I like Mallet best, too. He’s a lot sharper than most people seem to think. It’s just a gut feeling, I don’t know jack about football, I just love watching it. I saw this kid on Gruden’s show and there’s just something I like about him. Seems like a real competitor, and mentally tough.

Like I said I don’t know anything, and I only saw him on a ~30 minute tv show. It’ll be fun to see what happens with this kid in the NFL. Who knows, maybe he just fades into obscurity.

The NFL had proof positive that Childress and Favre had direct phone conversations but lacked the balls to fine the Vikings for tampering.

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Ok Jimmeny, I’ve ignored your stupidity long enough and I’m finally going to take the bait.

The league had proof that Favre had phone conversations with at least a quarter of the teams for the last decade; were they all guilty of tampering that entire time you moron?

Plus, tell me this: Why would Childress try to convince Favre to come back and play when his Vikings constantly lost to the guy? Childress didn’t have access to the inner workings of the GB braintrust, so how would he know they wouldn’t welcome Favre back with open arms and that Favre would go on beating him like a drum? Did you ever stop to think about that Jimmeny? Did ya? Of course not, because you would need more than the two brain cells you currently possess.

And for all of you who blame Favre for the Vikings’ QB quandry; exactly who did they pass over by signing him as a free agent? In fact, in the years following Culpepper’s departure, who have they passed on that would be even considered a good QB. Henne is about as good as it gets in that search.

I don’t know if you can use Shanny’s expertise or lack thereof as a barometer of QB skill. He also traded for a QB with diminished skills that didn’t fit his system last year and signed Jake Plummer, who was never the great QB Shanny made him out to be.
(Not to mention that when Andy Reid, who actually has a track record for developing good QBs, lets his starter go in a trade to a team in the same division, the coach of that division team should have been smart enough to see that as a red flag.)
Shanahan has won two Super Bowls, but they were with John Elway, a Hall of Famer that Shanahan didn’t draft.

Either your name is some attempt at being ironical-like, or you’re a hypocrit as well as clueless. The media doesn’t scout players, scouts do. Members of the media speak to said talent evaluators when creating their opinions, but at the end of the day, it’s the talent evaluators who are making the picks, not the media. The fact that Gabbert slid has as much to do with the fact that every team that passed on him has holes all over their roster as it does to do with his actual value.

Gene Smith has yet to bust on a pick because he only takes calculated risks and I can assure you that the Jaguars weren’t looking to Kiper or McShay for advise on who to take.

If any of those other teams had taken Gabbert, his name would never have been mentioned in this post. The truth is, PFT has a well documented bias against the Jaguars, which is only further highlighted by including Blaine Gabbert in the “Reach” discussion.

I would consider it a red flag- but not necessarily against Blaine Gabbert.

Given the god awful way Shanny handled the Haynesworth and McNabb situations last year, this could be interpreted as one more red flag that Shanahan is suffering from early-onset dementia.

There was nothing about Blaine that spelt better than Cam, or Mallett or that much better than Jake. Do you really feel the elite media relentless attack on Mallett, and Cam was because of their so called off the field issues. Even the undermining of Jake’s game was telling

This was my first draft experience and I called it. I was saying from the beginning that Blaine was a complete media hype and not very good one either cause it didn’t even feel like they were convince. That Jon Grudden CBS website interview was very telling.

You keep forgetting that we are looking at these athletes through the prism of the media but the teams are looking at them personally. And when it was all said and done, it was the media who was feeding us how they wanted us to see Blaine and not what was really going.

One can tell it was hype when they kept telling us how high Blaine was only to concede that he was falling in the end.

And honestly, when I saw Jake leap-frog Blaine and Ponder went easily to the 12th pick, it was even more clearer that if the Jaguars didn’t swoop in and take Blaine, he might have free-fall down to where he rightfully belong in the late teens.

As the say, some things that come out of the media is for entertainment purposes. To make it anymore than that is to your dismay.

Wonder what the book said on Brady? Would be interesting to see where Mayock and co. had him and what was said about him. My guess would be very similar things, including, career backup, not a strong arm, poor mechanics, you know the usual crap. What this means is, the “experts” don’t really know how a guy will perform in the pros until he takes the field. Let’s wish them well and hope for success on their respective teams.

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Thats exactly what I said in the ‘Dalton a 4th round talent’. What did they say about Romo, Warner, Brady, Favre, Moon and heck, even Jake Delhomme? QB is the most ‘learned’ position. You need the physical tools, but lets be honest… if these guys didn’t have the physical tools they wouldn’t be playing in the NFL. They ALL have the physical tools. Its a matter of WANTING to learn to be a good QB and putting the work in. You can’t learn to be great, but you can learn to be good enough with enough work.

Heck, even Drew Brees was the last pick of the 2nd round. If they want to put the work in, they can all be successful QBs in this league.

All I can say is in the short term, I know he’s smart, but with our offensive line, he’d better be fast too!

You know the rest of the story, Favre was shipped out of GB, faked another retirement to get out of his Jets contract and was free to sign with the Vikings, earn Childress a contract extension and then last year’s last place finish. The Vikings waste a 3rd round pick to please Favre and now reached for Ponder, all direct consequences of their ill fated tampering scheme. Like I said, pure karma.

Favre was the 33rd overall pick in ’91. That’s late? Then traded to GB for the 16th pick the next year. Don’t compare a rookie who has no where near the same arm strength or will to win as Favre. Favre had a great QB coach, a great head coach, and Sterling Sharpe to chuck it up to.

It was a bad pick. Could have had Ponder in the 2nd round easily, and should have taken Mallett over him anyway.

Thanks from a Packer fan though, it’s not like the Vikings needed DB help in a division with Cutler, Rodgers, and Stafford.

Oh well, I’m excited to have the Vikings finally roll the dice with a QB in the first round. Nice to change a pace to see a guy we drafted in the 1st under center rather than another vet.

My biggest problem is I think Ponder isn’t better than the Redhead or Mallett (mark my words Mallett is the best QB in this draft 5 years from now) and even though i think he fits the personal the Vikings have I think his noodle arm just hammered the nail in the coffin of Rice being a viking next year. Rice is a big play down the field guy and will not want to play with a guy who throws lob passes that can’t even go 40 yards down the field. I would love to see Rice go to St louis so we can see how good #8 really can be

Rumor has it that Shanahan really liked Ponder and figured he could still get him at 16.