Skip to content

Nelson denies NFL request for stay on ruling

NFL Lockout Football AP

Judge Susan Nelson is doing her best to clarify the confusing labor situation on draft eve.

Nelson, who lifted the NFL lockout on Monday, has denied the league’s request for a stay on her ruling.  The league wanted to keep the lockout in place and avoid starting the new league year until their appeal was heard, but Nelson was unmoved.

She wrote that the NFL “has not met its burden for a stay pending appeal, expedited or otherwise.”

What this means for Thursday’s draft remains to be seen, although the NFL seems likely to immediately to ask an appeals court for a stay of Nelson’s ruling.  We don’t expect the league to suddenly start signing players on Thursday, for instance.

What it means in the long run is that the NFL continues to lose in the courtroom and is almost out of legal maneuvers.

UPDATE: ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports Nelson said teams were under no obligation to sign free agents right away, although trades are “in question.”

Permalink 74 Comments Feed for comments Latest Stories in: Rumor Mill, Sprint Football Live - Rumors, Top Stories, Union
74 Responses to “Nelson denies NFL request for stay on ruling”
  1. myschwartzisbiggerthenyours says: Apr 27, 2011 9:47 PM

    The union is ruining the NFL.

  2. cappa662 says: Apr 27, 2011 9:48 PM

    Yay!!!!!!!!!! Now hopefully the 49ers can get Carson!!!!!!!!

  3. brutus9448 says: Apr 27, 2011 9:48 PM

    I thought they can still go to the apeals court.

  4. zoxitic says: Apr 27, 2011 9:49 PM

    Roger that Nelson.

  5. ckg0913 says: Apr 27, 2011 9:49 PM

    Is the Lockout over? Please let it be done.

  6. lovesportsandsurfing says: Apr 27, 2011 9:49 PM

    Judge Judy should replace Goodell as Commish,…as every day goes by Goodell looks worse and worse.

  7. fanofbrowns17 says: Apr 27, 2011 9:49 PM

    Ironic….a chic saves the football season.

  8. bf53 says: Apr 27, 2011 9:50 PM

    One step closer…….

  9. btowngetsdown says: Apr 27, 2011 9:51 PM

    Judge Nelson wants NFL football this year more than any other woman in America. God bless her.

  10. irjonny says: Apr 27, 2011 9:51 PM

    can we have trades? where are the lawyers to explain the situation?

  11. pjg1309 says: Apr 27, 2011 9:51 PM

    And the NFL will continue to lose in the court room as long as they are in Judge Nelsons OWN LITTLE WORLD

  12. freddyfelder says: Apr 27, 2011 9:51 PM

    First Team to make a move on a free agent will be BLACKED BALLED! NO Super BOWL! of some type of ish!

  13. cdjones34 says: Apr 27, 2011 9:52 PM

    This is complete BS they have to make rules and start the year whther they liek it or not.

  14. joey49er says: Apr 27, 2011 9:53 PM

    WHO GIVES A CRAP!! im watching college this year!!! where its about the game and not money!!!!players=greeeeeed

  15. petedutcher says: Apr 27, 2011 9:54 PM

    I don’t understand something. If the courts have ordered them to lift the lockout, and if the nfl does not do it, can that judge place a heavy fine on them?

  16. loytomaki says: Apr 27, 2011 9:54 PM

    Likelihood that someone tries to trade a player for picks? Probably zero chance but I will put my money on Al Davis going all crazy pants and trying it if anyone does.

  17. mantei says: Apr 27, 2011 9:54 PM

    They will be in contempt if they dont start the year immediately, correct?

  18. tremoluxman says: Apr 27, 2011 9:54 PM

    Hmm. The NFL has been up to bat about six times and whiffed every time.

    Jim Souhan wrote a column today in the Minneapolis StarTribune why he sides with the players in this mess instead of the owners. I agree 100% with him. It’s worth a read and access is free, no registration required.

  19. thelomasbrowns says: Apr 27, 2011 9:54 PM

    Good.

  20. baddegg says: Apr 27, 2011 9:55 PM

    Does this mean that teams can trade players for draft picks?

  21. drgreenstreak says: Apr 27, 2011 9:56 PM

    OK! Thank you, Judge.
    One more denied appeal from the Circuit and then the owners will bargain in good faith to settle this mess.
    Let’s get to work.

  22. massappeal12345 says: Apr 27, 2011 9:56 PM

    I’m surprised that she didn’t add in Viagra for the teachers of Wisconsin.

  23. xsammy34x says: Apr 27, 2011 9:57 PM

    Not really rooting for a side….just want football back…so this is kind of exciting….its something rather than all the nothing that has happend before it

  24. stealthjunk says: Apr 27, 2011 9:58 PM

    It’s not over yet. The NFL gets another shot — they can appeal Judge Nelson’s denial of the stay to the 8th Circuit and request that the 8th Circuit grant an emergency stay pending appeal. If they lose the motion for an emergency stay, then they’ll be in trouble until the full appeal is heard.

  25. pmars64 says: Apr 27, 2011 9:59 PM

    It’s good to see the owners continue to get their butt kicked and deservedly so for their greed, arrogance, and contempt for the players, the fans, and the legal system. NFL owners are currently in violation of federal law and really should be arrested for so blatantly refusing to stop the lock-out. Here’s hoping that they don’t win in the appellate court. Judge Nelson couldn’t have made it any more difficult for her rulings to be overturned, especially her initial ruling. Doesn’t mean it can’t happen, but it’s a longer shot than the owners probably thought.

  26. vikesfansteve says: Apr 27, 2011 10:00 PM

    Greedy SOB’s.

    Just like corporate America.

    China will take over the world economy in a few years anyway & their will no longer be football as we know it.

    Nobody will be able to afford to eat anymore, let alone watch these spoiled prick millionaires and even richer billionaire fat cat owners.

    Jerry Jones looks like a hairless cat that has a hot poker stuck in it’s ass.

  27. bender4700 says: Apr 27, 2011 10:00 PM

    The fans actually run the NFL.

    We put up with the drama that is “Millionaires with Problems”, so they keep acting like the huge ego lifestyle.

    As soon as the NFL fans organized, and began to shut down the NFL’s revenue stream, they’d sign that deal so fast.

  28. txchief says: Apr 27, 2011 10:00 PM

    The playas and their miraculously disappearing and reappearing union will always find a favorable venue in which to sue the current NFL. I hope the owners decide to fold the tents now and reformulate as a single payor corporation. It is the only way to avoid continual antitrust lawsuit tactics by the laborers. There will be all sorts of angst about loans and various guarantees for the stadiums by the owners and municipalities, but eventually the banks will be happy to renegotiate the loans for a more stable business entity. Of course, the current players will be free to start their own Brady Football League.

  29. birdobeamen says: Apr 27, 2011 10:01 PM

    I’d hit.

  30. smacklayer says: Apr 27, 2011 10:01 PM

    One step closer to the league shutting down this year. Guys, you forget that the owners are the ones with the checkbook. They will sooner lose a season than be forced in to any deal that is not sustainable.

    Say goodbye to pro football as we know it.

  31. footballfan292 says: Apr 27, 2011 10:01 PM

    Time for the NFL to retreat before they lose the entire war.

  32. freddyfelder says: Apr 27, 2011 10:02 PM

    They Would Let a Woman ruin Football! Men are Dumb!

  33. erstwhiledoc says: Apr 27, 2011 10:02 PM

    Having to go back to the same person to challenge their ruling? That’s ridiculous… Oh, sorry, I thought we were talking about the NFL discipline policy.

  34. kire562000 says: Apr 27, 2011 10:03 PM

    Players acting like good businessmen, driving a hard bargain at that. Wow, why does that offend so many?

    Owners are not the only good businessmen in this process.

  35. ratbastardshanahandjob says: Apr 27, 2011 10:04 PM

    Hope this ruleing doesnt cause the owners head puppet Adolf “Pinocchio” Goodell another sleepless night…..

  36. weswelkerspornstash says: Apr 27, 2011 10:05 PM

    They can’t cancel the draft can they??? Or will they have the draft then the players contest? Isn’t that what you wrote in the Jenkins article…

  37. footballisking says: Apr 27, 2011 10:06 PM

    I love this judge….she has my vote for president!!!!!!!!!

  38. toiletking says: Apr 27, 2011 10:07 PM

    “myschwartzisbiggerthenyours says: Apr 27, 2011 9:47 PM

    The union is ruining the NFL.”

    Is this clown actually sad that the lockout is over? If you hate football that much, stop paying attention.

  39. scytherius says: Apr 27, 2011 10:07 PM

    WTG owners. Ruin a great sport.

    At least I am loving watching the owners getting dragged over the coals. I’d pay real money to listen in on Jerry Jones’ reaction to all this.

  40. eagleswin says: Apr 27, 2011 10:08 PM

    Has the judge ever clarified the irreperable harm that the players were suffering which was part of her ruling to end the lockout?

    Anyway, this ruling was not unexpected given who was making the ruling but it did prolong things another 2 days. I do expect the 8th circuit to grant the stay though.

  41. freddyfelder says: Apr 27, 2011 10:10 PM

    Owners: What are we going to do now BOSS???

  42. nflfan101 says: Apr 27, 2011 10:10 PM

    Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!

    This whole mess has gotten to be ridiculous. Apparently, the NFL is illegal.

    I believe that it is past time for the owners to action. Everyone keeps saying that the owners need to get back to negotiation. But who would they negotiate with? D. Smith has said by his actions on multiple occasions that he will not negotiate.

    Since it appears that federal law is against the NFL, there are only two ways that lead to negotiations.

    The first is to voluntarily negotiate. How has that worked for the owners?

    The second is to put an end to all player employment rules, especially the minimum pay rule.

    I think that that would kill the NFL, but maybe not. I do believe that as soon as most players saw their pay drop, they would reform the union and begin negotiations in good faith.

  43. thehighhat says: Apr 27, 2011 10:12 PM

    I just wants me some Mini Camps and OTA’s!!!

  44. drgreenstreak says: Apr 27, 2011 10:12 PM

    I can’t believe some of you take the side of the owners even when a federal judge says the NFL has not met the burden of showing their case is likely to succeed on the merits presented.

    Don’t ya get it? To the court, this is an issue that far exceeds players wanting more money or owners being greedy. This is a multi-billion dollar industry that affects many thousands of people’s livelihoods. Many of these people are dependent upon the continued operation of this business on a day-to-day basis.
    The owners and players won’t be hurting. Working stiffs like me will suffer.
    Thank you, Judge Nelson!

  45. theblowtorchreview says: Apr 27, 2011 10:12 PM

    I’m not sure I would want to be an NFL player when this is all over. Not a good idea to piss off a bunch of millionaire/billionaire team owners.

    I can’t imagine the animosity that is building amongst the owners.

  46. puntpasskick says: Apr 27, 2011 10:15 PM

    The league year should’ve started already and the NFL is practically laughing at Nelson with no punishment handed down.

    Let business continue as usual so Kolb can get traded, please…

  47. rad312 says: Apr 27, 2011 10:15 PM

    People just do not get it. The Judge’s rulings are not helping matters so hopefully sanity will come from the 8th Circuit.

    Lifting the injunction without setting guidelines leave the NFL open for antitrust lawsuit with every decision. It is not as simple as going back to last season’s rules as the NFLPA* is laying in wait to challenge each and every thing…..free agency…..franchise tags…..

    Wake up folks!

    Whether you lean towards ownership or the players, I believe we all lean towards the GAME and the quality the GAME is not being helped with the litigation strategy by the NFLPA* and the pro-NFLPA* rulings by a clearly pro-union liberal court.

  48. 202folife says: Apr 27, 2011 10:19 PM

    myschwartzisbiggerthenyours says:
    Apr 27, 2011 9:47 PM
    The union is ruining the NFL.

    dude, the union decertified.

  49. moochzilla says: Apr 27, 2011 10:20 PM

    Another win for the players. This is getting SOOOOOOO boring and predictable.

    This is like watching the Lakers play your local girls JV HS squad.

    I almost feel sad for the collection of mediocre trust fund babies. Maybe they can hire Albert Haynesworth’s lawyers, at least their creative.

  50. ursushorribilis says: Apr 27, 2011 10:20 PM

    As expected, in a DEEP BLUE state an Obamamama activist judge sides with the Unions…..

    For those who truly love the NFL and don’t want the short term greed of agents and marginal players to destroy the league, don’t despair, the 8th Circuit has a RED STATE court which will reverse this left wing tainted ruling……

    If not, we always have the Supreme Court (for now) and then, there is CONGRESS…….

  51. christhefish says: Apr 27, 2011 10:21 PM

    Freedyfelder said; “First Team to make a move on a free agent will be BLACKED BALLED! NO Super BOWL! of some type of ish!”Freddy, it would take two teams to make a trade. Two, unscrupulous owners that only care about winning. Two owners that see a chance to get one over on the other owners and would do anything, and not care about anyone else just to win a Superbowl in their lifetimes.Now, I’ve been wracking my brains, and I can’t think of two, renegade, selfish owners in this league that would do that; can you?

  52. moochzilla says: Apr 27, 2011 10:23 PM

    Oh, and now watch the REAL businessmen among the trust fund set get to work, make trades and improve their teams.

    This is Darwinism. The bitter and sulking owners will die, the ones who see that the game is over will flourish.

    The game survives. Why? Because IT MAKES MONEY.

    For the players.

    For the owners.

    For the TV Networks.

    For the brands that advertise on their telecasts.

    And that, my friends, is capitalism.

  53. moochzilla says: Apr 27, 2011 10:24 PM

    “Having to go back to the same person to challenge their ruling? That’s ridiculous… Oh, sorry, I thought we were talking about the NFL discipline policy.”

    That, my friend, is an EXCELLENT observation. Great point!

  54. andyreidisfat says: Apr 27, 2011 10:25 PM

    Reading this board makes me sad to be an american sometimes. All the blind hate of unions no matter the facts of situation is really sad and pathetic.

    A court has ruled against the owners WHO ARE THE ONES SHUTTINGDOWN THE LEAGUE. And yet we still have people who think the players are the problem. the players were happy to sign a reup on the former deal. The owners decided not to and pushed for this situation and now they have been bitten in the ass. Now the league will probley end up with a worse deal than they had. All they had to do was keep the former deal and control the biggest money making game in America, but no, they wanted more. And now because of that greed they will probably end up with less.

    This situation in the courts has given me reason to hope our great country will move on from this crumby place we are in now. For once the filthy rich didn’t get what they wanted. For once the little guy ( now i know compared to us the players are rich, but almost none of them grew up wealthy, in fact most of them have worked really hard to get to where they are. Most with bad situations they rasied them selves from) wins. I only hope this is the first shot in this country to all the money elite power people that we arn’t going to take it anymore. Its high time in this country the wealthy realize they don’t need the whole pie. That the rest of us really do have the same power they do. Thank to the judge for doing her job in this case and not being another bought up politican who always sides with money.

    For those who make up their mind despite facts, go f your selves. I am so sick of this America where what you want to be out weights what really is. Go support the Koch brothers as try to take away everything from you.

    Sorry for the rant but it is so tiring reading these comments.

  55. Canyonero says: Apr 27, 2011 10:25 PM

    Judge Nelson wants the draft to happen, that’s obvious.

    In the long run, that’s the way to go. It shows that, ultimately, league owners and the players want to play and have a 2011 NFL season.

    Whatever shenanigans the lawyers hatch after that must contend with the fact that the owners drafted (what is it?) 256 players.

    Is Jerry Richardson so committed to the owners’ legal stance that he’ll abandon the 1st overall pick?

  56. moochzilla says: Apr 27, 2011 10:29 PM

    “One step closer to the league shutting down this year. Guys, you forget that the owners are the ones with the checkbook. They will sooner lose a season than be forced in to any deal that is not sustainable.”

    Fine, take two off. Take three off. Just be prepared to take the rest of your life off as a pro sports owner.

    Read up on the CBA and the USFL. All they needed was an opening like what you are praying for.

    Smart people LOVE when people like you operate on emotion. Because it gives smart business people the opening they need to make money.

  57. moochzilla says: Apr 27, 2011 10:30 PM

    “I’m not sure I would want to be an NFL player when this is all over. Not a good idea to piss off a bunch of millionaire/billionaire team owners.

    I can’t imagine the animosity that is building amongst the owners.”

    Like what they’re doing to poor Von Miller? Tripping over themselves to make him a millionaire?

    You are delusional.

  58. Deb says: Apr 27, 2011 10:31 PM

    btowngetsdown says:

    Judge Nelson wants NFL football this year more than any other woman in America. God bless her.
    ——–
    I don’t know that she wants a 2011 season more than any woman in America ;) But you’re right … God bless her!

    @myschwartz …

    The owners could have prevented all of this by negotiating in good faith or accepting the players’ proposal months ago. They were the ones demanding that extra billion, playing fast and loose with the facts, and planning their lockout strategy for two years. It’s all backfired on them now–as rampant greed usually does in the end–and it’s time for them to man up and do what’s necessary to reach a new agreement before this goes any further or costs them any more.

  59. dryheaveone says: Apr 27, 2011 10:32 PM

    hey “rad312″……you gotta quit believing the line of crap Goodell is spewing

  60. pjk966 says: Apr 27, 2011 10:34 PM

    Those of you that thinks this is good have no idea of the consequences if the players win. This will give you football this year but will end up changing the game forever and not for the best.

  61. joey49er says: Apr 27, 2011 10:37 PM

    RAD312 finally someone in here with a brain!!!u made my night i can sleep now!!!

  62. thefiesty1 says: Apr 27, 2011 10:38 PM

    She’s in bed with the players. The league has no option but to go to another court. Obstinate Obama appointee. She’s obviously pro union even though the players are no longer unionized. They decertified and quit. Move on, her 15 minutes of fame is over.

  63. moochzilla says: Apr 27, 2011 10:42 PM

    Can one of you cavemen define for me what you think an “activist judge” is?

    Hint: It doesn’t describe “a judge who disagrees with you”.

  64. dontcallmepete says: Apr 27, 2011 10:43 PM

    When the owners lost in the apparel case was the Supreme Court liberal too? Maybe the NFL loses so often because they’re wrong. One of their own owners sued the rest of them and won. If you don’t like the game then stop watching. There’s other football. Go ahead leave and see how many come back after you. Anybody who doesn’t want the lockout lifted is insane.

  65. snnyjcbs says: Apr 27, 2011 10:49 PM

    Just as expected, I was just hoping it would have taken her longer to rule against the NFL to chew up some more time.

    The NFL will now get the Stay from the only place they were going to receive it in the first place with the Appeals Court. All the players and the Union that has never went away getting their hopes up only to be kicked in the teeth by the Appeals Court, love it.

  66. narutofan10 says: Apr 27, 2011 10:57 PM

    dude get over yourself the way the NFL is acting the republicans aren’t gonna cut them any slack either they have done nothing but basically belittle the judges ruling and are acting like sore @ss losers watch as they lose their appeal because of how childish they have been acting and quit acting like this ruling does a lot of damage the players are okay with the basic rules and draft they just want the owners to at least share the wealth a little more which is not gonna effect the game unless again the owners want to continue to act all mopey about it and make it seem like that is what is gonna happen…so in closing remember that just because the appellate court is mostly republican the owners behavior is condemning them and the next will not be granted and they will lose the appeal

  67. giablommi says: Apr 27, 2011 11:00 PM

    “Is the Lockout over? Please let it be done.”
    ^^^^^
    Not if the owners have their way. They continue to do anything and the everything to prevent the 2011 season from being played. While I have no love for D Smith whatsoever, the players used what little leverage they’ve had with the goal of playing games this year. Anyone who claims that they are “on the side of the fans” or only want there to be a season cannot logistically side with the owners.

    Eventually, the pro-ownership stooges on this site may figure this out.

  68. 6thsense79 says: Apr 27, 2011 11:02 PM

    joey49er says:
    Apr 27, 2011 9:53 PM
    WHO GIVES A CRAP!! im watching college this year!!! where its about the game and not money!!!!players=greeeeeed
    =======================
    Right….College football is not about greed….Is that why instead of following their rules and suspending those Ohio state football players as their rules stipulated before the bowl game the NCAA scheduled the suspension to next season?

    Is that why college coaches jump from team to team for multi million dollar contracts?

    Is that why major college football still doesn’t have a playoff because a handfull of major teams are too scared they may have to share the multi millions they reap from the current system? I mean come on you have bowls like the Tostito Bowl…..I haven’t even gotten into all the under the table illegal deals involving the schools and athletes.

    Without a doubt major college athletics is the most dirtiest sport endeavor in the United States….But your pure college football….

  69. childressrulz says: Apr 27, 2011 11:07 PM

    smacklayer says: Apr 27, 2011 10:01 PM

    One step closer to the league shutting down this year. Guys, you forget that the owners are the ones with the checkbook. They will sooner lose a season than be forced in to any deal that is not sustainable.

    Say goodbye to pro football as we know it.
    ______________________________
    The owners called down the thunder and the players association delivered. People who think the owners won’t play this season are crazy. Even the owners admitted to making a profit. Rich people don’t get rich by turning down profits. I guarantee they play this season if the courts uphold the wise decision from Judge Nelson.

  70. primetime2 says: Apr 27, 2011 11:22 PM

    The owners are in a lose lose. If they dont start the year they are in trouble with the courts. If they do start the year the NFLPA will sue them with anit trust lawsuits.

  71. rkt4mayor says: Apr 27, 2011 11:29 PM

    Good for Judge Nelson!

    Now, let’s just hope that the 8th circuit follows suit so we can have a 2011 season!

    The owner butt boys in here won’t like it, but short of giving the owners everything, they rarely like anything.

  72. primetime2 says: Apr 27, 2011 11:42 PM

    Those of you that thinks this is good have no idea of the consequences if the players win. This will give you football this year but will end up changing the game forever and not for the best.

    ——————————–
    Best post I have ever seen on here. You see what is about to happen

  73. obxfannings says: Apr 28, 2011 12:06 AM

    Why don’t you pro-owner Einsteins enlighten me? If the “Liberal” “Pro Union” “Obama-Appointed” Judge Nelson ruled for the players and the owners seek relief from their ludicrous position by appealing to a Conservative Appellate Court in St. Louis, how is their position in any way Conservative? You are asking the Judges in St. Louis to overturn their colleague’s opinion by embracing restrictions on a free market economy. Please let Free Market Capitalism reign!! no draft, no restricted free agents, no franchise tags – all the things this idiot Goodell is crying about in his Op-ed piece in the WSJ. Jerry and his cronies brought the noise and they were met with righteous JUSTICE. Time to fold tents and pray you can go back to what you had – A very profitable enterprise. The NFL ownership’s degree of arrogance and greed is simply appalling.

  74. pigeonpea says: Apr 28, 2011 1:30 AM

    pjk966 says:
    Those of you that thinks this is good have no idea of the consequences if the players win. This will give you football this year but will end up changing the game forever and not for the best.

    Exactly. I am all for football this season, but not at the expense of everything that makes it popular, competitive and exciting to watch. If the players get their way, the sport will suck worse than hockey.

Leave a Reply

You must be logged in to leave a comment. Not a member? Register now!