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	<title>Comments on: Ravens want fourth-round pick from Bears</title>
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		<title>By: willy54</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/29/ravens-want-fourth-round-pick-from-bears/#comment-1047312</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[willy54]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2011 05:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The thing is that the Raven ultimately did the same to the Vikings. Not only that but Ozzie said afterwards that &quot;there is no trade until I talk to Bussert&quot;. Now they want compensation from the Bears when they never even accepted any of the blame last time?  Remember Ozzie that the Bears never talked to Bussert so they never had a trade, so when time runs out  you go make your pick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing is that the Raven ultimately did the same to the Vikings. Not only that but Ozzie said afterwards that &#8220;there is no trade until I talk to Bussert&#8221;. Now they want compensation from the Bears when they never even accepted any of the blame last time?  Remember Ozzie that the Bears never talked to Bussert so they never had a trade, so when time runs out  you go make your pick.</p>
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		<title>By: elschill</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/29/ravens-want-fourth-round-pick-from-bears/#comment-1046363</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[elschill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 18:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hate that I am saying this, but I&#039;m really proud of Angelo here. Not to get all preachy, but it&#039;s rare in this day and age when someone in upper management is willing to take the blame for a mistake. He could have easily kept his mouth shut and let the ravens fans throw their own management under the bus. Instead, he manned up! Good job, Jerry!

However, as a Bears FAN-I say offer a 7th round pick and tell them, &quot;take it or leave it.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hate that I am saying this, but I&#8217;m really proud of Angelo here. Not to get all preachy, but it&#8217;s rare in this day and age when someone in upper management is willing to take the blame for a mistake. He could have easily kept his mouth shut and let the ravens fans throw their own management under the bus. Instead, he manned up! Good job, Jerry!</p>
<p>However, as a Bears FAN-I say offer a 7th round pick and tell them, &#8220;take it or leave it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: edgarpoe2</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 17:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[conradcountry says:
How quickly the haters forget that the Ravens did the exact same thing to the Vikings.
truthserum4u says:
So if the Ravens should be so fortunate to receive the 4th round compensation (which I highly doubt) they can just pass it along to the Vikings, since if they feel the Bears are obligated then so too should they be.
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The only difference was that the Jaguars intentionally tied up the lines to prevent the Ravens from trading with Minnesota. The Jags wanted Leftwich for themselves.

&quot;When the time ran out on the Vikings, the Jaguars ran up to pick Leftwich. The Ravens eventually won out on the deal because it wound up with Terrell Suggs with the 10th pick.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>conradcountry says:<br />
How quickly the haters forget that the Ravens did the exact same thing to the Vikings.<br />
truthserum4u says:<br />
So if the Ravens should be so fortunate to receive the 4th round compensation (which I highly doubt) they can just pass it along to the Vikings, since if they feel the Bears are obligated then so too should they be.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
The only difference was that the Jaguars intentionally tied up the lines to prevent the Ravens from trading with Minnesota. The Jags wanted Leftwich for themselves.</p>
<p>&#8220;When the time ran out on the Vikings, the Jaguars ran up to pick Leftwich. The Ravens eventually won out on the deal because it wound up with Terrell Suggs with the 10th pick.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: truthserum4u</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/29/ravens-want-fourth-round-pick-from-bears/#comment-1046054</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[truthserum4u]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 15:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The difference?  This time around, the Ravens had a deal in place to move down.&quot;

There&#039;s NO difference between the two instances.  In fact, they are EXACTLY the same, right down to the agreed upon compensation to make the deal. 

The Vikings agreed to take a 4th round pick from Baltimore to move down in the 2003 draft.  The Vikings watched the time go off the clock as they thought the pick was now in the hands of the Ravens and the trade just hadn&#039;t been announced yet.  The Ravens claimed they couldn&#039;t get thru to the league, a tidbit they didn&#039;t even bother to notify the Vikings of.  Both teams in that situation also ended up with the players they initially intended to draft.  Funny, I don&#039;t remember Ozzie offering to pay up back then.

So if the Ravens should be so fortunate to receive the 4th round compensation (which I highly doubt) they can just pass it along to the Vikings, since if they feel the Bears are obligated then so too should they be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The difference?  This time around, the Ravens had a deal in place to move down.&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s NO difference between the two instances.  In fact, they are EXACTLY the same, right down to the agreed upon compensation to make the deal. </p>
<p>The Vikings agreed to take a 4th round pick from Baltimore to move down in the 2003 draft.  The Vikings watched the time go off the clock as they thought the pick was now in the hands of the Ravens and the trade just hadn&#8217;t been announced yet.  The Ravens claimed they couldn&#8217;t get thru to the league, a tidbit they didn&#8217;t even bother to notify the Vikings of.  Both teams in that situation also ended up with the players they initially intended to draft.  Funny, I don&#8217;t remember Ozzie offering to pay up back then.</p>
<p>So if the Ravens should be so fortunate to receive the 4th round compensation (which I highly doubt) they can just pass it along to the Vikings, since if they feel the Bears are obligated then so too should they be.</p>
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		<title>By: azbearsfan</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/29/ravens-want-fourth-round-pick-from-bears/#comment-1046048</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[azbearsfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 15:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Baltimore Browns can suck it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Baltimore Browns can suck it.</p>
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		<title>By: gridassassin</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/29/ravens-want-fourth-round-pick-from-bears/#comment-1045978</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gridassassin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 15:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hard to believe in the age of technology this is how the NFL operates.  There should be a conference call between the two teams with the NFL paper pusher.

Once the Bears didn&#039;t phone into the conference call with a minute left, the Ravens should have picked their guy.

The system is flawed, and should be improved.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hard to believe in the age of technology this is how the NFL operates.  There should be a conference call between the two teams with the NFL paper pusher.</p>
<p>Once the Bears didn&#8217;t phone into the conference call with a minute left, the Ravens should have picked their guy.</p>
<p>The system is flawed, and should be improved.</p>
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		<title>By: ravensfan4life52</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ravensfan4life52]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 15:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@mswravens

SHHHHH!! we could get an extra pick out of this. just go with it lol.

and the Browns comment, priceless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mswravens</p>
<p>SHHHHH!! we could get an extra pick out of this. just go with it lol.</p>
<p>and the Browns comment, priceless.</p>
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		<title>By: mswravens</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/29/ravens-want-fourth-round-pick-from-bears/#comment-1045954</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mswravens]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 15:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a HUGE Ravens fan...but c&#039;mon, why would we be entitled to anything?  Bears calling the league is an essential step to complete the trade.  It didn&#039;t happen, so there was no trade.  Aneglo has to live with the ramifications of what he did, but so be it...we&#039;re not entitled to squat.  Meanwhile, we got a great player!!!

Second, Ozzie is very good at what he does, but he&#039;s not the draft G-d that everyone tries to make him out to be.  There have been total drafts he has tanked, not to mention bad picks.  As good as he is in the 1st round is as bad as he has been in the 2nd.  I&#039;m happy to have him, because he is very good...but he&#039;s hardly the be all &amp; end all of the draft.  Now had he got Jimmy Smith &amp; the Bears 4th rounder - that woulda been a coup!

Lastly, Browns fans saying anything is beyond hilarious.  Not only is your franchise a dump, but you continue to place your hopes on another essentially useless QB, and you continue to trade down to get more picks while failing to secure any elite playmakers for your team.  That&#039;s just not the way to get it done.  You need playmakers in this league.  Your only hope is to put your whole 2012 draft into getting Andrew Luck &amp; building from there.  Otherwise, you will continue to occupy the basement...or wallow in mediocrity at best...for the next 10 years.  As another poster commented...too bad, so sad...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a HUGE Ravens fan&#8230;but c&#8217;mon, why would we be entitled to anything?  Bears calling the league is an essential step to complete the trade.  It didn&#8217;t happen, so there was no trade.  Aneglo has to live with the ramifications of what he did, but so be it&#8230;we&#8217;re not entitled to squat.  Meanwhile, we got a great player!!!</p>
<p>Second, Ozzie is very good at what he does, but he&#8217;s not the draft G-d that everyone tries to make him out to be.  There have been total drafts he has tanked, not to mention bad picks.  As good as he is in the 1st round is as bad as he has been in the 2nd.  I&#8217;m happy to have him, because he is very good&#8230;but he&#8217;s hardly the be all &amp; end all of the draft.  Now had he got Jimmy Smith &amp; the Bears 4th rounder &#8211; that woulda been a coup!</p>
<p>Lastly, Browns fans saying anything is beyond hilarious.  Not only is your franchise a dump, but you continue to place your hopes on another essentially useless QB, and you continue to trade down to get more picks while failing to secure any elite playmakers for your team.  That&#8217;s just not the way to get it done.  You need playmakers in this league.  Your only hope is to put your whole 2012 draft into getting Andrew Luck &amp; building from there.  Otherwise, you will continue to occupy the basement&#8230;or wallow in mediocrity at best&#8230;for the next 10 years.  As another poster commented&#8230;too bad, so sad&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: thephantomstranger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thephantomstranger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 14:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I posted this before, but apparently it was too controversial. In 2003, the Vikings had a deal in place with the Ravens. The Vikings called the trade in and the Ravens didn&#039;t. It&#039;s exactly the same situation as last night. The only difference is that the Vikings didn&#039;t whine about it like the Ravens are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted this before, but apparently it was too controversial. In 2003, the Vikings had a deal in place with the Ravens. The Vikings called the trade in and the Ravens didn&#8217;t. It&#8217;s exactly the same situation as last night. The only difference is that the Vikings didn&#8217;t whine about it like the Ravens are.</p>
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		<title>By: ravensfan4life52</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ravensfan4life52]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 14:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i like the irony of everyone complaining about Baltimore &#039;always&#039; complaining. I think you guys complain a whole lot more than about the Ravens than the Ravens complain about anything else. i think it&#039;s jealousy, but maybe it&#039;s ignorance. 

Now if you&#039;re a steelers, bengals, or browns fan, first of all i hate you :). but second of all my above statement doesn&#039;t pertain to you. you guys can hate on baltimore all that you want, because i do the same thing to all of your teams. It&#039;s part of the rivalry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like the irony of everyone complaining about Baltimore &#8216;always&#8217; complaining. I think you guys complain a whole lot more than about the Ravens than the Ravens complain about anything else. i think it&#8217;s jealousy, but maybe it&#8217;s ignorance. </p>
<p>Now if you&#8217;re a steelers, bengals, or browns fan, first of all i hate you <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . but second of all my above statement doesn&#8217;t pertain to you. you guys can hate on baltimore all that you want, because i do the same thing to all of your teams. It&#8217;s part of the rivalry.</p>
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		<title>By: jesseparkes</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 14:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not a fan of either team but just citing the fact that both teams got the player they say they wanted is NOT justification for Chicago to not pay up their 4th round pick.  Chicago did not know 100% for sure who Kansas City was going to select and they wanted to move ahead of them to be sure it wasn&#039;t who they wanted, presumably Carimi and felt giving up the 4th rounder was worth it to make sure they got their guy.  In essense, they were purchasing insurance with their 4th rounder to make sure they got their guy.  Turns out they didn&#039;t need it but you can&#039;t expect to get your insurance premiums back just because your house didn&#039;t burn down.

So since everyone got who they wanted should the fourth rounder get sent to Baltimore?  Probably not; though Chicago was trying to get their insurance they never got it and because of the clock they put their trade partner at risk of losing their guy.  Unfortunately for Baltimore, they just got screwed by Chicago messing up, and they are not entitled to the benefits of the agreement when it wasn&#039;t properly finalized and they didn&#039;t have to provide the insurance.  It really sucks for them but they can&#039;t get something for nothing - They signed the contract but Chicago didn&#039;t, even though Chicago verbally agreed to the deal.  It wasn&#039;t finalized and Baltimore got screwed out of a fourth, but they aren&#039;t entitled to the pick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a fan of either team but just citing the fact that both teams got the player they say they wanted is NOT justification for Chicago to not pay up their 4th round pick.  Chicago did not know 100% for sure who Kansas City was going to select and they wanted to move ahead of them to be sure it wasn&#8217;t who they wanted, presumably Carimi and felt giving up the 4th rounder was worth it to make sure they got their guy.  In essense, they were purchasing insurance with their 4th rounder to make sure they got their guy.  Turns out they didn&#8217;t need it but you can&#8217;t expect to get your insurance premiums back just because your house didn&#8217;t burn down.</p>
<p>So since everyone got who they wanted should the fourth rounder get sent to Baltimore?  Probably not; though Chicago was trying to get their insurance they never got it and because of the clock they put their trade partner at risk of losing their guy.  Unfortunately for Baltimore, they just got screwed by Chicago messing up, and they are not entitled to the benefits of the agreement when it wasn&#8217;t properly finalized and they didn&#8217;t have to provide the insurance.  It really sucks for them but they can&#8217;t get something for nothing &#8211; They signed the contract but Chicago didn&#8217;t, even though Chicago verbally agreed to the deal.  It wasn&#8217;t finalized and Baltimore got screwed out of a fourth, but they aren&#8217;t entitled to the pick.</p>
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		<title>By: supashug</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[supashug]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 14:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“It was our fault,” Angelo said.  “They did everything according to the rules. . . .  We had a disconnect. Whatever you hear, Baltimore did everything right.”

now everyone shut up, its done]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“It was our fault,” Angelo said.  “They did everything according to the rules. . . .  We had a disconnect. Whatever you hear, Baltimore did everything right.”</p>
<p>now everyone shut up, its done</p>
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		<title>By: gdeli</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gdeli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 14:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mike tice is a world class dumb ass.  What a tool.  Captain Loveboat, but he would say let boys be boys.  Jerk.  then followed by &quot;the chiller&quot;.  let&#039;s hope frazier has his crap together.  Just be a fair, firm, confident coach.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mike tice is a world class dumb ass.  What a tool.  Captain Loveboat, but he would say let boys be boys.  Jerk.  then followed by &#8220;the chiller&#8221;.  let&#8217;s hope frazier has his crap together.  Just be a fair, firm, confident coach.</p>
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		<title>By: whitecastleisafoodgroup</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[whitecastleisafoodgroup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 14:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eh, Angelo admitted their mistake and the Bears will compensate the Ravens. Everyone chill.

They look stupid and will have a tough time making anymore deals during this draft. They are notorious for trading down to get extra picks. There&#039;s their punishment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh, Angelo admitted their mistake and the Bears will compensate the Ravens. Everyone chill.</p>
<p>They look stupid and will have a tough time making anymore deals during this draft. They are notorious for trading down to get extra picks. There&#8217;s their punishment.</p>
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		<title>By: ravenator</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/29/ravens-want-fourth-round-pick-from-bears/#comment-1045859</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ravenator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 14:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bears front office does not know how to operate a telephone system, shocking!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bears front office does not know how to operate a telephone system, shocking!</p>
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		<title>By: 52sackmachine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[52sackmachine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 14:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like the bears pick in Carimi. I think he is going to be a future pro-bowler, and future hall of famer. I just hope that the bears realize how good this kid is. As both a packer and badger fan, this kid is going to be better than what Houston got at number 11 in J.J Watt. Carimi to me was the best offensive lineman in the draft. I was hoping he wouldv&#039;e fell to the packers at 32. Chicago at least for the first round hit a homerun along with Detroit in the first round from the NFC NORTH!.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the bears pick in Carimi. I think he is going to be a future pro-bowler, and future hall of famer. I just hope that the bears realize how good this kid is. As both a packer and badger fan, this kid is going to be better than what Houston got at number 11 in J.J Watt. Carimi to me was the best offensive lineman in the draft. I was hoping he wouldv&#8217;e fell to the packers at 32. Chicago at least for the first round hit a homerun along with Detroit in the first round from the NFC NORTH!.</p>
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		<title>By: thefiesty1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thefiesty1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 14:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They screwed the pouch.  Too bad if they wanted Baldwin.  Trying to pull a Minnesota?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They screwed the pouch.  Too bad if they wanted Baldwin.  Trying to pull a Minnesota?</p>
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		<title>By: echoplex89</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[echoplex89]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 14:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[no 

the vikings  same thing in 2002 with bryant mckinnie and the ravens didn&#039;t get compensation when mthe deal blew up.

The ravens also have stated publicly that they got the player they wanted, the CB from Colorodo. They were not hurt in the process so they don&#039;t deserve compensation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no </p>
<p>the vikings  same thing in 2002 with bryant mckinnie and the ravens didn&#8217;t get compensation when mthe deal blew up.</p>
<p>The ravens also have stated publicly that they got the player they wanted, the CB from Colorodo. They were not hurt in the process so they don&#8217;t deserve compensation.</p>
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		<title>By: conradcountry</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/29/ravens-want-fourth-round-pick-from-bears/#comment-1045815</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[conradcountry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 13:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How quickly the haters forget that the Ravens did the exact same thing to the Vikings.

Eight years ago, the Minnesota Vikings thought they had a draft-day deal with the Baltimore Ravens to move from the No. 7 to the No. 10 overall pick in the draft. They reported the trade to the NFL and assumed the Ravens had done the same.

Then they watched in horror as their television screens showed their time limit had expired and two teams jumped in front of them. The Ravens later claimed they could not get through to the NFL to report their end of the deal, a failure that embarrassed the Vikings even after they recovered to select defensive tackle Kevin Williams at No. 9 overall.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How quickly the haters forget that the Ravens did the exact same thing to the Vikings.</p>
<p>Eight years ago, the Minnesota Vikings thought they had a draft-day deal with the Baltimore Ravens to move from the No. 7 to the No. 10 overall pick in the draft. They reported the trade to the NFL and assumed the Ravens had done the same.</p>
<p>Then they watched in horror as their television screens showed their time limit had expired and two teams jumped in front of them. The Ravens later claimed they could not get through to the NFL to report their end of the deal, a failure that embarrassed the Vikings even after they recovered to select defensive tackle Kevin Williams at No. 9 overall.</p>
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		<title>By: pkrjones</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/29/ravens-want-fourth-round-pick-from-bears/#comment-1045800</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 13:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have to assume that the Bears initiated the trade and were accepting of the terms.  The Bears screwed-up and didn&#039;t finish - they should be responsible for the terms of that trade and give-up their 4th.  Just because both teams got who they wanted doesn&#039;t mean that all should be forgiven.  Angelo needs to stand-up and be a man (unlike his QB) ~ accept responsibility for screwing up and finish the terms.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to assume that the Bears initiated the trade and were accepting of the terms.  The Bears screwed-up and didn&#8217;t finish &#8211; they should be responsible for the terms of that trade and give-up their 4th.  Just because both teams got who they wanted doesn&#8217;t mean that all should be forgiven.  Angelo needs to stand-up and be a man (unlike his QB) ~ accept responsibility for screwing up and finish the terms.</p>
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		<title>By: bombacim</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/29/ravens-want-fourth-round-pick-from-bears/#comment-1045798</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bombacim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 13:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First off - let&#039;s be honest here.  The vikes were the joke of the first round taking a guy they could have gotten in the 2nd round.

Secondly - They both got the players they wanted. Who cares.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off &#8211; let&#8217;s be honest here.  The vikes were the joke of the first round taking a guy they could have gotten in the 2nd round.</p>
<p>Secondly &#8211; They both got the players they wanted. Who cares.</p>
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		<title>By: qj1984</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/29/ravens-want-fourth-round-pick-from-bears/#comment-1045794</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 13:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Ravens still ended up with one of the two guys that they would have had they had to pick 29. Smith probably would have still been there and if he wasnt Wilkerson was. 

The Bears blew it and I hope the Ravens dont do business with them again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Ravens still ended up with one of the two guys that they would have had they had to pick 29. Smith probably would have still been there and if he wasnt Wilkerson was. </p>
<p>The Bears blew it and I hope the Ravens dont do business with them again.</p>
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		<title>By: cappa662</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/29/ravens-want-fourth-round-pick-from-bears/#comment-1045787</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cappa662]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 13:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No way. The Bears shouldnt give anything. THe trade wasnt official.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No way. The Bears shouldnt give anything. THe trade wasnt official.</p>
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		<title>By: wizgoblin</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/29/ravens-want-fourth-round-pick-from-bears/#comment-1045782</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 13:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People ripping on the Ravens for this are fools. They still got their guy and might even be able to swindle an extra pick from the Bears due to their ineptness. Had the Patriots taken Jimmy Smith prior to the Ravens handing in their pick then I would say your ridiculous comments could be justified.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People ripping on the Ravens for this are fools. They still got their guy and might even be able to swindle an extra pick from the Bears due to their ineptness. Had the Patriots taken Jimmy Smith prior to the Ravens handing in their pick then I would say your ridiculous comments could be justified.</p>
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		<title>By: zaggs</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/29/ravens-want-fourth-round-pick-from-bears/#comment-1045779</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zaggs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 13:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its the Raven&#039;s responsibility.  They owned the pick and it wasn&#039;t a case of the bears never calling, they didn&#039;t call in time which means either Baltimore should have gone ahead with a pick, or they took too long to try to make a deal.  If the Bears never made it official, oh well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its the Raven&#8217;s responsibility.  They owned the pick and it wasn&#8217;t a case of the bears never calling, they didn&#8217;t call in time which means either Baltimore should have gone ahead with a pick, or they took too long to try to make a deal.  If the Bears never made it official, oh well.</p>
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		<title>By: freedomispopular</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/29/ravens-want-fourth-round-pick-from-bears/#comment-1045775</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[freedomispopular]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 13:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the end, everyone got the guy they wanted. So what difference does it make?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, everyone got the guy they wanted. So what difference does it make?</p>
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		<title>By: dg5520</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/29/ravens-want-fourth-round-pick-from-bears/#comment-1045759</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dg5520]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 13:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ brownsfn:  

I would be bitter too if I was a fan of the Cleveland Browns.  

Ravens got Their guy and will get a 4th round pick from the Bears as well.  Ozzie the legend does it again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ brownsfn:  </p>
<p>I would be bitter too if I was a fan of the Cleveland Browns.  </p>
<p>Ravens got Their guy and will get a 4th round pick from the Bears as well.  Ozzie the legend does it again.</p>
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		<title>By: 3octaveFart</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/29/ravens-want-fourth-round-pick-from-bears/#comment-1045758</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[3octaveFart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 13:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, the season hasn&#039;t even started yet and the Ratbirds got flagged for &quot;delay of game&quot; already.

Not a good sign for the upcoming season boys...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, the season hasn&#8217;t even started yet and the Ratbirds got flagged for &#8220;delay of game&#8221; already.</p>
<p>Not a good sign for the upcoming season boys&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: derek2957</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/29/ravens-want-fourth-round-pick-from-bears/#comment-1045757</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[derek2957]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 13:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To everyone saying the Ravens should have had a plan B for if they couldn&#039;t get a deal done, the Ravens did have a deal done, the bears agreed, the Ravens called the NFL to make the trade official, and then the bears have to call and say the trade is official.  In this case, da Bears did not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To everyone saying the Ravens should have had a plan B for if they couldn&#8217;t get a deal done, the Ravens did have a deal done, the bears agreed, the Ravens called the NFL to make the trade official, and then the bears have to call and say the trade is official.  In this case, da Bears did not.</p>
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		<title>By: thetechnocrat</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/29/ravens-want-fourth-round-pick-from-bears/#comment-1045751</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thetechnocrat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 13:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the NFL takes picks for tampering, then they should penalize teams for inept draft management too. Angelo even admitted it. I&#039;m sure Bears fans are hoping this is his last draft at the helm.
Give &#039;em the pick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the NFL takes picks for tampering, then they should penalize teams for inept draft management too. Angelo even admitted it. I&#8217;m sure Bears fans are hoping this is his last draft at the helm.<br />
Give &#8216;em the pick.</p>
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