If a judge rules, who are these owners to decide not to obey it ?? We’re Billionaire’s, above the law is their thinking. Jail them if they do not act accordingly.

Life is based on rules, regardless of your bank account size.

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Show me where the owners can disband their union, file a lawsuit, get their way, then reform the union afterwards?

Oh, wait, you can’t. The owners need to screw the players. Since there’s no CBA, and the players aren’t in a union, the NFL and owners can dictate the rules now.

Start with “Free agency starts the day before the first preseason game”

Then implement a rookie salary scale

Then add more fun stuff…

Enjoy your spoils boys. /

5. Vanity (plastic surgery…how Hollywood)
4. Frugality (skimps on practice facility that collapses and maims employees)
3. Narcissism (camera hog, sidelines during games, etc.)
2. Arrogance (“America’s Team”? not in my town, pal)
1. Bully (Mr. knuckle banger)

I could add “lousy Manager” due to the Super Bowl fiasco, but hey, why pile on?

Either those who favor the owners are unemployed bums or they’re paid by the owners to comment on these boards.

Just the facts ma’am…
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Or the people commenting during the day (such as myself) own their own companies/or and work out of offices in their homes, enabling them to visit PFT periodically during the day without having to answer to anyone.

In the absence of a CBA, the league can set its own time table for doing business.

If the players believe that using a slower schedule than was used during the 2010 season is an anti-trust violation, then they can pursue that claim, but it is a far more difficult case that the one on which judge Nelson has already rules in their favor.

Life is based on rules, regardless of your bank account size.

Well….. actually we just want open for a few days to have our draft, but thats it.

So incredibly stupid
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The draft is the final act stipulated by the prior CBA. The draft is exempted from the antitrust lawsuit because of that. Therefore, it does make sense.

There is nothing she can do to force them to violate antitrust so i expect the NFL to say they are reviewing the procedures they will have to operate under until they get their stay from the 8th circuit. It’s quite reasonable as there are some important mechanisms entailed in “business as usual” that they will not be allowed to use.

Got a feeling Jerry and The Headcases aren’t going to comply with a court order. They should place a call to Governor Walker regarding how that worked out for him.
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knock, knock, knock. U.S. Marshalls here to meet with Mr. Jones. You might want to pack a toothbrush and some deodorant.

I would bet that papers asking the Appeals Court to Stay her ruling have already been filed with the Court. The Court will grant a Stay of her Ruling.

The Lockout has been lifted and Teams Doors are open should players choose to drop in. Agents are free to contact Teams regarding their Free Agents, if the Teams want to talk to them that is a whole different story.

Do you know how many times I have lost in lower Court and even degraded by the Judge only to have the Higher Court over turn the Judges decision stating that the Judge had interpreted the Law wrong and this non Lawyer had interpreted it right.

Lower Court Rulings are like paper in the wind, you see them one minute and the next they are gone. I am sure the NFL will read your article and decide to follow your advice lol

Mike….I don’t understand why YOU are supporting this…….didn’t YOU also fear the loss of the NFL as we know it?

No cap, no floor, no RFA, No UFA……. No union = no “protection” = no rules……congrats JJ!!

Buh-bye baby buh-bye.

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Basically, the league should be conducting business as usual. And if anything unusual happens, it will be evidence that the league is defying Judge Nelson’s order.”

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I can see why this would cause a crazy amount of confusion for the league and teams. Basically they have to open for business as usual and anything they do that qualifies as ‘unusual’ will put them in contempt of court.

But what qualifies as ‘unusual’ exactly? The anti-trust lawsuit hanging over the NFL means that much of what teams and the league consider to be ‘business as usual’, including the draft, francise tags, the salary cap etc are being challenged as illegal. So how can the teams be expected to make decisions based on those mechanisms when they have no idea if these mechanisms are even valid? If a team trades a pick in this years draft for a pick in next years draft then they may never get to use it if the draft is declared illegal. But if teams *don’t* do this at all then they are not conducting ‘business as usual’ and are in contempt of court.

So… what are they supposed to do?

You say collusion, I say a smart decision by the 32 business owners in the NFL.

While the league, therefore teams, must reopen, a very real argument can be made for not entering into new contracts immediately, in the best interest of each individual team, not out of collusion. Given the uncertain legal landscape, teams can be justified for abstaining pending further information.

Judge Nelson has already contradicted court findings in the 2nd Circuit (NBA vs. Williams) and the Supreme Court (Brown vs. Pro Football, Inc.). The 8th Circuit will have to reconcile her rulings with established case law.

Imagine the nerve, enforcing the law, as opposed to ruling based on your opinion! Where do they come off? Here’s a little experiment for you, head way down south to Mexico, commit a minor crime, and let us all know how THEIR judicial system worked out for you. You’re a Browns fan, so I’m guessing you live in or near Cleveland, so the accommodations and the food in Mexican prisons won’t be all that different from what you’re used to. And if you’re from East Cleveland, it will be an upgrade.

Yes the owners opted out of the CBA because that was an option for BOTH parties when they collectively bargained it a few years ago. It makes sense that the owners (who had gotten a bad deal) exorcised their right to opt out.

When players feel like they deserve a better deal, they opt out of their contracts all the time if it’s written in their contract! It’s their perogative to do so! Now that the owners try to do the same when they’ve gotten screwed, the union decertifies and stops negotiating and is now sueing the NFL for anything and everything.

If one of the owners farts in a meeting room, they’ll probably sue him for creating an uncomfortable and unsanitary working enviornment and they’ll take it to another liberal judge who would rule in favor of the players again!

But I guess that’s what happens when you hire a lawyer to brainwash all the players that he’s got their best interest and the games best interest at heart… you get a bunch of attorney’s making millions of dollars while the fans have to watch the destruction of their favorite sport.

This whole trial process has been a complete farce from start to finish. Nelson has done nothing but show her bias for the players in practically her every word and deed. She might even be technically right about much or all of what she says, but the way she’s done it has essentially handed many different tidbits of evidence of bias over to the eighth-circus. In the end, this whole thing is going to be a complete circus, and it’s already a farce, which isn’t going to be fun for anybody.

Either those who favor the owners are unemployed bums or they’re paid by the owners to comment on these boards.

Just the facts ma’am…

Um… actually it’s called a cell phone with internet access. Maybe the ones who support the owners actually work and can afford phones with internet access, and the ones who support the players may need to wait until they get home from their 9-5 jobs to go on the internet…

Not saying this theory is absolute, but your argument is lame at best…