That depends on your perspective. Without again rehashing events to this point, many of us believe Judge Nelson made the correct decision in lifting the lockout. The owners could have taken that opportunity to impose last year’s rules and move forward with the season while negotiating a new CBA. The players would have dropped the antitrust suits–which the owners will not win if they stubbornly persist in proceeding. Then sooner, rather than later, the league would be back in business and those thousands of people would be back to work at full pay.

Unfortunately, the owners decided instead to continue their game of high-stakes chicken with help from the procrastinating judges of the Eighth Circuit. Did you ever see Rebel Without a Cause? The chickie game did not end well for the Leader of the Pack.

Our judicial system is supposed to rule on the law whether they have different views on the subject or not. It is about ruling on the law, period. That is what the Court of Appeals is about. By not ruling they are making a mockery of the court system in favor of either being a Republican or a Democrat, exactly what is wrong with Congress now. Congress should be about the United States of America not what one particular party wants or not. Just as the Court of Appeals should rule on Judge Nelson interpretation of the law in her ruling. How it pertains to other cases or future cases should and must have no bearing. If she ruled correctly then say so, if she didn’t then say so but they have had more than enough time to make a ruling.

It is nothing short of a political statement by that particular three judge panel something I believe the constitution says is not suppose to happen. These judges were appointed supposedly in that they would not let politics enter into their decisions and their decisions should be based on the law of the land.

Again we are seeing how the judicial system isn’t working instead of how it should work. Similarly we see how a simple negotiation between the players and owners isn’t working because neither side gives a rat’s behind about anything other than trying to force the other into a deal that is only acceptable to one side. That is not a negotiation and each side is more comparable to a mafia family trying to gain control of more territory by destroying another mafia family.

On Monday the 16th, if either side should present a viable offer of a new CBA that benefits both sides then I would definitely root for that side in the fray but apparently it is more about taking advantage over one side or the other. It is sad that the NFL had two plus years to present acceptable offers and chose not to do so. It is sad the players haven’t submitted a proposal for a fair CBA in the last two months. Both sides could have easily done so.

If the owners don’t want to show their books, fine, then present a CBA proposal that is fair to both sides based solely on the knowledge that you have let the other side see, same goes to the players. These .coms that either side is putting out is akin to the political rhetoric we will see from candidates in 2012 running for president, in other words very little truth but a whole lot of lies.

As to the shutdown, according to attorneys I know, if the NFL does shutdown then the best course of action may be for the players to sue owners individually to open their books as in a bankruptcy case. That will only mean the loss of the season and more bad blood. The NFL and players talk about being role models for kids. Well if this is being a role model, then we can expect many more criminals to hit the streets in the coming years or maybe just a huge influx of lawyers. Maybe that joke about “what do you have with 100 lawyers at the bottom of the sea” does apply.

So the players somehow have legal recourse to stop a lockout, yet if the players went on strike, there is no way for the owners to stop the strike and force the players back to work.

And if the owners hired scab players, the striking NFL players would cry about it and say it is “illegal”.

So according to the liberal legal system and union-biased judges:
1. Players/unions can do whatever they want
2. Business owners and entities should never force anything upon union workers lest there be irreparable damage to those union members
3. If the union members happen to contribute to the judges re-election campaign, that is ok but if the business owners did the same then they are so wrong and should be fined for doing so

“At least the woman actually made a decision. She didn’t dilly-dally with the jobs of thousands of people.”

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I would rather 3 brilliant judges take their time and make the correct decision instead of one incompetent judge making the wrong decision.

Just because judge Nelson made a quick decision doesn’t make it right. In fact she made a very wrog decision which has directly affected the jobs of thousands of people.

Ball is in your court

The question is this…if the players lose in the 8th circuit…will they take the case to the US Supreme Court?

We live in a society where our elected officials threatend to hold the country they were elected to run hostage so that they and their collegues wouldn’t be held financially responsible for our countries debt and you expected the judicial system to make a ruling about football? Hillarious!

1) They can take a fresh bite of the apple if they want to. PFT is trying to paint them into a corner of what they most commonly do; however, the 8th can decide to take a clean look at the case.

2) It could be perceived by the judges that the most harm to one party is if one party loses all leverage through court rulings. The ‘unofficial’ delay in the ruling gives time for the two parties to get back to the table before one of them is over a barrel.

3) PFT is losing credibility as objective journalists with each of these judgement laden stories. You are as subtle as bullhorn in a library.

See what you boss thinks of that position. See if you still have the client the next day.

Must be nice to be a government employee!!

It is clear that you don’t think that the NFL should even contest anything that D. Smith wants. Are you on his payroll?

Where have you gone Judge Susan Nelson, PFT nation turns its desperate eyes to you … woo woo woo

what circus? they arent talking. you are. you are the circus. they dont have to rule until after orals.

there was absolutely no irreparable harm, and the players’ actions and statements every day back that point up. nelson is simply a bigtime union judge.

Right now they’re creating anarchy and lawlessness. That’s antithetical of their purpose. That anyone supports this is scary. Imagine courts not making decisions anymore because, well the constitution says one thing, but we don’t agree with the constitution so…

If the 8th believes Nelson did interpret the law improperly and can state the reasons, fine. If not, end the stay. But this judicial activism based on politics is a path I don’t want this country going down.

Yea, well she found wrong. As quote after quote from the “players’ has shown, they are all enjoying the hell out of not “working”. There is no harm in their minds, irreparable or reparable.

And my guess is that the 8th circuit has already ruled by not ruling. The lockout stays in place. Deal with it.

If the players don’t like it, they could actually sit down and negotiate a fair CBA that works for both parties, not just for them, or, they could go get a job.

My guess is that they will just let their little yard gnome with the bad hats lead them around like the sheep they are until they miss their first paycheck. Then they’ll collapse like a house of cards.

It should be a very amusing sight to behold.

You people are losing sight of the big picture. The NFL is NOT getting a second bite at the apple unless the 8th Cir. (if IT follows the law) determines that Nelson overstepped her bounds. This is an extremely DIFFICULT burden for the NFL to overcome and the reason why only a TINY portion of cases get reversed on appeal.

The temporary stay is merely the 8th Circuit’s own Hail Mary pass to see if the sides would settle before the appeal was actually heard.

There is nothing in the legal system that says they have to and when. There is no deadline and no p0arty to the action is being hurt by the delay, except maybe the players. But didn’t they initiate this action by decertifying instead of bargaining?

Maybe PFT should file a petition with the court that they are doing irreparable harm to its readers by constantly badgering them with this garbage.

Its obvious they will rule when they are damn well ready and not because PFT wants them to.

No other site, that I am aware of, is constantly bringing this up. All the rest are aware they will do what they want.

Give it up PFT and move on to another topic.

I’m fed up seeing these same articles, repeatedly voicing the same OPINIONS, but no facts to support them.

Take off taht tie and just show us that Pat White Jersey underneath…fraud…

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Activist judges. What in Judge Nelson’s ruling do they not understand? The lockout is illegal.

Someone paid them off.

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Lol, naivete runs rampant.

In order to rule on whether the stay is extended pending appeal the Judges say nothing about the strength of Judge Neslon’s ruling or the validity of her ruling or their opinion of it. A temporary stay was granted. The Judges can either rule on making the stay ‘permanent’ until the appeal is heard and ruled on or they can simply leave the ‘temporary’ stay in place, effectively ruling that the stay will remain in place until the appeal is decided. A stay is granted if the judges fell that ‘irreparable’ harm will be done to one party or the other if the order is implemented before the appeal is heard. BY letting the ‘temporary’ stay continue the Judges avoid having to make that determination.

Nobody ‘paid them off’