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Visanthe Shiancoe recruits Donovan McNabb with a little “alcohol talk”

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Plenty of NFL deals are made over drinks, not on conference calls.  So we give Vikings tight end Visanthe Shiancoe credit for his approach in trying to bring Donovan McNabb to Minnesota.

“You know what, as a matter of fact, I seen him out the other day, and we had a little alcohol talk, should I say, a little alcohol talk,” Shiancoe said on CSN’s Washington Post Live, via Dan Steinberg of DC Sports Bog.  “And I told him, ‘Hey, look , you know, Minnesota might be a good fit for you.’ I think that he would probably agree on that.”

McNabb has remained mostly tight-lipped about his situation in front of the microphone, and Shiancoe wouldn’t give away McNabb’s wishes.

“Who knows if he wants to stay here anymore, right, being in those circumstances? I don’t know if he wants to or not, but I wouldn’t want to stay here. Speaking for myself, I wouldn’t want to stay in this predicament right here,” Shiancoe said.

The “predicament” drew some criticism from a Redskins teammate over the weekend as well. DeAngelo Hall talked with Comcast’s Kelli Johnson about McNabb getting “pushed out the door” in Washington.

“It’s tough to see a veteran guy who can actually still play in this league get kind of pushed out the door,” Hall said.   “But that’s the direction this organization decided to go in. As a part of this team, you’ve just got to live with it and keep fighting.”

McNabb will be fighting elsewhere next year, with Minnesota as likely a destination as any team.  Mike Shanahan will need to find a capable replacement or more Redskins veterans may second guess how the team treated McNabb.

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108 Responses to “Visanthe Shiancoe recruits Donovan McNabb with a little “alcohol talk””
  1. krow101 says: Apr 25, 2011 1:25 PM

    Minnesota needs a troubled, disgruntled, pouting QB to replace Favre. It will end in disaster, and is therefore the perfect match.

  2. bigmann1977 says: Apr 25, 2011 1:27 PM

    McNabb wasn’t a dumpster fire last year. I dare say that he was the reason the ‘skins won that many games last year. Watching Campbell throw pass after pass into the dirt or into the expensive sideline seats on third downs made me ill. McNabb didn’t fit into Shanahan’s system, but put into the right situation(strong running game, and viable recievers) he can/will reach pro bowl status again. Super Bowl… nahhhh… Pro bowl… maybe..

  3. snowpea84 says: Apr 25, 2011 1:28 PM

    Lolls. McNabb is awful. I think what Hall should have said is that Mcnabb can still play as well as he ever could.

  4. dgforreal says: Apr 25, 2011 1:29 PM

    Obligatory “Come to Frisco” comment.

  5. MinnesnowtaJagsFan says: Apr 25, 2011 1:33 PM

    I think Shiancoe should watch what he says…even though the players are locked out, I am sure he will still see some discipline for Herr Gooddell for admitting to sharing some Purple Drank with Donovan…his momma is going to be so mad…no more Campbell’s Hearty Soup you for, Don-don!

  6. chapnastier says: Apr 25, 2011 1:39 PM

    Anyone who thinks McNabb can still play should compare his starts to Rex Grossman from last year and STFU.

  7. seabreezes51 says: Apr 25, 2011 1:44 PM

    If somehow someone could get chimps to catch passes with their feet, McNabb could become a real force.

  8. clintonportisheadd says: Apr 25, 2011 1:45 PM

    As a Packer fan all I can say is let’s hope Shiancoe is right and McNabb ends up in Minnesota.

    And since when did Minnesota become the destination of choice for old and past their glory QB’s? Brad Johnson, Randall Cunningham, Bret Favre and now McNabb? (I would have added Patrick Ramsey but he never really had any “glory” to begin with)

    At this rate I assume we should expect that Tony Romo will be starting for the Vikings on opening day in 2016?

  9. lucky5934 says: Apr 25, 2011 1:48 PM

    McNabb’s biggest issue as a quarterback is he doesn’t take chances. He won’t throw into a tightly covered WR or rarely to a briefly open spot. Yes, that is smart and prevents turnovers. However, when you need that big play, he didn’t make them as a result to being conservative. Couple that with the lack of playmakers around him in Washington (and even Philly the year before), I can see why he is getting a bum rap. McNabb would be a serviceable candidate for the Vikings, but would only lead them as far as Peterson took them.

  10. JimmySmith says: Apr 25, 2011 1:50 PM

    Shiancoe is not the sharpest tool in the shed so his opinion is basically meaningless. I’m sure when McNabb seeks career advice, a 3rd rate TE on a 4th place team is not his first choice.

    Still McNabb is a good fit for the Vikings. He already has experience playing on a last place team so his expectations aren’t going to be high, which is a good thing given its the Vikings. His best days are behind him which describes every veteran QB the Vikings ever signed. And his mobility is still intact and he’ll need every bit of it to play behind that offensive line.

    Any personnel move that delays the recognition that the Vikings still don’t have a long term answer at QB is par for the course. At least the Viking fans don’t have to wonder why they haven’t been to the Superbowl in 35 years, this is Exhibit A. Or maybe Exhibit B behind not only hiring Brad Childress but giving him a contract extension.

  11. hendawg21 says: Apr 25, 2011 1:50 PM

    Look McNabb wasn’t the biggest problem yet in certain situations he was the problem…the same problem he was in Philly i.e. throws at recievers feet, throws too high and the worst was just getting the ball to wide open recievers when he had good protection. All that being said I still believe he’s the best option at QB for next year.

  12. myeaglescantwin says: Apr 25, 2011 1:52 PM

    YYYYYeahh,,, i bet it’s McNabbs fault that the Skins have been terrible for the past 10 years..

    Its been proven Shanny is nothing without Elway and TD.. in what world does Rex Grossman give you a better shot at winning a game than D-Mac??
    I dont care what the scheme is..

    That trade made PHI look like geniuses.. everyone in the country tried to call us out for that too. too good..

    honestly i feel with a solid running game (which he never had here) he would still be a top 10 QB as far as rating is concerned..

    I dont know if he wants to head up to MINN,, but i can definitely see him in Arizon.. he still has the cannon that their passing game needs.

  13. schmitty2 says: Apr 25, 2011 1:56 PM

    If he is trying to recruit Donovan to Minny then that “alcohol talk” must have involved Moonshine

  14. ndnut says: Apr 25, 2011 1:56 PM

    Being a Vikings fan, I don’t know wether I want McNabb or not. I’ve been wondering if Frazier will give Joe Webb ( talented) and Rhett Bomar ( who?!) chances at starting jobs. Watching Webb play a few games last year gave me hope that the Vikes have a long term solution at QB. Though I also like Bomar, you know, the supposed to be amazing quarterback from Louisville a few drafts ago. The NYG took two QBs that year even though Eli had just won a Super Bowl with them. He was released and picked up by Minnesota last season. McNabb would be another in a long line of old QBs the Vikings picked up for a chance to win in two seasons. It is time for a long term solution to this dilemma.

  15. arnoldziffel says: Apr 25, 2011 1:56 PM

    Anyone who watched the Vikings play last season knows this is not the first time “Alcohol Talk” can be associated with that bunch. It was fairly evident throughout the year, as they staggered from one loss to another.

    Even the stadium roof passed out and collapsed.

    And then there was that liquored-up, unkempt fool dressed in animal skins zipping around the field on that rented scooter. Favre sustained his first foot injury when Chilly’s little brother lost control of that thing and ran over his foot. Should have parked it in the parking lot. Oh wait, that’s right … they forgot to build a parking lot. hic!

    Even Chilly was liquored up. How else can you explain trading a 3rd round draft choice for a malcontented over the hill receiver, and then cutting him a few days later? If that’s not an open and shut case of being liquored-up .. and then sobering up … I don’t know what is.

  16. hobartbaker says: Apr 25, 2011 2:00 PM

    Send Skank Ho to wherever No Nads ends up. Best solution for the Vikes. Both hugely overrated.

  17. kevinfromphilly says: Apr 25, 2011 2:03 PM

    I’m no Redskins fan, but I’ll bet it’s a lot tougher for them to see DeAngelo Hall NOT get pushed out the door.

  18. goombar2 says: Apr 25, 2011 2:03 PM

    If I were Shiancoe I wouldn’t be trying to recruit players to a team I might not have a future with. That’s just me.

  19. fargovikesfan says: Apr 25, 2011 2:05 PM

    Ugggh, enough of the friggin McNabb talk… I’d rather go into the season with Joe Webb starting than bring in a washed up “never as good as people made him out to be” QB. McNabb would get mad sometime during the season because his widdle feewings got hurt, and they’d end up having to pay him more money to continue to suck for the rest of the year. McNabb has no desire to be a mentor, so we’re better off going with a young guy (Webb, Locker, whoever), take our lumps while they learn, and move forward. This old has been or never was QB carousel is getting old. Get a franchise guy and go with him.

  20. friendlylittletrees says: Apr 25, 2011 2:07 PM

    Brett Favre is coming back…

  21. lionfan419 says: Apr 25, 2011 2:09 PM

    These are grown men they are allowed to have a drink . The league cant fine people for drinking?Anyway Suh is a beast!!! Lions 2011:)

  22. myspaceyourface says: Apr 25, 2011 2:10 PM

    McNabb is a lazy baby.

    The media desires for him to excel, he just isn’t that good.

  23. clintonportisheadd says: Apr 25, 2011 2:16 PM

    myspaceyourface says: Apr 25, 2011 2:10 PM

    McNabb is a lazy baby.

    The media desires for him to excel, he just isn’t that good.

    =============

    Welcome to the site Mr. Limbaugh!

  24. goawayeverybody says: Apr 25, 2011 2:16 PM

    McNabb used to be a top-flight quarterback, but his best days are far behind him. So he’s a perfect fit in Minnesota!!!

  25. riverhorsey says: Apr 25, 2011 2:20 PM

    McNab could still play if he had the desire but the desire is gone.

    He’s out in Washington and the boys in Minnesota been drinking one to many.

  26. adsbad28 says: Apr 25, 2011 2:29 PM

    hey jimmy smith quit giving yourself a thumbs up nobody cares or hardly agrees what comes out of your pathetic mouth u loser. shank is by far better than any TE the fudge pack has. hey by the way tell moms she makes a great breakfast in bed just to die for my man!

  27. fargovikesfan says: Apr 25, 2011 2:34 PM

    Bomar played for Sam Houston State. Brian Brohm was the kid from Louisville…

  28. spawnsacs says: Apr 25, 2011 2:38 PM

    Is Favre throwing to high schoolers yet? Someone talk to Longy and Jared and send them down there to find out.

    If McNabb comes to the Vikings, does it mean he will get picked up at the airport in a white Escalade by Frazier? Can he just come into camp mid August? Does he get his own private locker room. And, most importantly, does he get a company paid cell phone with unlimited minutes to start sending junk pictures to hot sideline reporters?

    The Vikings supposed pursuit of the McNabb is just another in the long line of awesome punchlines this pathetic franchise gives the rest of the world each year. Keep it up Minny, next you’ll tell me that Shiancoe was down in Hattiesburg mowing Favre’s lawn and courting his daughter……

  29. dragonfly99 says: Apr 25, 2011 2:47 PM

    Deja vu. Another Vikings player begging a well known quarterback to come and play for the Vikings. Who is going to pick him up drive him from the airport? Most pitiful franchise in the NFL.

  30. thefiesty1 says: Apr 25, 2011 2:59 PM

    He doesn’t want a QB with a future? Strange! I guess he and the Vikings like players at the end of their careers.

  31. blaz0037 says: Apr 25, 2011 3:02 PM

    Hey JimmySmith

    Your team won the SuperBowl, why is so much of your energy spent on the Vikings? The Vikings suck, we get it.

    You would clearly rather see the Vikes go 0-16 than see your team win back to back titles. How sad is that?

  32. kindbass says: Apr 25, 2011 3:09 PM

    Does anyone know why the Redskins even traded for McNabb in the first place? It seems like he wasn’t wanted there (by the coaching staff) from Day 1.

  33. machomaniac says: Apr 25, 2011 3:10 PM

    That contract they gave him mid-season just makes less and less sense

  34. diabloryno says: Apr 25, 2011 3:13 PM

    I don’t see why McNabb in Minnesota is rejected so much. It makes sense. Why go out and get a Ponder, Dalton, Locker, Mallett, etc. and throw them right in the fire behind a subpar offensive line? Should we throw them in there to get killed like David Carr did and many of his peers. Donovan might be on the tail end of his career, but why not get a long-term solution behind him and try to improve that Minny offensive line and hope he that rookie they draft comes out firing like their division foe Super Bowl MVP did when Brett left.

    P.S. Webb is not the answer in Minnesota.

  35. Deb says: Apr 25, 2011 3:16 PM

    @chap …

    Please. No one is arguing that Donovan is the same QB he was a few years ago. But he can still perform in the right system with a coach who isn’t having schizo fits. I don’t think he’s the best fit for the Vikes, but not because he can’t play.

    I’ve heard from Redskins fans who feel Shanahan was frustrated because Donovan didn’t live up to expectations. From my perspective, it seemed Donovan was constantly undermined by Shanahan’s psycho dramas. Honestly, I don’t know which view is closer to true. But I do know Grossman had plenty of opportunity in Chicago to prove he was the guy. He couldn’t. No matter what’s happening with McNabb these days, Grossman is not the more talented or better leader of the two.

  36. hendawg21 says: Apr 25, 2011 3:39 PM

    Hey…

    myeaglescantwin says:
    Apr 25, 2011 1:52 PM
    YYYYYeahh,,, i bet it’s McNabbs fault that the Skins have been terrible for the past 10 years..

    We know why Deagle Beagle fans are always so angry its because they envy the rest of the NFC East and most of the NFL…why u say??? Because of Super Bowl Trophy Envy…

    Even the once lowly Saints and Bucs beat u to winning the big prize….

  37. andyreidisfat says: Apr 25, 2011 3:48 PM

    As someone who watched basicly every game McNabb ever played in the NFL, IMO anyone who thinks the guy when put in the right system can’t play is nothing more than a hater who will never say he is good no matter what he does.

    If McNabb had kept quite last offseason and went to the Raiders, they would have been a playoff type team. What McNabb needs now in his career is a strong running game and vertical attack offense much like the Raiders and Minn. Either spot would be a great spot for him to play. Also you can throw Arizona in their but i get the feeling Arizona will be trading next years first and a player for Kolb when the lock out ends.

    McNabb put up good numbers for one of the biggest joke francise in the league maybe ever. I would never fault ANY player for failing in Washington. Especially what was done to those players last year. Hell i even feel bad for Fat Al and want him to come to my team for another chance as what was done to him was wrong no matter what the guy did. Both McNabb and Fat Al were sold a bill of goods and got something entirely different. Washington should do the right thng and release every player on the team so that those players have a chance at playing for a decent program.

    Also though i just wanted to add someone said McNabb lacked talent his last year in Philly. I beg to differ in fact I think his last year he maybe the most talented young offensive skilled team in the league. Jackson, Maclin, McCoy, Celek (don’t doubt him by his numbers last year he stayed in to block more than any other tight end in football last year) not mention vets like Avant and Westbrook. McNabbs days of west coast run around offense are way behind him. But he still has a canon and if you have a running game and down the field recivers like Minn. IMO he can give 3-4 more years of a chance at a superbowl.

  38. buhbay1c says: Apr 25, 2011 3:51 PM

    Alcohol talk and an African-American being pushed out the door after one year(Ray Rhodes) Sounds like Green Bay should have been tagged in this post.

  39. thephantomstranger says: Apr 25, 2011 3:52 PM

    JimmySmith says:
    Apr 25, 2011 1:50 PM
    Shiancoe is not the sharpest tool in the shed so his opinion is basically meaningless. ____________________

    Speaking of tools, nice to hear from you, Jimmy.

  40. jamaltimore says: Apr 25, 2011 3:53 PM

    Only thing redskins fans should be praying for is the strike. That is the only time their team is ever any good. Other than a couple of strike years this team is one of the worst franchises in the NFL! Can’t wait to watch FAIL to the Deadskins again this year, it’s like a car wreck you just can’t turn away. They feed all the soap opera too you in all the local news/radio/print as if there’s not another Elite MD NFL team 50 minutes up 95 and for many a shorter drive than it takes to get to pile of crap FEDEX IN MD!

  41. carlgerbschmidt says: Apr 25, 2011 3:55 PM

    Another washed up, over the hill, lazy, QB. Perfect fit for the vikes. Plus, vikes fans will get to see Joe Webb when they need to run the 2 minute drill while mcnabby is getting his O2. Shaping to be another great season for the vikes! Can’t wait!

  42. spawnsacs says: Apr 25, 2011 3:58 PM

    blaz0037 says:
    Apr 25, 2011 3:02 PM
    Hey JimmySmith

    Your team won the SuperBowl, why is so much of your energy spent on the Vikings? The Vikings suck, we get it.

    You would clearly rather see the Vikes go 0-16 than see your team win back to back titles. How sad is that?

    ————————————————-
    Wrong…you see, the Packers winning the Superbowl was just one small piece of the larger puzzle of just how great 2010 was. Favre’s lying and conniving to get to the Vikings, all the 24/7 garbage that brought your franchise, then getting picked off in New Orleans last year, then starting out 2-6 this past year, the fake injuries, the interceptions, the texting, the injuries that ended his streak…were the rest of the puzzle that when put together, once again shows the world how pathetic the Vikings really are.

    And no…winning another Superbowl is clearly better than watching the Vikings flounder….but as with chips and nacho dip…..they are both good, just better together.

  43. boysroll says: Apr 25, 2011 4:00 PM

    who cares who is QBing this disaster of a team as the whole org blows….I do not see one easy game on their schedule and they have a good shot of going 0-16…..

    Shanny canned and rides into the sunset with his 35 million……LMAO.

  44. descendency says: Apr 25, 2011 4:02 PM

    As much as McNabb likes guys on top of him, Visante should have told him to watch his video…

  45. carlgerbschmidt says: Apr 25, 2011 4:03 PM

    blaz0037 says:
    Apr 25, 2011 3:02 PM
    Hey JimmySmith

    Your team won the SuperBowl, why is so much of your energy spent on the Vikings? The Vikings suck, we get it.

    You would clearly rather see the Vikes go 0-16 than see your team win back to back titles. How sad is that?

    ——————–

    No reason why we can’t have both! Although, I’ll give you 3-13 for the vikes, maybe even 4-12 if you get on a role and mcnabby is super motivated to beat his old team.

  46. JimmySmith says: Apr 25, 2011 4:06 PM

    @adsbad28

    Ah, my mom’s passed away so the mama jokes don’t cut as deep as you might have hoped. As for Skank being a better TE than Finley, that just goes to show the stupidity level of the Viking fans. Get a grip, your team finished in last place and this year looks like a lock……for last place again.

    I miss the days of Col Klink, the village idiot heading up a team of nitwits being cheered on by the dumbest fan base in all of the NFL.

    Skoal Vikings!

  47. buhbay1c says: Apr 25, 2011 4:20 PM

    JimmySmith, of course your mother is dead, her son uses the term “nitwit” and references “Hogan’s Heroes”. If she were alive that would make her at least 102. And again, way to give your own post a thumbs up, man you’re a tool.

  48. thephantomstranger says: Apr 25, 2011 4:23 PM

    JimmySmith says:
    Apr 25, 2011 4:06 PM
    @adsbad28

    As for Skank being a better TE than Finley, that just goes to show the stupidity level of the Viking fans.
    ____________________

    The only season Finley ever did anything (2009) he had 55 catches for 676 yards and 5 TDs. That year, Shank-dog had 56 catches for 566 yards and 11 TDs. And Shank-dog has played in 16 games for each of the last 8 seasons, whereas Finley can’t play 3 games in a row without getting injured.

  49. hendawg21 says: Apr 25, 2011 4:36 PM

    come on now…

    jamaltimore says:
    Apr 25, 2011 3:53 PM

    now here is a fan who’s team snuck out in the middle of the night moved to a new city…what does that say about B-more???? Now u have to root for the Baltimore Browns and a linebacker who bought his way out of murder charge, fans in B-more have second city syndrome because they want to be WASHINGTON….NOT

  50. Deb says: Apr 25, 2011 4:56 PM

    carlgerbschmidt says:
    Another washed up, over the hill, lazy, QB. Perfect fit for the vikes.

    ————————————————-
    Another rival fan jumping up and down on a tree limb screaming nonsense like a monkey.

    If you happen to be a Pack fan, no matter what occurred in that Saints game, Favre clobbered you guys twice in 2009 in one of the most exciting seasons I’ve seen as a football fan. So he was hardly washed up. And the Iron Man has never been a lazy player. Just one of the hits he took last year would leave you slobbering like an infant. A lot went wrong with the Vikes in 2010, including by the NFL’s admission bad officiating in their first game with Green Bay, so don’t get c*cky.

    Favre may be a jackass off the field, but he was one of the most thrilling players ever first in Green Bay, then New York, and finally in Minnesota. And when your own grandkids can’t remember your name, we’ll still be watching his clips no matter how much Pack fans want to live in denial.

    (Just to save you the time of typing the usual comeback … diehard Steeler so I don’t care that the Vikes have never won a Super Bowl, admire Favre’s play but his character is irrelevant on the field, and just because a guy is a great player doesn’t mean I yearn to see his junk shots. The female brain is a little more complex than that.)

  51. smootysmoot says: Apr 25, 2011 4:58 PM

    @myeaglescantwin

    I’m assuming that u r an Eagles fan? If u r, there is no disputing that the Skins have not been good for a long time. I will say this, the Skins have won just as many Championships over the past 10 years as the Eagles.

  52. really2011 says: Apr 25, 2011 5:15 PM

    You know I am not really sure about what McNabb has in the tank but based on some Vikings fans hating and Eagles fans forgetting, I looked up some data. The database that I used doesn’t have 2010/2011 data so thru 2009 D Mc compares fairly favorable with another Viking QB that everyone wanted back (Favre). Not sure that 2010/2011 would have changed this much both had terrible years.

    McNabb Career Rating 93.0
    Favre Career Rating 89.5

    McNabb Completion Percentage 65.1%
    Favre Completion Percentage 64.8%

    McNabb Yards Per Attempt 7.19
    Favre Yards per Attempt 7.19

    McNabb TD to Int Ratio 2.22
    Favre TD to Int Ratio 1.53

    McNabb’s 1st year away from Philly
    77.1 Rating, 58.3% Completion, 1 TD to Int Ratio
    Favre’s 1st year away from Green Bay
    81 Rating, 65.7% Completion, 1 TD to Int Ratio

    Other facts we know about McNabb…

    Top Receivng Threat by Year
    1999 Torrance Small
    2000 Chad Lewis
    2001 James Thrash
    2002 Todd Pinkston
    2003 James Thrash
    2004 Terrell Owens
    2005 LJ Smith (TE)
    2006 Brian Westbrook (RB)
    2007 Brian Westbrook (RB)
    2008 Desean Jackson (Rookie)
    2009 Brent Celek (TE)
    2010 Santana Moss (WR)

    Save for 2004, McNabb never played with a stud in his Prime. Before we start with the whole D Jack deal, he had more yards, TD’s, and Receptions in year 2 with McNabb then he did last year with Vick and Mr. throw for 300 yards in his first 2 starts. You know the same guy who threw for 2 TD’s and 3 INT’s in one of the lopsided losses and 2 TD’s against the Chiefs.

    So in short – McNabb has done a ton for the Eagles and hey if other QB’s can get a buy after throwing 22 TD’s and 22 INT’s there first year on a new team, I am pretty sure McNabb deserves one as well.

  53. spawnsacs says: Apr 25, 2011 5:18 PM

    thephantomstranger says:
    Apr 25, 2011 4:23 PM
    JimmySmith says:
    Apr 25, 2011 4:06 PM
    @adsbad28

    As for Skank being a better TE than Finley, that just goes to show the stupidity level of the Viking fans.
    ____________________

    The only season Finley ever did anything (2009) he had 55 catches for 676 yards and 5 TDs. That year, Shank-dog had 56 catches for 566 yards and 11 TDs. And Shank-dog has played in 16 games for each of the last 8 seasons, whereas Finley can’t play 3 games in a row without getting injured.

    _____________________________

    Two things:
    1. Who’s your QB again?
    2. What has your team won in the last 35 years?

    And Deb,

    The Packers won Superbowl XLV. Somehow gettting “clobbered” by Favre in 2009 just doesn’t mean anything right now. But, thanks for trying to “pick the scab.”

    It’s funny how someone can ignore a deviant scumbag like Favre, stating the things he did “off the field” mean nothing, and then turn around and cheer him while he is in uniform on the field. I bet if you had a daughter who dated a convicted rapist, who’s crimes were done away from your home, you would welcome him to your table for Easter dinner. Right?

  54. adsbad28 says: Apr 25, 2011 5:33 PM

    there u go again jimmydick. shank can finish seasons tell me when finley played an entire season and give me the numbers on him and ill give u the numbers on shank then we will see whose better. oh about your mom oh well!!

  55. stixzidinia says: Apr 25, 2011 5:33 PM

    Yeah great move. Go and bring in another over-rated, washed up, has-been. I really think that approach will work better for you this time around. LOL.

  56. dazdillinger213 says: Apr 25, 2011 5:39 PM

    I wish the internet was around from 1970-1992 and see what you Packer fans would have said then.

  57. dazdillinger213 says: Apr 25, 2011 5:40 PM

    They are bringing him in as a stop gap QB….you dumb bastards. He will be able to grom a young QB to fit the system.

  58. dazdillinger213 says: Apr 25, 2011 5:52 PM

    Jimmy, please…. will you meet me in person?

  59. Deb says: Apr 25, 2011 5:55 PM

    @spawnsacs ….

    Don’t be silly. Favre’s no danger to women; just a married guy making a fool of himself. And what I meant by “irrelevant” is that his private life is no more my business than are the private lives of my doctor, insurance agent, and auto mechanic.

    Not trying to pick at your scab–with that shiny new Lombardi on the shelf, it shouldn’t matter anymore. Winning is the best revenge. Just thought that guy’s nonsense about lazy, washed up, yada yada was too much. He’s back on the farm. Let it go.

  60. sasquash20 says: Apr 25, 2011 6:06 PM

    McNabb doesn’t suck. He got benched for one reason. The skins didn’t want to give up a 3rd to Philly. By benching McNabb they didn’t trigger the 90 percent playing time kicker in the trade deal that would have made the pick a 3rd instead of a 4th. They had no shot at the playoffs by that point. McNabb also didn’t suck because there offense stunk. They had no O-Line, questionable running game, and there best wr was Santana Moss (descent but needs time to get open). I’m not saying McNabb is a probowler, but even at his age he is better then half the QBs in the NFL right now. The Vikings would be morons to not try and get this guy. One, he wouldn’t cost an arm and a leg. Two he is a pro, and would mentor a young QB the Vikings should draft(like a K.Kolb). With A.Peterson, Sindney Rice?, P.Harvin, Shainco, and a ok to solid O-Line he could possibly thrive in Minn. There defense is only getting shakier, the time to try and push for another run is now. Reload Vikings don’t rebuild.

  61. weneedlinemen42 says: Apr 25, 2011 6:14 PM

    As a Redskins fan I had high hopes when we signed McNabb. but he played badly last year.

    There were mitigating factors. He was playing behind a dreadful o-line and throwing to a poor receiving corps. Yet, there is no avoiding the fact that he played badly.

    He arrived looking a lot thinner and better conditioned than he had for many years but, even so, he didn’t look like he was moving well at the start of the season.He didn’t do a bad job avoiding pressure, and got plenty of practice thanks to dodgy pass blocking, but he just didn’t look right on the run.

    The team claimed hamstring problems affected his ability to practise throughout the season. Still it didn’t excuse the inaccuracy. He missed a lot of open receivers. He rarely hit anyone in stride. He threw a number of terrible interceptions where he couldn’t even be said to be trying to force the ball in between defenders. He just seemed to miss them altogether and lob the ball into a vague area near a receiver, regardless of how many defenders were there.

    The worst part though was that he seemed to have real problems running the offence. The pace was terrible and there were numerous occasions when you’d see O.C. Kyle Shanahan with a “WTF is he doing” expression plastered all over his face.

    There are people who think that McNabb was hard done by when McNabb benched him in the Lions game but, frankly, he deserved to be pulled. The Lions defence had crushed our o-line during that game, but a combination of luck and special teams had given us a winning position. All McNabb had to do was run time off the clock and instead he threw one of the stupidest interceptions I’ve ever seen. He had plenty of time and instead of running with it, kneeling on it or just throwing it away he lobbed it up to receiver that wasn’t just covered but submerged beneath the defence.

  62. JimmySmith says: Apr 25, 2011 6:23 PM

    @dazdillinger213

    Before I agree to meet you in person, what are your intentions?

    For the record, I’m not gay so if yours is a love interest, stick with your fellow Viking fans.

    If you’re not in a hurry, I attend all the Packer Viking games at the Metrodump so maybe we can meet at the game. I’ll be the one laughing at Chris Cook after he gets burned for a long TD and argues with his teammates.

  63. dd393 says: Apr 25, 2011 6:57 PM

    Maybe Shiancoe can take him for a boat ride next.

  64. thegonz13 says: Apr 25, 2011 7:07 PM

    Wasn’t Shiancoe also partly responsible for “recruiting” Brett Favre last year…?

  65. dazdillinger213 says: Apr 25, 2011 8:41 PM

    @Jimmy, I see you’re stupid jokes get no funnier.

    My intentions are to remain to be seen. I go to Lambeau every year as well. Either spot works for me. I just want to see how you talk to someone in person instead of the pointless comments you leave on every Viking news story. See if you talk all big in front of someone.

    Yes, I am dead serious.

  66. dazdillinger213 says: Apr 25, 2011 8:50 PM

    *your.

  67. buhbay1c says: Apr 25, 2011 11:38 PM

    Daz, I’m afraid your attempt to meet Jimmy is a pointless one. He will continue to pay Minnesota taxes and hide behind his computer like a good little bitch.

  68. carlgerbschmidt says: Apr 26, 2011 9:20 AM

    Deb says:
    Apr 25, 2011 5:55 PM
    Just thought that guy’s nonsense about lazy, washed up, yada yada was too much. He’s back on the farm. Let it go.

    __________

    HA HA HA HA! McFlabby as “lazy, washed up” was too much? Really? Remind me again, who was that guy that shanny benched so he could bring in REX GROSSMAN to run the 2-minute drill because they thought he couldn’t handle running down the field again? Enjoy, vikes! He’s the best!

  69. carlgerbschmidt says: Apr 26, 2011 10:01 AM

    dazdillinger213 says:
    Apr 25, 2011 8:41 PM
    @Jimmy, I see you’re stupid jokes get no funnier.

    My intentions are to remain to be seen. I go to Lambeau every year as well. Either spot works for me. I just want to see how you talk to someone in person instead of the pointless comments you leave on every Viking news story. See if you talk all big in front of someone.

    Yes, I am dead serious.

    ____________

    Are you? Are you dead serious? What are you going to do? Beat him up? Typical drunken, blithering idiot of a viking fan. No wonder your team is in such great shape, with such a sophisticated, knowledgeable fan base. I can’t wait for the season to start so the vikes can start losing.

  70. carlgerbschmidt says: Apr 26, 2011 10:31 AM

    Deb says:

    Another rival fan jumping up and down on a tree limb screaming nonsense like a monkey.

    ________

    Not sure where you’re getting this idea. From here it looks like you, Daz, and buhbay1c are the screaming monkeys jumping up and down on the tree limb. We Pack fans couldn’t be more calm and composed. It’s the peace that comes from knowing your squad is the best run organization in the NFL and poised to make runs at The Lombardi for the next 4-6 years.

  71. JimmySmith says: Apr 26, 2011 12:09 PM

    @dazdillinger213

    Wow, what’s next? Are you going to double-dare me? I would hate to inflict any further pain upon you after you watch the Vikings, that’s painful enough, so maybe we should make it pre-game time? If its at Lambeau, I will offer you a brat although I don’t want to watch what you might do with it. Do you plan on bring along your significant other named Bruce? I just need a head count so I have enough food.

  72. buhbay1c says: Apr 26, 2011 1:12 PM

    carlgerbschmidt says:
    Not sure where you’re getting this idea. From here it looks like you, Daz, and buhbay1c are the screaming monkeys jumping up and down on the tree limb.

    As much as you post on Vikings stories one would think they had won the last four Super Bowls. Why are you so jealous of Vikings fans? Other than the fact then our fan base isn’t looked upon as the the most obese and redneck group in the league.

  73. Deb says: Apr 26, 2011 3:04 PM

    @carlgerbschmidt …

    If you don’t know my comments were about your disrespect of Favre rather than McNabb, you really need to lay off the crack pipe. And if the Vikes do pick up McNabb, I imagine he’ll demonstrate he still knows how to run a two-minute drill.

    The Steelers have appeared in one-third of the AFC conference championship games played in the Super Bowl era–the most of any team. They are tied for the most Super Bowl appearances, and have the most Super Bowl victories. They’ve been to three Super Bowls in the last six years. So I’m content with the management of my own team, thanks.

    Good luck winning all those Lombaris over the next few years. It’s easier bragged about than accomplished.

  74. dazdillinger213 says: Apr 26, 2011 3:41 PM

    @Jimmy, I don’t care where it is. Just please let me meet you. Just once. I want to see your face. Your jokes are not even close to funny….ever. You can hate on the Vikings fan base all you want. It’s not about you talking about the Vikings stories and the pointless comments on every damn story. You talk shyt about where I’m from and everything about it till no end. Someone above mentioned you pay Minnesota’s taxes. If you live here and don’t like it then move. Also, if you do live here you are that much closer to me.. Do you know where the 22nd Ave Station is? We can meet here…

    And Carl, just shut the f up and mind your own business.

  75. JimmySmith says: Apr 26, 2011 5:28 PM

    @dazdillinger213

    I don’t even know where you are from but you seem a little unglued to me. Did you stop taking your meds recently? Might I suggest you simply ignore posts that you deem unworthy of your attention. That seems the simplest solution. Or better yet, stop caring about the Vikings since they never won and next year looks like the trend will continue.

    If that is in fact the root cause, why don’t you just become a Packer fan. That way, you get to enjoy next season and maybe even Superbowl Sunday. Just trying to help, your anger issues aren’t going away by doing nothing.

  76. dazdillinger213 says: Apr 26, 2011 6:15 PM

    @ Jimmy

    I am from Minneapolis. Not hard to figure that out. I have ignored your post for the last year or so (as long as I have been reading this site) but I am sick of your lack of respect for my city/state/team etc. It’s just so f’n stupid and pointless to waste your time posting trash just to try and be an internet troll.

    The Vikings will win a Super Bowl at some point. Until then I choose to stick by my team unlike some of you other bandwagon ass idiots. Born and raised that way. Every year isn’t a gonna be a Super Bowl win. Before last year you had one in the last 40 years so just shut up. What about the 20 something odd years STRAIGHT without a playoff appearance? Did you forget about that? You can thank David Akers for that trophy last year too and you know it. I can thank Brad Childress for being a dumbass and not controlling the sidelines for 12 men in the huddle to take our chances away the year before.

    If you are afraid, I will meet you right downtown MPLS in front of the Hennepin Co. Police station. Don’t sit here and talk a gang of shyt and when someone questions or challenges your posts don’t be a mark and puss out.

  77. carlgerbschmidt says: Apr 26, 2011 7:18 PM

    daz

    If you are afraid, I will meet you right downtown MPLS in front of the Hennepin Co. Police station.

    ___________

    You sure about that? I have a feeling you might have an outstanding warrant (or two)…

  78. JimmySmith says: Apr 26, 2011 8:01 PM

    I hope your menial job has health insurance benefits that cover mental illness because you sound like a pretty sick dude. I sense anger management issues that go well beyond rooting for the biggest choke franchise in NFL history.

    Why don’t you try and get laid, it relieves all sorts of pressure. If Bruce is always forcing you to be the catcher, ask him to switch positions just this once. Better yet, ask a girl out for a date just to see if it might work this time.

    Just the fact that you are declaring the Vikings will win the Superbowl someday proves to me that you are delusional beyond modern medicine. But don’t let that stop you from trying, I am not a doctor but there might be a medication that cures even that.

  79. dazdillinger213 says: Apr 26, 2011 8:22 PM

    @ Carl,

    You wanna find out, you can meet me there as well. Keep talking your shyt. I am giving offers here, don’t be a baby behind your computer….and if you’re not gonna go just shut up.

  80. JimmySmith says: Apr 26, 2011 9:05 PM

    Hey, maybe Carl can join us, are you willing to pick up the first round of drinks? We can discuss Great Vikings in Pro football history, that will take at least 3 minutes then move to to such weighty subjects as the Top 10 criminals, how many way have the Vikings discovered to lose a playoff game and then your personal favorite, was it BrINT’s fault last season or was the media just out to get him.

  81. dazdillinger213 says: Apr 26, 2011 9:42 PM

    @ Jimmy

    Another pointless post of gibberish…

    The most Snake bitten franchise of all time, no doubt. No arguments there. Yes, someday they will. Everyone will at some point. It will be that much sweeter when they finally do.

    Talking about my sex life. Laugh my ass off…
    I will roll up on you in a Range Rover in an Armani 3 piece and see who has the sex life or a menial job. You have no idea who I am.

    You won’t meet me because you are afraid of the truth who you really are. A f’n internet troll. That’s it. I have been reading your comments for a while now so I signed up just to speak to you…personally. I now know that you live here. You can at least oblige and meet me in person and see what I have to say. I told you, if you are afraid of harm I will do it right in front of the cop shop. What’s the issue? I will even pay for your gas.

  82. JimmySmith says: Apr 27, 2011 9:21 AM

    Oh great, you are going to wear a 3 pc Armani just to meet me? Can I assume you might even brush your 3 front teeth for this special ocassion too?

    Frankly, I could care less what you have to say, you’re a Viking fan, who needs to know anymore than that.

    The Packers have the Lombardi trophy on display in their trophy case, why don’t we meet there since the Vikings have yet to even purchase one themselves. Ever wonder why?

  83. thephantomstranger says: Apr 27, 2011 9:30 AM

    dazdillinger213 says:
    Apr 26, 2011 9:42 PM
    I will roll up on you in a Range Rover in an Armani 3 piece and see who has the sex life or a menial job. You have no idea who I am.
    __________________

    Is that you, Zygi?

  84. dazdillingeristhevoiceofreason says: Apr 27, 2011 11:06 AM

    @Daz
    You won’t meet me because you are afraid of the truth who you really are. A f’n internet troll. That’s it. I have been reading your comments for a while now so I signed up just to speak to you…personally. I now know that you live here.
    ________________

    Take it easy, Francis.

  85. tombradysponytail says: Apr 27, 2011 12:13 PM

    @dazdillinger
    The Vikings will win a Super Bowl at some point….Everyone will at some point.

    - I guess maybe, but winning the Super Bowl is hard, so it’s not impossible to believe that some teams may never do it. If the Vikings haven’t been able to do it in the last 50 years, not sure why the next 50 would be any different. Also, if they can’t win it with an all-time top 5 QB having a career year, not sure when they will…

    @Deb
    A lot went wrong with the Vikes in 2010, including by the NFL’s admission bad officiating in their first game with Green Bay, so don’t get c*cky.

    - There’s a reason why they give the coach a little red flag to stuff in his sock.

  86. thephantomstranger says: Apr 27, 2011 12:41 PM

    tombradysponytail says:
    - There’s a reason why they give the coach a little red flag to stuff in his sock.
    ___________________

    I can guess where you stuff your little red flag. Anyway, the Vikings would have won that game if the officials hadn’t incorrectly disallowed the Shiancoe TD.

  87. dazdillinger213 says: Apr 27, 2011 1:42 PM

    What the????

  88. dazdillinger213 says: Apr 27, 2011 1:43 PM

    @Jimmy, Enough keyboard chatter… You know the place, give me a time and date.

  89. tombradysponytail says: Apr 27, 2011 2:15 PM

    dazdillinger213 says:
    Apr 27, 2011 1:43 PM
    @Jimmy, Enough keyboard chatter… You know the place, give me a time and date.

    ____________

    2/13/2012. 11:59 pm. Top of Empire State Building.

  90. dazdillinger213 says: Apr 27, 2011 3:13 PM

    @Tom,

    Take a hike….unless you are from this area. Then you can come too.

  91. JimmySmith says: Apr 27, 2011 10:16 PM

    Going to wear your Armani suit and pull up in your RangeRover?

    Are you bring Bruce, should I bring my date too?

  92. tombradysponytail says: Apr 28, 2011 9:54 AM

    JimmySmith says:
    Apr 27, 2011 10:16 PM
    Going to wear your Armani suit and pull up in your RangeRover?

    Are you bring Bruce, should I bring my date too?

    ________

    Okay, so we’re all set. 2/13/2012. 11:59 pm. Top of Empire State Building. We’re all bringing dates. I just need to decide now if I’m driving my Ferrari 612 Scaglietti, my Mercedes-Benz McLaren GT, or my personal favoriate, my fully restored 1963 Porsche 356.

    See you guys there!

  93. dazdillinger213 says: Apr 28, 2011 2:37 PM

    @ Tom, I set a real location….

    @Jimmy, you keep bringing that up but that was only in response to you saying I have a “menial job” and “no dates” or however you put it…

    Get real you two, I will meet you in real life. No more internet BS. How about some real life shyt??? You are obviously nervous or apprehensive that I may have some ulterior motive here. Why don’t you find out and quit telling your PG-13 jokes.

    Right in front of the cop shop across from the dome, you give the time and date and I will be there. Afterwards (I know you aren’t going to oblige anyways) you can write all about it on PFT. This would tell the truth who “Jimmy Smith” is. You can bring a camera and take pictures too! Whatever you want. I’ve offered to pay for your gas, gave you a location. What’s the problem? Is the computer monitor less intimidating or what?

    This is not about the Vikings/Packers either. I want to meet you.

  94. thephantomstranger says: Apr 28, 2011 2:57 PM

    Okay, daz, Jimmy, tom, Carl, and I will meet in front of the “cop shop” across from the metrodump at 12:30 PM, May 6. Carl, you bring the beer. Any way we can get Deb here for this?

  95. tombradysponytail says: Apr 28, 2011 3:16 PM

    dazdillinger213 says:
    Apr 28, 2011 2:37 PM
    @ Tom, I set a real location….

    ______

    The Empire State building is a real location.

    Do people actually go to MN? I’ve been over it, but only at 35,000 feet. I didn’t know people landed there. Why would you do that? Doesn’t seem like there is much to do…

  96. dazdillinger213 says: Apr 28, 2011 5:56 PM

    I don’t care about anyone else. I want to speak to Jimmy.

    Tom, you are just an idiot. Yes, people come here, it’s the major economic hub for the upper midwest.

    Phantom, The “cop shop” you know where it is right? Are you being serious?? There is no way this idiot will show up though.

  97. deconjonesbitchslap says: Apr 29, 2011 1:18 AM

    are you kidding me vikings? you are losing your DT’s to 4 game suspensions. Pat williams might not even be back. you have a center that can’t play more than a quarter a game. (Pouncey would have been a fantastic pick up) an old offensive guard, and another guard that gets hurt all the time. a guy that doesn’t care at LT. No dependable corner for cover. No safeties. that’s right. NO SAFETY.

    you draft some guy most teams were not going to take until the late 2nd or early 3rd round? a guy who has major shoulder and elbow injuries?

    you have no line to protect this kid. he might be a good QB. who knows. but you couldn’t protect Favre last year, and look what happened…they were so bad on the offensive line, favre got hurt and missed games. how often did that happen in favres career? that shows how awful the vikings o line is.

    and, you just let the Lions arm themselves with almost ANOTHER SUH on their D Line! Fairley is a monster! he would have been the perfect draft pick to be next to Kevin Williams. bears and packers can thanks the vikings for the headache of planning for Suh and Fairley. the packers just protected their QB more. so did the Bears. why did they do that? because they knew the lions just got another monster.

    they will go 0-16. and then they got a real problem: do they keep Ponder, or draft Andrew Luck. guarantee they’ll eff that up too.

    stupid. 2nd year in a row they have effed up their draft because they panicked when a guy they wanted was taken off the board. you’re supposed to plan for all possibilites.

  98. deconjonesbitchslap says: Apr 29, 2011 1:23 AM

    oh and mcnabb. yeah. he’ll be GREAT with the vikings offensive line. who in their right mind would want to play QB for the vikings? they will get pulverized. see brett favre…

  99. rcunningham says: Apr 29, 2011 3:44 AM

    I find it hilariously ironic that Jimmy is telling someone else to go get laid.

    Jimmy, you use sports achievements to make yourself seem better than people. I don’t think you have any room to talk on people getting laid.

  100. gdeli says: Apr 29, 2011 11:26 AM

    the vikes gotta shake up that o-line and i think frazier knows what to do. they need pass d help have for years. when mcnabb throws on the run he doesn’t hit his target. Usually in the dirt if i remember correctly. But he can cnnon it down the field the next play. he’s a paradox and shanahan is an angry spaz. bad fit in dc.

  101. tombradysponytail says: Apr 29, 2011 12:40 PM

    @Daz
    Tom, you are just an idiot. Yes, people come here, it’s the major economic hub for the upper midwest.
    ________

    for the “major economic hub for the upper midwest” – LOL, there’s a reason why they call it flyover country. Let me know if you need me to explain it to you.

  102. thephantomstranger says: Apr 29, 2011 12:59 PM

    @deconjonesbitchslap

    Yeah, picking a guard at 12 would be a great idea. That would be the highest any guard has ever been picked.

    Ponder wouldn’t have lasted to the second round. Everybody with a brain knows that.

    Fairley is a 3-technique DT, just like Williams. They couldn’t play them both at the same time.

    They won’t go 0-16. They’ll be somewhere between 6-10 and 9-7 and they’ll already have their QB with a year under his belt and can focus on other positions next year rather than kicking the can down the block another year.

    McNabb ain’t playing here.

    Oh, and I almost forgot. You’re a moron.

  103. ArcticEdge says: Apr 29, 2011 1:47 PM

    We should really talk Favre in coming back to mentor Ponder. Ponder has more skills than Rodgers and Favre was able to make him into an OK QB.

  104. dazdillinger213 says: Apr 29, 2011 5:03 PM

    @Tom

    You don’t need to explain shyt to me. Do yourself a favor and look at how many major corporations reside here…. now mind your own business and where did Jimmy go??

  105. gdeli says: Apr 29, 2011 5:19 PM

    lets not try to “convince” any more older QBs to play here huh? uh

  106. bowtiefever says: Apr 30, 2011 3:00 PM

    hmm… what do you think? Nice glass of scotch or cognac? Nah, I think something fruity with an umbrella.

  107. laeaglefan says: Apr 30, 2011 8:32 PM

    One word for Andy Reid….DO NOT, under any circumstances, trade Kevin Kolb to the Redskins!

  108. eazyerock says: May 2, 2011 3:56 PM

    anyone defending McNabb should take a look at Rex Grossman’s stats last year.. and Grossman only played 3 games.. if Rex Grossman makes you look like a bum, you have issues. McNabb is an overrated
    POS that should thank Westbrook and T.O. for a career.

    That being said, with the pick of Christian Ponder, i dont see the Vikes picking him up.. im about 97% sure that the Cardinals are going to get him, and its just of matter of the lockout ending for the deal to get finalized..

    still though, the Vikings still suck.. just sayin..

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