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Dolphins doubt Kevin Kolb is worth the price in a trade

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When (or if) the league year eventually starts, one of the biggest stories will be whether the Eagles trade backup quarterback Kevin Kolb, where, and for what compensation. One new report indicates that if the Eagles do trade Kolb, it won’t be to Miami because the Dolphins don’t think he’s worth what the Eagles want.

Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald reports that Miami doesn’t want to trade a future No. 1 pick for Kolb when the lockout ends, which may be what the Eagles are seeking.

As one Dolphins official explained it, Kolb’s body of work consists of seven career starts, 11 touchdown passes and 14 interceptions. That doesn’t exactly scream “franchise quarterback.”

On the other hand, Kolb has two NFC Offensive Player of the Week awards in those seven starts. Not many quarterbacks have that many big games so early in their careers.

So some team is probably going to offer Philadelphia a first-round pick. It just won’t be the Dolphins.

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  1. freedomispopular says: May 11, 2011 2:36 PM

    Finally, a voice of reason! Perhaps the Dolphins’ management isn’t full of idiots after all.

  2. whathappenedtovox says: May 11, 2011 2:38 PM

    As one Dolphins official explained it, Kolb’s body of work consists of seven career starts, 11 touchdown passes and 14 interceptions. That doesn’t exactly scream “franchise quarterback.”
    ______________________________

    So in other words, Dolphins officials rely on “internet scouting,” as opposed to… you know… game tape, like any other schmuckola that comments on message boards? Solid organization down there.

  3. moolah954 says: May 11, 2011 2:39 PM

    Why do that when you have Chad “Noodle arm” Henne

  4. thereisalwaysnextyear says: May 11, 2011 2:40 PM

    Of course the Phins feel that way. Look at the last trade they made for an Eagles backup QB!!! If PFT thinks the NFL forgets what’s happened to the QB’s that the Eagles have traded and how much teams have over paid for said QB’s it would have to make one doubt how much to pay for the next QB Reid runs out of town.

  5. capslockkey says: May 11, 2011 2:40 PM

    For every “offensive player of the week” he had, he’s got twice as many turd games. One of those big games was against a terrible KC defense that made a lot of opponents offensive players of the week that year. Miami is right.

  6. capslockkey says: May 11, 2011 2:42 PM

    The same KC defense that made Brady Quinn look like an all pro for one week.

  7. myeaglescantwin says: May 11, 2011 2:42 PM

    smoke screen

    sneaky sneaky dolphins

  8. halo81 says: May 11, 2011 2:42 PM

    A team that consistently signs/trades for/drafts busts at quarterbacks giving advice on the value of quarterbacks?

    I’ll bet it also has nothing to do with the fact that the Eagles fleeced them getting a 2nd rounder for A.J. Feeley.

    The Dolphins make themselves look like complete idiots on this one.

  9. jjrs89 says: May 11, 2011 2:43 PM

    Billy Volek Jr

  10. JackLeone says: May 11, 2011 2:43 PM

    This is one of reasons the dolphins will always be behind the Pats and the Jets in that division.

  11. dietrich43 says: May 11, 2011 2:44 PM

    Kolb should hope he doesn’t go to Miami and join their list of failed QBs including A.J. Feeley, Pat White, and Duante Culpepper (instead of Drew Brees). Henne isn’t a spectacular bust, but considering they want to replace him, he’s not been a franchise QB either.

  12. amspeed13 says: May 11, 2011 2:44 PM

    Thank god. Dolphins will probably have a pretty high pick next year and would be better off keeping the pick and make a run at a top QB in the draft.

  13. krunch209 says: May 11, 2011 2:45 PM

    He wasnt drafted as a first round pick. For the most part he hasnt played like a first round pick. So he shouldnt be worth a first round pick!

  14. nyjalleffingday says: May 11, 2011 2:46 PM

    Anyone who watches Kolb play knows he’s leaps and bounds further along then Henne

  15. zoxitic says: May 11, 2011 2:46 PM

    When it comes to making decisions on QBs I trust the Dolphins. Check out these winners:

    Jay Fiedler
    Damon Huard
    Ray Lucas
    Brian Griese
    AJ Feeley
    Sage Rosenfels
    Gus Frerotte
    Daunte Culpepper
    Joey Harrington
    Cleo Lemon
    Chad Pennington
    Chad Henne

    And the decision to pass on Drew Brees was genius…….pure genius.

  16. aquanorange says: May 11, 2011 2:47 PM

    Good PR move…. By throwing this out there early, it makes it less likely that his people will make an overture to Miami front office. While he may eventually become a good QB, his body of work is slim, he’s a classic WC QB, and he looked timid as the starter last season prior to Vick’s reemergence. Bulger makes more sense from a value standpoint, since they won’t feel compelled to name him the starter if he loses the competition fair and square. With Kolb, he’d have to start, even if he’s no good, due to the price he’d command. VY is intriguing, but his best stats seems to be of the team variety(Ws & Ls). Palmer looked really old last year, and would cost a lot as well. Bulger/Henne/Brandstater should be your 3 QBs in Miami next year.

  17. sgtr0c says: May 11, 2011 2:47 PM

    HAHAHA, what does maimi dolphins know about quarterbacks? I mean except for Marino, name one other relevant quarterback from their regime. I think Kolb is still a question mark, but more of a sure thing then anyone of us knows about any the quarterbacks coming in this year from the draft. Miami might be trying to spin it so the price drops, but now, after they declared this, the price will prolly go up.

  18. phileborn says: May 11, 2011 2:47 PM

    Thank God!

  19. neilanblomi says: May 11, 2011 2:49 PM

    This would be a decent story if trades were actually allowed. Until they are WHO CARES

  20. jameswestphal says: May 11, 2011 2:49 PM

    And if anybody knows QB’s it’s the Dolphins.

  21. whathappenedtovox says: May 11, 2011 2:50 PM

    As one Dolphins official explained it, Kolb’s body of work consists of seven career starts, 11 touchdown passes and 14 interceptions. That doesn’t exactly scream “franchise quarterback.”
    _______________________________

    Michael,

    That’s not what the article says in the slightest. There’s no way that an NFL team would ever make a personnel decision based on stat lines. Never. That’s what fantasy football owners do, not NFL franchises. They watch GAME FILM and make their assessments based on what they see there.

    The body of work they’re referring to may very well be the game film, but it’s certainly not career numbers. No way. Fans look at those kinds of numbers. Some less than savvy media types look just at numbers. In this case, it’s Barry Jackson that is inserting Kolb’s career stat line, not the Dolphins.

  22. dilberry says: May 11, 2011 2:51 PM

    smart move

  23. dblockdedicated says: May 11, 2011 2:52 PM

    Philly has one of the most QB friendly systems in the NFL with Reid. Does AJ Feeley ring a bell?

  24. joemontanawasthegreatest says: May 11, 2011 2:52 PM

    They don’t run the right offense for him. He is a WC QB only.

  25. prophetic11 says: May 11, 2011 2:52 PM

    NO MORE BACK UPS FROM PHILLY

    E V E R…………..

  26. iamtalkingsolistenandlearn says: May 11, 2011 2:54 PM

    As one Dolphins official explained it, Kolb’s body of work consists of seven career starts, 11 touchdown passes and 14 interceptions. That doesn’t exactly scream “franchise quarterback.”

    ****************************************

    Would you like to review Peyton Manning’s stats in his first season starting?
    How about any hall of fame QB’s stats in his first 7 starts?

    This only shows what kind of inept personnel are within the Dolphins organization and why they will be mediocre until Ross cleans out everything and everyone and replaces them with real football people. Not the idiots from the Parcells nepotism tree.
    Do them morons think a rookie is gonna light it up in his first few starts, with a line that was average at best

  27. capslockkey says: May 11, 2011 2:55 PM

    Correction, it was Jerome Harrison running for almost 300 yards, not Quinn. I also remember some back up receiver for the Cowboys named Austin have his coming out party against that D for some ridiculous stats.

  28. realtimeeyes says: May 11, 2011 2:57 PM

    Really…so they would never take a “franchise” QB in first round? Because that player would have even less experience than Kolb. They must be willing to pass on another D Brees to get another D Culpepper.. Real smart!

  29. patssmelllikepoo says: May 11, 2011 2:57 PM

    If the Dolphins don’t like him that means he will win 3 Super-bowls and be in the Hall of Fame. Remember NFL teams do the opposite of the Dolphins and you will be successful.

  30. shaggytoodle says: May 11, 2011 2:57 PM

    I thought it would be interesting for the Dolphins to make a move for Kolb just for making the team a little more interesting with a QB that would possibly be the best passer they had since Marino.

    I wouldn’t blame the Phin’s for hanging onto thier first, if that indeed is what Philly is going to ask for. I have a hard time believing any player that has started 7 games in 4 years would be worth a 1st round pick.

  31. nineroutsider says: May 11, 2011 2:59 PM

    You mean the Dolphins don’t want the next Jay Feely? Philly is great at this game, and the Fish seem to be biting.

    Just like they didn’t want Harbaugh and then scheduled an emergency visit, Kolb will be a Dolphin; they will just have to throw an extra few million at him for downgrading him in the press beforehand.

  32. shackdelrio says: May 11, 2011 3:04 PM

    Kolb is going into his fifth season in the NFL. I doubt I could find one NFL front office person that can say what Kolb has shown that would make him a franchise QB. Hopefully some team is not dumb enough to give up anything of value for him.

  33. sirsprague says: May 11, 2011 3:08 PM

    sgtr0c says: May 11, 2011 2:47 PM

    HAHAHA, what does maimi dolphins know about quarterbacks? I mean except for Marino, name one other relevant quarterback from their regime.
    ———

    You know, I hate the Dolphins as much as any self-respecting Bills fan. But let’s think back to the 70′s, when Bob Griese was their QB. I think he qualifies as “relevant”

  34. broncfanor says: May 11, 2011 3:15 PM

    whathappenedtovox says: May 11, 2011 2:38 PM

    As one Dolphins official explained it, Kolb’s body of work consists of seven career starts, 11 touchdown passes and 14 interceptions. That doesn’t exactly scream “franchise quarterback.”
    ______________________________

    So in other words, Dolphins officials rely on “internet scouting,” as opposed to… you know… game tape, like any other schmuckola that comments on message boards? Solid organization down there.

    ______________________________

    What exactly do you see in SEVEN starts from a career backup that screams “franchise” QB or worth a first round pick?

  35. sneaky1632 says: May 11, 2011 3:19 PM

    Unless your team runs the west coast offence Kolb is not your man. Talent is talent but the west coast is such a unique system it does not translate well to other systems. (see Jeff Garcia in Cleveland)

  36. brutus9448 says: May 11, 2011 3:21 PM

    kevin kolb = jay feely 2.0

    If he was a frachize QB do you think andy reid would actually trade him?
    He might do well in a west coast offense but he’s no franchize QB.

  37. jhorton83 says: May 11, 2011 3:25 PM

    In my opinion, Kolb is worth a first round pick. He’s shown enough promise to be worth that price tag. If the Eagles are asking for anything more than that though, they’re probably delusional. Then again, there always seems to be one team out there willing to pay a ridiculous amount for a potential franchise quarterback.

  38. jhorton83 says: May 11, 2011 3:29 PM

    moolah954 says:
    May 11, 2011 2:39 PM
    Why do that when you have Chad “Noodle arm” Henne
    ————————————————–

    Henne’s problem has never been arm strength. It’s accuracy. Sometimes I watch passes from him and just wonder where the hell he was intending to throw the ball.

  39. geo1113 says: May 11, 2011 3:32 PM

    dblockdedicated says:
    May 11, 2011 2:52 PM
    Philly has one of the most QB friendly systems in the NFL with Reid. Does AJ Feeley ring a bell?

    ______________________

    A. J. Feeley was helped by having 3 Pro Bowl offensive linemen in 2002 when he filled in McNabb at the end of the year. They were a bit more balanced run/pass with Duece Staley, Dorsey Levens, and that young 3rd down back Brian Westbrook. Also, they had a very strong defense that year.

  40. shaggytoodle says: May 11, 2011 3:35 PM

    The Eagles wouldn’t have went after Vick, if they thought Kolb was going to be as great as they talk him up to be.

  41. geo1113 says: May 11, 2011 3:38 PM

    What exactly do you see in SEVEN starts from a career backup that screams “franchise” QB or worth a first round pick?
    ______________________

    What exactly did the Vikings see in Christian Ponder that screams #12 pick in the draft. At least Kolb has been player of the week twice in those SEVEN starts.

  42. realitypolice says: May 11, 2011 3:39 PM

    I have an idea! Let’s trade for a QB the Eagles don’t want anymore! It’s worked so well in the past!

    I’m sorry, but when a team has a starting QB who is an above average injury risk, which I would say Vick is because of his reckless playing style, and they are still willing to trade the only other QB on their roster with any experience at all, that’s a red flag.

  43. dclogicatlast says: May 11, 2011 3:40 PM

    shackdelrio says:
    May 11, 2011 3:04 PM
    Kolb is going into his fifth season in the NFL. I doubt I could find one NFL front office person that can say what Kolb has shown that would make him a franchise QB. Hopefully some team is not dumb enough to give up anything of value for him.

    ———————

    How about having the best regular season game of any QB against the #1 seeded Falcons? You have to admit that at least showed a flash.

  44. atmedic8daily says: May 11, 2011 3:40 PM

    Kolb is def worth a 1st rd pick. Some QBs can hang & some can’t, he has shown he’ll be just fine. He’ll be better than most 1st rd QBs. But the Fins should send their 1st for Palmer

  45. blkmanwtan says: May 11, 2011 3:46 PM

    The problem I have with Kolb is that he was with Philadelphia since 2007 and couldn’t beat out McNabb for the starting job. McNabb had to be traded for him to be GIVEN the starting job. Before McNabb was traded, the Eagles signed Michael Vick to a 2 year contract to be a back-up.

    Kevin Kolb lost the starting job to Vick,a QB that was in the system 2 less years than he was and was out of the game in prison for 2 years.

    Is Kevin Kolb worth a first round pick? No. IMO he still needs a lot of work. He leaves the pocket before the pocket is formed, he leads his receivers into defenders, and finally, he is lousy at recognizing the blitz.

  46. 8drinkminimum says: May 11, 2011 3:47 PM

    Kolb is not worth a first round pick to any team that needs a qb.

  47. geo1113 says: May 11, 2011 3:47 PM

    shaggytoodle says:
    May 11, 2011 3:35 PM
    The Eagles wouldn’t have went after Vick, if they thought Kolb was going to be as great as they talk him up to be.
    ________________

    Apples and oranges. Vick gave them a lot of flexibility. Besides, who would make a better #3 QB.

  48. aquanorange says: May 11, 2011 3:49 PM

    “sgtr0c says: May 11, 2011 2:47 PM

    HAHAHA, what does maimi dolphins know about quarterbacks? I mean except for Marino, name one other relevant quarterback from their regime. I think Kolb is still a question mark, but more of a sure thing then anyone of us knows about any the quarterbacks coming in this year from the draft. Miami might be trying to spin it so the price drops, but now, after they declared this, the price will prolly go up.”

    Yes, getting David Woodley to lead you to a SB is an illustration of incompetence in the preparation of QBs. So is having backups like Earl Morrall and Don Strock in place for Plan B. Further, the reason the list is short is due to the long careers of their 2 HOF QBs.

  49. geo1113 says: May 11, 2011 3:49 PM

    I’m sorry, but when a team has a starting QB who is an above average injury risk, which I would say Vick is because of his reckless playing style, and they are still willing to trade the only other QB on their roster with any experience at all, that’s a red flag.
    __________________________

    So then keep Kolb and let him walk at the end of the year (if there is a year) and get nothing in return?

  50. geo1113 says: May 11, 2011 3:54 PM

    McNabb had to be traded for him to be GIVEN the starting job.
    _________________

    You do realize that the Eagles would have received more for Kolb in a trade than they did for McNabb.

  51. mykelane says: May 11, 2011 3:59 PM

    As a Eagles fan, anyone willing to give up a 1st rounder is pure stupid. Kolb’s six starts…(he couldnt even finish the 7th against GB)..he’s 3-3 with wins against KC, San Fran and ATL, and losses against NO, TEN and Dallas’ second string.

    The guy is just another Andy Reid QB who’s a system qb, that once traded, produces very little. See Feely and McNabb if you need examples. McNabb was finally exposed for his laziness and lack of preparation needed at the QB position.

  52. whathappenedtovox says: May 11, 2011 4:03 PM

    @broncfanor
    What exactly do you see in SEVEN starts from a career backup that screams “franchise” QB or worth a first round pick?
    _____________________________

    I’m not here to sell anyone on Kolb, bud. I’m just saying that I’m might actually… you know… watch the guy play instead of looking at his stat line and saying “Nah.”

  53. macjacmccoy says: May 11, 2011 4:07 PM

    Or they are possibly trying to smoke screen other teams. Who knows.

    What I do know is if the Eagles dont get a number 1 for him or a player/pick package that is equal or greater to a first rounder then I dont want the Eagles to trade him at all.

    First off I think he will be a franchise qb. And you do not trade away a franchise qb who is just entering his prime unless the compensation reflects that. No matter what the situation is.

    Secondly with the way Vick plays the qb position there is a high likely hood that he will miss some time this season do to injury. Im willing to face the reality that the Eagles will have to rely on Mike Kafka or a veteran they bring in after trading Kolb if I know the reward was worth that risk.

    Thirdly having Michael Vick as your only legimate starting caliber qb is only sensible if you got good compensation for Kolb. Vick looked like a whole different qb last year. He learned how to read routes and coverages better, he learned how to trust his teammates and to be more patient, he learned how to stay and throw ot of the pocket, and he learned how to make all together better decisions, we think. All of those things were true in the first half of the season but towards the end he seemed to take a few steps back. He didnt compeletely revert to his old self but in some cases he did. He started holding on to the ball for to long and trying to do to much which led to sacks that no other qb would take. He started forcing passes to covered recievers which led to turnovers, drive killing incompletions, and his recievers getting hit way to hard and way to often. He started losing his spacing discipline which led to a very high number of sacks and batted balls. Even with those problems surfacing he was still a better and more complete qb the he ever was. But did he show the Eagles enough to give them the confidence to trade away a future franchise qb (in there opinion) at a time when they believe they have the talent to compete for a title for years to come(which will be Kolbs prime years)? Probably but only if they get what they believe Kolb is worth.

    Come on if I was able to realize these things then Andy Reid and co. have definitely noticed them and went over it from every angle. They know the risk that come along with Michael Vick more then anyone. So who ever thinks that they would risk jeopardizing the 2011 season by keeping Vick as there only legitimate starter and trading Kolb for anything less then what they want for him doesnt know the Eagles.

    They will keep Kolb for the insurance he brings and risk the franchise tag going away and not being able to get any compensation for him next season before they trade him away for less then what they think hes worth. Honestly even if the insurance he brings to the Eagles wasnt a factor they would probably keep him out of spite to prove a point. Andy Reid is stubborn like that and it hurts the team sometimes but in this case I think it would be an asset. It would show teams that they are willing to take a stand for there beliefes and next year if they can franchise Kolb some qb needy team that didnt offer what the Eagles wanted and suffered all last year with out a qb might be more willing to meet the Eagles asking price after realizing that they will take a stand if they have to.

    My Point is trading Kolb is not set in stone. Which I like. If the Eagles dont get the value they want for Kolb then they would be better off keeping him. Kolbs talent, the chance of being able to franchise tag him next year and the uncertainty that surrounds Vick is plenty enough reason to keep the guy around. IMO a 1st round pick and a conditional pick that can be worth anything from a 3rd rounder to nothing ,depending on what slot that first round pick falls in (1-32), is where the negotiations should begin. Anything less then that and I would hope that the Eagles would tell teams that they are not interested and would rather keep Kolb then trade for that.

  54. blkmanwtan says: May 11, 2011 4:11 PM

    @geo1113
    “You do realize that the Eagles would have received more for Kolb in a trade than they did for McNabb.”

    ________________________

    I know the Eagles will receive more for Kolb in a trade than McNabb. What I am saying is that he isn’t worth a 1st round pick. He was given the starting position and then lost it to Vick. He has had plenty of times to prove himself and he hasn’t taken advantage of it. I wouldn’t want to waste a 1st rounder on a guy who doesn’t have a winning attitude.

  55. granadafan says: May 11, 2011 4:16 PM

    Considering the bust rate for 1st round draft picks on unknowns, it’s better to use a high pick on a known and proven player. The Raiders got Richard Seymour for a 1st round pick, which might have been used on the next Jawalrus Russell type player knowing the Raiders’ recent history.

  56. phinfan says: May 11, 2011 4:16 PM

    11 touchdown passes and 14 interceptions.

    Are you sure thats not chad henne’s stats?

  57. kdinero says: May 11, 2011 4:25 PM

    moolah954 says:
    May 11, 2011 2:39 PM
    Why do that when you have Chad “Noodle arm” Henne

    “Noodle Arm” . . . if you don’t know what your talking about refrain from commenting next time.

  58. dant10 says: May 11, 2011 4:26 PM

    @macjacmccoy
    You said it man. Its kind of a win win for the birds, they either get a 1st rounder and more, or get to keep Kolb who, despite my bias of being an eagles fan, is a great QB and is only going to get better. Nice name by the way haha representing the young guns!!

  59. shackdelrio says: May 11, 2011 4:30 PM

    I can only think the people on this thread saying Kolb is a franchise QB that would be worth a first round pick are Eagles fans.

  60. arzcardinals says: May 11, 2011 4:37 PM

    We in AZ will be happy to send you are next years 1st. Nothing more.

    Kolb in AZ

  61. Land Snark says: May 11, 2011 4:39 PM

    I love reading these posts of people who think Kolb isn’t worth a 1st round pick.

    You don’t have a clue. But that’s to be expected.

    There was another promising but unproven QB who was #2 to Vick.

    His “stat line” was an underwhelming 52.2% completion 6 TDs and 6 INTs. He was traded to the Texans and now 4 seasons later has a 65.5% completion avg. with 77 TDs and 46 INTs with 2 seasons of 4400+ yards passing.

    Is Kolb another Schaub? No. But he’d do just fine throwing to Marshall, Hartline and Fasano. The kid has a decent arm and would be a sight better than anything they’ve trotted out since Marino retired.

  62. kingjoe1 says: May 11, 2011 5:07 PM

    I love the folks who think a 1st rounder is too much. Every franchise in the NFL has taken a qb in the first round, the percentage of success is quite low. Kolb, while he may not be Peyton Manning has shown that he does not look overwhelmed when he is out there. He has a strong accurate arm and is a mature 26. So all of these make him much less of a risk than most QB’s taken in the first round.
    Too many GM’s act like the far too many stupid fantasy sports players, they like finding the GEM; likely to promote their own careers. Stable GMs do a better job because they are looking for players, not something to put on their resume. Jeff Ireland pick Pat White with a 2nd round pick, simply on the basis that could get diamond in the rough. How did that work out?
    Kolb is a far better investment with a 1st round pick than most of the first round picks this year, maybe even ALL of them.

  63. lanjoith says: May 11, 2011 5:31 PM

    They passed on Brees at the end of the 1st round in ’01 then passed on him again in free agency in ’06. They passed on Matt Ryan a couple years ago and didn’t draft a QB this year even though there were some quality ones available.

    Makes you think that Kolb will go on to be a superstar for which ever team trades for him.

  64. mrrmiyagi says: May 11, 2011 5:40 PM

    Not that I’m the biggest Kolb fan, but when Chad Henne is your starting QB and there’s nobody else with a decent arm behind him (my daughter could throw a frisbee farther than Pennington throw a football), talking trash about a real QB just doesn’t make you look all that smart.

  65. december77 says: May 11, 2011 6:26 PM

    Good, then stick with Henne and win nothing next year. With Henne, they won’t be winning anything for a while. Just a perpetual state of rebuilding. For Kolb’s sake, I hope he doesn’t end up in Miami.

  66. DarthHoodie says: May 11, 2011 6:30 PM

    Hey Mister Heckert : Why not the Browns ? You have two first round picks and you drafted him in Philly ?

  67. geo1113 says: May 11, 2011 6:54 PM

    @blkmanwtan

    I know the Eagles will receive more for Kolb in a trade than McNabb. What I am saying is that he isn’t worth a 1st round pick. He was given the starting position and then lost it to Vick. He has had plenty of times to prove himself and he hasn’t taken advantage of it. I wouldn’t want to waste a 1st rounder on a guy who doesn’t have a winning attitude.
    ___________________

    The Eagles would have received more for Kolb last year than they received for McNabb. If they thought McNabb was a better option than Kolb, then they would have traded Kolb. As for losing his job to Vick, I disagree. I would say Vick took it from his.

    Now you may not think he is worth a 1st and that is ok. But I have never heard anyone in the know suggest does not have a winning attitude.

  68. thefiesty1 says: May 11, 2011 11:06 PM

    What? The Fins actually figured this one out. Kolb has only started 7 games. Kolb isn’t worth the kind of money he wants.They should have taken Dalton in the draft. They can’t get Palmer (no thanks to Mike Brown) this year so they are now stuck another year with Henne.

  69. macjacmccoy says: May 12, 2011 12:37 AM

    dant10 says:
    May 11, 2011 4:26 PM
    You said it man. Its kind of a win win for the birds, they either get a 1st rounder and more, or get to keep Kolb who, despite my bias of being an eagles fan, is a great QB and is only going to get better. Nice name by the way haha representing the young guns!!

    Thank ya sir …. yea Eagles are in a good spot and they dont have to trade him like every seems to believe. He would still have a ton of value either with the team or in a trade next year if the tag exists….. I know I got repetitive I know I got repetitive (<— Joke) and rambled on way to much but that tends to happen after you ingest 40 oz of Red Bull.

  70. fflnick says: May 12, 2011 3:41 AM

    Considering the Dolphins track record of developing qbs, Kevin Kolb will be very happy NOT to go there.

    When was the last time the Dolphins had any success developing a qb.
    Dan Marino was a long time ago!

    They clearly have not demonstrated they have the structural organizational ability to develop one.
    You can’t blame all the lack of success on AJ Feeley trade.
    Feeley chances of becoming a good starting qb diminished once he was traded to Miami.

    List of starting qbs since Dan Marino retired…
    Chad Henne
    Chad Pennington
    Tyler Thigpen
    Cleo Lemon
    Trent Green
    John Beck
    Joey Harrington
    Daunte Culpepper
    Gus Frerotte
    A.J. Feeley
    Jay Fiedler
    Sage Rosenfels
    Brian Griese
    Ray Lucas
    Damon Huard

  71. realphinsfan says: May 15, 2011 9:35 PM

    Noodle Arm is Pennington. EPIC fail on your part bro. Henne has never lacked arm strength.

    Henne isn’t even the biggest hole on their team right now. Interior o-line is. When we could run the ball, Henne looked great. We couldn’t run last season and Henne was only a piece in a big failing puzzle that began with Dan Henning.

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