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One G.M. “waiting for the first ACL tear” at player-organized workouts

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Scores of NFL players have taken it upon themselves to organize practices on their own to stay in shape and build team chemistry during the lockout, and in general those players have been lauded for their commitment and dedication. But are these workouts really such a good idea?

Don Banks of Sports Illustrated talked to one NFL general manager who thinks it’s just a matter of time before some player comes to seriously regret participating in a lockout workout.

“Quite honestly, I’m waiting for the first ACL tear that happens and then we’ll see if anyone talks about how great this whole workout program is for these young guys,” the G.M. said.

The general manager said he doesn’t believe the players are going to have the right kind of training and medical staff on hand for their own workouts, which only heightens the risk of injury.

“[A]s soon as a prominent player pops an ACL in some high school gym or at some college, what’s going to be the reaction? If someone breaks a leg, who’s there to help? As a GM, the thing that makes me nervous is the what-ifs that could happen without supervision, specifically from a training standpoint,” he said. “Let someone lose their quarterback for eight months because he slipped and hurt something, be it a Drew Brees, a Tom Brady or a Peyton Manning, then we’ll see how fast these camps continue.”

An unnamed NFL agent also expressed some worries about the risk of injury.

“People should realize that if players get hurt now, on their own time, that’s a non-football injury and they don’t have to be paid or have their contracts honored after that,” the agent said. “I tell my guys to work out, but under supervision that is professional and to be careful. They have to stay in shape from a cardiovascular and strength standpoint, but other than that I don’t know how important it is to go out and play touch football.”

So maybe Reggie Bush has the right idea.

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42 Responses to “One G.M. “waiting for the first ACL tear” at player-organized workouts”
  1. chapnastier says: May 13, 2011 2:13 PM

    Can’t argue with the point he makes. All the more reason to get back to the table and actually negotiate.

  2. scytherius says: May 13, 2011 2:22 PM

    The Ownership fiddles as it all burns down.

  3. endzonezombie says: May 13, 2011 2:23 PM

    I hope the owners are listening to the concerns of GMs around the league. They don’t need a lockout while they are litigating or negotiating. They can open their doors for supervised training and mitigate the risk of informal injuries. What the league needs is an omnbudsman – not Goodell – who raises the issues of team staffs who are more concerned with operational matters. The owners are not acting in the best interests of their own staffs.

  4. deanvernonwormer says: May 13, 2011 2:23 PM

    Is the knee padding any different for the lockout workout as opposed to the team workout?

  5. toad8572 says: May 13, 2011 2:24 PM

    Most of these guys have been working out and performing all their lives, only recently with benefit of professional trainers and physicians.

    If this is really a big deal, it’s something that should be fixed in the new CBA.

  6. endzonezombie says: May 13, 2011 2:25 PM

    typo correction: ombudsman

  7. doncornelious says: May 13, 2011 2:28 PM

    In other “non” related news, the NFL has hired Jeff Gillooly to their payroll.

  8. nyctexan says: May 13, 2011 2:30 PM

    Well isn’t that a lovely thought

  9. rams1579 says: May 13, 2011 2:32 PM

    my guess? AJ Smith…

  10. joeflaccosunibrow says: May 13, 2011 2:33 PM

    This GM is gonna keep waiting. The players don’t have health insurance during the lockout. No player is going to pay out-of-pocket for diagnosis, surgery and rehab.

    Was this “GM’s” last name Cerrato?

  11. whatswiththehate says: May 13, 2011 2:33 PM

    So maybe it’ time for all those concerned folks to stop acting like kids and get back to the bargaining table..Now there’s a novel idea..

    Money and fools…

  12. jackfnburton says: May 13, 2011 2:33 PM

    Well, then I guess they’d better get this damn lockout solved fast then, eh?

  13. trollaikman8 says: May 13, 2011 2:35 PM

    Sounds like an AJ Smith-kinda-thing to say.

  14. lacharger2112 says: May 13, 2011 2:44 PM

    Once the short season begins players will be dropping like flies. Hamstring pulls are going to be epidemic throughout the league.
    It’s like having a thousand players hold out and not be properly prepared once it’s time to go full speed.

    This season is going to suck!

  15. mightyleemoon says: May 13, 2011 2:44 PM

    As Al Pacino once said…

    “Get killed walking your doggie!”

  16. billionsvsmillions says: May 13, 2011 2:45 PM

    Welcome the REAL WORLD NFL players. Go flip some burgers, collect my trash, or better yet become an RN and take care of the sick and wounded… Make 1/10th of what you do per game in a years worth of work and then sit here and bitch about how your not getting paid enough. Clowns.

  17. andrewfbrowne says: May 13, 2011 2:46 PM

    There really has to be better ways to spend your time than waiting for ACL’s to tear.

  18. ilovefoolsball says: May 13, 2011 2:46 PM

    He has a point but wouldn’t they be working out on their own anyway? It’s not like they’re actually playing football they’re just doing plyometric exercises and sprinting to keep in shape. Injuries can occur anywhere and I think there is a better chance of someone injuring their body when they finally do get this deal done if they haven’t been keeping in shape then they need to make up for lost time so they push too hard.

  19. sowcrates says: May 13, 2011 2:50 PM

    ““Let someone lose their quarterback for eight months because he slipped and hurt something,”

    Sounds as though Drew Brees should be as wary of stepping out of the shower as getting a little jogging, running and throwing in.

    Any injury a player suffers from basic cardio or weightlifting is most likely going to be a frank injury. A guy who weighs 310 lbs might tear an ACL walking up his driveway if he takes a funny enough step, he can’t let the fear of a frank injury keep him from falling out of shape and puffing up to a useless 350+ lbs.

  20. hobartbaker says: May 13, 2011 2:56 PM

    Knees will be shot as soon as those lard asses leave the seats of their jacked up SUVs, and make that 4 foot drop to the ground, while wearing 73 pounds of bling.

  21. macbull says: May 13, 2011 3:05 PM

    “Quite honestly, I’m waiting for the first ACL tear that happens and then we’ll see if anyone talks about how great this whole workout program is for these young guys,” the G.M. said.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    The GM…who does not have the guts to use his own name…lol.

    So this “nameless” GM believes workouts held with the owners blessings are somehow, “safer”?

    I wonder if this “nameless” GM looked up how many players suffered serious injuries participating in the management’s off season workouts last season?

    Doubtful…

  22. gregjennings85 says: May 13, 2011 3:05 PM

    Hence why they need a new CBA, and why retired NFLers need to be better provided for.

  23. sguy2130 says: May 13, 2011 3:09 PM

    I understand the mystery GM’s point, obviously everyone is frustrated by the lockout, and it’s a fair one….but it’s not like they are doing full contact tackling drills, where an ACL tear is much more likely.

    The players are running the workouts, they probably aren’t pushing themselves to the limit, unlike a coach running OTA’s who is trying to get players back into shape.

    Guys that make in the NFL workout year round anyways, so I don’t see this as a major glaring difference. Last time I checked, working out prevents injuries….

  24. annnann says: May 13, 2011 3:26 PM

    The GM has a point but these players work out all the time, off-season, during season, camps etc. So as long as these player organized workouts are not vigorous football practice, I think players know the right way to carry out simple workout routines without sustaining major injuries like an ACL or MCL.

    I personally don’t see much negative in these players organized workouts. Its working out with your teammates and can help bring continuity and camaraderie once the season eventually does start. If they don’t meet expectations, well you can’t say they didn’t try or aren’t dedicated. As for expenses, the veterans make millions anyways, I’m sure they can help with that department if anything goes wrong ie minor injuries.

  25. nolanorth says: May 13, 2011 3:32 PM

    [A]s soon as a prominent player pops an ACL in some high school gym or at some college, what’s going to be the reaction?

    Well after watching these selfish greedy players for 8 weeks, he’ll probably sue the school citing “don’t y’all know who I be? Allow me to use dees legs on y’all turf!”

    And as the media looks for additional comments they get a more sombre athlete “mein.. It’s hard being young and rich for the next 5 years”

  26. sdiegosteel says: May 13, 2011 3:47 PM

    I hope that GM is waiting for the first lawsuit filed against his organization when the owners remove the lockout on September 1st and then expect the players to be playing those September 11th games without any practice.

    Here’s to wishing Frank McCourt/Fred Wilpon financial disasters to all of the NFL owners – - screw you all.

  27. clear2me says: May 13, 2011 4:25 PM

    There is likely a herd of laywers sitting on the sideline just waiting to hear the ambulance sirens!
    Geez…just end this mess!

  28. randolph32 says: May 13, 2011 4:27 PM

    Maybe this will give the Bears a shot at the Super Bowl?

  29. Deb says: May 13, 2011 4:34 PM

    These players are putting themselves at risk without pay knowing any injuries they suffer during a lockout could cost them the season and won’t be covered by their organizations. And they’re doing it all for the benefit of their teams.

    Tell me again how players are selfish and don’t care about the game.

  30. richgannon says: May 13, 2011 6:04 PM

    “Let someone lose their quarterback for eight months because he slipped and hurt something, be it a Drew Brees, a Tom Brady or a Peyton Manning, then we’ll see how fast these camps continue.”

    What if a QB bangs his hand on a drink table and breaks it!?!?

    oh wait that happened to Rob Johnson during a game…

    Injuries, can happen anywhere and still cost a team their player for X amount of time regardless of where it happens or who is supervising, its up to the players if they’re going to risk having to foot the medical bills “IF” they are injured. If the owners are THAT concerned, well then both parties need to get back to negotiating and put them back in the team supervised weight rooms.

  31. chuckcecil says: May 13, 2011 6:20 PM

    Proof of Owner spamming:

    A [i]typo correction[/i] from endzonezombie, who merely suggested that the owners aren’t necessarily acting in the best interest of their staffs, receives a whopping 25 Thumbs Down. A typo correction!

    endzonezombie says:
    May 13, 2011 2:25 PM
    typo correction: ombudsman

  32. redskinsrt says: May 13, 2011 6:49 PM

    A GM or doctor isn’t going to be able to magically reverse the injury. The injured player will seek treatment just as he would if at a team-organized practiced. The medical staff doesn’t stand around and teach technique during workouts; this is just more team propaganda.

    These men have been preparing with teams, staffs, and individually nearly their whole lives.

  33. thefiesty1 says: May 13, 2011 6:55 PM

    They could tear an ACL in organized workouts or OTA’s with coaches there just as well. They’ve already killed their careers by letting DeMo Smith speak for them.

  34. MichaelEdits says: May 13, 2011 11:12 PM

    Whoever tears an ACL at these player-organized workout will be held up as the poster child for the greed of the big bad owners.

  35. meatloaf025 says: May 13, 2011 11:54 PM

    That is why you pay an agent who is going to get Lloyds to insure you

  36. CKL says: May 14, 2011 2:52 AM

    chuckcecil says:
    May 13, 2011 6:20 PM
    Proof of Owner spamming:

    A [i]typo correction[/i] from endzonezombie, who merely suggested that the owners aren’t necessarily acting in the best interest of their staffs, receives a whopping 25 Thumbs Down. A typo correction!
    –––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
    This is the capo di tutti capi of all silly owner shill arguments. MOST posts that correct prior misspellings/ errors in grammar etc. on here are roundly “thumbs downed” regardless of actual content. What it shows is that there are a fair amount of posters like the one who chastised me for correcting one of mine recently by saying he’s trying to read a bunch of posts while at work and it angers him to see a useless one like mine and he then accused me of whining about it (LOL). So basically I would say it’s “neener neener” types of posters…not shills.

  37. stixzidinia says: May 14, 2011 7:33 AM

    Like players don’t suffer ACL tears all the time during team-supervised workouts. LOL.

    And i’m going to love calling out all the hypocrites once the league starts back up. All of you who’ve been denouncing the players will go right back to rooting for them once they’re in uniform. And i’ll never let you forget it. You’ll never be able to enjoy another NFL win on the field.

  38. tatum064 says: May 14, 2011 8:12 AM

    thefiesty1 says: May 13, 2011 6:55 PM

    They could tear an ACL in organized workouts or OTA’s with coaches there just as well. They’ve already killed their careers by letting DeMo Smith speak for them.
    ========================
    There will be a settlement where the league is afforded leeway and the players get what they want. Even the owners are not dumb or greedy enough to lose the possible TV revenue, ad revenue, concessions from an extended lockout. There will be a season.

    They arent killing the goose that laid the golden egg. You do realize without Unions there would still be child slavery, indebted servitude, no vacations and unlimited profits by corporations. You really want to go back to the good ol days? Cmon!

  39. giboxer5 says: May 14, 2011 9:48 AM

    HAHA, jokes on all of you. Cincinnati doesn’t even have a GM to worry about such things. And Mike Brown’s plan is finally coming around..

  40. giboxer5 says: May 14, 2011 9:57 AM

    tatum064, drink some more of that union cool-aid ya drama queen!! DeMo is a crooked p.o.s. and because of him I hope the players get nothing. Who the hell do they think they are!! Telling ownership to release their books, LMFAO. Think that would fly in any other industry, spoiled overpaid losers. Players need to get a grip on reality, take the amazing deal they are being offered and shut the hell up. Owners take all the risk and deserve the profits. Don’t like it, then work hard and become an owner. Unions were essential at the beginning, at this point they are a drain and more dangerous to the stability of this country than a positive. They have destroyed the auto industry, government and now are working their magic on our sports…

  41. stixzidinia says: May 14, 2011 12:02 PM

    It’s obvious giboxer5 has all of Rush and Glen Beck’s books in his library. A couple of key points for you to consider there Fox News Boy:

    1) The only reasons unions exists is because of a long history of corporations subjecting its workers to horrible conditions, ridiculously low wages, and little to no benefits. Try doing some research instead of letting Hannity telling you what to believe.

    2) Name another industry where the employees are the product. Without these players the NFL has no business to run and would cease to exist. Period.

  42. giboxer5 says: May 15, 2011 10:35 AM

    stixzidinia, totally love people like you. Just because you aren’t intelligent enough to form your own opinions (as clearly shown by your post) doesn’t mean the rest of us are as inept as you. NO organization could exsist without workers you brain dead jerkoff. Ever heard of sales people?? Doctors?? Architects?? I could go on all day, and you clearly aren’t bright enough to understand, so go get mom and ask her to explain business and our free market economy to you.

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