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Patriots fielding calls to trade draft picks

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Patriots coach Bill Belichick loves stockpiling extra draft picks in trades, which is why New England has Oakland’s first-round pick, Carolina’s second-round pick and Minnesota’s third-round pick this year. And it doesn’t look like Belichick is done trading.

Belichick said on Sirius/XM NFL Radio on Monday that with the rest of the league aware that the Patriots have a bounty of draft picks, New England is already getting calls from teams that want one of the picks the Patriots have.

We’ve definitely been contacted by teams below us offering to move back, and by teams behind us looking to move up,” Belichick said, via USA Today. “There definitely seems to be a lot of interest in our draft picks. And as you know we’re not afraid to trade them.”

One of Belichick’s favorite draft-day tactics is to trade a pick this year for a higher pick next year. This year the Patriots own the first pick of the second round (and thus the second day), and it’s quite likely that some team will call Belichick before the second round starts to offer the Patriots a first-round pick in 2012 for the right to choose first in the second round of 2011. So the Patriots won’t just use all those picks to bolster their 2011 roster; they also may look to build a stockpile of 2012 picks.

But Belichick also said he doesn’t just want to keep trading for the future forever.

“Sooner or later,” Belichick said, “you’ve got to convert those picks into productive players.”

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  1. paulieorkid says: Apr 19, 2011 7:43 AM

    “One of Belichick’s favorite draft-day tactics is to trade a pick this year for a higher pick next year.”

    This technique has been around for decades, but few have ever taken advantage of it. And it’s hard so see why more teams don’t take advantage of it – provided the coach is in a secure position with his employer.

    Think about it – if you give up your second this year for a first next year, and continue to repeat this process annually —> you will have double first round picks in perpetuity starting next year.

    Usually, the coaches on teams desperate enough to trade an out year pick for an in year pick are going to fare poorly enhancing the value of their picks too. To wit, the desperate John Fox in Carolina finished last in the league – providing New England with a PREMIUM deuce this year.

    And the teams trading the in year pick for the higher out year pick tend to have lower picks. Hence, why their coaches are securely out of the hot seat.

    It just seems astonishing that few, aside from Belichick FINALLY, have tapped into this angle.

  2. dccowboy says: Apr 19, 2011 7:44 AM

    LOL, This is the time of year that you can tell when a Coach is lying about the draft by looking to see if his lips are moving.

    Does anyone take this posturing seriously?

    This is standard game theory stuff.

    I think its just as likely that Belichick breaks his pattern and trades up to get that one impact player this year as it is that he trades into the 1st rd of next year.

  3. weneedlinemen42 says: Apr 19, 2011 7:44 AM

    I doubt they’ll be much value in “future picks” when there is a possibility that this might be the last ever draft.

    The potential to look foolish is going to keep a lot of GMs from pulling the trigger on that sort of deal.

  4. ampats says: Apr 19, 2011 7:45 AM

    I would love to see them trade up for an impact player like Quinn but I have full confidence with BB decisions in the draft.

    I am sure we will see alot of wheeling and dealing.You can be sure that they will have an extra 1st round pick in 2012.

  5. thereisalwaysnextyear says: Apr 19, 2011 7:51 AM

    Redskins are you listening? So instead of trading a couple picks for an old QB, who will no longer be there, start imitating the Pats. Remember trading that 3rd rounder for TJ Ducket in a contract year? Brilliant…

  6. seabreezes51 says: Apr 19, 2011 7:58 AM

    Parlay the tactic and you will ALWAYS have better draft positions then anyone.
    No one does it better that Belichik

  7. krow101 says: Apr 19, 2011 8:08 AM

    The Pats are a solid team, and frankly they can’t absorb all the draft picks they have this year. There just isn’t enough roster space. So packaging picks to move up… or trading 2011s for 2012s makes perfect sense.

    One thing about the Pats… they know who the patsies are. Vikes… Raiders… they have those chumps on speed dial.

    They’ll be very active on draft weekend fleecing the usual fools.

  8. Kave Krew says: Apr 19, 2011 8:12 AM

    I smell a trade up this year……..an impact defensive OLB or a Richard Seymour type player.

  9. Rhode Island Patriots Fan says: Apr 19, 2011 8:14 AM

    New England should continue to stockpile future draft picks, as they’ll surely need them when they start to look for that special someone to eventually replace Tom Brady, who will turn 34 in August. With the first pick of the 2012 NFL Draft, the New England Patriots select Andrew Luck, Stanford. Oops. Was I just dreaming?

  10. toledoohoh says: Apr 19, 2011 8:16 AM

    Most coaches don’t have the job security to know they’ll be around for next year’s draft.

  11. all4patriots says: Apr 19, 2011 8:29 AM

    Let’s summarize this hard-hitting news:

    1) the Patriots may trade down, they may trade up, or they may use most of their picks
    2) They are answering the phone
    3) In the past they have made a lot of draft day trades

    wow… who knew?

  12. billinva says: Apr 19, 2011 8:29 AM

    With the limited number of picks the Pats have for next year, I’d say it’s a certainty that they’ll be making trades to stockpile for next year.

    That #33 will be quite valuable with the way the draft is structured.

  13. vtsquirm says: Apr 19, 2011 8:34 AM

    thereisalwaysnextyear says:
    Apr 19, 2011 7:51 AM
    Redskins are you listening? So instead of trading a couple picks for an old QB, who will no longer be there, start imitating the Pats. Remember trading that 3rd rounder for TJ Ducket in a contract year? Brilliant…
    ____________________________
    I remember that trade. I almost threwup in my mouth that day. I have no clue what the skins were thinking. Another bad trade was the Jason Taylor trade. Countless trades like this and McNugget last year have put this team behind year after year. WILL THEY EVER LEARN??? QUIT TRADING AWAY PICKS!

  14. phinheads says: Apr 19, 2011 8:45 AM

    bellichicks game is old. as you can see…..the pats on the decline.

  15. clawledge says: Apr 19, 2011 9:03 AM

    It’s a great strategy except when the Pats pass on taking great players (like Clay Matthews).

  16. zimaman says: Apr 19, 2011 9:04 AM

    oh yeah he will trade

    but if the right guy is there between 8-12 and he wants him he is definetly going up to get him

    but that does not preclude dropping back later

    and I think the 33rd pick is the pick where he can extract a next years first rounder

    the point is Belichick is not predictable, you will never figure him out so stop trying and just let it happen

  17. nbcwantsitsmoneyback says: Apr 19, 2011 9:06 AM

    Unfortunatly for Bellicheck he hasn’t parlayed those draft picks into anything.

    From the the last five years all he has to show for all of those picks is Jerrod Mayo, Stephen Gostkowski, Brandon Meriweather and maybe the 2 tight ends from last year..That’s it…!

    I know the media loves to kiss up to Bellicheck for his drafting but the fact is the only thing is good at is trading picks…!

  18. CKL says: Apr 19, 2011 9:13 AM

    Well phinheads…they haven’t been a dominant team in awhile and have been rebuilding on the fly because their D was ooooollllld. So yeah, it’s disappointing as a Pats fan that they haven’t won a playoff game since Jan 2008, but I will take a couple of seasons at 10-6 and 14-2 as “rebuilding season records”.

  19. rc33 says: Apr 19, 2011 9:16 AM

    ….on the decline after being at or around the top for a decade, which last I checked is difficult to do.

    Tough to say the Pats are declining with the youngest defense in the NFL last season and a whole bunch of new pieces on D coming in later this month.
    Belichick plays the draft like no one else. Giving up a late 3rd last year for Carolina’s 2nd this year? All so John Fox could draft a QB that he planned on turning into a WR?
    End Result: the Patriots dumped the #90 or so pick in 2010 for the 33rd overall pick one year later.
    They’ll end up with a 2nd for 2012 by the end of the draft this year too. My guess is they’ll be trading both 28 and 33 and continue gathering assets.

  20. nuxsucks says: Apr 19, 2011 9:20 AM

    C’mon phinheads, you have a coach who was almost forced out the door, a quarterback who your own team and fans have little confidence in, and 2 free agent running backs. Meanwhile the patriots drafted a pro bowl CB last year, and continue to stockpile talent, so where’s the decline again?

  21. obsession55 says: Apr 19, 2011 9:23 AM

    Rhode Island Patriots Fan says:
    Apr 19, 2011 8:14 AM
    New England should continue to stockpile future draft picks, as they’ll surely need them when they start to look for that special someone to eventually replace Tom Brady, who will turn 34 in August. With the first pick of the 2012 NFL Draft, the New England Patriots select Andrew Luck, Stanford. Oops. Was I just dreaming

    That sounds more like my dream…i’d love for you guys to earn the #1 overall draft pick!! It’d be a glorious year for everyone outside of New England…

  22. blackglass3 says: Apr 19, 2011 9:25 AM

    phinheads says:
    Apr 19, 2011 8:45 AM
    bellichicks game is old. as you can see…..the pats on the decline.

    Please tell me how a super young team (except for Brady) going 14-2 is “on the decline”. I’d love to know what goes into this thinking.

  23. brutus9448 says: Apr 19, 2011 9:39 AM

    no wonder they haven’t won a superbowl in 8 years even with tom brady.

  24. rc33 says: Apr 19, 2011 10:02 AM

    They last won a SB in Feb. of 2005.
    Is it 2013 already?

  25. damayan5 says: Apr 19, 2011 10:05 AM

    I don’t get why teams still trade with the patriots. You’ll get screwed every time.

  26. kcphins4life says: Apr 19, 2011 10:14 AM

    Why won’t people STOP trading with the Patriots?!!

    They’ve been good and competitive for a number of years now…..b/c they’ve stockpiled picks and get good talent.

    STOP TRADING WITH THE PATS AND GIVING THEM MORE PICKS.

  27. gregjennings85 says: Apr 19, 2011 10:45 AM

    This guy is quite possibly the most overrated coach in NFL history. Since Crennel and Weis left in 2004, his teams have not been back to the moutain top, and in recent years, despite a ton of high picks, sans Dimitroff and Pioli, he has netted very few impact players.

    Suprisingly enough, since he was outed as a cheater, the playing field has leveled, and Belicheat can’t win another Super Bowl to save his life.

    I also like how Tom Brady has been the most average QB ever until Randy Moss and Wes Welker were acquired, and then, lo and behold, he’s the greatest thing since sliced bread.

    BB = Overrated.

    TB = Overrated.

    NE’s defense from 2000-2004 = Underrated.

  28. maatopdogg32 says: Apr 19, 2011 10:49 AM

    I hope the Redskins are at the end of that call. We need multiple picks desperately. I say the Pats give up the 17 & 33rd picks to the Redskins for the Skins 1st rder #10

  29. gregjennings85 says: Apr 19, 2011 10:53 AM

    “I don’t get why teams still trade with the patriots. You’ll get screwed every time.”

    and

    “STOP TRADING WITH THE PATS AND GIVING THEM MORE PICKS.”

    Clay Matthews, 26th pick overall, aqcuired from New England, for the 41st, 73rd and 83rd overall picks in 2009.

    Another Belicheat coup.

    New England is still looking for that stud OLB. I wonder if one will be available anytime soon.

  30. grogansheroes says: Apr 19, 2011 10:58 AM

    obsession55 says:
    Apr 19, 2011 9:23 AM
    Rhode Island Patriots Fan says:
    Apr 19, 2011 8:14 AM
    New England should continue to stockpile future draft picks, as they’ll surely need them when they start to look for that special someone to eventually replace Tom Brady, who will turn 34 in August. With the first pick of the 2012 NFL Draft, the New England Patriots select Andrew Luck, Stanford. Oops. Was I just dreaming

    That sounds more like my dream…i’d love for you guys to earn the #1 overall draft pick!! It’d be a glorious year for everyone outside of New England…

    _____________________
    Hey dopey, he was talking about the first round pick NE will get for trading the 33rd pick this year, probably to your team, and they get the #1 pick, as well as their own.

  31. gregjennings85 says: Apr 19, 2011 11:05 AM

    Patriots’ pick (better player available at that spot, sometimes position)

    Pat Chung (Darius Byrd)
    Ron Brace (Terrance Knighton)
    Brandon Merriweather (Jon Beason one pick later)
    Darius Butler (Lardarius Webb)
    Jermaine Cunningham (Carlos Dunlap)
    Taylor Price (Mike Williams – TB)

    What a genius.

  32. rayguyreturns says: Apr 19, 2011 11:09 AM

    “krow101 says:

    One thing about the Pats… they know who the patsies are. Vikes… Raiders… they have those chumps on speed dial.

    They’ll be very active on draft weekend fleecing the usual fools.
    _____________________________________

    Look at it from our perspective:

    So how would you describe this “fool”. Say you have a choice. You can have a Pro Bowl player (Seymour), or a poker chip worth a draft choice (unknown commodity). The player you traded away is selected to another Pro Bowl and your poker chip is still… a poker chip. I think I’d take the guaranteed Pro Bowl player.

    With the way AD picks in the first round, we need all the sure bets we can get.

  33. zn0rseman says: Apr 19, 2011 11:10 AM

    Translation: BB wants to trade up into the first with Minnesota for NE’s 1st pick in the second round.

  34. ernieernie says: Apr 19, 2011 11:11 AM

    I kind of think that Bellecheck has it right when he says at some point you need to cash in draft picks for productive people. They have more and the best draft pick numbers than anyone and I think can really pick some key players this year to boost this team to the top.

    Belly knows he’s close to finding those few peices of the puzzle he needs

  35. all4patriots says: Apr 19, 2011 11:12 AM

    nbcwantsitsmoneyback stupidly said:
    From the the last five years all he has to show for all of those picks is Jerrod Mayo, Stephen Gostkowski, Brandon Meriweather and maybe the 2 tight ends from last year..That’s it…!

    What about a pro bowl rookie cornerback, McCourty?

    What about one of the best young tackles in the league, Seabatial Vollmer?

    The rookie OLB Cunningham was also becoming a force by the end of the year. Before his screwup in not reporting his prescription meds, Spikes was becomeing a very good player.

    Mesko is already a top 5 punter

    Special teams has been revitalized by the speed of recent draftees.

    The last two drafts in particular have been home runs

  36. all4patriots says: Apr 19, 2011 11:13 AM

    I meant Sebastian Vollmer..

  37. mjdkid100 says: Apr 19, 2011 11:23 AM

    gregjennings85 says: Apr 19, 2011 10:45 AM

    This guy is quite possibly the most overrated coach in NFL history. Since Crennel and Weis left in 2004, his teams have not been back to the moutain top, and in recent years, despite a ton of high picks, sans Dimitroff and Pioli, he has netted very few impact players.

    Tons of high picks? What are you talking about? Mayo, Vollmer, McCourty, Hernandez, GRONKOWSKI, Spikes… and thats just in the last 2 or 3 years.

  38. mjdkid100 says: Apr 19, 2011 11:25 AM

    gregjennings85 says: Apr 19, 2011 10:53 AM

    I also like how Tom Brady has been the most average QB ever until Randy Moss and Wes Welker were acquired, and then, lo and behold, he’s the greatest thing since sliced bread.

    ————-

    Haha what an idiot. So he won SBs without them, breaks records with them, and hes average?

  39. mjdkid100 says: Apr 19, 2011 11:31 AM

    gregjennings85 says: Apr 19, 2011 10:45 AM

    This guy is quite possibly the most overrated coach in NFL history. Since Crennel and Weis left in 2004, his teams have not been back to the moutain top, and in recent years, despite a ton of high picks, sans Dimitroff and Pioli, he has netted very few impact players.

    2005 – Playoffs(Divisional rd)
    2006 – AFC Championship
    2007 – Super Bowl
    2008 – Brady injured still 11-5 and miss playoffs on a tiebreaker
    2009 – Playoffs
    2010 – Playoffs

    Combined record in those seasons,(also after cheating(ridiculous to call it that))

    W-L: 73-23

  40. flash1283 says: Apr 19, 2011 11:32 AM

    gregjennings85 says:
    Apr 19, 2011 10:45 AM
    This guy is quite possibly the most overrated coach in NFL history. Since Crennel and Weis left in 2004, his teams have not been back to the moutain top, and in recent years, despite a ton of high picks, sans Dimitroff and Pioli, he has netted very few impact players.

    Suprisingly enough, since he was outed as a cheater, the playing field has leveled, and Belicheat can’t win another Super Bowl to save his life.

    I also like how Tom Brady has been the most average QB ever until Randy Moss and Wes Welker were acquired, and then, lo and behold, he’s the greatest thing since sliced bread.

    BB = Overrated.

    TB = Overrated.

    NE’s defense from 2000-2004 = Underrated.
    ——-
    Get over it already!! Every time there is post about the Patriots or Tom Brady you’re on here with the same crap!!

    “Overrated” please tell us how all these former players and coaches ( you know the people who have played the game) are all wrong about this guy and you have it all figured out.

    And didn’t the Patriots go to the SB in 07 without Weis or Crennel?

    Haters will always hate…..

    Check out Bill Walsh’s record before Montana, guess he was “overrated” too.

    Brady put up solid numbers before Welker and Moss, then he gets to real weapons and shows what he can do but morons like you make excuses as to why he is good instead of just giving credit.

  41. CKL says: Apr 19, 2011 11:56 AM

    Well Gregjennings85 has been here to comment twice…now all we need is foozie and jimmysmith and the triumvirate of childish and factually incorrect whiners is complete!
    Newsflash…gregjennings85 doesn’t think McCourty, Gronkowski and Hernandez are enough impact players to merit consideration as “more than a few” in the TWO WHOLE drafts since Pioli left! Chung and Spikes look like keepers too and they got their great punter Mesko in the 2010 draft.

    I try not to be a homer and I DO admit that losing Pioli was my biggest single concern behind losing RAC and Weis and I think losing RAC and Weis definitely still hurts at times and that Pioli is a very good personnel guy but what they’ve done since those guys have left isn’t bad. Try naming me a single other franchise that has been continuously in the playoff hunt and hasn’t even had a losing or even .500 record since 2000 who has lost as many guys off their FO staff and coaching staff every year as the Pats have. You can’t.

  42. CKL says: Apr 19, 2011 11:58 AM

    Also I will always defend the Raiders for trading Moss. It HAD to be done, he didn’t fit their plans he wasn’t going to get on board with the new regime and he was never going to be the player for them that he was for the Pats in 07-08. That was addition by subtraction for them.

  43. mike32303 says: Apr 19, 2011 12:06 PM

    @gregjennings85

    Really?? lmfao im guessing your a packers fan.. so the fact that everyone is blowing up aaron rodgers is okay though.. even though he’s won one superbowl with an amazing defense as well. I guess that trading a washed up Moss for 3rd round pick when you got him for a 4th rounder 3 years ago is overrated.. you my friend have no clue about football and the business aspect of it. And how was tom brady average before welker and moss.. I’d love for you to argue that.. He won bigger games before they even came in town LOL.. God its like arguing with a 5 year old sometimes on here.. Get real. Belichick not only drafted Brady, but had the guts to play him over Bledsoe who had just signed a mega deal. He saw the talent and look at what its produced.. mmm let me check… 10 consecutive winning seasons, 3 rings, and 8 division titles…

    Yea i agree TB and BB are overrated….. hahahahaha

  44. packerfan12 says: Apr 19, 2011 1:01 PM

    The Patriots have a good organization, the best coach, and one of the best QB’s in the NFL. The only problem is that the talent that they are drafting…..is not making a huge impact (besides Devin McCourty). It seems like in recent years BB has been stock piling picks, but not getting as much production out of them.

    The Patriots need their first pick to be for their front 7, besides Vince Wilfork, they really have nothing going for them besides Tully Banta-Cain. The Patriots offense last year with Tom Brady was amazing, he won MVP over Vick for a reason, but the fact is their defense is terrible, and struggle against any team with any sort of offense. They need their first two picks to be in the front 7. They need another end, a pass rushing linebacker, and if they got Mark Ingram to top it all off, I will be legitimately afraid of them next year.

  45. gregjennings85 says: Apr 19, 2011 1:39 PM

    2 TEs a LB (with Dimitroff’s help) and a CB.

    Wow. Stop the presses.

    My point – the guy is overrated. Since he has been caught cheating and lost most of his brain trust, the results have been anything but exceptional.

    I know there are a majority of NE posters on this page, and I welcome that. Just know, the guy is overrated.

  46. gregjennings85 says: Apr 19, 2011 1:41 PM

    “And how was tom brady average before welker and moss”

    There’s no need to argue about it.

    His numbers were pedestrian at best prior to landing one of the best WRs in NFL history and a top-notch slot receiver.

  47. gregjennings85 says: Apr 19, 2011 1:43 PM

    “3 rings”

    Exactly – prior to getting busted for cheating.

    And…he was busted. Anytime you are penalized a 1st round draft pick, the NFL is saying:

    This…is for cheating.

  48. CKL says: Apr 19, 2011 2:40 PM

    packerfan12 says: Apr 19, 2011 1:01 PM

    The Patriots have a good organization, the best coach, and one of the best QB’s in the NFL. The only problem is that the talent that they are drafting…..is not making a huge impact (besides Devin McCourty). It seems like in recent years BB has been stock piling picks, but not getting as much production out of them.

    The Patriots need their first pick to be for their front 7, besides Vince Wilfork, they really have nothing going for them besides Tully Banta-Cain. The Patriots offense last year with Tom Brady was amazing, he won MVP over Vick for a reason, but the fact is their defense is terrible, and struggle against any team with any sort of offense. They need their first two picks to be in the front 7. They need another end, a pass rushing linebacker, and if they got Mark Ingram to top it all off, I will be legitimately afraid of them next year.
    ____________________________________
    Pats defense struggled 07 on because it was too old. Last year it struggled because it was too young. And at least they were opportunistic with turnovers which had been a big problem along with red zone and third down D which still are issues. I have some hope now!
    Yes they need a 5 tech and a stud OLB. Tully Banta Cain is meh and I wish they hadn’t felt a need to re-sign him.

  49. mike32303 says: Apr 19, 2011 3:09 PM

    @gregjennings85

    You keep saying hes overrated but give no reason why..lol. So peyton manning had reggie wayne, marvin harrison, and dallas clark for several years and only won 1 ring as opposed to Brady who won 3 rings with guys like deion branch, david givens, christian fauria, david patten, bethel johnson.. I can keep going trust me.. All that matters in this league is winning.. you can have gaudy numbers all you want.. Peyton has been outdone by Brady when it counts and thats why you draft a QB.. And im pretty sure his postseason numbers arent too bad either lol.. please he didnt even win a ring with a team that had welker or moss on it.. get outta here with this weak argument

  50. mike32303 says: Apr 19, 2011 3:12 PM

    And if you wanna say the pats had a better defense then go ahead because you know what there is no defense for a perfect pass and clearly peyton seems to struggle making that happen in the playoffs if you look at his record. The pats didnt win til Brady arrived and trust me Drew Bledsoe wasnt taking them anywhere.. this really isnt even an argument. Theres a reason why he makes almost 20 million a year..

  51. flash1283 says: Apr 19, 2011 3:22 PM

    @ gregjennings85

    Again, answer the question.

    How is it that all these former players and coaches are all wrong about this guy and you have it all figured out?

    The only player ever to win the MVP unanimously but he is overrated.

    Hate on hater, hate on….

  52. gregjennings85 says: Apr 19, 2011 3:39 PM

    mike32303:

    1.) Great example. Without Manning, the Colts would be lucky to win 3 games a year. Without Brady, the Patriots won 11.

    2.) Honestly, ask your friends, they’ll tell you – no one says ‘LOL’ or ‘lmao’ anymore.

    _______________________________

    flash1283:

    Sure. Winning Super Bowls is the main factor in the greatness of QB historically. Yet, football is the ultimate team game, and yes, I will concede that from 2000-2006, you guys were loaded. Does Brady deserve all of the praise for doing a servicable job in the regular season and a limiting his mistakes during those postseasons? No. Has he received all of it? Of course.

    Listen, I sounded a lot like you guys in regard to one, Brett Favre not long ago. I doubt anything remotely close to the ‘come to God’ moment we had recently will be thrown at your feet and wake you guys up, but I just want you to know, there are people on the outside of Massachusetts looking in that can cleary see the kid, and his coach, are overrated.

    What I love about NE fans, is much like us GB fans or PITT fans, you don’t when to stop arguing. Keeping with that thought, back to you.

  53. jolink653 says: Apr 24, 2011 11:08 PM

    soo again how is he overrated? he had the patriots a half away from another super bowl with reche caldwell as his #1 receiver…he gets moss welker n stallworth n sets the nfl record for most tds in a season n also sets the most points scored by one team in a season…then this year with a group of under 6 foot receivers 2 rookie tight ends n a couple of practice squad running backs leads them to the best record in the league in a rebuilding year as well as sets a new record for most pass attempts without an interception (36 touchdowns to 4 interceptions 9:1 ratio) and wins the first unanimous MVP award in NFL history…anyone who thinks tom brady is overrated is either stupid, doesn’t know anything about football, or just wants to hate because he’s that good n jsut let go of the whole spygate thing because it’s obvious that’s the only thing people can use against the patriots…they get caught then go undefeated while steamrolling every team they played n then having a down game to end the season…get over it n move on because when u bring it up u people just sound even dumber

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