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Pats can now conduct a Mallett-Dalton-Kaepernick auction

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With four quarterbacks going in the first 12 picks and none in the next 20, three big names remain at the position.

And the team that holds that selection, the New England Patriots, has 18 hours to field offers for the ability to come up and take one of them — Ryan Mallett, Andy Dalton, or Colin Kaepernick.

Teams that could be considering a quarterback in round two include the Bills (No. 34), the Bengals (No. 35), the Cardinals (No. 38), the Redskins (No. 41), the 49ers (No. 45), the Raiders (No. 48), the Redskins again (No. 49), and the Seahawks (No. 57).

Regardless of what happens, the Pats have plenty of time to call each of those teams to see which of them would be inclined to make a move, and then to leverage any interest into an all-out auction.

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55 Responses to “Pats can now conduct a Mallett-Dalton-Kaepernick auction”
  1. heinzyrugby says: Apr 29, 2011 12:02 AM

    Belichick…you crafty bastard.

  2. Canyonero says: Apr 29, 2011 12:03 AM

    At some point, the New England Patriots are going to have so many draft picks saved up, they’ll just become a bank.

  3. baseballstars says: Apr 29, 2011 12:03 AM

    Dalton is the best. Mallet looked horrible on the biggest stage, and definitely has character concerns. Kaepernick is coachable, but that’s no guarantee for success. He ran a gimmick offense, which won’t benefit him in the pros. Dalton has accuracy, which is way more important than having a big arm (see: JaMarcus Russell).

  4. jaggedmark says: Apr 29, 2011 12:03 AM

    Teams have to stop dealing with the Patriots

    They’re like a credit card company. U get a little something now, but they end up with everything.

    Stop trading with them already!!!!!!

  5. merchie89 says: Apr 29, 2011 12:04 AM

    How does anyone say this always trade down is a smart move?

    The pats are the 5th best team in the league. Eventually you need to use these picks

  6. Michael says: Apr 29, 2011 12:05 AM

    With the 32nd pick, couldn’t they have waited to pick, and spent the whole night trying to trade? And if no trade materialized, then turn it in right before NE picks at 33. Instead, NE can try all night to trade the pick, which means, in essence, that the 33rd pick might have more value than the 32nd pick. I’m not saying, I’m just saying…

    Go ahead and post on it, taking credit for the idea yourself…

  7. mikebrownstepdown says: Apr 29, 2011 12:07 AM

    Since Jay Gruden has a hard on for Dalton I can easily see my bengals selecting him with the 35th pick.. Thanks alot Minnesota I was hoping to see ponder selected 35th, although I personally think Tyrod Taylor would be a nice pick up..

  8. mataug says: Apr 29, 2011 12:07 AM

    The Pats are on schedule to end up with 31 picks in the first round one year. The other pick in the draft will be held by the Colts because Polian is difficult to trade with.

  9. seanmmartin says: Apr 29, 2011 12:07 AM

    Michael,

    Said the same exact thing.

    If the Packers didn’t pick, would NE have been placed on the clock?

  10. toonsterwu says: Apr 29, 2011 12:07 AM

    michael – i could be wrong, but i believe the nfl has a rule in place where all the first round picks have to happen today. you can’t sit on it. i could be wrong, but i believe that to be the case. is it fair? that’s a different question.

  11. brasho says: Apr 29, 2011 12:10 AM

    baseballstars says:
    Apr 29, 2011 12:03 AM
    Dalton is the best. Mallet looked horrible on the biggest stage, and definitely has character concerns. Kaepernick is coachable, but that’s no guarantee for success. He ran a gimmick offense, which won’t benefit him in the pros. Dalton has accuracy, which is way more important than having a big arm (see: JaMarcus Russell).

    ++++++++++++++++

    Kaepernick ran the Pistol… Dalton ran the spread. Both are gimmicky offenses. Dalton is average sized, with an average arm, and average mobility. He was a caretaker for the NCAA’s #1 defense. Kaepernick runs like the wind and has the best arm in the draft, not to mention he’s 6’5 and WAS the Nevada offense. Besides that, his Wonderlic of 37 was higher than Dalton’s as well AND he looked way better at the Senior Bowl than Dalton… and Ponder and Locker. Any person and team would be a moron to think Dalton would be a better choice than Kaepernick. Kaepernick is Randall Cunningham 2.0 while Andy Dalton is Brian Griese 1.1.

  12. austskate says: Apr 29, 2011 12:11 AM

    With the entire 2nd round in the 2020 NFL draft, the New England Patriots select…..

  13. mataug says: Apr 29, 2011 12:12 AM

    Hasselback, Bulger & Kolb can spoil that Pats party pretty easily.

  14. merchie89 says: Apr 29, 2011 12:14 AM

    DL, LB, OL, (solder probably aint the LT they need, at least in 2011), RB (the law firm could use some help), WR

    ALL DECENT TO BIG PATS NEEDS

    but we can just pick one every year, and then OH NO by the time we fill all the needs Brady will be done.

    PFT please keep track of this stat for me: # of pats draft day trades to # of playoff victories before Brady retires

  15. habsman says: Apr 29, 2011 12:14 AM

    Well they have 3 picks in this round, and now they have two first round picks next year.

    It is very possible they trade # 33 for another first next year and still end up with two or possibly three number 2′s tomorrow.

    At this rate, they should have all 32 first round picks in the year 2020.

  16. sf987 says: Apr 29, 2011 12:16 AM

    I’d say Kaepernick has by far the most upside: big, athletic, and a cannon. I could see a team without a pressing QB need drafting him just to groom him for down the road/trade. Hopefully he won’t just be a bigger Pat White though

  17. contraryguy says: Apr 29, 2011 12:16 AM

    Montgomery Burns isn’t gonna trade with the Pats… he’ll pick 35th and be happy with what he gets. Doesn’t mean anyone else will be happy about it, but fortunately there are neough options here. Dalton, Kapper, they’re both good gamers with enough line protection, and the Bengals have it. Pick a guy, and move on.

  18. madsqgrdn says: Apr 29, 2011 12:17 AM

    Ingram would have been scary on the pats. I’m ecstatic they traded the pick! A project olineman.congrats..next year after the jets send you home again you can have the entire draft;)

    No salary cap baby let’s load up

  19. Patskrieg dot com says: Apr 29, 2011 12:21 AM

    The Pats are already looking at 2 first rounders in 2012. Unless this the pick offered for 33 projects to be something magnificent it’s time to actually draft somebody.

  20. Michael says: Apr 29, 2011 12:27 AM

    I think mine was a fair question, and I am curious about it. If there is a rule against it, I’d just like to know about it. If there is, I am against it, because it gives the 33rd pick leverage that the 32nd pick doesn’t have.

    I don’t understand all the thumbs down, there is gamesmanship in aspect of the NFL. Maybe they didn’t understand my post. Whatever.

  21. baseballstars says: Apr 29, 2011 12:33 AM

    lol @ the commenter who used the Wonderlic to describe how Prospect A is better than Prospect B. Please back up your stance with a correlation between the Wonderlic and quarterback performance in the NFL, or you are indeed the stupid one.

  22. autumnwind999 says: Apr 29, 2011 12:35 AM

    I don’t get everyone getting bent out out shape over the Pats trade. It’s likely to be a very low 1st round pick next year and the Saints got two absolute steals in Jordan and Ingram. Those two, along with Amakamura, were the biggest steals so far.

    Not to mention the fact that the Raiders CLEARLY got the best of them on that Seymour trade. Seymour with a two-year head start or Nate Solder? You make the call. Nothing against Solder per se, just that I’ll take the bona fide All Pro DT over a rookie who’s got maybe a 50% chance of panning out at all any day of the week (and twice on Sundays).

    I like the Pats approach, but it doesn’t mean some of these deals don’t help both teams or that others, like the Raiders with the Seymour trade (not to mention the less-heralded Derrick Burgess and Doug Gabriel trades in recent years), don’t get the better of them.

  23. calhounlambeau says: Apr 29, 2011 12:46 AM

    All these picks traded, saved….and what do the Patriots have to show for it over the last few years? Still the same bunch of largely average (outside of a handful, obviously), SUPERBLY coached players they’ve been plugging in since Billy arrived. It seems as though they always make it harder on themselves than they need to…anyone else agree?

  24. madsqgrdn says: Apr 29, 2011 12:53 AM

    Belichek…playoff games won without scott pioli …zero

  25. lovesportsandsurfing says: Apr 29, 2011 1:05 AM

    That crafty Belicheck, all those great draft moves have won him what lately?…nice record last year, but what will be remembered is the Jets comingto Foxboro and humiliating him,..as did the Giants destroying an undefeated season,..maybe if Bill focussed more on game day stategy instead of compiling picks he would be doing better on the field.

  26. baboushka says: Apr 29, 2011 1:15 AM

    The real QB sleeper (potential Tom Brady) in this draft is the Mckelroy kid from Alabama IMO. I saw him on ESPN and he is impressive. Extremely intelligent. Big, athletic and underutilized in college. If there is a “Where di this guy come from” future hall of famer in this draft. I’d bet money on him in the 3-5 rounds.

  27. Todd Jones says: Apr 29, 2011 2:08 AM

    How do teams not realize by now that, if the Patriots agree to a trade with you, it means you’re getting screwed?

  28. seanx40 says: Apr 29, 2011 2:19 AM

    I bet the Redskins offer those 2 second round picks tomorrow. And then the Patriots actually start to use them. Hopefully on WR’s and LB’s.

  29. stanklepoot says: Apr 29, 2011 2:22 AM

    merchie89 says: Apr 29, 2011 12:14 AM

    DL, LB, OL, (solder probably aint the LT they need, at least in 2011), RB (the law firm could use some help), WR

    ALL DECENT TO BIG PATS NEEDS

    but we can just pick one every year, and then OH NO by the time we fill all the needs Brady will be done.

    PFT please keep track of this stat for me: # of pats draft day trades to # of playoff victories before Brady retires
    ________________________
    I understand what you’re getting at, but there are two major points you need to keep in mind.

    1. While there are some really good people in this draft, it’s not nearly as loaded with talent as some other drafts.

    2. The Pats don’t have as many open spots on their roster as some other teams, and they have a lot of young players that were drafted highly. Seven of them drafted in the 2nd round the past two years I believe. Simply using all those picks this year probably wouldn’t give them as much bang for their buck, and would leave them trying to figure out which players to keep and which players other teams could poach when they had to cut them to get their roster size down.

  30. magicman407 says: Apr 29, 2011 2:58 AM

    michael- thats a good question and i believe technically the last pick in round 1 does have that option of holding their pick into the second day. I think this happened maybe last year or atleast one of the commentators did mention the ability of that happening. For some reason I dont think any team actually took advantage of that though.

  31. gooftroopers says: Apr 29, 2011 3:20 AM

    @Michael It’s because the difference between pick #32 and #33 is the difference between round #1 and round #2. Why would the packers at #32 have an extended period of time to sit on their pick when everyone else in the first round had a set matter of minutes. Makes no sense.

  32. MTArider says: Apr 29, 2011 3:54 AM

    Redskins will trade both of their picks in the 40′s to take Mallett.

  33. frankiefiveangels says: Apr 29, 2011 5:52 AM

    I’m a Pats fan but I’m so tired of this. Trading for future picks has become a cliche for Belichick. I’m no scout but I feel Ingram or Heyward would have been great picks for them, but they had to trade out because it’s “The Patriot Way”. They are getting like an old man who saves his money forever then dies with a trunk of cash sitting under his bed. What good are these picks if you NEVER use them? Unfortunately the haters are right when they say this strategy seems smart until you realize they have not won a single playoff game since 2007.

  34. pondbridge says: Apr 29, 2011 6:27 AM

    Bills are in command at 34, NOT the Pats at 33. They know that BB won’t take a QB at 33 and they have their choice. But I’ll bet that Al Davis will call up his old trading partner to ensure that the Raiders gets Kaepernick at 33.

  35. pondbridge says: Apr 29, 2011 6:28 AM

    Announcement: The Patriots have accumulated every pick in the 2015 draft. No one else needs to show up.

  36. ruggerlad says: Apr 29, 2011 6:53 AM

    STOP TRADING WITH THE PATS YOU IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  37. skoobyfl says: Apr 29, 2011 7:28 AM

    Why would anyone expect the Pats to take a QB in the 2nd round ?? If anything, they’ll call the Bills to see if they can move up to take someone the Bills wouldn’t have wanted anyways.

  38. grpatriot says: Apr 29, 2011 7:29 AM

    So next year two late 1st rounders that BB won’t package to move up! I wonder if the wage scale was in place if, he would have traded up for a pass rusher?

  39. boblavoie says: Apr 29, 2011 7:52 AM

    Here is the difference between the Patriots (BB) and other teams:

    Most other teams look to the Patriots and their staff for guidance in their draft picks and then knows not what to do with them when they get who they believe the Pats want.

    BB is a teacher and innovator. He will take smart athletic players in the second and third round and TEACH them how to play more than one position. This way he also has depth at all positions.

    To bad you can’t draft coaches.

  40. richm2256 says: Apr 29, 2011 8:01 AM

    It’s not whether the Pat’s would take a QB, morons, it’s that another team could grab the one YOU want before you get to him. There are six other possible teams with QB needs after Buffalo, the Pat’s either trade you the pick so you can draft him, or they draft the guy you want and trade him to you.

  41. enders9 says: Apr 29, 2011 8:02 AM

    Michael says: Apr 29, 2011 12:05 AM

    With the 32nd pick, couldn’t they have waited to pick, and spent the whole night trying to trade? And if no trade materialized, then turn it in right before NE picks at 33. Instead, NE can try all night to trade the pick, which means, in essence, that the 33rd pick might have more value than the 32nd pick. I’m not saying, I’m just saying…

    Go ahead and post on it, taking credit for the idea yourself…

    ———————————–

    If this could happen (I’m pretty sure it can’t), then NE would still be the ones on the clock right now, so instead of having the 33rd pick to deal, they now have the 32nd. All they have to do is get to the podium before the Packers do, and the 32nd pick is theirs. And vice versa, whoever the Packers are trying to trade with would know that they aren’t guaranteed the 32nd pick.

  42. hendawg21 says: Apr 29, 2011 8:32 AM

    Well as with each new football year that are new QB stars heading next years is Andrew Luck…so I still say McNabb might be the best option at this point and Beck is still under contract and they seem to like him. So I wouldn’t give up anything to move up to get any of the remaining QB’s now if one drops to you at 41 or 49 then maybe you take them…personally i’d use those two second round picks on an O-lineman and more defensive help.

  43. 1bigtex says: Apr 29, 2011 8:45 AM

    @baboushka
    Greg McElroy as the next Tom Brady??? Really? Yes, he is quite intelligent, but “big and athletic”? He’s less than 6’2″ and he is not going to make very many plays with his feet. When you throw in the fact that he can’t throw the ball hard enough to bruise a baby’s butt, not sure that he really qualifies as a “future hall of famer”.

  44. brutus9448 says: Apr 29, 2011 9:00 AM

    if the pats call people the lose leverage. They need to let people call them and beg for the pick.
    If I was gonna bet I’d say the pats make the pick themselves

  45. brutus9448 says: Apr 29, 2011 9:02 AM

    I don’t the nate solder pick was that great. The pats need a lot picks because many of their picks don’t pan out.
    And BTW they can only have 53 on their team. So if they pick someone they have to cut someone else that might be pretty good

  46. joetoronto says: Apr 29, 2011 9:12 AM

    ruggerlad says: Apr 29, 2011 6:53 AM

    STOP TRADING WITH THE PATS YOU IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ********************************************************
    To say the Raiders haven’t been ripped of by the Pats would be an understatement and a compliment to the Pats.

    They’ve done just fine, thank you.

  47. miamiron says: Apr 29, 2011 9:16 AM

    I could see the Pats trading the 33rd pick for a
    #1 pick next season giving New England
    3 number 1 picks next season or enough ammo
    to move up and grab Andrew Luck to groom behind
    Brady…Then trade Brady for another 2 first rounders

  48. rabidbillsfan says: Apr 29, 2011 9:48 AM

    Actually that isn’t a very true statement. The pats will not draft a QB, and denver probaly won’t either. One of the Bills top QB’s is already off the board (Ponder). So the first team to take a QB, IMO, is the Bengals. That would drive down the value of NE pick. I still see the Pats trading out of that pick, but it will be a very very desperate team, and not some mad dash like you expect. Their first pick was solid in Solder, I thought he should have been taken before Tyron, his flaws are coachable. I actually see a team trading up for Bowers or one of the other pass rushers before a QB, because the next 2 teams seem likely to snatch them up. I actually see the Bills trading back, and then trying to pick up an additional 2nd round pick to pick up Sherrod, and a slipping QB.

  49. blacktoothgrinn says: Apr 29, 2011 9:49 AM

    If the phone rings and Belichek is on the other line just hang up, he’s trying to screw you

  50. danallen2 says: Apr 29, 2011 9:50 AM

    About the Seymour trade, people seem not to realize that Seymour was a free agent the next year, and the Patriots paid more for their team last year as any in the league as they redid Wilfork and Brady to the tune of $32 million + a season for 2 players alone, with millions up front as signing bonuses. They also offered Mankins $8 million a year, signed Bodden for $4.5 million. Seymour got $14 million from the Raiders. There’s no way the Patriots would have kept Seymour after that season.

    So they traded one year of Seymour for 10 years of All-Pro mammoth LT.

  51. danallen2 says: Apr 29, 2011 9:55 AM

    Those who are bagging on the Patriots’ drafting and the playoff results seem not to realize that they totally overhauled their defense with young players. The Patriots miss on draft picks a lot? Look at their defense, they are very young, but fast, athletic, they are coming on.

    McCourty, Chung, Meriweather, Mayo, Cunningham, Spikes, a bunch of talented DT types, and only Wilfork, Warren and Bodden are in the middle-to-end of their careers. They are VERY YOUNG.

    The key to trading down is this: if you keep doing it year-after-year, that means you are ALWAYS adding an extra 2nd round pick. That’s an extra high pick EVERY year. If he pans out only 66% of the time, that means after 10 years that you have 6 more GOOD players on your team taken in the 2nd than anyone else that doesn’t use this strategy.

    I also laugh at people saying the Patriots should have taken Wilkerson or Ingram as though Belichick hadn’t scouted them already.

  52. bigdaddy44 says: Apr 29, 2011 10:31 AM

    Don’t be surprised if BB trades down twice from this pick. The first trade with either Cincinnati or Arizona to get Mallett or Dalton. If Kaepernick is left when the Pats new pick comes up, expect Bill to take advantage of Al Davis’ giant woody for Colin Kaepernick. At the end of tonight , the Pats’ will have 4 picks in the first two rounds and could have 5 picks in the first two rounds next year. Let’s hope that DeMaurice Smith and Jeff Kessler don’t get their way and have the draft eliminated for 2012.

  53. bigdaddy44 says: Apr 29, 2011 11:00 AM

    Frankie,
    Check your facts before you write. You claim the Pats “NEVER” use their picks. In the last 2 drafts Belichick has made 8, yes count them, EIGHT picks in the first two rounds. (Chung, Brace, Butler, Vollmer, McCourty, Gronkowski, Cunningham and Spikes) In that group you have 6 starters and two that the jury is still out on. They will have at least four picks in the first two rounds by the end of tonight, and will be reloaded for next years’ draft. Last year was supposed to be a rebuilding year, and the team progressed faster than expected partly beacuse of their past two drafts. This is called BUILDING a franchise, and it is being done for the exact reason you site, because they haven’t won a playoff game since 2007. If you have some unreasonable need for your team to make a sexy top ten pick, with 30-40 million guaranteed at a fifty percent bust rate, you’re rooting for the wrong team. Why don’t you become a Raiders fan. Al Davis sounds like your kind of guy!

    frankiefiveangels says:
    Apr 29, 2011 5:52 AM
    I’m a Pats fan but I’m so tired of this. Trading for future picks has become a cliche for Belichick. I’m no scout but I feel Ingram or Heyward would have been great picks for them, but they had to trade out because it’s “The Patriot Way”. They are getting like an old man who saves his money forever then dies with a trunk of cash sitting under his bed. What good are these picks if you NEVER use them? Unfortunately the haters are right when they say this strategy seems smart until you realize they have not won a single playoff game since 2007.

  54. pastabelly says: Apr 29, 2011 11:15 AM

    autumnwind999 says:
    Apr 29, 2011 12:35 AM
    I don’t get everyone getting bent out out shape over the Pats trade. It’s likely to be a very low 1st round pick next year and the Saints got two absolute steals in Jordan and Ingram. Those two, along with Amakamura, were the biggest steals so far.

    Not to mention the fact that the Raiders CLEARLY got the best of them on that Seymour trade. Seymour with a two-year head start or Nate Solder? You make the call. Nothing against Solder per se, just that I’ll take the bona fide All Pro DT over a rookie who’s got maybe a 50% chance of panning out at all any day of the week (and twice on Sundays).

    ================================

    Well, that makes sense only if you believe that Seymour is really worth what they were paying for them and if you believe the Patriots couldn’t spend $10 million more wisely. The Patriots weren’t going to franchise Seymour and all they gave up was one year of him for five years of someone who is going to protect Tom Brady.

  55. moseszd says: Apr 29, 2011 3:07 PM

    brasho says:
    Apr 29, 2011 12:10 AM

    Kaepernick ran the Pistol… Dalton ran the spread. Both are gimmicky offenses. Dalton is average sized, with an average arm, and average mobility. He was a caretaker for the NCAA’s #1 defense. Kaepernick runs like the wind and has the best arm in the draft, not to mention he’s 6’5 and WAS the Nevada offense.

    …………

    Lol. Kaepernick was worthless against quality competition and is the second most 0ver-hyped (soon to be over-drafted) QB in this year’s draft.

    16 TDs with just 2 INTs vs. losing record/D-II teams, but 5 TDs with 6 INTs in 5 games against D-1 teams with a winning record (a monster red-flag).

    A 69.1% passer against the lesser opponents, with a 10% drop-off to 58.6% against D-1 teams with a winning record.

    A TD pass for every 13.4 Pass Attempts against lesser opponents, a TD pass for every 29.0 passes against the D-1 winning record teams (a major red-flag).

    In short, if he was playing fourth-rate competition, he was good. But the second he got to a level that would not even test a QB like Ponder, Stanzi, etc., he failed.

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