Trade fiasco has Ravens owner “disappointed in the Bears and McCaskeys”

AP

Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti is upset with the Bears, saying the McCaskey family, descendants of George Halas and owners of the team, have tarnished their good name by acting dishonorably in a trade gone bad during Thursday night’s first round of the NFL draft.

“I’m disappointed in the Bears and the McCaskeys,” Bisciotti said. “It is in my opinion a deviation from their great legacy. They concluded that their heartfelt and admirable apology was sufficient for our loss. All of us at the Ravens strongly disagree . . . probably end of story.”

When the Ravens were on the clock in the first round of the NFL draft, they agreed to trade down with the Bears in exchange for the Bears’ fourth-round pick. The Bears, however, didn’t get their end of the trade agreement into the league on time, resulting in the Ravens losing out on the trade. Bears G.M. Jerry Angelo has admitted it was his fault and apologized, but the NFL declined to force the Bears to give the Ravens their fourth-round pick.

So while the Ravens are right to be angry and the Bears clearly screwed up, Bisciotti is correct when he says this is probably the end of the story.

71 responses to “Trade fiasco has Ravens owner “disappointed in the Bears and McCaskeys”

  1. They did the same thing to the Vikings, as you posted earlier. End of story! Be disappointed on how you got handled in the playoff’s this year.

  2. Oh, for God’s sake, let it go. What a drama queen.

    “Tarnished their good name”? Seriously.

    The Ravens got the player they wanted, and the Bears apologized. It should definitely be the end of the story.

    He’s just angry that he didn’t get awarded a free pick.

    Get over it.

  3. Oh boo-hoo Steve.
    Hines Ward is disappointed that you guys cried like a 4 year old that lost their power ranger when your ‘bad-ass’ defense kept getting de-cleated by an old, slow undersized wide receiver.
    The Baltimore Ravens are the chick flick of the NFL.

  4. The key in this story is that the Ravens reportedly turned down another offer for their 26th pick in favor of the Bears proposal. And then the Bears even into the last minute (according to a Ravens PR rep’s blog) assured Newsome by phone that they had confirmed the deal with the league, effectively lying to the Ravens. Since he had traded the pick, Newsome didn’t submit a player choice for the 26th pick, and ended up losing the pick. They really couldn’t have put in a card in the last minute without risking the Bears accusing them of reneging. Thus the Bears cost them not only whatever other team’s deal they turned down in exchange for the Bear’s 4th rounded, but also the 26th pick since the Ravens didn’t know it was still their pick (based on the Bears lying to them, actually saying they had confirmed the deal). The facts aren’t even in dispute as the Bears GM came out publicly and said it was their fault. Basically the Bears GM said they shafted the Ravens and they can go to h__ll.

    No idea why the league uses such an archaic and flawed trade system. But when two parties agree on something, and then one party backs out of the deal at the last second without telling the other (let alone lying to them), to the other’s detriment, it should cost them something. Now if they backed out with 3 minutes on the clock, fine. But to let the time expire knowing the other party thought you had confirmed their trade that YOU requested… please.

    It probably is the end of the story in the sense that I doubt the Bears will cough up anything for their misdeed. It will not be the end of the story in the sense that organizations have long memories and not only will future trade partners view the word of the Bears GM with suspicion, but if there’s even an opportunity for the Ravens to leave the Bears holding the bag, you know they are going to take it and tell them to go to h_ll. Sometimes it’s worth it to cough up a peace offering after you shafted somebody to avoid a future enemy. Most of us learned this in kindergarten. Not Angelo apparently.

  5. Please get over it!! It is ridiculously hypocritical for Ozzie and crew to be fired up over this when just a few years ago, Ozzie had the opposite attitude by saying, oh well, I didn’t call it in with the league, you get nadda!! Which you have reported on here!
    To drag the McKaskey’s into this, as if in a lockout year, and a bunch of needs the Bears should just give them a pick when they got the guy they wanted anyway!! You know what that is Micheal…No harm no foul!!! Tell these fools in Baltimore to handle there own house!!!

  6. Hey Steve, Were you that upset when Ozzie did them same thing to thr Vikings several years ago! Me thinks not,

  7. Too bad its another 3 years before the Ravens play Chicago again. I’m sure Bisciotti would get some satisfaction out of watching his team blow out Angelo’s POS team.

  8. At first, I was behind the Ravens on this. Now they sound like spoiled little kids and need to shut the hell up.

    The people running the draft for Baltimore are PROFESSIONAL ADULTS, and need to suck up the fact that this wasn’t their first draft. They waited too long for an answer that for whatever reason wasn’t coming, and they should have been ready by making a plan B while waiting for that answer.

    They didn’t, and were caught unprepared at crunch time. THEIR fault, not Chicago’s. The Bears owe them NOTHING.

    For God’s sake, shut up already.

  9. So they droped down one spot. Did they lose the guy they wanted? If not, stop complaining. The season is months away and they’re already crying.

  10. Ha – He can join the Bears fans in his disappointment.

    Jerry takes the c and l out of class.

  11. Crap happens. Bisciotti can cry to the media all he wants, but both teams still picked the guys they wanted. No harm, no foul. It’s not like the Bears or the Ravens lost out from the screw-up.

    Personally, I thought it was the right thing for Angelo to do. He apologized, and let the league handle it. Case closed.

  12. Procedures not followed equals nothing to talk about. Best advice: Make wine with the sour grapes.

  13. So the Bears made a deal assuming Camiri would get picked by KC. They somehow figured they didn’t want Camiri all that bad so KC could take him if he wanted to. Or KC didn’t want to pick him. So they lazily made an attempt to call in a draft day trade. OOPs nobody made the call. (minion 1: “I tought you made the call… minion 2: he told you to make the call) OH well.

    The Bears made a deal, they ended up not having to honor. And they took full advantage by not honoring it. Great example Angelo.

  14. The Vikings are still waiting for their trade picks from Ozzy’s similar fiasco several years ago. Shouldn’t the Ravens own up to their own mistakes before condemning others for theirs?

  15. Don’t Da Bears read PFT? Can’t the reply with Newsome’s own words, whe he caused a similar situation?

  16. The bear’s GM admitted wrongdoing, admitted that the trade was agreed upon and that he made a mistake. Regardless of the fact that the ravens got the player they wanted, the bears messed up and should be penalized. I’m sure that Halas, if alive, would agree.

  17. The Ravens of all teams shouldn’t be opening their mouths. It was only a few years ago that the Ravens pulled the same stunt on the Vikings when the Vikings didn’t get their choice into the Commissioner on time because of a the exact scenario and when it was all said and done the Ravens Ozzie Newsome said, “a deal is only a deal when it is relayed to the Commissioner by BOTH teams” and because the Ravens failed to inform the Commissioner in their trade with the Vikings, the Ravens said, “it was NO deal”. It doesn’t matter what the two teams agreed to do, the Bears didn’t inform the Commissioner thus it as a “NO DEAL” and they have nothing to complain about. I think it is Bosciotti who has tarnished the reputation of the Ravens!!

  18. Screwed over by guys from Chicago? Nah no way that could happen. If Biscotti’s mailbox is stinking, its probably a fish from Mayor Rahmbo.

  19. If the roles were reversed and it was the Ravens who screwed up, would they give a draft pick to the Bears if the NFL didn’t force them to? Of course not. Quit your whining, Ravens.

  20. Thats funny… They did the same stuff to Minny and as Ozzie said the trade wasn’t official till he talked to the league… Now its different… How about they give Minny the pick they cost them way back when and then the Bears will follow their lead…

  21. Big shock, Bears doing something dishonest. Failure of a team and a failure of an front office.

  22. how funny the bears tarnished their legacy at least they have one
    the bears screwed you but you nimrods screwed a whole city you are right up there with le brat in cleveland so stfu

  23. It’s not so funny when you’re on the other side of the coin Ravens, is it? You did the same exact thing to the Vikings and you didn’t hear them whining about wanting one of your other picks.

    All I can say is what comes around goes around.

  24. stop whining! you both ended up with the players you wanted so quit crying,maybe if you if had not tried to stick it to them you would have got the deal done in time. why wait untill the last min. to make it. honestly everybody knows the rules and if you wait that long you run that risk. and stop with the they had another team ready to deal,if you did then you should have done it with the them instead. and as been pointed out by this site and others you did the same thing with the vikings in a past deal but that was ok?shut up and move on.

  25. mrone50 says:
    Apr 30, 2011 8:29 AM
    So the Bears made a deal assuming Camiri would get picked by KC. They somehow figured they didn’t want Camiri all that bad so KC could take him if he wanted to. Or KC didn’t want to pick him. So they lazily made an attempt to call in a draft day trade. OOPs nobody made the call. (minion 1: “I tought you made the call… minion 2: he told you to make the call) OH well.

    The Bears made a deal, they ended up not having to honor. And they took full advantage by not honoring it. Great example Angelo.

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    Nice conspiracy theory you have there. If the Bears were really lying wouldn’t they make up that the phones were busy and they couldn’t get through to the league? Oh yeah, that was the BS the Raven’s already used. And they still haven’t manned-up and issued an apology for that screw up. Like there is only 1 phone for the entire NFL office.

    When you say you aren’t going to throw anyone under the bus and then spend the next several days crying about it to anyone that will listen in the media – that makes them hypocrytical p*ssies.

  26. ejmat2 says:
    It’s not so funny when you’re on the other side of the coin Ravens, is it? You did the same exact thing to the Vikings and you didn’t hear them whining about wanting one of your other picks.

    All I can say is what comes around goes around.
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    Why is it everyone brings this up when it really has no merit on the current situation.
    FACT: As been said countless times before, the Ravens acted in good faith in the Minnesota snafu. Jacksonville effectively tied up the lines (how this can happen in today’s world is beyond me) so they could sneak in and get their man. It was an unintentional mishap.

    FACT: The Bears coveted the Ravens and made a deal. The Ravens had another possible trade proposal with another team but accepted the Bears proposal. The Bears backed out and did not honor their agreement and didn’t even have the courtesy to tell the Ravens.

    FACT: One was an unintentional mishap, while the other was an intentional backing out of a deal.

    I don’t know what should be done about all of this, and don’t care if the Ravens get a draft pick, etc.

    OPINION: The Bears should have consequences for their intentional misdeeds and dishonorable conduct. And the NFL has to catch up with the 21st century.

  27. If I were the Bears I would have offered to swap 2nd and 3rd round picks with the Ravens and give them their fourth. That would have been an olive branch – if they didn’t take it, screw ’em. …even though it was never ‘officially’ a trade and they owed the Ravens nothing.

  28. duanethomas – are you really this stupid? what the Ravens did is in no way, shape or form the same thing as the Vikings incident…..sorry. get you facts straight moron!

  29. schmedley69 – the fact is the Ravens WOULDN’T do this type of thing…why? because they are a competant organization…..unlike the Bears

  30. For all you guys who say the same thing happened with the Vikings, I think you need to google it and see that Jacksonville actually tied up the phone lines to prevent the ravens from consummating the deal. So it was a bit different a situation. But honestly, not grabbing and overpaying Leftwich probably worked out better for the Vikes.

  31. thejuddstir – moron #2

    I hope you have two brain cells enough to realize that FORGETTING to inform the league and attempting to but cannot because of technical reasons (based on infrastructure set-up BY the league) are two totally different things. Hopefully you are at least smart enough to understand this!

  32. Meanwhile, Ravens fans are disappointed their draft war room can’t figure out that, with 10 seconds on the clock, it’s time to hang up and push the button on your original plan.

  33. Bears and league somehow concluded that the Ravens weren’t harmed in that transaction. Let’s say you put dollar amount on the value of the original pick and the one below it. Well, then there were damages and the Ravens deserve to be made whole. That would be fair dealing. The Ravens will likely get something for next year when all is finally sorted. That would be a fair conclusion. Maybe there needs to be a referee present at the draft to warn teams when time is short and to make decisions instantly if/when something like this happens. Seems that ever since the Super Bowl debacle, the NFL is more like the Three Stooges. They just can’t get anything right.

  34. Goodell should step in here and mandate that the Bears cannot trade Jay Culter or barring injury, must start Cutler at QB.

    OK, it does seem like harsh punishment but it will at least serve as a deterrent for it happening again.

  35. golonger says:
    Apr 30, 2011 10:03 AM
    voxveritass – moron #3

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    Thanks. I bet you’re the Ravens most ardent season tissue holder.

  36. What no one is talking about is that this means the Ravens were not at all dead set on taking Smith there. They were willing to pull the trigger on the Chicago trade had Angelo not messed up. Interesting, considering how much everyone was swooning over the pick on TV.

  37. For all you guys who say the same thing happened with the Vikings, I think you need to google it and see that Jacksonville actually tied up the phone lines to prevent the ravens from consummating the deal.

    Yeah, because we all know that a multi-billion dollar business like the National Football League only has one phone line.

    Tell you what. . .the Bears can give the Ravens one of their picks, and the Ravens can immediately turn around and pass that pick to us. That’s really the only way this should work.

  38. Bears made the Trade and screwed it up by not doing their part, Ravens should still be handed the Bears 4th Round Pick.

    Only a Low Life with very Low Character would try and screw the Ravens out of a Deal the Bears had already agreed to because some idiot on the Bears did not do their job

  39. Ravens need to find a time when they can stick it to the bears and just do so. It will happen. Might take a few years, but revenge is a meal best served cold. If the Bears want to avoid this, they can make it right somehow, but barring this they will just have to live life waiting for the other shoe to drop. Should make a good story on PFT when it happens.

  40. Steelers fan, which means I’m not a Ravens apologist. But they did not do the same thing to the Vikes, and you can’t just invent facts to support your side. They reached a trade agreement with the Bears that Angelo didn’t report so they wouldn’t have to honor their end of the trade. It was a dirty deal that Goodell doesn’t have the cojones to resolve.

    It’s not rocket science. So what if the Ravens are whiny? Doesn’t change the fact that they’re right: Angelo is a liar, Goodell is gutless, and you make trades with the Bears at your own peril.

  41. this guy has alot of nerve to talk bad about the founding franchise of the league.

    jerry angelo has never taken advantage of anyone else, its usually been quite the opposite.

    the ravens are acting like customer at the cafe who receives 5 cents less than their original change on the receipt. Now the Ravens want to talk with the manager and a complimentary coffee.

  42. This from an organization that screwed the ENTIRE city of Cleveland?! Give me an f’n break!

  43. Guess the Bears & their fans have no problem being recognized by the rest of the NFL as not having integrity and class. A man’s word is his bond? Jerry Angelo was asked if his word was his bond after this and he said he wasn’t going to get involved in judging that.. Tell you what, most people care about what their word means & want their integrity/reputation intact. You can call it whining or whatever. We know it isn’t going to make a difference with an organization that thinks so little of honor & integrity anyway. Just shocked that this how they are portraying themselves. The pick is inconsequential at this point – the damage to Angelo & the Bears is done.

  44. Don’t get mad, get even. Just hang 50 points on them the next time you play the Bears.

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    The next time the Ravens hang 50 on somebody will be the first time the Ravens hang 50 on anybody.

  45. F the ravens. They did the same thing. The only mistake the bears made was not telling the ravens. We tried to call but the line was busy.
    Shouldn’t the ravens be thanking the bears? They got the same guy they were going to pick but will pay him less for getting him 1 draft slot lower.

  46. It’s not rocket science. So what if the Ravens are whiny? Doesn’t change the fact that they’re right: Angelo is a liar, Goodell is gutless, and you make trades with the Bears at your own peril.

    Before history said that you make trades with the Bears at your own peril, it said that you make trades with Ozzie Newsome and the Ravens at your own peril.

    It took eight years, but what goes around eventually comes around for Baltimore.

  47. echoplex89 says:
    Apr 30, 2011 11:36 AM
    this guy has alot of nerve to talk bad about the founding franchise of the league.

    jerry angelo has never taken advantage of anyone else, its usually been quite the opposite.

    the ravens are acting like customer at the cafe who receives 5 cents less than their original change on the receipt. Now the Ravens want to talk with the manager and a complimentary coffee.

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    In your scenario, the Bears would be the cafe, deliberately cheating its customers, apologizing for doing it when caught, but still keeping the money. Does integrity mean nothing?

  48. …and the Bears might as well give the Ravens those picks as well as 5 or six more……..the incompetent Bears will just waste them anyway….at least the Ravens would know and do know what to do with draft picks!!!!!

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