Andy Reid talks up Kolb, Kafka

AP

The man who knows a thing or two about getting more in trade for quarterbacks than perhaps they’re worth is trying to do it again, possibly with two different quarterbacks.

After once getting a second-round pick from the Dolphins for A.J. Feely and more recently a second-rounder and a fourth-rounder from the Redskins for Donovan McNabb, Eagles coach Andy Reid wants to turn Kevin Kolb, and possibly Mike Kafka, into players and/or picks.  Once, of course, the lockout ends.

“Do I think Kevin Kolb is a championship-caliber quarterback?” Reid told Adam Schein and Rich Gannon of Sirius NFL Radio.  “Absolutely, I do.  I think he possesses that ability.  Now, that doesn’t mean I’m in a big hurry to get rid of him.  We’ll have to see how everything works out here after the lockout.”

If Reid truly thought that, then Kolb would be the starting quarterback.  At a minimum, the Eagles wouldn’t be trying to trade him.

And it’s obvious that they are.  Reid essentially plunged the “for sale” sign into the yard last month during the league meetings, and with Kolb due to become a free agent in 2012, the best option would be to trade him and get value, if indeed the Eagles aren’t genuinely interested in using him.

But here’s the reality.  Reid knows how to get the most out of his quarterbacks.  Feely was never anything special except when he was in Philly.  Jeff Garcia enjoyed a late-career surge after working with Reid.  Mike Vick has played the quarterback position significantly better with the Eagles than he ever did with the Falcons.

And how good was McNabb once he was traded out of town?

Thus, any potential suitor for Kolb needs to be concerned.  Ditto for Mike Kafka, another guy whom Reid seems to be willing to move, for the right price.

“I think this kid has got a big upside,” Reid said of Kafka.  “I really, really like what I see there. . . .  I think he’s highly intelligent.  I think he has great tools.  There’s a difference between being intelligent in the classroom and intelligent on the football field.  I think he possesses both.  Obviously, he was a good student at Northwestern but he’s also able to transfer that to the football field.  He’s a good leader.  You can see the guys are attracted to him.  He kinda knows how to use his receivers and make sure that he keeps them involved and on their toes and I think that’s a big part of it.  You see guys rally around him.  He’s very competitive.  You see the fire that he’s got out there.  Kind of like yourself, [Rich].  Every once in a while you see that little bit of nasty come out.  You’ve got to have that to play that position.”

If he was all of that, then the Eagles should be grooming him for the starting job.  Maybe they are.

Or maybe they just want to flip Kafka for a higher pick, and then draft another guy about whom Reid can rave in the future.

42 responses to “Andy Reid talks up Kolb, Kafka

  1. If he was smart, he would keep Kolb regardless of his contract for next year. Vick is fragile and won’t make a full season, now that defenses know how to play him. Pressure him from the left and make him roll right. everyone knows he can’t throw accurately rolling right.

  2. Andy knows he’ll regret doing it, but twist his arm and he would give up Kolb for a first and third round draft picks. Only because his wife has been nagging him about having too many quarterbacks on the roster. But you have to act fast. Quarterbacks who are 27 years old and have 11 career TDs to go with 15 Ints don’t come on the market every day.

  3. He wont get anything for kafka until kafka shows something on the field. point blank. And if I am looking for a qb, buyer beware of kolb…the rose petals stink.

  4. Kolb is definitely worth a first rounder. Especially when you compare him to the group of qb’s entering the draft this year. Eagles should hold onto Kafka and continue to groom him for the starting role.

  5. An article that leaves me with very little respect for the insight of the author.m Not even going to get into the numerous reasons why, just wanted to at least note my negative opinion.

  6. If a coach really feels that a player is a championship caliber player they would never want to trade that player.

    Translation:

    “Michael Vick is our guy, we want to trade Kolb because he isn’t.”

  7. Best of luck, but your STUCK with them both. If Kolb was your QB of the future then let him watch for a couple more years or at least until Vick gets injured (again).

  8. Don’t you think the whole father of the year thing is played out? It’s lime Al Bundy reliving Polk High

  9. The ads with sound that starting playing when the page loads and cannot be stopped are RIDICULOUS. I am a daily visitor to your site but I can promise you that will stop real fast if I have to deal with that every visit.

  10. I can’t fathom people that have to polarize this situation with Kevin Kolb.

    Obviously he isn’t a “championship caliber QB” and for those saying he stinks, you don’t know football.

    He’s a mature QB who has learned behind McNabb, played very well when he was in with starters and had trouble when in with the second or third teams. Many of his turnover issues came when he was thrown to the wolves against the Ravens, a game McNabb was benched in.

    Kolb is worth a 1st round draft pick, especially this year in a weak draft, especially for QBs.

    The Bidwell family won’t trade for him because they’re cheap, but Kolb would immediately put the Cardinals in the playoffs in a conference were 7-9 gets you a spot.

    He’s reliable, he’s talented and he’s been groomed.

    He’s not A.J. Feeley either, so stop the BS with that comparison. Kevin is more polished than A.J. Feeley ever was and I’ve been watching Kevin since his junior year at Houston.

    I don’t think Kevin is a Pro Bowl QB, but he can be much more than a “game manager” and with the right weapons and a running game, he could be a franchise QB.

    Never in the sense of a Tom Brady or Philip Rivers, but he’s not Trent Dilfer for christ’s sakes.

  11. “If Reid truly thought that, then Kolb would be the starting quarterback. At a minimum, the Eagles wouldn’t be trying to trade him.”

    Uh no. Reid could honestly think that Kolb is a championship caliber QB but still believe Vick is better. Which makes sense seeing as how Vick was in the discussions for MVP for a while there last year. It doesn’t mean he doesn’t think highly of Kolb its just obvious that Vick is suddenly one of the better QBs in the league and is a better fit for his more vertical version of the WCO. Now if he had a few more years on his contract they wouldn’t be trying to trade him except he doesn’t so he’s doing what’s best for the team as whole by getting the most out of a luxury item. Which is exactly what a back up QB of Kolb’s potential is (he’s won a couple offensive player of the week awards in his limited time which is saying something). Subtract a player that is a backup and add a potential starter some place else.

    Plus you have to assume he’s highly confident in his abilities to find and coach up a QB.

  12. There’s nothing wrong with Kolb.

    Last year after Kolb ran the Eagles when Vick was out injured, Peter King said the Eagles had 2 of the 12 best QB’s in the league. Since he got in the league Michael Vick has had more pure ability than any other QB in the NFL. It took Reid to get it out of him, and Vick was easily the best QB in the league last year. Of course he played ahead of Kolb.

    Fact is that Kolb is ready to be a starter in the NFL, and there is no reason for him to sit on the Eagle bench. Put him on a team that is running the West Coast offense and this guy will hit the ground running. The Bengals should seriously consider moving Palmer to a 3rd team and have that team moves draft picks to the Eagles, who in turn move Kolb over to the Bengals. There are other teams that need QB’s, and Kolb is easily better than more then half the starting QB’s in the league today.

  13. Just silly. If he can trade Kafka for something and get it, why not.

    As for Kolb, they can let him play this year out and see what happens. Either franchise him and trade him next year, trade Vick next year, or let Kolb leave.

    To suggest that the Eagles don’t have options beyond trading Kolb THIS year is sheer ignorance..

  14. If we’ve learned anything about Andy Reid over the years, it’s that “he needs to do a better job” and you can’t trust what he says…did I mention poor clock management and timeout decisions?

  15. Andy Reid comparing Kolb to a German author who defines magical realism … the NFL gets weirder every day.

  16. “Thus, any potential suitor for Kolb needs to be concerned. Ditto for Mike Kafka, another guy whom Reid seems to be willing to move, for the right price.”

    I think there’s room for concern if only because he’s been about 50/50 in the games his started. He’s average, at worst. You know, a David Garrard, 8-8 kinda guy. At best he’s Matt Shaub.

    Reid knows that Vick is the most versatile player in league history, and he’s going to do “The Tomlin” and ride him til’ the wheels fall off.

    Ps. Cam Newton doesn’t break any of Vick’s records besides career rushing yards* – if that.

    * 18 game season pending *

  17. On the rare occasion Andy says anything at all to the media it’s usually a lie. Philly fans have learned to wait and see what happens rather than listen to Reid’s bullsh*t.

  18. I always thought that the Eagles were going to trade Kolb the moment they drafted him. Andy likes a certain type of QB. People forget that Andy has always been in love with Mike Vick who was drafted 2 years after McNabb and got in trouble 3 Months after Andy drafted Kolb. So I don’t think it’s as much of a shocker that Vick is the starting QB on the Eagles as people think. 2009 was his first chance to get him.

  19. If Andy didn’t like Kafka and Kolb he never would have drafted them in the first place. His problem is with his wide receivers, not Kafka and Kolb. Both are west coast type QB’s. Neither Maclin nor Jackson like to run through the middle of the field. Andy’s choice then is to go with the stronger arm in Vick who plays into the strengths of the wideouts. If we had a healthy Wes Welker type of guy, Kolb or Kafka would be the better fit. I could see Kolb thriving with a good ground game and short passing attack.

  20. Hey, when they trash Andy Reid and Michael Vick it’s a sign of football respect. Both are among the best in the business and these morons who try to trash them still have to face their lousy football team. Unless you’re rooting for NE, the Eagles have produced some best football teams in the last 12 years under Reid. Deny that and I’ll call you dumb and stupid.

  21. smokehouse56 says:
    Apr 21, 2011 7:22 AM

    Unless you’re rooting for NE, the Eagles have produced some best football teams in the last 12 years under Reid.

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    As a Bucs fan, I think you are right on the money. The guy is a great coach and many teams wish they had the success that Reid has had. You would like to have a title but hey Marv Levy doesn’t have one either.

  22. I wish he knew equally as much about drafting vaulable assets in the first few round of the draft. Small linemen are Andy’s stock in trade and with the exception of Cole, he hasn’t gotten good, or even mediocre return on his investment. Doubt if an accountant and a fantasy football geek get you any closer.

  23. Exciting comments for sure. Isn’t it a shame that The Commie Union took the thrill out of the most exciting time in pro sports.

  24. jroman11 says: Apr 20, 2011 8:57 PM

    Dude knows how to coach QBs. Plain and simple.
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    He just doesn’t know how to turn them into world champions.

  25. this column is bs. eagles traded mcnab and gave the team to kolb. they did that for a reason. then kolb gets hurt in the first half of his FIRST start. vick comes in plays lights out. not olny does he play lights out but he is a huge attraction. would kolb get us on monday and sunday night football? everyone wants to see vick. so kolb never got his chance to be the starter. andy would never have got rid of mccnab if he wasnt usre about kolb. im not saying kolb is the next brady, just that andy reid belived he would be the starter b4 vick toook over the nfl

  26. If I were Reid I would keep Kolb.

    The Eagles are just one DeMarcus Ware hit on Vick away from having to go with their back-up QB.

    If I were an Eagles player, fan, coach, GM, etc. I’d feel much better having Kolb over Kafka.

  27. The Eagles would be crazy to trade Kolb . We own him cheap (1.4 mil) . And with Vick’s style of play he is bound to get hurt . Plus I saw him regressing to his old Atlanta self late in the season .That pick to close the GB game was just STUPID ! It was 1st down , 33 sec on the clock , and he had Macklin wide open down the middle !!! When Vick goes down , or goes into meltdown , do you really want to hand the keys to Kafka who has NEVER taken a snap in a regular season game ?!!!

  28. The Eagles should keep Kolb, shore up their porous O-line, and utilize McCoy more in the running game. On defense, a CB to play opposite Samuel is badly needed.

    Oh, yeah… Get rid of Vick!! The guy is an embarrassment to the team, the NFL, and humanity in general. 8)

  29. jimmylions says: Apr 21, 2011 1:23 AM

    Andy Reid comparing Kolb to a German author who defines magical realism … the NFL gets weirder every day.

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    Haha, this is the best Kafka joke yet. I don’t want the Eagles to trade him just for the comedy potential – maybe he can become a starter and trigger a “metamorphosis” of the Eagles into a Super-Bowl winning team!

  30. Oh, and most of these mooks saying “Kevin Kolb sucks” are the same jerkwads who, if Kolb ever manages to win a Super Bowl, will be posting with:

    “Hahaha the Eagles could have had him and let him go!”

    Because haters… they gonna hate.

  31. Andy Reid is a great regular season coach. Nothing more. Kolb is not worth a 1st and a 3rd round pick, there are only a handful of players who are and the ones who are aren’t exactly being offered for sale, are they?

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