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Elway: “It is hard to tell” if Orton and Tebow will be on Week One roster

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Broncos executive John Elway doesn’t seem to mind those Kyle Orton trade rumors that are floating around.

Speaking on Sirius XM radio Tuesday, Elway said it is “hard to tell” if both Tim Tebow and Kyle Orton will be on the team’s roster in Week One.

We don’t want to give anything away, but Tebow will be there.  That leaves Orton, who Elway says will compete with Tebow and Brady Quinn for playing time in training camp.

Elway pointed out via Lindsay Jones of the Denver Post that the new coaching staff hasn’t even seen the players in action live, so it’s too early to assume anything.  His comments make it sound like Orton will be available.

Like everything, Denver’s situation is lockout dependent. Let’s say teams only get 2-3 weeks to prepare for the season.   Orton would seemingly have a better chance of sticking around in that scenario.

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  1. benh999 says: May 11, 2011 9:20 AM

    Good idea — trade away your best quarterback. Or better yet, make it simpler and just release him. Genius!

  2. pacstud says: May 11, 2011 9:28 AM

    lol if Tebow has to start for that team…

    In games that matter.

  3. 305hurricane says: May 11, 2011 9:33 AM

    Google translate Elwayish>English….”Kyle Orton is up for bid, seeking defensive players and or draft picks”.

  4. NFL Football Now says: May 11, 2011 9:33 AM

    2-3 weeks to prepare for the season would definitely hurt the quality of the games, and probably more players.

  5. rocketdogsports says: May 11, 2011 9:41 AM

    Kyle Orton needs to start somewhere in the NFL. He is a proven and time tested commodity who will provide leadership and talent to any one of a number of teams. Additionally, he can be had for a more reasonable price than Kolb adding to his upside. Teams like AZ shoould be very interested as he brings long term success to their offense while not interfering with the overall development of the Cardinals when compared to Kolb in terms of draft picks, players needed to secure his services.

    Denver is commiting their future to Tebow. Orton will be a successful QB in one of 31 other locations in 2011.

  6. pftbillsfan says: May 11, 2011 9:42 AM

    Blah Blah Blah, I’m probably going to trade Orton, but I’m smarter than all of you who can see through this not so clever ruse. Hopefully this drives up the price for a second tier qb who benefited from McDaniels.

  7. wenwon says: May 11, 2011 9:44 AM

    orton has won everywhere he’s been, we’ll take him in san francisco…

  8. tombradyswig says: May 11, 2011 9:47 AM

    Orton>Tebow or Quinn, any day, hands down!!

  9. stonedwhitetrash says: May 11, 2011 9:47 AM

    Little Timmie will take control of the Broncos and lead them to six Super Bowls All things are possible with the miracle boy.

  10. broncfanor says: May 11, 2011 9:50 AM

    This isn’t news. Even Orton knows he is available via trade.

    Everyone knows Orton is NOT who Denver wants for the long term. They want a franchise QB who will be there for 12-15 years.

    Nobody knows if Tebow can or will be that guy but they all know Orton is not.

    They also know Orton only has one year on his contract so they could either play him which has no real upside and then let him go for nothing or they can trade him and get something out of it.

  11. vahawker says: May 11, 2011 9:55 AM

    Is Orton not living up to his potential or has his potential been overstated?

  12. touchdownroddywhite says: May 11, 2011 10:09 AM

    broncfanor -

    That is actually the most reasonable argument I have seen yet for the Broncos lack of love for Orton.

    Guy still will end his career with more wins than Tebow

  13. footballking5 says: May 11, 2011 10:24 AM

    Orton is a serviceable quarterback but he is not a championship quarterback. Everytime the game is on the line he falls over because someone breathed on him or turns the ball over. He isnt athletic enough to make plays. People might say if he had a defense he could win one. How did that work out in Chicago? I remember they had a good defense but once again no championship.

    If you want to win 8-10 games Orton is your man but if you want to win a super bowl look somewhere else.

    You have to go with Tebow because you dont know what you have in him. With Orton you do, you know what his ceiling is. If Tebow is a failure we will be drafting for a QB and have a shot at Andrew Luck or one of the other top QBs next year but with Tebow there is the possibility that he wins just like he has done everywhere else in his life.

  14. polegojim says: May 11, 2011 10:24 AM

    Give Orton his due – he’s won games and will rarely lose a game for you.

    But…that’s it. Period.

    He’s not a ‘win’ leader. He’s a ‘not lose’ leader.

    The Bronco’s need a more proactive approach to winning at QB and yes, Tebow gives them that.
    Excitement, energy, drive. He’ll make mistakes, but will do some great things in the process.

    Tebow haters suffer from Jesus-Phobia. This is about football.

    Get some professional help during the week, and watch Tebow beat you on Sunday.

  15. Slackmo says: May 11, 2011 10:28 AM

    Orton is no Elway, but Elway is no Mike Thompson.

  16. goawayeverybody says: May 11, 2011 10:43 AM

    Orton is a better passer. But it seems Tebow is going to become the face of the franchise. Orton will be a starter in Seattle, Arizona, San Fran, Washington, or Miami. One of those five.

  17. robcypher says: May 11, 2011 10:56 AM

    polegojim – funny, I was going to say that Tebow supporters have a cultlike mentality about them.

    Get some professional help yourself, my friend…you’re going to need it after your “messiah” goes 5-11 this year, if he manages to even play all of those games.

  18. thefiesty1 says: May 11, 2011 11:14 AM

    It won’t matter which one doesn’t make the roster. All three need to go. In Tebow’s case, just go away.

  19. hoosierfin says: May 11, 2011 11:16 AM

    As a lifelong Dolphin fan, I would like to see the Fins go after Orton over any other QB that is “available”. I would to see another Purdue QB playing for the Fins. We “missed” out on Brees … Twice.

    While Orton may not be the next Dan Marino, I think he can be the next Bob Griese which is not to shabby. Griese was a great QB but he was not Dan Marino. He didn’t have to be because he was surrounded with a solid O-line, outstanding backs and receivers and the “No-Name” defense. He needed to be smart, accurate and a game manager.
    I think Orton possesses those same attributes.

    While the defense is getting close to being a standout D, the O and the STs have a few more holes to fill in order to just be consistent. Adding Orton would go a long way in improving the O. Also, wasn’t Orton throwing passes to Marshall when Marshall broke the single game record in receptions?

  20. kyleortonsarm says: May 11, 2011 12:15 PM

    Orton is fine where he is. If the team would’ve had a top 15 defense he would have won a majority of the games each season.

  21. thewizardsrevenge says: May 11, 2011 12:17 PM

    Orton carries some blame for pissing away that 6-0 start a couple years ago.

    Sub par in the leadership department.

  22. ag85 says: May 11, 2011 12:23 PM

    footballking5 says:
    May 11, 2011 10:24 AM
    Orton is a serviceable quarterback but he is not a championship quarterback. Everytime the game is on the line he falls over because someone breathed on him or turns the ball over. He isnt athletic enough to make plays. People might say if he had a defense he could win one. How did that work out in Chicago? I remember they had a good defense but once again no championship.

    If you want to win 8-10 games Orton is your man but if you want to win a super bowl look somewhere else.
    ________________________________
    what an ignorant statement…. I may be mistaken but I remember that season well, Orton was a rookie and helped that Bears team reach the playoffs.. Sexy Rexy then stepped in during the playoff run and it was GROSSMAN that lost the superbowl

    Orton CAN win games, I think he’s more than just a stop-gap QB

    and no, I’m not a Bears or Broncos fan

  23. pkrlvr says: May 11, 2011 12:48 PM

    Damn PFT…I see far worse junk make it up. Why in the hell do you keep pulling my posts??

    Polegojim, people don’t like Tebow because he’s unnecessarily and overtly religious which does not belong in football. Generally speaking, the more someone throws their religion in your face, the more of a POS they are.

  24. FinFan68 says: May 11, 2011 12:54 PM

    Orton is a good QB. He’s just not a great QB. He plays smart and rarely kills his team with stupid mistakes. He has the talent to flourish in several systems…Miami, Jets (SB team with Orton), San Fran, Detroit, Washington to name a few. His issue will be that some teams he is a good fit for already have QBs they want…just like his current team. Kolb is overrated and Orton provides more stability. My guess would be Washington or Miami. OK Miami is wishful thinking (Henne neeeds to be pushed)

  25. winkeroni says: May 11, 2011 1:37 PM

    If they are going to trade a qb, Orton makes the most sense. Orton should be available and may be cheaper and more proven than Kolb.

  26. notacareintheworld says: May 11, 2011 2:03 PM

    Orton, have you met my friend Steve DeBerg?

  27. wiridley says: May 11, 2011 2:12 PM

    I was a Broncos season ticket holder for all of the Elway years. Most people don’t remember how clueless he was for the first 3-4 years of his career. There werer also questions about his throwing mechanics when he came out of Stanford. Give Tebow a chance before declaring him dead on arrival.

  28. purdueman says: May 11, 2011 2:33 PM

    goawayeverybody says:
    May 11, 2011 10:43 AM
    Orton is a better passer. But it seems Tebow is going to become the face of the franchise. Orton will be a starter in Seattle, Arizona, San Fran, Washington, or Miami. One of those five.
    **************************
    As the old poker adage goes, “You gotta know when to hold ‘em, when to fold ‘em”, and that’s never been more apt than it is now with respect to Orton’s market value.

    With the Eagles reportedly seeking a ransom like return for Kolb, Orton’s value has never been higher, especially given the unprecedented teams who are either seeking a new starting QB of an interim veteran to bring one of their inexperienced new draft picks along.

    Orton admittedly runs like he’s wearing concrete shoes, but he can take a hit, minimized turnovers and provides veteran leadership. He’ll never be a top echelon QB, but he’s a damn site better than the likes of who Miami, Buffalo, Tennessee, San Francisco, Minnesota and Buffalo are set to run out there next season.

    For all you Orton naysayers out there, has it ever occurred to you that if Orton was truly a “franchise QB” that his name wouldn’t be coming out in trade rumors? Franchise QB’s though are usually untouchable, but that doesn’t mean that at least a quarter to a third of the league’s teams wouldn’t be upgraded with Orton as their starting QB.

    As for Tebow becoming the new face of the Denver franchise (which frankly really hasn’t had one since old Horseface Elway retired)? That will never happen. The new face of the Denver franchise will be that of a son of a Jewish Carpenter who got crucified on a cross some 2000 years ago!

  29. Eternal Optimist says: May 11, 2011 5:01 PM

    At least give Orton a break for the Chicago years. I was witness to a multitude of times where he was bringing the Bears back in a game only to see one of the alleged pro wide receivers (see “Hester, Devin – Kick Returner”) make the wrong cut or fail to pick up on the blitz. Instead of firing the GM for making poor personnel decisions, Kyle was made the scapegoat.

  30. jaypace says: May 11, 2011 5:14 PM

    It was also grossman who was the starter for the bears when they went to the super bowl. The year before orton got pulled because the offense did nothing. Rex was supposed to be the starter that year but got hurt. Rex took the bears to the super bowl, orton didn’t. The guy who said orton will get you 8-10 is right hes an average NFL qb. That’s no insult he is who he is

  31. phutch877 says: May 11, 2011 5:21 PM

    As a Boiler and fan of Purdue football since Ron DeGravio (before Bob Greise) I have seen a lot of NFL QBs come out of Purdue. Orton broke some of Drew Brees’s records at Purdue, and the comment about Greise (Bob) was right on the mark. Orton is just a winner and was not given nearly the chance by the Bears that those other goofs were. I thought that a tandem of Orton and Hanie looked to have a bright future of developed and if a decent O line was built. And you can have Cutler. He didn’t look as good as Orton behind a bad O line.

  32. mogogo1 says: May 11, 2011 5:21 PM

    Orton is the only QB they have worth anything in a trade. Teams wouldn’t give a jug of Gatorade for Quinn and Tebow is too unproven and unsound mechanically to give up anything of great value, even though he has the biggest potential upside of any of them. There won’t be any in-between with him. He’s either going to make it big or be out of the league in the next 3 years.

  33. purdueman says: May 11, 2011 6:12 PM

    During Orton’s Bear years his receivers (especially Moose Mohammad), were notorious for dropping balls that hit them square in the numbers. Rashied Davis was another one of those guys too. Davis is still around only because he’s a very good special teamer.

    As for Grossman? His biggest problem is that he’s too short (can’t see over his linemen), and never learned how to roll out the way Brees does.

    Anytime Grossman got pressured by the Bears by a blitz or a breakdown in blocking, he just went flat back on his heels and threw a wing and a prayer. That’s what EARNED him the nickname of: “Bad Rex”!

  34. Spencer says: May 11, 2011 6:59 PM

    ANY veteran quarterback with a 3 win record is going to lose their job, and rightly so. Orton had two seasons in Denver and he hasn’t delivered. If anyone knows quarterbacks, John Elway does, and he’s not going to make a sentimental decision. It’s a business, and the Broncos need to see what the team is really going to have in Tebow next season. The Broncos are rebuilding anyway. If Tebow doesn’t show enough, they’ll get another quarterback. It’s that simple.

  35. purdueman says: May 11, 2011 7:08 PM

    mogogo1 says:
    May 11, 2011 5:21 PM
    Orton is the only QB they have worth anything in a trade. Teams wouldn’t give a jug of Gatorade for Quinn and Tebow is too unproven and unsound mechanically to give up anything of great value, even though he has the biggest potential upside of any of them. There won’t be any in-between with him. He’s either going to make it big or be out of the league in the next 3 years.
    ***********************************
    mogo… I largely agree with everything you say except that I wouldn’t give up even a jug of Gatorade for Quinn; maybe an old jock strap, but that’s about it.

    You left out one thing too in your comparison of the current QB’s on the Bronco’s roster; with Tebow you also (supposedly), get Jesus Christ on your team too! Get used to it, as virtually every other sentence out of Timmy’s mouth is all about Jesus (just glad he’s not the QB on my team; hearing that b.s. all time would drive me positively nuts!).

    As for phut…’s comments above, I too have been a big Boiler fan, but I only go back to the days of Bob Griese (who got his civil engineering degree along with my brother the same graduating year).

    I disagree though that the Bears gave up on Kyle too soon. How many times have we seen it take a second and sometimes even third team before a QB truly blossoms (for example, Kurt Warner).

    Orton was doomed in Chicago because of the way he was thrown into the breach when Grossman went down early in his rookie year and the Bears were only focused on him “managing the game” and “not making mistakes”. Chicago’s a tough football town, and once you get that kind of a rep, it’s virtually impossible to shake it; it was in both Kyle’s as well as the Bears best interests for him to move on.

    Denver isn’t the right place for him though either IMO. I think that of the teams actively seeking a new veteran starting QB (either for the long term or as an interim solution until one of their high draft pick youngsters develop), Buffalo (Kyle can handle the cold), Arizona or the Vikings (because of Adrian Peterson’s presence), would be the best fits.

    No, Kyle’s never going to be a top echelon QB, but he’s a heck of a lot better than what many teams are planning to trot out there this upcoming season (if of course there is one).

  36. robcypher says: May 12, 2011 3:12 AM

    lol, what is with the mass of Tebow fans on this site? You can tell they’re lurking on here, waiting to hear the latest word from their “chosen one”…and “disliking” any comment that dares insinuate that Lil’ Timmy is anything less than superhuman.

  37. purdueman says: May 12, 2011 12:00 PM

    Spencer says:
    May 11, 2011 6:59 PM
    ANY veteran quarterback with a 3 win record is going to lose their job, and rightly so. Orton had two seasons in Denver and he hasn’t delivered.
    *****************
    Clearly this is a very frustrated Bronco fan, but this post (not the person posting it), is also dumb! I don’t care if Payton Manning or New Englands Butt-chin Tom were QB’ing the Bronco’s last year… football is still a TEAM game. Either one of those QB’s MIGHT have gotten the Bronco’s to 5 wins, but that’s about it.

    Spencer, the bottom line is that you can’t win with just one star player who’s surrounded by a lot of garbage. Orton also didn’t start every Bronco game either last season; Dr. Jesus (Tebow), got the starts at the end of the season.

    The bottom line though is that there’s an old and proved football saying: “A team who has two QB’s has none”, that applies here. Clearly Dr. Jesus isn’t going anywhere, so the Bronco’s need to cut Kyle loose (as Kyle has zero interest in wet nursing Dr. Jesus).

  38. jasonkromka says: May 12, 2011 2:08 PM

    Bleacher Report has published this story with the headline:

    “Elway’s Comments Hint at Orton’s Departure”.

    Yet, said story reads “Speaking on Sirius XM radio Tuesday, Elway said it is “hard to tell” if both Tim Tebow and Kyle Orton will be on the team’s roster in Week One.”

    Clearly the above statement from Elway indicates that Orton will be traded.

    Hey Bleacher Report, that’s some fine detective work.

  39. purdueman says: May 12, 2011 2:47 PM

    Everyone’s overlooking the obvious with respect to the Bronco’s current QB dilemma.

    I’m convinced that Elway realizes that Dr. Jesus (Tebow), is too green to simply hand the team over to and that Orton should be moved because he’s not what Elway is ultimately looking for in a QB (JMO, but I think that being in the AFC West you need a QB with better mobility than Kyle has).

    In addition, Orton clearly doesn’t want any part of being a chaperon to wet nurse Dr. Jesus either.

    So what’s the answer? Simple. I’m betting that Elway has a plan to trade Orton, but then bring in another veteran QB to start and mentor Tebow. I think that FA Matt Hasselback would be a good fit.

    Given Hasselback’s age, he’s not likely to balk at being the “interim veteran starter”. It’s a win-win for Denver too, because they likely can pick up a 2nd round draft pick for Orton, develop their QB of the future and sign an interim veteran starter without having to give up any draft picks in return.

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