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Players show up to work out, Redskins turn them away

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Despite Judge Susan Nelson’s order that the NFL should be conducting business as usual, teams are continuing to turn players away from their facilities today.

Redskins linebacker Lorenzo Alexander and center Casey Rabach attempted to enter Redskins Park this morning but were turned away, and defensive end Vonnie Holliday, who was the team’s players’ representative, told the Washington Post that he was told Redskins Park is off limits.

“The doors are still closed and as I understand it, they will remain closed until the appeals process is completed,” Holliday said. “The courts made a ruling, and you would think that would carry more weight. Guys wanted to get back to work, resume getting physical therapy at the facility and train with our strength coaches, but the doors are still locked. It’s unfortunate that they’re choosing to handle it this way.”

The Redskins say they’re deferring to the NFL on how to handle players who show up to work. The league says it will tell teams how to proceed today.

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41 Responses to “Players show up to work out, Redskins turn them away”
  1. chapnastier says: Apr 28, 2011 10:22 AM

    There is no CBA, Virginia is a right to work state. If they don’t like it, then fire them.

  2. kernelreefer says: Apr 28, 2011 10:22 AM

    What an interesting and new (although not entirely surprising) way, for Dan Snyder to shoot himself in the foot!

    And, he threw the rest of the owners in, to boot!

  3. idriveamoped says: Apr 28, 2011 10:23 AM

    Anyone catch the Bruins game last night? That was exciting.

  4. clintonportisheadd says: Apr 28, 2011 10:24 AM

    “The doors are still closed and as I understand it, they will remain closed until the appeals process is completed,” Holliday said.

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    Really? Since when did the losing side in a lawsuit have that kind option? Oh wait-they don’t!

    Time for Judge Nelson to call up David Boies and ask him which NFL exec is going to be designated as the one to go to jail for contempt until they learn that they are not above the law.

  5. bringsanityback says: Apr 28, 2011 10:24 AM

    Perhaps the NFL should talk to MLB officials and ask them how a labor dispute can affect business. Fans are getting tired of all this posturing and it could sour a lot of people on the league.

  6. gtmann says: Apr 28, 2011 10:24 AM

    I know that Shanny and Snyder are stupid. but can they possably be THAT STUPID ?

  7. airraid77 says: Apr 28, 2011 10:25 AM

    see, the rich guy can ignore a judge too, just like king barry.. HOO rah.

  8. bleedgreen08052 says: Apr 28, 2011 10:27 AM

    fine time

  9. jamie54 says: Apr 28, 2011 10:28 AM

    BS they wanted to get back to work. Publicity stunts so they look good to the public. That and roster bonuses for showing up and “working out,” whatever that really means. Come on PFT tell it like it really is those are the only reasons why these guys are showing up. Normally there’s nothing scheduled until May min-camps when the draft picks come in before getting signed and will only work out if insurance is in place. Will that happen this year? Answer me that, otherwise…….zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

  10. moochzilla says: Apr 28, 2011 10:29 AM

    Willfully criminal behavior.

  11. bworacle says: Apr 28, 2011 10:32 AM

    You guys are behind. A number of news sites report that the NFL has told clubs to stay put pending the appeal to the 8th circuit.

  12. moochzilla says: Apr 28, 2011 10:33 AM

    “That and roster bonuses for showing up and “working out,” whatever that really means”

    It means that the owner willingly and eagerly offered to pour more money into the hands of the player, because he needs the player to make money.

    Asking the owner to honor that agreement isn’t extraordinary at all.

    It’s called ‘capitalism’. Look it up.

  13. broncsfan says: Apr 28, 2011 10:33 AM

    Wow, just straight-up breaking the law now?

  14. armchairgm9 says: Apr 28, 2011 10:36 AM

    Let them come in and workout. Post a disclaimer that “Team or League is not responsible for injuries.” You’re complying with the ruling but currently offer no benefits to players. It’s a hard line to take but you’re kinda cornered at this point.

  15. moochzilla says: Apr 28, 2011 10:36 AM

    “There is no CBA, Virginia is a right to work state. If they don’t like it, then fire them.”

    You know that would be giving every player what they want, right?

    You know the Redskins would go 0-16, right?

    Are you Donald Trump? Seriously, that’s some of the worst business advice I have ever seen.

    But that’s what happens when you operate 100% on emotion.

  16. kissbillsrings says: Apr 28, 2011 10:36 AM

    Seriously…on draft day??!! Like this isn’t some form of major posturing by the NFLPA….total crap….GO OWNERS!!!!!

  17. fltharley says: Apr 28, 2011 10:36 AM

    judge nelson should be throwing some owners in jail for contempt , how can they ignore a ruling ? the owners think becuase there rich they dont have to follow the rules. im so tired of the rich thinking they can get anything they want its time to through the owners and roger goodell in jail .

  18. fin72 says: Apr 28, 2011 10:38 AM

    There is no CBA, Virginia is a right to work state. If they don’t like it, then fire them
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    Sounds great, except the players are under contracts that give them rights to earn their bonuses and other money. Think before you speak.

  19. souldogdave says: Apr 28, 2011 10:39 AM

    Whoa, Dannyboy. You just told a federal judge to buzz-off. Dangerous waters to tread.The owners are going to push until someone burns for contempt of court.Would love it to be Snyder, since he’s such a tool anyway LOL.

  20. fatelvis77 says: Apr 28, 2011 10:40 AM

    Any Redskins fan wishing to see Lil Danny Snyder go to jail give this a thumbs up.

  21. richm2256 says: Apr 28, 2011 10:41 AM

    Please spare me thre baloney about how badly the players want to “get back to work”.

    These “players” are every bit as much to blame for this work stoppage as the owners are. THEY chose not to negotiate in good faith, THEY chose to take this to the legal system, THEY chose to decertify in order to make the anti-trust laws illegal, THEY chose to pursue every avenue to change the very face of the NFL as it has worked for 60-plus years, THEY are every bit as greedy as the owners.

    The players not only don’t want to give one nickel back to the owners, they want to destroy the league and change every facet of what has worked well for the owners, the players, and the fans for so long.

    Enough with the innocent “we just wanna show up for work” crap, please.

  22. grizzfire says: Apr 28, 2011 10:41 AM

    Uh oh. Here comes collusion and the end of the NFL as we knew it.

  23. igglesfan9 says: Apr 28, 2011 10:41 AM

    How can they turn players away but still conduct the draft? If no player is traded nor free agent signed in the next 48 hours and yet the league operates a full draft, won’t the players have a collusion lawsuit?

    Just because the NFL has appealed to the 8th circuit doesn’t mean they put everything on hold, that’s what they lost when Judge Nelson denied their stay request.

  24. jvw1982 says: Apr 28, 2011 10:43 AM

    The NFL continues to get outclassed by the players, another dumb move by the Billionaires……open the doors let them work out until the 8th district rules dumb asses……watch how the millionaires get compensation for this on top of the compensation they will get for that little side deal the owners carved out with the networks that violated the previous CBA…..

    My count has it Millionaires 8 Billionaires 2 if they don’t get a stay this one turns into a blow out……

  25. lasher1650 says: Apr 28, 2011 10:43 AM

    Keep poking the bear NFL – you are going to find yourself in contempt of court if not careful.

  26. weneedlinemen42 says: Apr 28, 2011 10:44 AM

    As a Redskins fan I am hoping the first thing that happens when the teams resume business is that Rabach gets cut.

    I am sick an tired about how important his line calls are when he is so weak at the point of attack that he is constantly being dumped in the QBs lap.

    As for resuming business. Surely an NFL franchises business is to stage games. I doubt there is anything in anti-trust laws that dictates how a sports team must build a roster or how it should coach and train its players.

    The NFL cannot artificially limit player movement but I doubt the anti-trust lawsuit can compel the NFL to operate under similar conditions to that set under the previous collectively bargained agreements.

    That would be perverse. The judge having declared that the players can no longer be treated as union could not reasonably expect businesses to skip a due diligence process in determining a new business plan.

    Surely all the teams have to do is say that they have restarted their business and their first priority is to consult the lawyers and develop a business plan. They’ll get around to relatively trivial step of getting ready for their games in a few weeks time, and that delay will in no way affect their ability to stage those games.

  27. hystoracle says: Apr 28, 2011 10:47 AM

    The workout bonuses are in place to encourage the players to show up in the offseason for “voluntary” workouts. It’s kind of backfiring on some teams right now.

    What if the owners win on appeal? What is their remedy for any business that is conducted or any players that are due compensation for showing up to work out.

    The Judge left all this clear as mud with no rules for the owners to go by. She has put them in a position to be liable for any move they make. Any decision they make will be taken to court because the players feel they can’t lose.

    It’s getting real old real fast. For the sake of the game these two sides need to come together and work out an agreement. As long as the court system is involved the game will continue to be degraded. You can’t have the inmates running the asylum. And you can’t have ownership treating the players like indentured servants. There needs to be a middle ground that is only going to come to fruition through a new CBA.

  28. dylanmusicfane says: Apr 28, 2011 10:49 AM

    lock someone up for this crap. i think we would all love to watch the owners scramble!

  29. chapnastier says: Apr 28, 2011 10:54 AM

    @mooch and fin

    I know it would be hard to tell from my opinions on this whole situation, but I was being extremely sarcastic.

  30. panther17 says: Apr 28, 2011 10:57 AM

    Correct me if I’m wrong but business as usual is what the NFL is supposed to be doing? So isn’t business as usual on first day of draft dealing with the draft and not players working out at the facility? Are the players even at the facility this time of year during business as usual? If I’m correct about business as usual, the players are not supposed to be there at this time and the NFL has every right to tell them to go home.

  31. jamaltimore says: Apr 28, 2011 10:57 AM

    Alexander is being told by his agent to show up so that he can collect his 50K workout bonus! He has no intention of working out just wants to make sure he gets his money! The rest of the players get paid per diem for showing up to work out while some better than alexander get much higher workout bonuses.

    VA is a right to work state, I think danny should fire them all and then offer them new jobs under a NFL with no CBA. No workout bonuses, no healthcare, no retirement, no per diem and let these idiots see how great life can be going forward.

  32. baddegg says: Apr 28, 2011 10:58 AM

    Why is everyone making this a “Dan Snyder Thing.” All of the owners are still keeping their players out.

    Not saying Dan Snyder is a great guy, but at least single him out over the right things. In this case, it’s the owners as a group that are continuing to maintain the status quo and keep the players out.

  33. mpayne12 says: Apr 28, 2011 11:02 AM

    Please please please send dan Snyder to jail, and not the camp cup cake style jail the federal pound you in th a$$ kind

  34. geo1113 says: Apr 28, 2011 11:05 AM

    There is no CBA, Virginia is a right to work state. If they don’t like it, then fire them
    _________________________________
    Sounds great, except the players are under contracts that give them rights to earn their bonuses and other money. Think before you speak.
    ______________________

    The contracts are not guaranteed ergo they can void the contracts, i.e. fire players. This dos not mean they are absolved from all financial responsibility.

  35. karlpilkington says: Apr 28, 2011 11:18 AM

    What an interesting and new (although not entirely surprising) way, for Dan Snyder to shoot himself in the foot!

    And, he threw the rest of the owners in, to boot!

    Ummm, I am know Dan Snyder apologist however Kernelreefer, I think the other owners will do what they want so to say that Dan Snyder is to blame for the rest of the league not being able to work out at the facilities is just a stupid statement. You must be from Dallas with cowsht between your ears.

  36. annnann says: Apr 28, 2011 11:23 AM

    So they are just going to ignore the judge’s order? Pretend like Judge Nelson never said anything? Great plan!

  37. jamie54 says: Apr 28, 2011 11:29 AM

    Hey, idiot moochzilla, stupid tag line by the way,…”because he needs the player to make money.”???? What? Early to be smoking, dude, ease up. When before in the history of this league have players showed up to ‘work’ on draft day? Tell me? Never, that explains it. Publicity stunt is all it is and if you are too stupid to realize then I really, really feel sorry for you.

  38. thefiesty1 says: Apr 28, 2011 11:29 AM

    Unfortunate is not the word for it. Understandable is more accurate. In the Skins case it won’t matter if they work out or not.

  39. granadafan says: Apr 28, 2011 11:30 AM

    “kissbillsrings says:
    Apr 28, 2011 10:36 AM
    Seriously…on draft day??!! Like this isn’t some form of major posturing by the NFLPA….total crap….GO OWNERS!!!!!”
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    Since when did the owners start making their employees post crappy pro-owner posts on blogs?

  40. stevem7 says: Apr 28, 2011 12:11 PM

    What a total joke it is to read the utter garbage of those of you who are supporting the players. Where were you all two years ago when the Union started counseling the players on saving money and being prepared for all of this because their aim was NEVER to bargain in good faith but rather to take the owners to court all along. But I’m sure for all of you losers that was the best way to handle things. The NFL owners should get back to business with REPLACEMENTS and NEVER hire one of the current crop of players to another contract ever.

  41. pappageorgio says: Apr 28, 2011 12:12 PM

    “The courts made a ruling, and you would think that would carry more weight. Guys wanted to get back to work, resume getting physical therapy at the facility and train with our strength coaches, but the doors are still locked. It’s unfortunate that they’re choosing to handle it this way.”….

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    Note to Mr. Holliday…….it is not unfortuante they way THEY are choosing to handle this situation. The situation everyone is currently in has a ton to do with the fact that the NFLPA has chosen the courts. When a party loses a ruling they have the RIGHT to the appeal process. If the players had lost, they would be the ones appealing and there would be nothing unfortunate about it.

    The players choosing the judicial process and then complaining about the other party using their rights under that process is pretty silly…..did they reallyexpect the owners to accept every ruling the minny courts handed down?

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