The labor law v. antitrust situation is complex. The injunction issue is not- it is first year remedies class.

Come on PFT, either stop being bias toward the players or just be honest and admit your bias. It really is OK to admit your bias and I would have a lot more respect for you if you did admit that you favor the players.

But this is not about politics, it is about law. And the underlying reason for a stay of the injunction is simple: under the law, injunctive relief is an equitable remedy, and is never proper unless the allegedly injured party can show irreparable harm. But irreparable harm is not inconvenience or the idea that some party is unfair- it is by legal definition (the standard the, you know, judges and courts are supposed to use, laws and stuff like that) harm that could never be put right by writing a check for money: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreparable_damage_or_injury

The one who is flagrantly in error here under the law is Nelson, in her original order, and that is why the 8th Circuit is looking at this. She is re-writing law in an obvious and high profile case that would set precedent, all because she, probably correctly, recognizes that Jerry Jones and others are evil, greedy, classless jerks out to screw everybody to line their own pockets. That fact can’t hide the reality that there is exactly zero harm here to anyone that can’t be set right by writing a check for money damages. Someone, please, explain to me one example here where money- which isn’t even due to players till this Fall, so the timing is also in gross error- won’t fix anyone’s problem? Every move by every party is driven by cold hard cash.

The owners are determined to get jurisdiction here removed from Doty and Nelson, who are more interested in their views of social justice for working people than the law. This is a labor dispute- in every way imaginable. The players are acting more like a union than they did last year before they decertified. Did the owners plsay games with the TV contract to give themselves operating cash? Sure- and let them pay a penalty for that. That still doesn’t change the underlying law.

There is no irreparable harm, period. The injunction is in gross legal error, period. And the lockout/strike should go on until the parties compromise on a new deal, or the players decide to go form their own league- which they have a perfect right to do if they truly are not a union- and compete with the current NFL.

But that logic goes both ways to show the decertification of the PA is a complete sham based upon comments from the player reps. So the lockout would be okay in that setting and this decision supports that.

Judges are nothing but high priced w**res. I am really saddened by the fact that they will be deciding an issue when they have probably never even seen a football game but somehow are enamored by the jocks and all. Just MHO.
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Save the crying rayrayjojo,
De Digit chose to litigate rather than negotiate.

Which side turned their backs and walked from the negotiations? Which side De-Shammified? Which side filed suit named players that didn’t bother to show up for the trial? Can you dig it?

Cry me a river rayrayjojo

Personally, I would just say the hell with it and make there be no rules. Then the best players would make 95% of the money while the long snapper would make $20 an hour. But I’m just a football fan with a hot head who wants his fix.

It is obvious that this judge was just posturing either for his political base or for the fans, but he doesn’t realize that we don’t want football until we make sure that the competitive balance that we have grown to love the last 20 years remains moving forward.

The only way a fair deal to both the owners and players is done is by both sides taking a hit to their wallet. Humble them a little and watch how quick both sides are a little more reasonable.

People are so short sighted. They don’t care if it can destroy the league in the future as long as they get their fix now.

No matter what, the players can’t win the the lawsuit. This needs to get done at a negotiating table with cool heads running the show.

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Agreed. Warlords are more decisive.

Extend previous CBA for a 1 season period, get back to negotiations or mediation. Get a god d*** deal done. We all go from mid level boners over the weekend to shrivelling inside like a belly button.

Ridiculous! I now have football blue balls.

Basically they were being asked to spend money in a vacuum, without knowing the rules, and put themselves into a position that absolutely anything they did was going to get added into the ongoing Brady lawsuit. That was unreasonable, and provided the risk of harm the owners needed to demonstrate, and the majority of the appeals court thus granted the stay. A judge can’t tell you to just increase your liability risk in an ongoing suit under penalty of contempt, and that’s basically what Judge Nelson had done. The owners either would have to follow her ruling and end up even more liable or she could hold them into contempt as PFT was quick to suggest. So the owners appealed and the appellate court agreed.

Doesn’t change much, but maybe this signals the players that the above court, where this case actually will get decided isn’t as hospitable as Nelson. And maybe this will be the impetus for the players to come to the table with a deal better for the sport than the no draft, no free agency, no rules system their lawyers seem to be flirting with.

The players aren’t being any more irreperably harmed than the owners. All they’ve missed are some workouts and a few meetings with the coaches.