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Goodell on NFL shutdown rumor: “We’re considering a variety of alternatives”

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NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell appeared on PFT Live Wednesday to address a variety of issues, including the rumors flying of a complete NFL shutdown if the lockout was lifted.

His response to Florio was very interesting:

“Mike, the only thing I’m going to say in regards to any of these rumors, there’s all kinds of reports, is that we’re considering a variety of different alternatives based on the court decisions. We’ll have to do that, and we are prepared to do that, and we are going through that process,” Goodell said.

That type of answer is a great reminder that we really have no idea where this work stoppage is headed.  We’ll have more from Goodell’s interview throughout the day.

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69 Responses to “Goodell on NFL shutdown rumor: “We’re considering a variety of alternatives””
  1. urfinished says: May 11, 2011 12:40 PM

    I think we are due for the latest “10 Things You Need to Know about the Current Lockout”.
    When are we going to know if the lockout is lifted?

  2. joetoronto says: May 11, 2011 12:43 PM

    If they really want this problem to go away for good, they have to shut it down.

    Otherwise, they’ll be right back where they are in a few years.

  3. thephantomstranger says: May 11, 2011 12:43 PM

    If they shut down the NFL they may as well shut it down for good. Minnesota can try to attract a UFL team to Arden Hills.

  4. bubbabart says: May 11, 2011 12:43 PM

    We’re not sure how we are going to screw the fans…but rest assured, we are!

  5. airraid77 says: May 11, 2011 12:45 PM

    what everybody needs to remember is that goodell is only a figurehead. He is getting his salary from the same place the players. he is going to do and say what the owners tell him to say and do…and for 10 million dollars a year, so would I.

  6. hawkeye6 says: May 11, 2011 12:49 PM

    Are we going to get one of these reports per day?

    “We’re reporting that there is nothing to report.”

  7. iamtalkingsolistenandlearn says: May 11, 2011 12:51 PM

    Shut it down Roger.

    Do just like the NHL did. Shut it down for a year till the players buckled and cried uncle. The players accepted pay cuts, a lower top pay ceiling, and reduced benefits. Now the league is doing better than ever. The players know they are employees and not “partners”.

    BTW, you don’t see hockey players wearing their pants on the ground, wearing gold teeth, or hear about them getting arrested daily.

    The sooner you put these menaces on society in their place Roger, the better off you will be, the league will be, and the public will be. These are not “partners”, these are just rogues, who are easily replaceable with the next draft class.

  8. lovesportsandsurfing says: May 11, 2011 12:52 PM

    I will say this again for you doubters,..there will be no NFL in 2011, this has been planned for three years…ownership went into deep discussions with the NHL, how much it benefitted them,..the NHL is now better then ever, the owners are doing better then ever,..so the NFL owners will eat the season, and get an amazing deal starting in 2012, they know 99% of you will buy your season tix again,..Im in the 1%…but know this, no NFL in 2011,..not a chance.

  9. lucky5934 says: May 11, 2011 12:53 PM

    It’s amazing that both sides are so stubborn to potentially lose everything. It’s no longer a battle of wills. It is humiliation at its finest. Because business’s everywhere will laugh in amazement at how two sides couldn’t agree to share the revenue of a 9 Billion dollar industry (and growing). If their was ever a perfect example for the saying “Don’t cut off your nose to spite your face”, then this is it.

  10. bhindenemylines says: May 11, 2011 12:53 PM

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but it sounds that what he is effectively saying is that “We don’t care what the judge says. If he rules against us we might just shut down everything because we can”.

    Great attitude from the owners.

    Appears to me all the players want to do is get back in and get ready for the season, and all the owners want to do is shut everything down until they get their way.

    Please, somebody who is still siding with the owners, can you logically explain to me why???

  11. lovesportsandsurfing says: May 11, 2011 12:53 PM

    By the way, if you click on my name, I write an almost daily blog about myself and the struggles of the daily grind, during the offseason its not NGL related,..its mainly about life…take care.

  12. schemefactory says: May 11, 2011 12:54 PM

    only one thing’s for sure: this commissioner is not an objective mediary at all. he’s a tool of the owners, and they should all be ashamed of themselves if they let that happen.

  13. boisestatewhodat says: May 11, 2011 12:54 PM

    It pains me to say this but at this point, after changing many times between pessimism and optimism…I would be shocked if the 2011 season isn’t at the very least extremely shortened if not entirely cancelled all together. I am pissed!

  14. TheDPR says: May 11, 2011 12:55 PM

    Am I the only one who thinks Goodell and DeSmith are the root of the entire problem?

  15. wasafan says: May 11, 2011 12:56 PM

    Good. As has been said many times on these forums, if there is no threat of shutdown and the courts lift the lockout, there is really no incentive for the players to come back to the table and engage in serious discussions. They will just be able to conduct business as usual. All options should be on the table and both sides should feel financial pain until a new CBA is reached.

    If you don’t think it will happen, see the NHL, 2004.

  16. chapnastier says: May 11, 2011 12:56 PM

    “That type of answer is a great reminder that we really have no idea where this work stoppage is headed. We’ll have more from Goodell’s interview throughout the day.”

    And it is a great reminder of how to act professional during a highly profiled labor/court dispute. As opposed to you know, making dumb videos about your bosses!

  17. bearsbulls34 says: May 11, 2011 12:57 PM

    Roger Goodell seems like a pretty nice guy, and his father was a great man. That being said, I’d be tempted to punch him in the face if I ever saw him in person.

  18. whathappenedtovox says: May 11, 2011 12:58 PM

    Goodell and the owners aren’t even practicing common sense at this point. Forget what’s best for the fans, the health of the league, the players, or even what’s in the best interest of the OWNERS THEMSELVES… This nonsense has become more about “winning” to the owners, and it won’t surprise me in the slightest if they resort to this extreme maneuver, which would essentially be cutting off their nose to spite their face.

    And yet, I can almost guarantee that some of the dopes that comment at this site will irrationally cheer this possible move by the owners, which to me is just flat out incomprehensible.

  19. bobbyhoying says: May 11, 2011 12:59 PM

    First of all I believe there is only one alternative (by definition) but multiple options. I can’t help but believe this situation will end with a lot of hard feelings on both sides, resulting in the premature end to some careers.

  20. neilanblomi says: May 11, 2011 12:59 PM

    “We’re considering a variety of alternatives””

    All of which include new ways to keep the lockout going and not play football.

    Great job Rodger

  21. mick730 says: May 11, 2011 12:59 PM

    I believe, and rightfully so, that the league should shut down for a season if the courts rule in favor of the union. There is no way the league should continue to pay the players 4.5 billion dollars while they are being sued for treble damages in ant-trust lawsuits by the very same players.

    The NFL needs to do exactly what the NHL did and that’s why I think they brought Batterman on board the legal team.

    There is no way the league survives if they let the inmates run the asylum.

  22. djstat says: May 11, 2011 1:00 PM

    If these idiots would actually negotiate and not wait for a court ruling this could be solved. Boht sides make me sick. As a season ticket holder who paid a PSL, I plan to sue my team for my PSL money if they simply shutdown.

    Goodell has lost my respect because he does not have the balls to tell owners like Jones and Richardson to know their rolls and shut their mouths

  23. manderson367 says: May 11, 2011 1:01 PM

    I’m perfectly fine with a complete shut down. At least then I can start making other plans for the fall. I’ll miss the NFL, but life goes on.

  24. sincitycheeze says: May 11, 2011 1:02 PM

    Shut down in 6…5…4…3…2…1……….

  25. sincitycheeze says: May 11, 2011 1:04 PM

    Your on a slippery slope here Mr. Goodell,don’t screw this or us,up.

  26. bearskoolaid1985 says: May 11, 2011 1:11 PM

    I have said this once or twice………….
    If the players did not walk away from the barganing table and decertified instead of extending the talks to get a new CBA. All this crap in the courts would not be happening and maybe a new NFL season would happening.
    Shame on you players for listening to Kessler the NFL hater lawer.

  27. kom2k10 says: May 11, 2011 1:12 PM

    I hope they do go forward with a complete shutdown of the NFL if they lose in court. I don’t understand how a court can order a business to “open it’s doors” even when doing so would be against the best interest of that busines??

    If the players already used their “nuclear option” to decertify, why shouldn’t the NFL be able to use their “nuclear option” and go to a complete shutdown? Maybe then these spoiled players can hit up monster.com to see what it’s like to be “freed from slavery” and find themselves a job on the open market like the rest of us non-slaves!

  28. crubenst says: May 11, 2011 1:12 PM

    This won’t end until the players and D. Smith finally realize the owners own the league and they can’t set their own rules through the courts. If takes a complete shut down by the league, so be it. We’ll all be better off in the long run.

  29. bronco1st says: May 11, 2011 1:19 PM

    Gee, would a Goodell resignation be among the “alternatives”?

  30. p4hbiz says: May 11, 2011 1:21 PM

    Worst Commisioner Ever!

  31. ravensrule1208 says: May 11, 2011 1:22 PM

    They are worried about what percent of 9 billion they get .What is 50 percent of nothing thats what they are headed towards.

  32. nflconspiracytheoristdeluxe says: May 11, 2011 1:22 PM

    By not saying no, absolutely, positively not, they won’t shut it down, he was saying exactly that they are considering just that.

  33. Rhode Island Patriots Fan says: May 11, 2011 1:23 PM

    Commissioner Goodell’s answer hardly qualifies as a rejection of the NFL shutdown option. And that’s entirely appropriate. After all, if the players want to maximize their leverage, shouldn’t the owners want to maximize their leverage as well? Or, should we expect the owners to simply hand over the “keys to the candy store” to the players, roll over, and play dead?

  34. clintonportisheadd says: May 11, 2011 1:27 PM

    “Mike, the only thing I’m going to say in regards to any of these rumors, there’s all kinds of reports, is that we’re considering a variety of different alternatives based on the court decisions. ”

    ===============

    Would one of the “alternatives” be compromising with the players and actually coming to an agreement?

    I know it goes against the whole “let’s bust the union and keep the whole financial pie for ourselves” attitude/plan/wet dream of the owners but since we all know they botched it up (see various court rulings against them) maybe it’s time to re-evaluate?

  35. indianajet says: May 11, 2011 1:28 PM

    It wouldn’t take the whole NFL to shutdown to cause a problem.

    What if the Court’s rule in the players favor and the Buffalo Bills decide, that’s it, we’re done, we’re folding up shop?

  36. phillycheez says: May 11, 2011 1:28 PM

    Why can’t these people do what the rest of the world is doing and learn to live with a little less?

    I blame the networks for creating this mess by grossly overpaying the league for the broadcast rights and in turn altering the natural flow of the game to accommodate a zillion truck and beer commercials. Now everyone associated with the league has some distorted sense of entitlement to the embarrassment of riches available to them and all are too spoiled and petulant to find common ground.

    Goodell says he is all about the good of the game but sells the NFL’s soul every chance he gets. He’s driven to make money and uses the game as a tool to accomplish the owners objective of getting richer and richer. Outrageous ticket prices, parking prices, concessions, and my personal favorite, PSL’s – if that doesn’t say it all nothing does. Pay the players a decent wage (not the ridiculous monopoly figures that you currently do) and maybe you won’t need to rape the fans that make it all possible.

  37. ahanson45 says: May 11, 2011 1:30 PM

    People need to stop being so selfish and greedy. This lockout and potential shutdown could have been avoided.

    Get the off season going already! Who cares about money!

  38. Mike Tomlin says: May 11, 2011 1:31 PM

    Does this guy ever answer a questions fully and honestly?

  39. jetfaninla says: May 11, 2011 1:37 PM

    If Goodell actually shutdown the NFL, he would be one of the most hated men in America. (Yes, I’m aware it would be the owners who would vote for that, but public perception is that Goodell represents the interests of the owners and not that of football.)

    More interestingly though, if the NFL shutdown, I would expect a strong government backlash – both from Congress and from the state/local government (good bye tax exemptions?).

  40. thebigrig82 says: May 11, 2011 1:41 PM

    shut it down, who cares….Both sides have shown how greedy and self centered they are….without the fans paying ridiculous prices for NFL merchandise, none of you (players AND owners) would be anything! It seems everyone has forgotten about the fans. No fans, no million dollar cry babies! Shut down your 9 billion dollar business, greedy pr*ck$!!!

  41. TxGrown says: May 11, 2011 1:43 PM

    Roger here’s an alternative…PLAY THE 2011 SEASON!

  42. lovesportsandsurfing says: May 11, 2011 1:43 PM

    My mistake,..unsure if there is a NGL anywhere…National Golf League?…NFL was what I meant to say.

  43. myeaglescantwin says: May 11, 2011 1:50 PM

    The entire time this lockout has been held, the owners have been going back years to falsify books. By the time that this is ready for final judgement, their side will have one hell of a case & facts to back it. It’s a damn shame this hold up is about greed rookie wage scales instead of things like top of the line post-career health care.

  44. oreo51 says: May 11, 2011 2:13 PM

    The players biggest mistake was challenging the owners ownership of the league. The players calling themselves partners doesn’t sit well with the owners. This was a declaration of war and now the owners have no choice but to put the players in their proper place. Decertification was the nuclear option. Now the owners will do the same and we shall see how long De Smith can hold the former union together.

  45. ashburninsider says: May 11, 2011 2:15 PM

    I predicted this awhile back. The owners are taking a page out of the NHL’s playbook. And rightfully so. The Players will buckle and we will have a better NFL after it’s all said and done. De Smith will go down in history as the man who killed the NFL as we know it now. But really maybe he’s just doing us all a favor.
    Whats the over under for Dez Bryant filling bankruptcy within the year?

  46. mrcowpatty says: May 11, 2011 2:29 PM

    With the number of people that are unemployed in the U.S.A. I’m sure the owners can find plenty of people to play football. The only down side is that it’s really going to mess up a lot of fans fantasy football leagues.

  47. 2011to2020lions says: May 11, 2011 2:33 PM

    Can we agree that if DeMaurice Smith would have counter offered rather than walk away saying this is the worst deal in the history of sports, we would have a deal in place by now. There would also be a few lawyers making much less than they are to date. I just want a deal to get done, and pride is at an all time high now. Someone will have to humble themselves if it is going to be done easily, or be humbled is the long and hard way to get it done. I am sad to say, I think someone will be humbled, before they humble themselves.

  48. vadog says: May 11, 2011 2:35 PM

    Goodell doesn’t care about the best interests of the game!

    The owners don’t care about the best interests of the game!

    The players don’t care about the best interests of the game!

    The lawyers, judges and magistrates don’t care about the best interest of the game!

    The agents don’t care about the best interests of the game!

    The networks don’t care about the best interests of the game.

    Professional writers and bloggers don’t care about the best interests of the game.

    It seems as if the only people who care about the game are the fans and we aren’t at the table in any way, shape or form.

    All professional sports are doomed!!!

  49. j0esixpack says: May 11, 2011 2:36 PM

    If Goodell pulls, this, we as fans should hire Scab owners.

    Who’s with me?

  50. buckeye4278 says: May 11, 2011 2:37 PM

    I keep reading about a “better NFL” after a shutdown. Someone tell me what’s wrong with the NFL now? Hockey didn’t have 9 billion dollars coming in they were arguing over splitting up. And hockey owners were responsible for the mess in the first place because they showed no discretion in signing players to stupid contracts they couldn’t pay. There is already a salary cap. What is this new NFL going to give fans that the players union is stopping them from receiving now? Ticket prices won’t go down, I can tell you that. The system is not broken, the owners just don’t like it. Small market teams like the Bengals, Bills, Saints, and Jacksonville won’t go for a shutdown, these teams thrive on ticket sales and shared revenue, which won’t exist in a shutdown. No one thinks about all the league/team/stadium employees that would also be put out of work.

  51. GG Eden says: May 11, 2011 2:38 PM

    If the NFL shuts down for one season, I’m thinking the players will all be free of their contracts, and will join the UFL and CFL, and the UFL will expand the following year with more franchises, and the players, the future players in college, and the NFLPA* will not deal with the NFL anymore.

    But I dont know. Why it would be great if Mike did a legal and real-world analysis of what might happen if the NFL shut down.

  52. deadeye says: May 11, 2011 2:42 PM

    Please, somebody who is still siding with the owners, can you logically explain to me why???

    ———————————————-

    Because the players are using the courts to force decisions on the owners. “Shutting down” the league is the only option left for the owners since the sham decertification isn’t being recogized as such by the liberal pro-union judges. The owners understand that only way to get the players to bargain in good faith is to remove their source of income for a season. That way reality will set in and they’ll sign a CBA that allows the owners to make some money on their 900 million dollar investment.

    I’m sick of the union, players who think they are slaves, and judges who side with unions no matter what. I hope the owners shut it down.

  53. p4hbiz says: May 11, 2011 2:51 PM

    If The Raiders Gene Upshaw was living we wouldn’t even be talking about this..

    GO RAIDERS!!! R.I.P GENE UPSHAW

  54. vahawker says: May 11, 2011 2:52 PM

    bhindenemylines….Consider yourself corrected. He is saying they are looking at all options and possibilities that may arise depending on what decisions the court hands down.

    Can you explain why the players walked away from the negotiating table without even reading the owner’s offer or discussing an extension of the negations? Seems the owners just wanted to get a deal done but the DeIdiot was tunnel visioned on the decert and law suits instead of negotiating a deal that was in the best interest of both the players and the league.

  55. vahawker says: May 11, 2011 2:53 PM

    vadog..you had me right up until the last line.

  56. clintonportisheadd says: May 11, 2011 3:01 PM

    NFL to fans-The 2011 season is cancelled.

    Congress to NFL-So is your anti trust exemption!

    So as we see, those predicting a football free 2011 really have not been paying attention….

  57. realitypolice says: May 11, 2011 3:03 PM

    I love everyone referencing the NHL. The NHL is not doing “better than ever”.

    They have a team (Coyotes) who needed to extort 25 million from City of Glendale to meet it’s operating expenses.

    It’s new TV deal with NBC and Versus (versus!) pays 2 billion dollars spread out over 10 YEARS! That’s 200 million per year, or less than $7 million per team. The first TV contract after the lockout gave NBC rights to show the games for FREE!

    Their Stanley Cup Final games get beaten in the ratings by local baseball broadcasts.

    Yeah- that’s the model the NFL should be following.

    If the league ceases operations, all TV contracts would have to be renegotiated.

    How many billions would the NFL lose?

    The NFL will not shut down.

  58. hendawg21 says: May 11, 2011 3:29 PM

    NFL and I mean owners and players just go on and hang yourselves…kick the chair from out under you…It’s evident both sides believe they are above the game and they’ll prevail in the end. Well guess what keep up all this childish rhetoric alienating the fans and there won’t be anyone watching or showing up…

    I love football I live for the NFL season but since March i’ve lost a lot of that love and the more this goes on the more I move on…

  59. crunchyclam says: May 11, 2011 3:37 PM

    deadeye says:
    May 11, 2011 2:42 PM
    “Shutting down” the league is the only option left for the owners since the sham decertification isn’t being recogized as such by the liberal pro-union judges. The owners understand that only way to get the players to bargain in good faith is to remove their source of income for a season. That way reality will set in and they’ll sign a CBA that allows the owners to make some money on their 900 million dollar investment.
    —————————————————-

    The union decertification came about after it was revealed the NFL negotiated for ‘lockout insurance’ from the networks years ago. The owners plan all along has been less about negotiating with players and more about cramming their terms down the union’s throat. Can’t blame for decertifying when the owners haven’t acted in good faith from the outset.

    Nobody knows how much the owners are making/losing because they refuse to open their books (which is their right), but it would be the ultimate way to prove their arguments. The most vocal and confrontational owners have been the ones who run their franchises horribly like Jerry Richardson. It’s better for the league if clowns like him don’t make money because it either forces him to improve his team or maybe sell his team to someone who can manage a franchise. No reason why the rest of the league should be concerned with propping up owners who don’t run their teams as well as their peers.

  60. laeaglefan says: May 11, 2011 3:43 PM

    If the NFL does shut down operations, what would be the over/under of how many players get arrested during what would normally be the NFL football season?

  61. nahcouldntbethat says: May 11, 2011 3:56 PM

    The NFL is not going to shutdown. The teams that have heavy debt burdens can’t take that risk, even if they think they’ll win out in the long run they face a real risk of going bankrupt before that point.

    One of the perils of running a highly leveraged business with a hefty cash-flow enabling the leverage is that if that cash stream goes dry at any point you can go under in a fairly short period of time.

  62. vahawker says: May 11, 2011 4:16 PM

    crunchy—preparing for a possible lockout and planning to have a lockout are not the same thing. Owners knew a sham decert was possible and prepared for the eventuality that they would be required(in their minds) to lock out the players. Owners made offers that the players didn’t read, players made a grand total of ZERO offers except to play under the CBA that the owners opted out of(which was their right under the terms of the CBA itself).

    I’ll ask again because no one has answered the question.: how can anyone say the players negotiated in good faith when they didn’t read the owner’s last offer, refused to extend the negotiation deadline, made no offers of their own, and decertified and ran to the courts at the first possible opportunity?

  63. thefiesty1 says: May 11, 2011 4:27 PM

    Shut it down! Make these idiot players go out and find a real job and see how much they like their paychecks.

  64. crunchyclam says: May 11, 2011 5:00 PM

    vahawker says:
    May 11, 2011 4:16 PM
    I’ll ask again because no one has answered the question.: how can anyone say the players negotiated in good faith when they didn’t read the owner’s last offer, refused to extend the negotiation deadline, made no offers of their own, and decertified and ran to the courts at the first possible opportunity?
    —————————————————-

    Some revisionist history on your part, here’s actually what happened:

    “We met with the owners until about 4 o’clock today,” union head DeMaurice Smith said outside the mediator’s office. “We discussed a proposal they had presented. At this time, significant differences continue to remain. We informed the owners that … if there was going to be a request for an extension, that we asked for 10 years of audited financial information to accompany that extension.”

    “About 15 minutes later, the union decertified.”

    Rejecting an offer is not the same thing as not reading it. The owners didn’t change their initial proposal enough to satisfy the union and they also didn’t meet the union’s requirement for an extension. The only feasible step for the union at this point was to decertify and try their luck in court because they weren’t getting any closer at the bargaining table. What’s so hard to understand about this?

  65. andrewfbrowne says: May 11, 2011 5:02 PM

    NFL has to grab leverage back, players can strike and when owners try to lock them out they just decertify and file lawsuit, owners do not have any leverage. Shutting it down has to be a viable option. I am sorry, just because revenue is up does not mean that profits are. You have to hit the brakes on spending before you get to the edge of the cliff.

  66. jutts says: May 11, 2011 5:35 PM

    Godell is a Jerk…

  67. moggy6actual says: May 11, 2011 5:38 PM

    clintonportisheadd says:
    May 11, 2011 3:01 PM
    NFL to fans-The 2011 season is cancelled.

    Congress to NFL-So is your anti trust exemption!

    So as we see, those predicting a football free 2011 really have not been paying attention….

    ——————————–
    The NFL does NOT have an anti-trust exemption. If they had one, there would be no court case. Major League Baseball is the only professional sport to have an anti-trust exemption.

  68. vahawker says: May 11, 2011 5:42 PM

    Crunchy…SERIOUSLY!?!? Owner’s offer an extension and players make totally unreasonable request and then blame owners for the player’s actions. Classic.

    So…instead of working out their significant differences(you know, NEGOTIATING a settlement) the ambulance chaser did the only thing he knows-run to the court.. which you seem to think is the only feasible option. Sorry, both sides should have been at the table and not gotten up until a settlement was reached.

    Plain and simple…the players walked away from negotiations while the owners were still attempting to work out an agreement with Dee da Dee.

    And what exactly was in the player’s proposal that was submitted to the owner’s during the negotiations*? Oh right…we’ll play under the CBA that was universally perceived as ridiculously skewed to the players and that the owners, as was their right, opted out of.

  69. crunchyclam says: May 11, 2011 7:07 PM

    vahawker says:
    May 11, 2011 5:42 PM
    Oh right…we’ll play under the CBA that was universally perceived as ridiculously skewed to the players and that the owners, as was their right, opted out of.
    ————————————————–

    This is where you and I differ, friend. The NFL is the only major professional sports league without guaranteed contracts and their players have the shortest careers on average. Calling the last CBA ‘ridiculously skewed’ is ridiculous. The players union got more money 2006 in lieu of the safety and security that guaranteed contracts bring. It’s trade-off that was fair for both sides.

    If ownership wants to significantly lessen the percentage of the money paid to players then they should have to concede something of value. Instead they just claim the extra revenue they keep will help the league grow. Which is BS for a sport that’s already the most popular in this country. You know what would be better for league growth? If inept owners such as Jerry Richardson, Ralph Wilson, Al Davis et al could run a franchise successfully. Good teams breed fan support and loyalty. These clowns don’t realize that.

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