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NFL won’t start league year without chance to seek a stay

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Judge Susan Nelson has issued an order ending the lockout, without any limitation or delay.  The league plans to seek a stay of the ruling.

Until the stay is obtained, the lockout is, in theory, over.

So what if NFL players decide to report to their team facilities on Tuesday for offseason strength and conditioning?  Any team that refuses to let the players inside possibly will be in violation of Judge Nelson’s order.

That’s precisely what could happen.  “We do not intend to start the league year until we have had an opportunity to seek a stay,” NFL spokesman Greg Aiello tells PFT via e-mail.

In other words, if they show up, they’re not getting in.

It seems like a reasonable position.  But it’s a calculated risk.  The lockout is, until further notice, over.  Any team that fails to honor that order could be in trouble.

It’s all moot, unless players show up for work on Tuesday.  With hundreds of them under contract for 2011, we can’t imagine that not a single one will try.

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45 Responses to “NFL won’t start league year without chance to seek a stay”
  1. jakek2 says: Apr 25, 2011 7:53 PM

    You’re not getting the stay Greg. You better strike a deal with the players before you’re forced to bargain with them while they are playing in 2011 and before they STRIKE the super bowl!! HAHA

  2. nineroutsider says: Apr 25, 2011 7:54 PM

    Damn…I was hoping that when Alex Smith shows up the Niners would inform him that the lockout is still in effect…”but everyone else car is here”.

    I guess this kills that notion.

    Yes I know he is a free agent, but he has stuck around this long….

  3. duanethomas says: Apr 25, 2011 7:56 PM

    Players 2 Owners 0

    Judge Nelson for President!

    Next win for players Eight Circuit.

    Remember thumbs down pro-player…LOL!

    The smart owners got their arse handed to them.

    DeMaurice Smith is the man and a genius!

    The Players are killing the owners in this fight!

    Thumbs up if you love DeMaurice hat selection!

  4. eagles83 says: Apr 25, 2011 7:56 PM

    I can’t keep up with this…The lockout is over but we can’t trade or sign FAs and the players can’t show up to work?

  5. chapnastier says: Apr 25, 2011 7:56 PM

    Judge Nelson has taken away our season. Thanks.

  6. brownsfn says: Apr 25, 2011 7:57 PM

    This is gonna get ugly…

  7. footballisking says: Apr 25, 2011 8:02 PM

    once again shows the arrogance of the nfl…they have lost every court battle this off-season and just got told the lockout is over..yet they announce that it isnt over…and players will show up to work out and then inquire about the roster bonuses

  8. p4hbiz says: Apr 25, 2011 8:03 PM

    THE LEAUGE IS FULL OF CRAP! LET’S GO RAIDERS!!! STAY IN SHAPE GUY’S, STAY POISED FOR THE 2011 SEASON.. IT’S GOING TO HAPPEN SO ALL RAIDERS PLAYERS AND FANS GET READY FOR A AWESOME YEAR.

    GO RAIDERS!!!

  9. nineroutsider says: Apr 25, 2011 8:03 PM

    Here comes the whiny mega ditto posts…

  10. nineroutsider says: Apr 25, 2011 8:05 PM

    chapnastier says: Apr 25, 2011 7:56 PM

    Judge Nelson has taken away our season. Thanks.
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    How so?

  11. hobartbaker says: Apr 25, 2011 8:07 PM

    Let them sit until they are afraid to answer the door because they know it is their drug dealer coming for payment. Or the sherriffs coming for the jewelry and cars. Most of the players couldn’t manage a card game, much less a professional sports league. They will be quickly forgotten and replaced.

  12. sorryfolks says: Apr 25, 2011 8:08 PM

    What will the Redskin do if Albert Heinsworth showned up on Tuesday for his strength and conditioning ……..now thats worth a thought !

  13. pappageorgio says: Apr 25, 2011 8:08 PM

    Though I expected this ruling from Nelson and I understand her reasoning based on the political climate in her home state…….releasing this ruling at the end of the business day in some lame attempt to block the owners ability to request for a stay before players could theoretically show up for work tomorrow is another glaring example of her massive bias in favor of the players in this case.

    She is basically daring the owners to violate her ruling before giving them their right to appeal……this is not how I would have my justice system behave.

  14. airraid77 says: Apr 25, 2011 8:08 PM

    all the pro players supporters….the owners knew this was coming….YOU DONT REALLY THINK THEY DIDNT DO YOU?
    the 8 circuit is going to slam not only the players but judge nelson. And if by some chance that shouldnt happen, the supreme court will…..The reagan and bush appointees will do the job just fine..
    BUT BY CHANCE, if you think the owners are going to just fold? got another thing, their are no rules, no cap, no floor, and they can set whatever rules they want…..now do you really want that?

  15. tinopuno says: Apr 25, 2011 8:14 PM

    chapnastier says: Apr 25, 2011 7:56 PM

    Judge Nelson has taken away our season. Thanks.

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    Brilliant insight… as always! (Eyes rolling uncontrollably)

  16. mataug says: Apr 25, 2011 8:19 PM

    would be cool if Al Davis p*sses on the rest of the league and allows his players to work out :-D

  17. whathappenedtovox says: Apr 25, 2011 8:20 PM

    It’s over, owners. You lost, you greedy LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSERS!

    Hooray!!!!!!!!!

  18. fltharley says: Apr 25, 2011 8:20 PM

    this just goes to show who really wanted to lockout. proves the owners are the ones who wanted everything handed to them. boycott the draft and lets get this mess over with

  19. toolkien says: Apr 25, 2011 8:21 PM

    If I am an NFL owner I am now looking for alternative investments. I’m sure they enjoy being owners of teams and being big shots, but if they can’t get their return on investment they want, they will put their money elsewhere.

    We can thank Tagliabue for this mess. He didn’t want his tenure messed up and deal with the problems so he talked the owners into a bad CBA extension that the owners were going to get out of at the first chance possible, which this is.

    And if the government is going to de facto control the industry I’d get my butt and my assets out pronto. And I don’t plan on watching the new SFL, Socialist Football League.

  20. ilpackerbacker says: Apr 25, 2011 8:26 PM

    The Packers might as well show up and start picking out Super Bowl ring designs. The Vikings might as well show up and put some plants in their empty trophy cabinet and do the inventory on those # 4 THANKS TED jerseys. I’m sure Tracy Porter raised the value of them, LOL.

  21. babyjesus69 says: Apr 25, 2011 8:26 PM

    If the players will want to sway anyone’s opinion of who’s the bigger jerk off in this mess they will show up tomorrow for work. Would be major egg in owner’s faces

  22. sabeybaby says: Apr 25, 2011 8:27 PM

    With butt-wipes like Doty and Nelson, this is why that crap state belongs in Canada. Hopefully Obama will accomplish something during his term and change the border between the US and Canada to exclude Minny haha. It’s not a difficult thing to do, even for Bam.

    The LA Vikings will be just fine away from that Stadium and all the fans in Loserville.

    The NFL should never agree to a new CBA that has anything to do with that State.

    The Canucks will welcome the Province of Minnesota with open arms and a cold Molson.

  23. glen1904 says: Apr 25, 2011 8:27 PM

    its well known the percentages are against the owners because federal courts don’t often overturn other courts rulings. why then are the owners insisting to screw the fans and keep their lockout in place??? payers play the game and the idea in a game is to win owners have a business and the idea of a business is to make money, they are running a real risk of sports fans leaving for NCAA football and wont make it up with business fans. at least try to pretend its about the game and winning for a few more owners other than the Rooney’s.

  24. commandercornpone says: Apr 25, 2011 8:29 PM

    the lockout starts for real, now. literally.

  25. tubal22 says: Apr 25, 2011 8:31 PM

    “Everybody take the day off. Heck, everyone take the week off. No one will be here to unlock the doors.”

    Problem solved.

  26. odessabucs says: Apr 25, 2011 8:47 PM

    The owners and players need to all wakeup and realize that if the current NFL business model is altered substantially as a result of this, they are both on a fast track “road to perdition”.

  27. whathappenedtovox says: Apr 25, 2011 8:47 PM

    toolkien says: Apr 25, 2011 8:21 PM

    If I am an NFL owner I am now looking for alternative investments. I’m sure they enjoy being owners of teams and being big shots, but if they can’t get their return on investment they want, they will put their money elsewhere.
    __________________________

    And allow me to be the first to say…. WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!

  28. dkrause71 says: Apr 25, 2011 8:48 PM

    If I am an NFL owner I am now looking for alternative investments. I’m sure they enjoy being owners of teams and being big shots, but if they can’t get their return on investment they want, they will put their money elsewhere.

    We can thank Tagliabue for this mess. He didn’t want his tenure messed up and deal with the problems so he talked the owners into a bad CBA extension that the owners were going to get out of at the first chance possible, which this is.

    And if the government is going to de facto control the industry I’d get my butt and my assets out pronto. And I don’t plan on watching the new SFL, Socialist Football League.
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    Sports ownership has always been a horrible investment for return. Its why you don’t see the Waltons, Gates, Soros and so on have teams. Fans like to act like these owners pocket billions.

    If the Packers are pocketing 14M (I assume the fiscal year that is from is the round 1 loss to the Cardinals). And say the team is worth 500M (that would be less than half the Cowboys and Redskins btw). That is less than a 3% return. The owners could just go to the bank and get CDs for that return.

    So for all the pro player fans. Owners do not get rich owning teams. The teams that bring in huge money like the Skins also cost a billion dollars to buy. How to get rich as an owner is to buy the team before the league gets popular and then sell the team. How to stay rich, don’t buy sports teams.

  29. davisjosh20 says: Apr 25, 2011 8:52 PM

    the owners need to see this is their sign of the things to come. the 8th circuit will uphold Judge Nelson’s ruling, but I don’t think it will get to that. the players have the leverage now, and everyone can sit, and hammer out this deal. I hope the posturing is over, although, probably not. and there are rules. it goes back to last years rules. the only way there weren’t any rules, was if the owners won. Here’s to NFL in 2011! draft on Thursday, trades and FA! if the owners are smart, they’ll wait til next week to try for the stay, so personnel moves can be made, to help set everything up for this fall.

  30. commoncents says: Apr 25, 2011 8:59 PM

    Judge Nelson just franchised the owners.

  31. goldrush36 says: Apr 25, 2011 9:04 PM

    glen1904 says: Apr 25, 2011 8:27 PM

    its well known the percentages are against the owners because federal courts don’t often overturn other courts rulings

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    Hmm you do understand this ruling was handed down by a democratic judge while the 8th is has an extremely heavy republican majority right? The chances of you being correct in the long run is between slim and none. While I wish this would be over with already, the fact is this ruling will in all certainty be overturned. Players have spouted off their big mouths that they are still acting as a union. Proving the decertification a sham and increasing the chance the anti-trust suit fails altogether.

  32. vahawker says: Apr 25, 2011 9:16 PM

    All it likely does is buy another month or more of appeals, further delaying anything constructive getting done.

  33. snnyjcbs says: Apr 25, 2011 9:44 PM

    Any person that did not see this Ruling coming is a idiot, what did the Judge need to do to make one take notice slap one in the Face. The Ruling will be stayed if not by the Judge then by the Appeals Court until the Appeals Court can hear the case.

    How many times have you read about the win or the huge awards given folks in the Lower Courts only to be Struck Down or the Award of Money taken away all together or lowered to Peanuts by the Higher Courts. And with that it is May already and still no Free Agency, what a shame.

  34. wepickedwho says: Apr 25, 2011 10:01 PM

    @ airraid…
    And what is the result you’re looking for? A cave by the players so your favorite owner can get a larger return on his investment? How many of you watch for the owners? Can you really relate to Jerry Jones or Dan Snyder? What the hell is wrong with you guys?

  35. nflfan101 says: Apr 25, 2011 10:24 PM

    It looks like the D. Smith might win the battle, but the players lose the war.

    I was just thinking about all of the players BEFORE the CBA. They were not paid nearly as much (even adjusting for inflation). In fact, most players had to work off season jobs to pay bills. And they didn’t have much in the form of retirement benefits. They played football because they wanted to play football, not because of the money.

    Also, it was a much more brutal sport then.

    If the judge’s order hold up, I believe that the NFL will have to go back to that time and the players will be the poorer for it.

  36. nflfan101 says: Apr 25, 2011 10:32 PM

    davisjosh20 says: Apr 25, 2011 8:52 PM

    “and there are rules. it goes back to last years rules. the only way there weren’t any rules, was if the owners won.”

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    How can there be any rules now? The very law that the judge used in her order prohibits companies (teams) from collaborating on rules such as free agency, draft, minimum/maximum pay, minimum/maximum number of players, etc.

    If the NFL tried to apply the 2011 rules, it will be in violation of federal law as applied by the judge.

  37. 6thsense79 says: Apr 25, 2011 10:45 PM

    airraid77 says:
    Apr 25, 2011 8:08 PM
    all the pro players supporters….the owners knew this was coming….YOU DONT REALLY THINK THEY DIDNT DO YOU?
    the 8 circuit is going to slam not only the players but judge nelson. And if by some chance that shouldnt happen, the supreme court will…..The reagan and bush appointees will do the job just fine..
    BUT BY CHANCE, if you think the owners are going to just fold? got another thing, their are no rules, no cap, no floor, and they can set whatever rules they want…..now do you really want that?
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    Really? Are you referring to the same conservative Supreme Court that ruled 9-0 against the NFL in the American Needle vs. NFL case? Do you know how rare a 9-0 supreme court decision is? Look if you have some legal insight base on precedence to share than by all means share…..but it seems you’re only spewing wishfull thinking for your love of/ass kissing of the owners.

    Also…..the owners can set whatever rules they want……as long as it doesn’t violate federal anti trust laws. What this means is since the law considers them as 32 seperate entities they can’t get together and say for instance we’re going to pay every rookie $50,000 and not a penny more. They would be in violation of anti trust laws.

  38. thefiesty1 says: Apr 25, 2011 10:56 PM

    At least now the clubs can or al least discuss a contract with the rookies they draft this weekend.

    Camp Colt already took care of OTA’s. The appeals court will stay the order and then they can start over to deal with the “players association” only now, thanks to Judge Nelson, it’ll take forever to come to a decision for a new CBA.

  39. goldrush36 says: Apr 25, 2011 11:26 PM

    Most people fail to realize one critical thing is the argument. The fans that are in support of the owners are not supporting a bigger return on the owner’s investment. They are the fans that work regular jobs and are sick of already OVERPAID crybaby whiny @ss players demanding even more.

  40. narutofan10 says: Apr 25, 2011 11:29 PM

    they will lose the appeal it is easy to see that happening the league should just allow the last nail to be hammered in to the coffin

  41. btownsf says: Apr 25, 2011 11:33 PM

    I find it a bit funny that the “united brotherhood” of the players union… had no plan for this day. Can’t figure out if they should be there… or not. I would say that in a show of good faith that “they won”, that would all be there bright and early tomorrow morning. If the teams don’t let them in… that makes the teams look bad. What a missed opportunity to win the fans back… everyone shows up to work, like they say they want to…

  42. chatham10 says: Apr 25, 2011 11:36 PM

    The players won round one but this is far from over. The owners lose the appeal then they make the rules for the coming year until all the court crap is over (anti trust) and that could take a year and then they still have to come up with a CBA. A lot of these players will not receive the huge bucks they are looking for and the players who ripped the Comm. etc could find themselves looking for work.

  43. laeaglefan says: Apr 25, 2011 11:46 PM

    Dez Bryant is showing up for work on Tuesday. He’s bringing jewelry as presents for all of the Cowboys’ employees.

  44. kcfanatic says: Apr 25, 2011 11:57 PM

    If I was Haley, I would have off-season workouts out the ying yang. The players would be puking their intestines out. Hey, the NFLPA couldn’t stop you, it’s no longer a union.

  45. pu74y says: Apr 26, 2011 12:27 AM

    sabeybaby says:
    Apr 25, 2011 8:27 PM
    With butt-wipes like Doty and Nelson, this is why that crap state belongs in Canada. Hopefully Obama will accomplish something during his term and change the border between the US and Canada to exclude Minny haha. It’s not a difficult thing to do, even for Bam.

    The LA Vikings will be just fine away from that Stadium and all the fans in Loserville.

    The NFL should never agree to a new CBA that has anything to do with that State.

    The Canucks will welcome the Province of Minnesota with open arms and a cold Molson.
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    you sir are a dumbass

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