marc Bulger (Saints, pick 168), and Spergon Wynn (Browns, pick 183).

The show debuts on ESPN next Tuesday, at 8:00 p.m. ET.

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59 Responses to “Exploring the shoulder-chip that fueled Tom Brady’s career”
  1. icewalker946 says: Apr 8, 2011 10:11 PM

    That doesn’t look like a 3-time Super Bowl winning QB! Looks like….ME!

  2. mistrezzrachael says: Apr 8, 2011 10:11 PM

    Great story about a guy who plays every day w/a chip on his shoulder.

    Think winning matters to Brady??? You want guys like Brady and Warner leading your team…So who is next one??? …Freeman…

  3. hobartbaker says: Apr 8, 2011 10:14 PM

    Throw it back before the fisheries officers come by.

  4. northeastern31 says: Apr 8, 2011 10:15 PM

    What I love about Tom is that he made it happen. He could have been content as a back up late draft pick but he didnt. He seized the moment and never looked back!

  5. FoozieGrooler says: Apr 8, 2011 10:16 PM

    “..why not examine the roots of the motivation that prompted Tom Brady to become one of the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history?”

    You say “why not”, I say “why?”

  6. turk2875 says: Apr 8, 2011 10:17 PM

    WOW…look at that stud, who would have thought after 11 years he would be married to Giselle (and have 3 superbowl rings)?!?!

  7. hobartbaker says: Apr 8, 2011 10:20 PM

    Giovanni, Spergon, and Tee, what a coincidence. That is the name of the yard maintenance company that works in the neighborhood.

  8. 3octaveFart says: Apr 8, 2011 10:22 PM

    “..The Brady 6, which looks at the six quarterbacks drafted before Brady.”

    The difference is that the others didn’t have a culture of cheating to back them up.
    [ * * * ]

  9. kelvinmchale says: Apr 8, 2011 10:25 PM

    Imagine the dude in that picture marrying a Victoria’s Secret model. Oh, and leading an NFL team to three out of four World Championships, too.

  10. siggy00 says: Apr 8, 2011 10:28 PM

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz……..Brady’s won nothing since they got caught cheating. Until he wins a ring without video his career is a far*e.

  11. dapell says: Apr 8, 2011 10:30 PM

    Lloyd Carr’s decision to jerk Brady around while at Michigan and put Drew Henson in was surely part of it.

  12. trbowman says: Apr 8, 2011 10:33 PM

    Bleh…..Giovanni Carmazzi – thanks for bringing that old wound up.

  13. duanethomas says: Apr 8, 2011 10:39 PM

    Horrible draft year for quarterbacks, but obvious the Pats hit a home run. Every SuperBowl check Mr Kraft should give Mo Lewis a percentage…Speaking of SuperBowls, this regime of Kraft/Belichick/ Brady will never win one again. History tells me the window is closed, once your run is done..its done. They may win more individually, but never again together. A number of factors such as Brady going Hollywood, Belchick self life for a head coach is expired in N.E. etc….but the biggest is the window is closed. Period. Point Blank. This is year 6 and counting. If you love the players thumbs down.

  14. benh999 says: Apr 8, 2011 10:41 PM

    Holy hell, he’s flabbier than me.

  15. lightninglucci says: Apr 8, 2011 10:42 PM

    Let’s not forget the Chargers in all this.

    Mike Riley, when an assistant coach at USC, tried to get Brady to come there but the head coach didn’t agree. Then, when coach of the Chargers, he begged Bobby Beathard to draft Brady but failed again.

    After Brady was gone at 199, the Chargers took a QB at pick 205 who never made an NFL roster. Riley didn’t last much longer, either.

  16. thereisalwaysnextyear says: Apr 8, 2011 10:51 PM

    Kind of looked like Montana coming out of college didn’t he? Maybe a little taller, but similar. Long arms, big hands, intelligent, productive and had “want to”. Starting experience should be valued more than one season wonders like Cam and Akili Smith(among others). I’ve posted(which kept being deleted) a great chart about college QB completion percentage and games played vs. future success. Cam ranked right up there with the worst of them. Guess where Brady ranked? You’d know if PFT hadn’t deleted the posts for some reason.

  17. thefiesty1 says: Apr 8, 2011 11:07 PM

    A skinny kid in his boxers, no wonder he was a 6th round choice. I’ll bet the Pat’s were sweating bullets when what’s his name went down. Looks are deceiving.

  18. iced107 says: Apr 8, 2011 11:08 PM

    Brady is proof – it doesn’t matter what you look like,fame and fortune can buy you anything…

    if only big ben could learn the difference “buying” and “taking”

  19. Deb says: Apr 8, 2011 11:09 PM

    Guys should be asking what the heck the Patriots feed him because he has aged very very well ;)

    My brother was at the Orange Bowl when Brady put on a show coming from behind to beat our Crimson Tide. He called during the draft to tell me the Pats had picked up a winner. Makes you wonder if anyone else watched the film of that bowl game.

    Tee Martin? I try to forget most of the Steelers QBs between Bradshaw and Roethlisberger, but that’s one I really don’t remember.

  20. dbellina says: Apr 8, 2011 11:11 PM

    Isn’t Tom Brady dreamy?

  21. Deb says: Apr 8, 2011 11:13 PM

    @siggyoo …

    Hey, I hate the Pats as much as the next person, but they won their championships. Don’t you guys ever choke on those old sour grapes?

  22. dbellina says: Apr 8, 2011 11:14 PM

    BTW, not that it matters one bit, or means anything of great significance, but Joe Webb was drafted at the exact same spot as Mr Stetson cologne.

  23. jamaltimore says: Apr 8, 2011 11:21 PM

    Mr Bunchen was and is an awesome story but father time and being scared of hits more than someone showing the picture you displayed with this article makes him look like a different QB!

  24. sterlingrodgers says: Apr 8, 2011 11:28 PM

    Wow. Even if some scouts thought he might have had 2nd or 3rd round talent, I don’t blame teams for being scared off by that pic. It seems very incongruous that the Brady we know today allowed himself to show up like that. Dude looks like he just rolled out of bed after a bender and hasn’t been to the gym in months.

  25. zilla1126 says: Apr 8, 2011 11:28 PM

    I have not seen the documentery – did any of the other QBs *also* unaccountably increase their arm strength *after* they had physically matured?

    It’s very lucky for Mr. Brady that his arm went from sub par for the NFL to a very strong arm.

    Arm strength increases from experience, right? Right?

  26. skleech22 says: Apr 8, 2011 11:38 PM

    Jim Nantz is somewhere in that picture with his clothes balled up heading for the door!!!

  27. descendency says: Apr 8, 2011 11:40 PM

    That’s got to suck hard. You could have had a twice MVP, Twice Super Bowl MVP, 3 time super bowl winner, and quite frankly QB legend…

    and you got Spergon Wynn.

  28. CKL says: Apr 8, 2011 11:42 PM

    Gotta love the typical comments by the usual people on here. Says a lot more about them than it does the Pats or Brady. :D

  29. terrellblowens says: Apr 8, 2011 11:45 PM

    I think it’s awesome that he wants to abolish the draft. I mean, it makes perfect sense to eliminate the thing that gave him the opportunity to be in the NFL in the first place

  30. tfbuckfutter says: Apr 8, 2011 11:51 PM

    No matter how many times I see that picture, I still see knee high black socks even though they aren’t there.

    Am I the only one?

  31. bleedsoe9mm says: Apr 8, 2011 11:52 PM

    the league should use this picture when negotiating HGH testing

  32. tfbuckfutter says: Apr 8, 2011 11:53 PM

    “siggy00 says: Apr 8, 2011 10:28 PM
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz……..Brady’s won nothing since they got caught cheating. Until he wins a ring without video his career is a far*e.”

    He has a ring that says he gets VIP access to one of the world’s greatest treasures.

    But I’m sure he’s real concerned about your opinion while he’s banging his supermodel wife.

    How’s McDonald’s working out for you, anyway? Got that Assistant Manager’s ring yet?

  33. j0esixpack says: Apr 8, 2011 11:58 PM

    Gotta love all the thumbs downs on the Brady/Patriots haters!

  34. ernestbynershands says: Apr 9, 2011 12:05 AM

    Brady doesn’t look much like a MVP QB. Compare him to the pics of Carmazzi and Wynn, er wait…

  35. nedhigginssports says: Apr 9, 2011 12:09 AM

    18-1 Forever

  36. jetsfan136 says: Apr 9, 2011 12:34 AM

    siggy00 says:
    Apr 8, 2011 10:28 PM
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz……..Brady’s won nothing since they got caught cheating. Until he wins a ring without video his career is a far*e.

    ——————-

    Being a Jets fan I’d love to be able to agree with this post and do the hate thing, but after the spygate incident he was 18-0 and threw the go ahead TD in the Super Bowl with a couple of minutes left……and last year he was 14-2. Pats have a ton of early draft picks and I expect them to pick up some WR help for Brady, so he isn’t exactly going away any time soon either.

  37. patriotsdefense says: Apr 9, 2011 12:35 AM

    I dont think Brady finishes his career in a Patriots uniform. Come 2014 I think he moves out to that $33 million estate he having built outside San Fransico. ($11 for the land, $22 for the palace… I mean house.)

  38. mtrjets says: Apr 9, 2011 2:00 AM

    Huh–Guess I’m the only one who thought this headline lead to a story about Mo Lewis……

  39. MichaelEdits says: Apr 9, 2011 2:04 AM

    He don’t look near as purty as Drew Bledsoe, does he?

  40. steelybills says: Apr 9, 2011 2:39 AM

    That’s good news for Levi Brown! Go Bills!

  41. philyeagles5 says: Apr 9, 2011 4:35 AM

    lol lets see if they show the other 6 QBs Spygate

    Tom Brady is nothing more than an NFL system QB.

  42. pftequalsgreatjournalism says: Apr 9, 2011 5:06 AM

    3octaveFart says: Apr 8, 2011 10:22 PM

    “..The Brady 6, which looks at the six quarterbacks drafted before Brady.”

    The difference is that the others didn’t have a culture of cheating to back them up.
    [ * * * ]

    ———————-

    I really enjoy your posts and they are usually insightful but this is just nonsense…

    You are better than this!

  43. brasho says: Apr 9, 2011 7:30 AM

    How does Brady look like a middle aged man with a full bladder? He looks like a 12-year old. A Super Bowl winning 12-year old (on Madden) but a 12-year old nonetheless.

  44. endzonezombie says: Apr 9, 2011 8:04 AM

    This is probably the reason that Tom Brady’s phone number was found on Victor Conte’s cell phone ( BALCO) when Conte was arrested. Almost overnight, Brady bulked up.

  45. EJ says: Apr 9, 2011 8:38 AM

    If it wasn’t for Drew Bledsoe getting hurt, Tom Brady would of stayed a backup QB for the rest of his career.

  46. emotionalfatguy says: Apr 9, 2011 9:05 AM

    all the hating comments are from fans of the teams who drafted Pennington, Carmazzi, Redman, T Martin, Bulger and Spergon Wynn.

    h8ers be h8in, yall.

  47. grogansheroes says: Apr 9, 2011 9:44 AM

    endzonezombie says:
    Apr 9, 2011 8:04 AM
    This is probably the reason that Tom Brady’s phone number was found on Victor Conte’s cell phone ( BALCO) when Conte was arrested. Almost overnight, Brady bulked up.

    _______________________________
    I see what you’re saying. After all, a 25 year old man, spending two or three years with NFL trainers, could never go from 215 lbs, to 230 lbs of lean muscle, all while getting paid to do so.

  48. fanoredsox says: Apr 9, 2011 9:52 AM

    I hate the Patriots! Having said that I will say that people can call Brady a system QB (all QB’s are in some form or another) but he still has to be a good leader and his player revere him. Spygate tainted Belichick not Brady. The players still have to play the game to win. I think the loss to the Giants showed everyone what Belichick is really about. The game wasn’t even over and he was headed to the locker room. He didn’t have the decency to stand there with his players as they had to absorb the worst loss many of them had ever experienced. A good coach/person would have stood with them and raised their morale. Belichick SUCKS! If it wasn’t for Brady he would fell on his face.

  49. moelester says: Apr 9, 2011 10:07 AM

    Brady isn’t bad..but he is far from great. He is just lucky enough to be on Belichicks team. Belichick is a great coach, who constantly proves no matter who he plugs into a position, he gets great results. Beyond this, he is a cheater too. A QB is going to look pretty good when his plays are called as a direct result to knowing the defenses plays.
    The year Brady went down a guy who never started a college football game took his place. The guy who hadn’t started a game since high school still excelled as a QB in New England… enough that Cassel soon after got a 62 million dollar deal with the chiefs where he has since been a so so QB. Take Brady out of New England..he might be a little better than so so..but far from great.

  50. zilla1126 says: Apr 9, 2011 10:07 AM

    @grogansheroes

    You are right that you can transform your body with the right nutrition and training.

    However, you cannot dramatically increase your explosive strength in your throwing arm.

    If you could, you wouldn’t see the onsession with arm strength that scouts have.

    Prior to about 15 years ago – no QB EVER increased their arm strength significantly after college.

    Now I know that we have better training techniques now – but you really think that everything possible was not available to Tom Brady at Michigan?

    I realize that most of you guys don’t have scout’s talent and can plainly see the difference in arm strength in Brady – but I can. It is as plain as the nose on his face.

    The rest of my suspect list:

    Jay (HGH Causes diabetes) Cutler

    Drew (My arm is stronger after tearing up my shoulder) Brees

    Peyton (I couldn’t throw a 15 yard out when I was a rookie) Manning

    That is just a few of the QBs I have been suspicious of.

  51. richc111 says: Apr 9, 2011 11:47 AM

    He should be happy the Pat’s took him there. I am guessing that if the Browns or the Bills took him, (even in the 1st round) we wouldn’t be talking about him today.

  52. tv426 says: Apr 9, 2011 12:18 PM

    Looking at that pic, it is amazing he got drafted at all.

  53. emdub52 says: Apr 9, 2011 12:32 PM

    DVR… Set!

  54. Deb says: Apr 9, 2011 1:53 PM

    I don’t get these comments about Brady mysteriously increasing arm strength after being drafted by the Pats. In that Orange Bowl against the Tide, he threw for 370 yards and four TDs. He didn’t exactly have a washrag hanging from his shoulder at Michigan.

    Elway was the best I’ve ever seen, but they showed him shirtless in his prime and he was the opposite of ripped. Arm strength for a QB isn’t about having Men’s Fitness guns.

  55. doe22us says: Apr 9, 2011 7:34 PM

    Tee Mart of the Chappelle Show lmao

  56. hboilers24 says: Apr 9, 2011 8:06 PM

    every sunday i watch the browns i almost always bring up spergon wynn. its fun.

    PUT SPERGON IN!!

  57. ndnut says: Apr 9, 2011 10:03 PM

    I give props to the ESPN “genius” who decided airing a show about the 2000 NFL Draft, DURING A LOCKOUT!!!!! As if we need more reminders that football is soon to be a once great game ruined by greed. Try going to your local high school games this year to ease the pain. It is especially fun to watch a public school vs private school game. Both teams love to beat each other and don’t have the greed the pros do. You may get hooked and start going to games every game, every year, waiting for the public school to whip the private school’s patootie one of these years.

  58. bcgreg says: Apr 10, 2011 5:38 PM

    @ EJ

    You really have no clue what you’re talking about.

    First, look at who the coach is. In Cleveland, he benched local legend Kosar for Testaverde. It is a known fact, at least in NE, that Belichick was not totally enamored with Bledsoe. Brady was 4th string as a rookie in 2000. Coming out of training camp 2001, he was 2nd string. I have no doubt that if Bledsoe didn’t produce that Belichick would have pulled the plug on him anyway. So, to say that Brady only got his chance because Bledsoe got hurt shows your ignorance. The injury accelerated his insertion into the line up for sure, but there were rumblings of a change at some point anyway.

    Plus, you never lose your job to injury, right? How come Bledsoe didn’t go back in when he was able?

    Stick to your own team and stop being jealous.

  59. Jack Burton says: Apr 11, 2011 10:39 AM

    Tee Martin, man flashback to mediocrity. Dude’s apparently a good trainer though from what I’ve read.

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