Maybe if he would have went with a different college instead of Ole Miss he’d know the difference between your and you’re. Apparently the tutor and Ole Miss education isn’t that valuable

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Guess your tutor didn’t do any better with the use of “have went”

false rumors fly all-day during pre-draft time…

So STFU talking about things that you have no idea about.

The guy who watches the NFL tells the guy who is actually in the NFL to STFU about thins he has no idea about, when it comes to the NFL.

And please tell me what Mcshay has to do with putting up with 10s of millions of dollar in contracts. Last I checked he does not work for an NFL team.

Guys like McShay and Kiper are just media people trying to do a job, and they generally do a respectable job and do well by the players. Michael Oher has to realize those guys are outsiders and that the players should just ignore them, he’s blowing something small completely out of proportion.
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Really? What if every day when your family opened up the newspaper or turned on the news there was someone going on and on about your supposed “character issues”. Worse yet, in many cases the supposed nature of those character issues are never openly discussed. In many cases, the most you’ll ever get is a very vague allusion to something inappropriate delivered with a wink and a nod that makes the person look like they know what’s really going on. How are the players supposed to ignore that, especially when comments like that can take on a life of their own and hurt their draft status regardless of the level of truth (if any) to the comments.

Why don’t we make it really simple? If they want to go on tv (or write in a newspaper or magazine) that a prospect has character issues, they have to describe what those issues are and give at least a shred of information that would make the accusation seem credible. No, they’d rather report salacious rumors and speculation because that gets them attention. Additionally, if they did have to make specific accusations about players, then they’d be open to slander and libel suits unless they could back them up. So much easier for them to simply refer to “character issues” than to have to actually do some research for their reports.

Oher is way off base here. McShay is saying these things, because he is paid to evaluate players. Maybe if the Ravens paid attention to that a bit more they would not have wasted a high pick on Sergio Kindle. Maybe the Titans would have realized Pacman was a waste of money, or maybe the Bucs would have heeded these character issues and not gone after Talib.
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Check your facts. Kindle didn’t get arrested or anything like that. He fell down two flights of stairs in the middle of the night and busted his head open. That’s a tragic accident, not a character flaw.

Maybe if he would have went with a different college instead of Ole Miss he’d know the difference between your and you’re. Apparently the tutor and Ole Miss education isn’t that valuable.
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Perhaps, or perhaps it has more to do with the fact that it was a twitter message with limited characters. In this case, dropping the apostrophe makes for one less character without making the message any harder to understand.

just curious lol

Mr. McShay’s job is to analyze draft prospects. Nobody that enters the NFL is a perfect person. They have all done wrong things in their life, they are human. Some have done worse things than others.

Right, it is to analyze draft prospects. In regards to Mr. Oher’s comments you overlooked that his main point was that he’s publicizing these ‘evaluations’ without actually investigating them. It seems that no one close Mr. Oher received a call or was interviewed about his character. Instead McShay tagged him with a detrimental trait that potentially hurt his and future rookies draft stocks and therefore hurt their pro future. Unfortunately it’s something that sticks with a player.

It would be different if he actually investigated these claims. Makes you wonder if he actually evaluates any player or if he just goes on what other people say. That’s why I respect Mayock so much – he sits down and gives first hand evaluations.

I happen to think these guys are pretty good. Mayock is much better though. Sorry, but guys in college who get arrested multiple times have CHARACTER issues (not applying this to Oher). Guys in college who smoke pot have character issues. Etc.

Look. I don’t pretend that NFL scouts know what they’re doing all of the time. For instance, how does Da’Quan Bowers drop to the 2nd round? Because of a knee injury he’s had and played through? Why does Mark Herzlich not even get drafted? The kid was a 1st round prospect before being diagnosed with Ewing’s Sarcoma. He missed a year. He had a VERY good, but not great, comeback season. His chances of having a relapse were put at about 2%. He’s getting stronger as time goes along. Just like they miss on a player’s on field attributes, the scouts can miss on their off field conduct too.

Kiper, McShay, and Mayock are simply “scouts” for ESPN and NFLN. None of them are the be all end all. They’re just guys who watch a lot of football and give their OPINION on players. I’d LOVE to be paid for that! To have the passion to say you hate these guys is ridiculous.

Fact is, some prospects DO have character issues coming into the draft. Did Corey Dillon have character issues? How about Christian Peter? Think the Saints would have liked to know that Ricky Williams liked smokin pot more than playin football BEFORE they traded their whole draft for him? Dez Bryant had an issue at Oklahoma State that seemed very minor after hearing the story. Yet, the character concerns came out, and he slid in the draft. Now, look at the BS he’s goin through this off season. Were the character concerns legit? Did Lawrence Phillips have character concerns? I’d say that since he bashed a female student’s head into a wall, then yeah. What about Sergio Kindle’s DUI incidents? Isn’t that a character concern? And before someone throws the race card out there, I’ll ask if the Jaguars wish they knew Matt Jones was a dealer before wasting a first round pick on him? How did GB overlook Mandarich’s obvious steroid use? How does Ryan Mallet fall to the 3rd round? Oh, he had character concerns. And, I already mentioned Christian Peter.

Throwing the character issue out there isn’t a problem as long as its put into the proper context (again, I thought Dez Bryant’s issue at OK State was a bit overblown and he shouldn’t have been suspended) and the concerns are legit (see Christian Peter). And you can thank the Len Bias situation for all of the scrutiny these prospects go through. No team had any idea about Bias’ coke use until he was dead because before that, no one checked those things out. Now they do. It’s part of the process. Too bad. If you don’t like it, then don’t get in trouble or do anything that puts your potential earnings in jeopardy.

Other than the positive drug test what “character issues” did Percy Harvin have???

Stupid Todd McS*** said that Harvin was a lot like “T.O. or Ochocinco”. In what way Todd???? Be specific you jerk!!!!!!!!!!

ESPN either assumes crap and blow it out of proportion or acts like 1 day of a bad event equals 365 days of bad events.

Well, knowing that all journalists suck at math (especially ESPN’s) they probably would think that 1= 365!!!!

McShay reminds me of the cop who wasn’t squat in high school, and once he gets his gun and badge, he thinks he is king.

yeah getting arrested for booze twice means he was probably partying too much. but i understand him failing a drug test 4 times. that stuff stays in your system for a while and with how often those kids get tested in college thats understandable. with the kids, the guy should’ve used a condom. that’s his mistake. but once he realized his potential and his coach talked to him, he stopped smoking weed, stopped partying so much, and stopped knocking girls up. so yeah i would bet a lot of money that he won’t have consistent issues throughout his career. he might slip up once or twice, but i doubt he will constantly be in trouble.

@jo3jo

he’s gotten it under control in the last 2 years and he seems fine now. he was a young and dumb kid who didn’t think he was going anywhere in life and didn’t care about whether or not he got caught, but like i said above, once his coach pointed out his potential and sat him down, he straightened up his life and has been out of trouble since.

@supashug

i use condoms, i can outrun the cops in my college town, and where did codeine come from? Jimmy only got caught with weed as far as i know. and i don’t mess around with that purple drank.

I’ll take this one. I’m glad you didn’t say Dreams From My Father, because Bill Ayers wrote that one!