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The end of the road could be near for McNabb

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In the wake of the latest one-two punch against Donovan McNabb — a fresh round of withering (albeit misguided) criticism from boxer Bernard Hopkins and a report that McNabb refused to wear a wristband containing the offensive plays last season in order to preserve his image — one writer who covered McNabb’s up-and-down tenure in Philly has offered up an intriguing take.

At a time when many assume McNabb will simply land with a new team for 2011, Geoff Mosher of DelawareOnline.com believes that McNabb career could be kaput.

“Perhaps there is no worse sign for McNabb than the fact that the Vikings, coached by former Eagles assistant Leslie Frazier, almost tore a biceps tendon reaching for Christian Ponder at 12th overall,” Mosher writes.

And then there’s this observation:  “NFL teams are forever getting younger, more athletic and more coachable at the game’s most important position — not older, injury prone and with an ego the size of Texas.”

Though we’re not yet ready to drop a shovel of dirt on McNabb’s 12-year NFL career, it’s a possibility that we no longer would regard as shocking.  McNabb will demand being installed as the Day One starter, and he’ll want the kind of financial package that inherently will demonstrate that the Eagles were wrong to trade him and that the Redskins were wrong to dismiss him.  At this point, we can’t think of a team that will do it — and we can’t envision McNabb accepting any lesser terms in order to continue playing.

Much can change between now and whenever the lockout ends.  But those changes possibly will have to come as much from McNabb’s view of his current abilities as they will from the needs of the teams who are trying to decide what to do at quarterback in 2011.

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  1. akhhorus says: May 15, 2011 6:57 PM

    Slightly flawed premise, there were multiple reports(Schefter, Mort, JLC and Lombari) that the Vikings are still very interested in McNabb even after taking Ponder.

  2. dirtmcgirt24 says: May 15, 2011 6:59 PM

    Didn’t I see this standout player listed in the Top 100 Players of 2011 on NFL Network recently? Simply not possible that such a top player could be finished.

  3. iamtalkingsolistenandlearn says: May 15, 2011 7:00 PM

    Now he can work on his Suntan.

  4. iamtalkingsolistenandlearn says: May 15, 2011 7:01 PM

    McNabb didn’t want to wear a wristband containing the plays cause it would have left tan lines

  5. ivekilledpeople says: May 15, 2011 7:03 PM

    First we have to get one thing straight: Hopkins comments were racist. Hopkins is a racist. Lets call a spade a spade here.

  6. mizzousooner says: May 15, 2011 7:05 PM

    I have a hard time believing that NcNabb’s career is over. There are teams with no viable option of any sort at QB and teams with youngsters who need a vet to help groom them and fill in till said young QB is ready to play.

  7. starshipseven says: May 15, 2011 7:06 PM

    If his career was to end now, it would take with it any chance of being selected for the Hall of Fame.

  8. dietrich43 says: May 15, 2011 7:06 PM

    There’s not 32 QBs better than McNabb. But, he’s also not a top 5 QB either. If McNabb’s ego doesn’t get in the way; he needs to realize that he’s not going to get a long-term deal with top 5 money at this point.

  9. iamtalkingsolistenandlearn says: May 15, 2011 7:10 PM

    I do want to say this in McNabbs defense.

    For Bernard Hopkins to continue his verbal assault on Donovan McNabb shows the typical urban upbringing he received. His parents obviously didn’t do a good job raising Bernard.

    Bernard would be happier if Donovan acted like most players like Dez Bryant, Terrell Owens, Plaxico Burress, and Aquib Talib. Maybe Bernard was raised by Aquib Talib’s momma, thats why he has no class.
    I am not an Eagles fan or a Redskins fan, and not really a fan of McNabbs. But the guy doesn’t act like a fool, doesnt dress like a fool, doesn’t get arrested, doesn’t make assinine “slavemaster” or Bil Laden statements, and he pays his bills.

    He is not the jackass who thinks the world owes him reparations, respects others, and acts like a decent human being.
    So Bernard Hopkins go EFF yourself. You are the dissappointment. You are the weak a$$. You are the hoodlum. You are the embarressment. And you must be jealous cause Donovan was raised properly and you weren’t

  10. iamtalkingsolistenandlearn says: May 15, 2011 7:13 PM

    Good job Momma McNabb:

    Now go get you some Chunky Soup Donovan

  11. jaymc1988 says: May 15, 2011 7:14 PM

    i got a good laugh on the tore a bicep tendon comment lmao

  12. fatfreddystubbs says: May 15, 2011 7:20 PM

    dietrich43 says:
    May 15, 2011 7:06 PM
    There’s not 32 QBs better than McNabb. But, he’s also not a top 5 QB either. If McNabb’s ego doesn’t get in the way; he needs to realize that he’s not going to get a long-term deal with top 5 money at this point.

    ————————————————–
    Wow, a completely rational, intelligent, well-reasoned comment on where Donovan stands at this point. You must be new here.

    I would just add that of those teams that drafted QB’s, a couple of them probably would want him as the starter. He just needs to realize that if their season starts going south (for whatever reason, whether it’s QB play or not) and they’re looking to be out of playoff contention, he’s gonna get yanked in favor of the kid and he’s just gonna have to deal with it.

  13. kyle90 says: May 15, 2011 7:23 PM

    Begin artillery fire and send in the mercenaries but bring in Abu alive – I have some unfinished business with him.

    Oooops… wrong blog…

  14. pbr10 says: May 15, 2011 7:24 PM

    Come to Carolina, show Cam how to be a professional and a winner, we need someone over the age of 25 on the depth chart.

  15. seanx40 says: May 15, 2011 7:24 PM

    “There’s not 32 QBs better than McNabb. ”

    No, but there are 20-25 QB’s better than him. And many more cheaper and smarter than him. And even more tougher, less fragile ones.

  16. dirtytaco says: May 15, 2011 7:25 PM

    Rashard Mendenhall’s eyes really creep me out

  17. zaggs says: May 15, 2011 7:26 PM

    It would be fitting for his over-rated career to have his most memorable clip of him blowing chunkies at the superbowl.

  18. FinFan68 says: May 15, 2011 7:42 PM

    McNabb was a good QB, not a great QB. He is past his prime but could be a caretaker while a rookie sits a year. He is not worth big money. He rarely leads his team from behind and bounces too many balls in the dirt. My guess would be a 1 to 2 year deal with Tennessee, Minnesota or Cincy for average money and difficult but reachable incentives.

  19. berniemadoffsides says: May 15, 2011 7:47 PM

    I still think AZ could use him, if Orton isn’t doable.

  20. peelmybatwings says: May 15, 2011 7:57 PM

    McNabb is washed up, but there are still bumbling franchises with bumbling coaches who would probably grab him and immediately insert him as a starter. Some athletes slowly decline, and I knew a few years ago McNabb was declining, but wow, once his speed went his career fell off a cliff.

  21. goawayeverybody says: May 15, 2011 7:58 PM

    Well at least McNabb can always say he made it to the Super Bowl. He has had a good career. However, I really don’t think he will end it on the sour note with which he ended it last season. He will most definitely land somewhere as a starter. Probably Seattle, Tennessee, or Miami.

  22. ar1888 says: May 15, 2011 8:04 PM

    He could always play for a senile Al Davis team.

  23. cleverbob says: May 15, 2011 8:12 PM

    The Vikings should bring in McNabb to mentor Ponder. He can teach him all about the 2 minute drill, overtime rules and proper air guitar technique.

  24. mrplow3 says: May 15, 2011 8:25 PM

    Sounds alot like his draft classmate Daunte Culpepper.

    Remember after his injury when it was apperent his skills were too limited to be a star? He couldn’t see it. He had an ego and it ended up getting him a one way ticket to the UFL. Even now Culpepper is better than 90% of the back up QBs in the league today, but that star ego tell teams not to bring you in, they dont want to taint their young talent with a washed up vet who can’t accept his role.

    BTW, Mcnabb may not be limited from injury but rather from naturally eroding skills. Culpepper pre injury was a much more accurate QB than Mcnabb ever was or will be as well……. There may be something to this story I think.

  25. profootballwalk says: May 15, 2011 8:32 PM

    ivekilledpeople says: May 15, 2011 7:03 PM

    First we have to get one thing straight: Hopkins comments were racist. Hopkins is a racist. Lets call a spade a spade here.
    ***********************

    A spade? Oh, I get it!

  26. nutsacjac says: May 15, 2011 8:58 PM

    @ seanx40 says:
    May 15, 2011 7:24 PM

    “There’s not 32 QBs better than McNabb. ”

    No, but there are 20-25 QB’s better than him. And many more cheaper and smarter than him. And even more tougher, less fragile ones.
    ————————————————-

    There are 25 QB’s better than McNabb currently in the NFL?

    Name them.

    Go ahead. I’ll wait.

    I’ll even start you off with some:

    Manning
    Brees
    Brady
    Rodgers
    Rivers

    That’s six, only 19 more to go!

  27. fatfreddystubbs says: May 15, 2011 9:22 PM

    “zaggs says:
    May 15, 2011 7:26 PM
    It would be fitting for his over-rated career to have his most memorable clip of him blowing chunkies at the superbowl.’
    ———————————————
    Considering that no sporting event on the face of the earth has more cameras than the Super Bowl, I’m assuming you’d have no trouble finding a link to video of Donovan puking in the Super Bowl. Can you provide one?

  28. 1stngoal says: May 15, 2011 9:32 PM

    Maybe McNabb can join Mr. Limbaugh on the radio after his playing days are over, rofl!!!

  29. freedomispopular says: May 15, 2011 9:32 PM

    As much as we like to crap on McNaab, when you consider his body of work with relatively little offensive talent to work with, and virtually no running game to assist him, for most of his career, he’s actually had a pretty good career. Not many QBs can say they’ve been to 5 conference championship games.

  30. ppie12 says: May 15, 2011 9:38 PM

    7. Drew Henson

  31. ppie12 says: May 15, 2011 9:39 PM

    8. Favre (if he comes back)

  32. nfceastisbeast says: May 15, 2011 9:40 PM

    There is too much baggage that comes with this guy. He certainly isn’t the guy to show a younster the ropes. He isn’t a leader, rather, a passive aggressive victim that the spotlight always seems to follow…….for all the wrong reasons. Unfortunately, the sooner he’s done playing the sooner we’re going to have to deal with him working for ESP*. I really can’t take any more of this guy.

  33. seanx40 says: May 15, 2011 9:41 PM

    “Name them”

    Aaron Rogers
    Matt Schaub
    Michael Vick
    Joe Flacco
    Peyton Manning
    Ben Roethlisberger
    Philip Rivers
    Matt Cassel
    Jay Cutler
    Matt Hasselbeck
    Sam Bradford
    Colt Mccoy
    Tom Brady
    Josh Freeman

    And a few more probably.
    Tony Romo
    Drew Brees
    Eli Manning
    Mark Sanchez

  34. nfceastisbeast says: May 15, 2011 9:57 PM

    I’ll finishe for you Sean:
    Matt Ryan
    Mathew Stafford
    Kyle Orton
    maybe even Jason Campbell

  35. sf69ers says: May 15, 2011 10:11 PM

    So Washington didn’t quite work out. Farve looked to be on his way out with the Jets, as did Warner with the Giants. Mcnabb still is a better option then what many teams currently have on their roster. Put him on Miami, Arizona, or the Titans and they very well could become playoff contenders.

  36. halo81 says: May 15, 2011 10:14 PM

    First we have to get one thing straight: Hopkins comments were racist. Hopkins is a racist. Lets call a spade a spade here.

    ——————————————————

    So, a black guy is racist against blacks and a guy obviously uses the word “spade” as a racial slur in his post and it gets thumbs up?

    Awesome reader base here.

  37. psujay says: May 15, 2011 10:15 PM

    Did you just say “maybe” Drew Brees?

    Ok, problem with a lot of these lists…If I’m running an NFL team for the future I’d rather have Sanchez than McNabb, but if this is a one year proposition I’ll take McNabb. We’re talking about better RIGHT NOW, not “who would I rather have for the next 5 years” which is what a lot of these lists seem to be including. I won’t bother creating a list as it takes up too much space, but does anyone really want Sanchez, Stafford and his 9 career starts, or Colt McCoy (seriously, that’s just being beyond biased) for one year over McNabb given the same team?

  38. fatfreddystubbs says: May 15, 2011 10:23 PM

    @seanx40

    If you think some of those QB’s you listed are better than Donovan, you probably also think Rosie O’Donnell is better lookin than Halle Berry.

  39. mrjumpman23 says: May 15, 2011 10:42 PM

    dietrich43 says:
    May 15, 2011 7:06 PM
    There’s not 32 QBs better than McNabb. But, he’s also not a top 5 QB either. If McNabb’s ego doesn’t get in the way; he needs to realize that he’s not going to get a long-term deal with top 5 money at this point.

    Are you serious???? 1.Peyton Manning 2. Drew Brees 3. Tom Brady 4. Donovan McNabb 5. Phillip Rivers… Donovan McNabb is still an elite QB, he just got shipped to the wrong team. Look at Washington’s franchise, the management stinks, and the coaching staff is terrible.

  40. mrjumpman23 says: May 15, 2011 10:49 PM

    seanx40 says:
    May 15, 2011 9:41 PM
    “Name them”

    Aaron Rogers
    Matt Schaub
    Michael Vick
    Joe Flacco
    Peyton Manning
    Ben Roethlisberger
    Philip Rivers
    Matt Cassel
    Jay Cutler
    Matt Hasselbeck
    Sam Bradford
    Colt Mccoy
    Tom Brady
    Josh Freeman

    And a few more probably.
    Tony Romo
    Drew Brees
    Eli Manning
    Mark Sanchez

    Wow!!!! I’m a Ravens fan and I’ll be the first to tell you that McNabb is 10 times better than Flacco. Your list is hilarious, leave the drugs alone, and actually watch an NFL game or 2… LMAO!!!!

  41. kyle90 says: May 15, 2011 11:09 PM

    All of humanity and most of the animal kingdom is better looking than Rosie O’Donnell. Except Chaz Bono maybe.

  42. tombstone7 says: May 15, 2011 11:25 PM

    For some reason, it keeps coming up that McNabb was the reason the Redskins had a dismal season. The real problem was there was less of a supporting offensive cast and the defense couldn’t get off the field……I won’t even mention how Shanana is out of touch with game itself……….he and his ego-tripping son Kyle were really the problem…..trying to run an offense more suited for Elway,,,,,Earth to Shanana, Elway is retired!
    McNabb has been lied to by Andy Reid and then dissed by Shanana….he should tell the NFL to kiss his butt and move on…….oh, wait a minute, he can’t, because of the lockout!

  43. rajbais says: May 15, 2011 11:28 PM

    A Delaware news site … so credible!!!!

    Especially when it’s close to Philly (a city we know doesn’t care about McNabb)!!!!

    I think this “QB of the future” crap is overshadowing very truthful history.

    Kurt Warner started over a 2nd year first-round pick Matt Leinart, Brett Favre started over the ex-second round pick Tarvaris Jackson and ex-first round pick Aaron Rodgers; Steve McNair played ahead of an ex-first rounder Kyle Boller, Mark Brunell got the Redskins into the playoffs with 1st Round rookie Jason Campbell on the bench in 2005, Kerry Collins started ahead of ex-first rounder Vince Young in 2008, and the Bengals want Carson Palmer back despite the 2nd round selection of Andy Dalton.

    McNabb just needs to find elite receivers that flow with his personality and have a camera and/or more reporters spreading the message of “great workouts”.

    Then multiple teams’ receivers will tell the coaches, owners, and GM’s “McNabb’s still got it!!! Bring him in!!!”

    Mr. Delaware reporter dude, relax!!! Despite the bad 2010 season he can still do it!!!

  44. brewdogg says: May 15, 2011 11:36 PM

    @seanx40

    You just lost any shred of credibility you might have had here.

    It’s one thing to put up a defensible argument, but McCoy? Hasselbeck? But aside any hatred for McNabb you might have, but to put these on your ‘for sure’ list and Brees on your ‘maybe’ list, and not mentioning Matt Ryan at all?

    Congratulations, with this one post, you just ensured that no one will ever take anything you have to say seriously.

    @mrjumpman23

    Same thing, opposite direction…. McNabb ahead of Rivers and Rodgers? After those top 6, you could make an argument that would draw split support matching him against Cutler, Freeman, Schaub, Vick, etc. But trying to put him any higher isn’t realistic.

  45. sterlingrodgers says: May 15, 2011 11:58 PM

    “So, a black guy is racist against blacks and a guy obviously uses the word “spade” as a racial slur in his post and it gets thumbs up?

    Awesome reader base here.”

    I hear what you’re saying, but honestly, the ‘spade’ reference slipped past me the first time. There are so many (potentially) racially loaded terms, and some of them overlap with common cliches. I know that I have at least once used the “call a spade a spade” phrase when making sporting arguments, only to cringe immediately afterwards when I realized that it might be misconstrued. If the racial angle was intended, than that’s to be condemned- but let’s not forget that these turns of language can be made with innocent intentions also.

  46. seanx40 says: May 16, 2011 12:00 AM

    Ummm…have any of you watched Mc Nabb play in the last 5 years? He is not good. Not even average anymore. He was truly terrible in Washington. And poor in Philly. When he played. Which wasn’t often.

  47. riverhorsey says: May 16, 2011 12:11 AM

    McNabbs problem is he’s seen as a fat cat that’s lost the fire.

  48. ccooww says: May 16, 2011 12:34 AM

    I love the comment, Mc Nabb groom a young QB. If a guy does not know the plays and wont wear a wrist band….you expect this guy to groom a young QB. Get real.

  49. skins359 says: May 16, 2011 1:04 AM

    seanx40 says:
    May 15, 2011 7:24 PM

    “There’s not 32 QBs better than McNabb. ”

    No, but there are 20-25 QB’s better than him. And many more cheaper and smarter than him. And even more tougher, less fragile ones.
    ================
    It’s not about the bottom line in most cases. Other teams are trying to see what they have in young QB’s. Some are looking for mentors for young QB’s but simply don’t want to break the bank. As others have pointed out many teams have better QB’s and if they’re similar in terms of talent they still have an edge in knowing the playbook. Plus a lot of the teams McNabb could start for gain little if anything by bringing McNabb in.

    Basically McNabb is going to visit teams when he’s released and say I’ve done this and that, I was in a bad situation in Washington but I can still play, pay me big and give me the starting job. Maybe not as aggressively as that but you get the point.

  50. d3murf says: May 16, 2011 1:16 AM

    seanx40 ?!?!? A lot of those are questionable. Men Lie. Women def. lie! But Stats don’t!

    Mcnabb’s Stats
    230 td’s opposed to 115 Int’s
    36250 pass yds
    3400 rush yds

    Last yr Mcnabb in a NEW System w/ HORRIBLE SURROUNDING TALENT had a HORRIBLE YEAR! 14 td’s and 15 int’s…Just 1 yr Earlier he had 22 td’s and 10 int’s in 14 games and made the probowl as well as another playoff berth.
    Statistically he has one of the best TD to INT ratios EVER! So calling him avg. is a bit of a stretch. He might not be Brady or Manning but statistically he can hang with anyone else over the course of a career. Other notable guys with the same amount of Games Played

    Drew Brees (who has a ring though) for his career has 235 td’s and 132 Int’s (with crazy talented offenses in San Diego and NO) Brees is the man, but his stats and Mcnabbs are extremely similar.

    M. Hasselbeck 176 td’s 128 Int’s –Not better than Mcnabb sorry

    While I’m convinced that A-Rod in a short sampling is Better than Mcnabb–and maybe even Big Ben (not statistically though) I can’t say Colt, Bradford, Flacco. M. Ryan, Jay Cutler (lol), Vick (Had a great yr but avg. most other yrs) Sanchez etc. are better than a guy who did good to great for a whole DECADE.

    Bottom Line–put Mcnabb with a talented offense like the Vikings and all of you will see- it was being in Washington that had him subpar..STATS don’t lie

  51. halo81 says: May 16, 2011 1:52 AM

    Ok, this thing is getting out of hand an hilarious.

    McNabb a Top 5 quarterback? That’s a joke.

    McNabb not even a Top 20 quarterback? That’s a joke.

    Granted, I don’t work in the league anymore, but from someone who has some experience, here’s the list I’d take over him on TALENT. I’m not counting age and promise (guys like Sam Bradford).

    Tom Brady
    Ben Roethlisberger
    Peyton Manning
    Philip Rivers
    Eli Manning
    Aaron Rodgers
    Matt Ryan
    Drew Brees

    That’s without a doubt. Eight guys.

    Others I’d consider:

    Matt Schaub
    Joe Flacco

    So, at the worst that puts McNabb 11th in the NFL for me.

    If you give McNabb a WR like Andre Johnson with a running game, he’s good for 25 TDs a season even at this age. He still has a cannon for an arm.

    This coming from someone who is not a McNabb fan.

    You people throw around hyperbole like it’s going out of style.

  52. halo81 says: May 16, 2011 1:52 AM

    Hell, forgot Vick was back in the game. I’d take Vick over him as well. Make that nine guys.

  53. physcoward says: May 16, 2011 1:56 AM

    he isnt starter material anymore,i cant blame the skins at all!

  54. pigeonpea says: May 16, 2011 4:18 AM

    mrjumpman23 says:
    <bAre you serious???? 1.Peyton Manning 2. Drew Brees 3. Tom Brady 4. Donovan McNabb 5. Phillip Rivers… Donovan McNabb is still an elite QB, he just got shipped to the wrong team. Look at Washington’s franchise, the management stinks, and the coaching staff is terrible.

    Sorry, dude. Aaron Rodgers is far more deserving than McNabb for that Top 5 list. You can base my opinion on over 3900 passing yards and a 93+ QB rating every year since taking over as starter, being able to make plays on his feet when the offense breaks down, and unlike your boy Donovan, actually winning a Super Bowl.

    That being said, I still think McNabb has enough left in the tank to land a starting job somewhere in the league. I just don’t consider him a Top 5 QB by any stretch of the imagination.

  55. bloggingainteazzy says: May 16, 2011 6:22 AM

    McNabb is better than Flacco right now?! Your out your freakin mind!!

  56. skins359 says: May 16, 2011 7:26 AM

    Look at Manning. Most of his receiving corps is mangled. His offensive line at the very least can’t get anything resembling a push in the running game, on top of that I’m convinced that they wouldn’t do so well protecting QB’s that weren’t on Manning’s level when it comes to getting rid of the ball and assisting the Center in calling protection.

    So bottom line is we have a guy in Manning who this past year didn’t really have a great supporting cast on offense, and a defense which was best described as average. Yet this guy is throwing for over 4,500 yards with 30+ TD’s to go with only 17 ints. That’s an elite top 10 QB.

    Yes McNabb’s supporting cast wasn’t very good however thats still not an excuse to post a sub 80 rating and throwing bounce passes on third down. He had a pro bowl TE, a 1,000 yard receiver, and a solid #2 guy in Armstrong. Any elite QB could post respectable numbers with that. And as far as the line is concerned the fact of the matter is they were much improved by the end of the year so it’s not like McNabb never had time to throw.

    I think back to the Titan’s game where McNabb had plenty of time to throw (ie no excuses) yet for the life of him he couldn’t take advantage and burn the Titans defense like an elite QB would be able to. In fact he threw an Int after sitting in the pocket for around 6/7 seconds untouched. Had it not been for a dropped Int in overtime and a stupid unsportsman like penalty that followed the Titans could have very easily beat the Redskins.

  57. bleedgreen says: May 16, 2011 7:38 AM

    The problem with all these guys listing people ‘better’ and ‘worse’ than McNabb is, that even if McNabb is ‘better’ than someone like, say, Josh Freeman or Joe Flacco, no one is putting those guys on the bench to play Donny5 for a season or two. The only places where McNabb is truly the best option would be Buffalo, Seattle (If Hasselback is gone), Denver (If Orton is gone), Arizona, Miami or MAYBE San Fran if Alex Smith isn’t back and they choose not to start Kaepernick.

    Miami makes the most sense, if they keep Marshall or he’s actually healthy, but they may still see potential in Henne and don’t want to ruin his confidence. Again.

    Rivera is starting Cam Newton day 1. Mike Brown won’t pay McNabb to come in. Everyone else either has someone better, or has someone that WILL be better than McNabb is already playing.

  58. 706vet says: May 16, 2011 7:39 AM

    The use of the word “spade” was racially charged? We have entered PC/Marxist insanity. Weird.

  59. moochzilla says: May 16, 2011 8:28 AM

    “The use of the word “spade” was racially charged? We have entered PC/Marxist insanity. Weird.”

    Yes, actually that word’s double meaning is common knowledge to most people over a certain age (35-40+) but I don’t think that the guy who used it knew that and certainly never intended it to be used that way.

    It’s from a bygone era. If you had racist grandparents you’d have definitely known, it was among the derogatory terms they used back in the day (30’s?).

    Just an unfortunate coincidence of words.

  60. moochzilla says: May 16, 2011 8:36 AM

    Think of it like a GM, not a fan.

    Manning, Brees, Brady, Rodgers, Big Ben (SB wins) are no question better than McNabb. That’s 5.

    Flacco and Ryan are more desirable because their talent is close and they have tons of upside and years left. That’s 2 more.

    Then you go with stat guys (largely what McNabb is now) with better stats…Rivers, Shaub. That’s 2 more.

    And then I have to give Eli a slight edge because of the wins and the SB ring. That’s 1 more.

    That makes McNabb’s ‘ceiling’ about #11. Max. And you can argue that you’d rather have younger guys like Stafford or Sanchez – again, because of the youth and upside.

    When you take into account how many years McNabb has left, how much he’ll cost, he isn’t an overly attractive option – even if none of the drama was true.

    He’s like Drew Bledsoe at the end – can still play and do some things, but he’ll never be the best option.

    Maybe if a contender’s QB gets hurt in week 4 he can come in and help. But even than is questionable.

  61. whatsitlikehere says: May 16, 2011 8:52 AM

    Orton is better than McNabb

  62. oranjellojones says: May 16, 2011 9:05 AM

    I have to wonder if anyone defending McNabb as still an elite QB actually watched his play last season or has payed attention to the fact that he refuses to do certain things to prepare at this stage of his career…like get in top shape. Working out with a few guys in AZ in April and May doesn’t cut it either. There’sd a reason the eagles were willing to let the guy go who took them to 5 NFCC games, and there’s a reason Shanahan is willing to cut ties after one season even with the hit the Redskins are going to take. DM is DONE.

    Halo and Sterling et al…hate to break it to you geniuses but that term has no racial overtones or meanings whatsoever. It’s based on terminology Greek in origin and originally was “call a bowl a bowl”, it then evolved into card playing and became associated with that. Educate yourself, you might not look like such an ignorant fool in the future. Let me guess, you think the word N i g g a r d l y is rooted in racism too right? Way to out yourself for being a card carrying moron.

  63. oldbyrd says: May 16, 2011 9:43 AM

    I wonder how he’d look as a back up to Vic in Philly. He still has some gas in the tank and knows the system well. I think with Kolb gone, The Birds are going to need a good back up.

  64. eagles512 says: May 16, 2011 9:44 AM

    Please tell me some of those names on the list of QB’s better than McNabb is a joke. You can’t be serious thinking some of those guys are better than him. Maybe Bernard Hopkins is posting on here.

  65. moochzilla says: May 16, 2011 9:45 AM

    Orangejellojones…

    What part of the country are you from? Perhaps this is regional in nature – because I can tell you 100% that the term does have a racist connotation when used in a certain way.

    Not sure if it is a Philly thing, a 1930’s-1950’s thing, or an upstate PA Irish thing…but it is a term that is used by some as a racial epithet.

    I didn’t “read it somewhere”. I didn’t hear it second hand. I heard it in real life many, many times over the course of my life.

    There weren’t many Greek scholars in my neighborhood growing up, ya know what I’m saying?

  66. touchdownroddywhite says: May 16, 2011 9:45 AM

    dirtmcgirt24 says:
    May 15, 2011 6:59 PM
    Didn’t I see this standout player listed in the Top 100 Players of 2011 on NFL Network recently? Simply not possible that such a top player could be finished.
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    Ummm. Marvin Harrison ring a bell? Same thought process applies to both cases.

  67. moochzilla says: May 16, 2011 9:50 AM

    Orangejellojones…

    To clarify…

    That single word can be racist, not the phrase “call a spade a spade”.

    I agree with you – I wouldn’t expect anyone to claim the usage of the entire phrase (call a spade a spade) is racist.

    But when you use it in this context you open yourself up to false attacks. Which is cause enough not to use it.

  68. melonnhead says: May 16, 2011 9:54 AM

    I am not an Eagles fan or a Redskins fan, and not really a fan of McNabbs. But the guy doesn’t act like a fool, doesnt dress like a fool, doesn’t get arrested, doesn’t make assinine “slavemaster” or Bil Laden statements, and he pays his bills.

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    I guess you don’t remember his “black on black crime” and “I put us at the top of the NFC” comments.

  69. CKL says: May 16, 2011 10:32 AM

    moochzilla says:
    May 16, 2011 9:45 AM
    Orangejellojones…

    What part of the country are you from? Perhaps this is regional in nature – because I can tell you 100% that the term does have a racist connotation when used in a certain way.
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    I’ve heard it as a racist slur also, but not by my generation. I live in the Midwest. Like you said, it’s more from people who were born in the early 1900s-1930s or so.

  70. daniel9093 says: May 16, 2011 10:57 AM

    I agree with this article. As a long time Philly fan I know that McNabb wants to be “the guy” not a QB to come in and groom the would be starter. His ego the size of Texas will NOT allow that. As for the Vikings they have a guy named Joe Web that can step in and play until Ponder is ready to go. Bringing in Mcnabb will just hurt that locker room when he draws his “line in the sand” like he did in Philly.

  71. originalsteelcurtain says: May 16, 2011 11:12 AM

    Don’t love or hate McNabb, but perception will become his reality. Getting booted from Philly and Washington won’t help his cause. To me he is on the downside of an averge career.

    There are very few teams who might take him on at this point. I’d list Cinci, SF, and Seattle as the most likely. I’d expect a one year rent-a-Vet deal.

  72. moochzilla says: May 16, 2011 11:52 AM

    Just note that every time you see: “why is he so disrespected, he’s such a classy guy” that McNabb and his team have spent a lot of time and effort making sure you react that way.

    McNabb actually was a victim this time with Hopkins, but he overplays the card so often it becomes trite.

    “Black on black crime” being the definitive statement on his worldview and sense of self.

  73. clinttaurus says: May 16, 2011 12:27 PM

    skills-wise, McNabb is probably still in the middle 3rd of current NFL QBs but trending downward quickly…not really a question of whether he’s “better” than 10-25 of the younger middle pack guys, because those teams wouldn’t give up their promsing QBs for a guy clearly in decline like him anyway…not all guys are cut out to play the role of mentor/future backup to highly-drafted young gun

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