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Red hair a red flag for Andy Dalton?


From the “Now I’ve heard everything” department: An NFL coach says he’s concerned about whether TCU quarterback Andy Dalton can lead an NFL team — not because of the content of his character but because of the color of his hair.

Peter King’s story in this week’s Sports Illustrated about the way teams scrutinize quarterbacks concludes with that detail: An unnamed coach couldn’t think of any great read-headed quarterbacks and admitted to thinking that Dalton, a redhead, might be lacking something that quarterbacks need.

“Has there ever been a red-headed quarterback in the NFL who’s really done well?” the coach asked. “It sounds idiotic, but is there any way that could be a factor? We’ve wondered.”

The coach is right: It does sound idiotic, like something Eric Cartman would have suggested in the South Park episode “Ginger Kids.”

But it just goes to show how intense the scrutiny of players can get in the days leading up to the draft. If coaches are looking at hair color, they’re looking at everything.

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  1. andyreidcarboload says: Apr 20, 2011 4:11 PM


  2. xstaticonradio says: Apr 20, 2011 4:12 PM

    well having no soul could affect his leadership ability

  3. imag3d says: Apr 20, 2011 4:14 PM

    Okay, so have the kid color his hair… problem solved 😉

  4. jhorton83 says: Apr 20, 2011 4:14 PM

    As it should be. Everyone knows that gingers have no souls.

  5. vertekal says: Apr 20, 2011 4:15 PM

    doesn’t Jeff Garcia have red hair?

  6. hey804 says: Apr 20, 2011 4:15 PM

    They are known to be fiery competitors.

  7. imarques82 says: Apr 20, 2011 4:16 PM

    I’d bet it was someone in Miami.

  8. nfl25 says: Apr 20, 2011 4:16 PM

    the real question here is, does the carpet match the drapes?

  9. bengalsown says: Apr 20, 2011 4:18 PM



  10. animalmother42 says: Apr 20, 2011 4:18 PM

    YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!!?? (John McEnroe Voice)

  11. hobartbaker says: Apr 20, 2011 4:20 PM

    Andy’s mentor Sean White says you have to have been a famous redheaded athlete to really understand the obstacles and prejudices you face.

  12. barnes28 says: Apr 20, 2011 4:20 PM


  13. mybuttsayspft says: Apr 20, 2011 4:20 PM

    Never trust a ginger.

  14. phintasm says: Apr 20, 2011 4:21 PM


    Gingers have no souls. Need proof? Watch ‘Problem Child’.

  15. bensstinkyfingers says: Apr 20, 2011 4:22 PM

    Reminds me of words of wisdom I recieved from my wise old Great-Granfather in regards to red headed women – “Red on the head equals fire in the bed”. Somehow that may translate to the football field.

  16. fin72 says: Apr 20, 2011 4:22 PM

    I wouldn’t want a fire-crotch to be my starting QB!

  17. hsducky says: Apr 20, 2011 4:22 PM

    Sonny Jurgensen wasn’t too shabby!

  18. shackdelrio says: Apr 20, 2011 4:23 PM

    “An unnamed coach couldn’t think of any great read-headed quarterbacks and admitted to thinking that Dalton, a redhead, might be lacking something that quarterbacks need.”

    You could go back 30 years and replace the word “red head” with the word “black”.

  19. canadianvikingfaniii says: Apr 20, 2011 4:25 PM

    Oh okay, I thought this new reason would have been outrageous. Turns out it is quite reasonable…

  20. buckhuckster says: Apr 20, 2011 4:26 PM

    GINGER *clap* *clap* POWER

  21. rdssc says: Apr 20, 2011 4:26 PM

    Bill Walton will be speaking about Ginger Racism before the draft.

  22. connie75 says: Apr 20, 2011 4:27 PM

    Better red than dead! Better red than dead!

    Seriously though, many redheads have done great things before such as Ron Howard and…. others

  23. nj22 says: Apr 20, 2011 4:27 PM

    LOL! Now I have heard it all. So if you thought a QB was the next Tom Brady you would skip drafting him rather then buy him some Just For Men?? Awesome!

  24. hobartbaker says: Apr 20, 2011 4:29 PM

    They also wondered if there was anything other than pulp and seeds inside that hideously grinning orange pumpkin.

  25. 8man says: Apr 20, 2011 4:29 PM

    Okay, football is never on my mind when I think about red heads….

  26. wtfchiefs says: Apr 20, 2011 4:29 PM

    Paging Warren Moon.

  27. blackheld says: Apr 20, 2011 4:30 PM

    “Hi, I’m Sonny Jurgensen, and I’m an NFL Hall of Fame quarterback. I also had red hair, back then.”

  28. mattysriff says: Apr 20, 2011 4:30 PM

    So there was this red-headed Hall of Fame QB name Sonny Jurgensen…..
    Still a heck of a color announcer for the Skins.

  29. bigjd says: Apr 20, 2011 4:30 PM

    Didn’t Sonny Jurgensen have red hair?

  30. pioliforprez says: Apr 20, 2011 4:31 PM

    never trust a ginger

  31. spungy says: Apr 20, 2011 4:32 PM

    No soul to sell to the devil for a ring. The other red flag would be being too nice of a guy like Dan Marino in Little Nicky. Now you know why Big Ben has a couple.

  32. turgidsen says: Apr 20, 2011 4:33 PM

    Sonny Jurgensen
    Sammy Baugh
    Jeff Garcia had a red head

  33. mike83ri says: Apr 20, 2011 4:34 PM

    Warren Moon doesn’t realize just how bad the gingers have it.

  34. hobartbaker says: Apr 20, 2011 4:34 PM

    On the other hand Dalton does recall attending an interview session with Cam Newton where the interviewer came into the waiting room and asked “Which one of you is the mobile, athletic guy and which is the stubborn and bad tempered?”.

  35. thesmiteofthewicked says: Apr 20, 2011 4:37 PM

    He’s just lucky he isn’t Japanese, or he would be doubly screwed over.

  36. profootballwalk says: Apr 20, 2011 4:37 PM

    I’d rather be dead than red.

  37. timegambit says: Apr 20, 2011 4:38 PM

    After a few bad games the Raggedy Andy jokes would a fly’n.

  38. thatdamnsasquatch says: Apr 20, 2011 4:40 PM

    Have you ever heard of Brian Ambrosino. When he had hair it was red. That Friar would not be too pleased to hear the gingers are being slammed by NFL scouts.

  39. wsgullickson says: Apr 20, 2011 4:41 PM

    Until the color of a man’s hair is of no more significance than the color of his eyes, I’ve got to say WAR.

    Also, Sonny Jurgensen wasn’t half bad.

  40. raiderinpa says: Apr 20, 2011 4:44 PM

    Being Irish, I find this offensive!!

  41. kd75 says: Apr 20, 2011 4:44 PM

    Blake Griffen has red hair. And he’s black (I think…) and that hasn’t slowed him down at the next level.

    Didn’t Doug Williams put these silly arguements to rest about 26 years ago?

    Either way, Dalton could grow up to be the next Jason Garrett.

  42. commandercornpone says: Apr 20, 2011 4:46 PM

    if they wont disqualify them for having a fro, they shouldnt disqualify them for having red hair.

  43. dallascheerleaders says: Apr 20, 2011 4:51 PM


  44. gsince1980 says: Apr 20, 2011 4:52 PM

    hall of famer sonny jurgenson had red hair.

  45. chiefdt58 says: Apr 20, 2011 4:56 PM

    I bet that s.o.b has freckles too……..

    Someone needs to look into if there has ever been a good nfl qb with freckles……now before it is too late……the draft is in 1 week for Christs sake!

  46. myeaglescantwin says: Apr 20, 2011 4:57 PM

    HHahahahh gingers..

    this is ridiculous.

    Carrot top had a cannon when coming outta highschool.. but no one gave him a chance.

  47. zn0rseman says: Apr 20, 2011 4:59 PM

    I heard the NAARP (National Association For The Advancement Of Red-Headed People) is suing the NFL over this for discrimination.

  48. mechajaguar says: Apr 20, 2011 4:59 PM

    Ad long as he plays like his hair is on fire on Sundays really care if he is a redhead.

  49. allforfunnplay says: Apr 20, 2011 5:00 PM

    when did Cartman become an NFL coach?

    “This disease is called “Gingervitis”. Kids who have Gingervitis cannot be cured. “

  50. brutus9448 says: Apr 20, 2011 5:04 PM

    that coach needs to get fired

  51. dpatt67 says: Apr 20, 2011 5:13 PM

    Silly. Red hair is a red flag for COMMISSIONERS, not QB’s.

  52. denverhighrize says: Apr 20, 2011 5:20 PM

    Is he natural red head?

  53. dapackisback says: Apr 20, 2011 5:20 PM

    Greg Cook had red hair, and Bill Walsh thought that if not for his injury he could have been one of the all time greats.

  54. rooneyruleblues says: Apr 20, 2011 5:23 PM

    Some people think that Red hair especially that bright red is a sign of a deformity. I would tend to agree that it is unnatural.

  55. jjrs89 says: Apr 20, 2011 5:24 PM

    Didn’t jarmarcus russell have red hair?

  56. Cowboys-Forum says: Apr 20, 2011 5:27 PM

    This one of the dumbest things i have ever heard. And this is coming from a non-redhead.

  57. footballisking says: Apr 20, 2011 5:33 PM

    For that teams sake I am going to pray that it was not a head coach or any coach with any real pull in the organization….because if it is you have exposed the flaw of some cellar dwellers problem..while good teams evaluate talent this coach is focusing on hair color and lord knows whatever else

  58. Tim says: Apr 20, 2011 5:35 PM

    Funny that this story is posted on 4/20.. I had this exact debate on ginger-athletes the other day under ‘similar circumstances’

  59. edenprairieballer says: Apr 20, 2011 5:35 PM

    At least he’s not from Jersey.

  60. thephantomstranger says: Apr 20, 2011 5:36 PM

    Brad Johnson won a Super Bowl.

  61. shaggytoodle says: Apr 20, 2011 5:41 PM

    This coach also won’t draft a player with the first name of Peter, because of similar reasons.

  62. fwbrodie says: Apr 20, 2011 5:43 PM

    Redheaded quarterbacks are the new black quarterbacks.

  63. tfbuckfutter says: Apr 20, 2011 5:45 PM

    It has been proven that redheads have a genetically lower threshold for pain.

    This is why there are so few professional ginger athletes….

    Well, that and because most sports are played in the sun.

  64. tmcee says: Apr 20, 2011 5:48 PM

    Nice work putting red hair in the title of one of your posts on 420

  65. seabreezes51 says: Apr 20, 2011 5:51 PM

    I wonder if he is a “natural” redhead? I wonder if the coach did his due diligence to make sure?

  66. nothimagain says: Apr 20, 2011 5:52 PM

    Being a Ginger is something you’re born with. Coloring your hair black doesn’t make you not a Ginger just like a non-Ginger coloring his hair red doesn’t make him a Ginger.
    Good thing Dalton is only soulless and doesn’t have a strange last name as well. Being a Ginger with a weird last name for a quarterback? He’d have no chance.

  67. demonspank says: Apr 20, 2011 5:52 PM

    Time to amend the Rooney Rule.

  68. thefiesty1 says: Apr 20, 2011 5:53 PM

    Greation Formula takes care of my hair color. These GMs are nuts.

  69. fground says: Apr 20, 2011 5:55 PM

    This is without a doubt the dumbest thing I’ve heard in this draft year. It’s right up there with the reporter that asked Doug Williams at the Super Bowl – “How long have you been a black Quarterback?”

  70. sageyoung says: Apr 20, 2011 6:02 PM

    That “great” Cowboys quarterback, and now head coach, Jason Garrett has red hair!

  71. Stupid Raiders Fan says: Apr 20, 2011 6:15 PM

    Todd Marinovich, no wait…

  72. Deb says: Apr 20, 2011 6:26 PM

    Archie Manning had red hair. He was a pretty good QB and sired two Super Bowl winners. Maybe the coach should just draft the guy and put him out for stud.

  73. shaggytoodle says: Apr 20, 2011 6:31 PM

    Red heads are also worse at hosting late night TV shows compared to people with big chins.

  74. beauregard says: Apr 20, 2011 7:08 PM

    I get a visual of Carrot Top doing a five step drop.
    What part of dog is that like again?

  75. johnstofa says: Apr 20, 2011 7:24 PM

    Carson Palmer

  76. bonerchamp says: Apr 20, 2011 7:29 PM

    They should check Dalton’s birth certificate while their at it.

  77. db3300 says: Apr 20, 2011 7:35 PM

    Did some of you actually mention Jeff Garcia as being one of the greats? Really??

  78. endzonezombie says: Apr 20, 2011 7:36 PM

    I can see the headlines now: ” Dalton beaten like a red-headed step child”

  79. footballisfun says: Apr 20, 2011 7:39 PM

    Your right coach, it sounds idiotic. And if I were the owner of the team, you’d be fired because I wouldn’t want an idiot on my coaching staff.

  80. coolhandluke1 says: Apr 20, 2011 7:40 PM

    How many QB’s with red hair have done poorly in the NFL?

  81. redruckus81 says: Apr 20, 2011 7:40 PM

    vertekal says:
    Apr 20, 2011 4:15 PM
    doesn’t Jeff Garcia have red hair?


    He said GREAT QBs

  82. tedesco47 says: Apr 20, 2011 8:19 PM

    when is the national kick an nfl ginger quarterback day gonna be?

  83. nekelund says: Apr 20, 2011 8:45 PM

    Has there ever been a successful head coach with such a big mouth and an empty head?

  84. MichaelEdits says: Apr 20, 2011 8:59 PM

    1) Bloody ridiculous
    2) When he gets as old as I am it’ll be gray anyway.
    3) Would Warren Moon call this racism?

  85. bensstinkyfingers says: Apr 20, 2011 9:06 PM

    Dalton’s Agent, One Alfred E. Nueman, released a statement that this news regarding hair color should not affect his draft status. He has been working hard with his strength and conditioning coach , Howdy Doody, who claims Dalton has increased his rapid one arm pullups to 50 reps per minute.

  86. 411dooleybug1 says: Apr 20, 2011 9:24 PM

    Had to be Sparano. But Jeff Ireland might have been the first to wonder about it out loud.

  87. goforthanddie says: Apr 20, 2011 9:38 PM

    As I recall, Ginger!Cartman led the Gingers to kidnap every other youngster in town. He also rented the auditorium, arranged the catering, talked the Gingers into a mass sacrifice, THEN talked them out of it. Sounds like someone you’d want running the show.

  88. MichaelEdits says: Apr 21, 2011 5:18 AM

    Fran Tarkenton? I remember watching him play and I remember watching him on That’s Incredible, but it’s been a long time. My hair was red back then too.

  89. dpatt67 says: Apr 21, 2011 10:17 AM


    “It has been proven that redheads have a genetically lower threshold for pain.”

    has been shown false (but it was just Mythbusters, so take it for what it’s worth)

    Natural redheads have a lower pain tolerance than people of other hair colors.


    The test was to put one hand in an ice bath at 1°C for as long as subjexts could endure. Two dozen people of each group (redheads and non-redheads) took part. The average time for the redheads was 132.2 seconds, while that for the non-redheads was 79.1 seconds.

  90. dbellina says: Apr 21, 2011 10:57 AM

    I know what he’s lacking. It’s what all gingers are lacking. A soul. Gingers have no soul.

  91. thephantomstranger says: Apr 21, 2011 11:37 AM

    Anne of Green Gables was right!

    What, you don’t get that reference?

  92. thephantomstranger says: Apr 21, 2011 12:28 PM

    Donny Most never played in the NFL. Case closed.

  93. bigchee72 says: Apr 21, 2011 1:50 PM

    LOL!! These coaches are toying with the media now, and you idiots are falling for it.

    Why should Warren Moon be called for what is likely white on white racism?

    You guys are idiots.

  94. pondbridge says: Apr 23, 2011 10:12 PM

    Perfectly reasonable thought.
    And while we’re at it, lets fire all balding, fat NFL coaches on that basis.

    Quoting Moe from Three Stooges,
    ‘Wadda maroon’.

  95. pigeonpea says: Apr 24, 2011 10:23 AM

    So was it the coach of the Bills, Panthers, Browns or Bengals that made this silly observation? It is not hard to tell such an assessment came from the coach of any kind of successful franchise.

  96. MikeHolmgren'sChins says: Apr 26, 2011 12:26 AM

    Let’s just hope he ends up playing more like Sonny Jurgensen than Ginger or Opie Taylor.

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