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Appeals court grants NFL’s motion for stay, lockout still on

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The NFL lockout is still on.

According to multiple reports, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit has granted the NFL’s motion for a stay, meaning the lockout remains in effect.

In other words, the owners got what they wanted, and the players will be disappointed.

The timing of the news that the appeals court has granted the NFL’s motion for a stay comes as a surprise, because on Friday the court clerk said not to expect a ruling on the stay to come on Monday. But the ruling on the stay has, in fact, come on Monday.

So now we’ll all wait another three weeks, until the Eighth Circuit hears arguments on the appeal. And the players will remain locked out.

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73 Responses to “Appeals court grants NFL’s motion for stay, lockout still on”
  1. siggy00 says: May 16, 2011 6:30 PM

    RIP NFL…….

  2. derekjetersmansion says: May 16, 2011 6:30 PM

    According to Albert Breer, the league is making a proposal tomorrow in mediation.

  3. theembalmed says: May 16, 2011 6:31 PM

    Best thing that coulda happened.

    Now maybe the players will stop asking for everything and not give anything.

  4. brmorgen82 says: May 16, 2011 6:32 PM

    It’s only a matter of time before the players turn on De Smith. It’s really their own fault, just listen to that gasbag for one press conference and it tells you all you need to know. I’d have been a scab from the start if I were a player. Where’s the mandatory PFT “Wow.” ??

  5. thesmiteofthewicked says: May 16, 2011 6:32 PM

    Stupid political BS.

  6. ar1888 says: May 16, 2011 6:32 PM

    maybe the players will take the negotiations seriously tomorrow. Get a deal done!!!!!

  7. brutus9448 says: May 16, 2011 6:32 PM

    And the fans migrate to the NBA.

  8. saints25 says: May 16, 2011 6:33 PM

    De Smith,who?..Worst thing the NFLPA has done…Is mess with the guys with the most toys…Players (free agents) are going to ask questions now..

  9. stoutfiles says: May 16, 2011 6:33 PM

    Good. Just end the season so I can get things done on Sunday.

  10. footballfanatic3431 says: May 16, 2011 6:33 PM

    Finally some leverage for the owners.

    Not that it matters. Players won’t truly try to negotiate until the 8th circuit overturns Nelson’s ruling.

    But it’s a good first step to forcing the players to actually negotiate a long term CBA.

  11. downsouth49er says: May 16, 2011 6:34 PM

    A pathetic mess!! I’m over all of this now, if and when they play oh well. F the NFL!!

  12. r8rsfan says: May 16, 2011 6:34 PM

    And the NHL/NBAplayoffs will continue with some compelling games, MLB will keep playing, NASCAR will keep racing and Arena Football teams will keep putting up incredible scores. Tons of options people, and NCAA will be right there when we get the itch for football.

  13. realitypolice says: May 16, 2011 6:35 PM

    I look forward to another 3 weeks of all of us, including me, posting different variations of the same points for three weeks while we wait for something new to comment on.

    How depressing.

  14. canuck54143 says: May 16, 2011 6:35 PM

    If the courts find the decertification to be a sham can the owers seek damages from the players????

  15. hobartbaker says: May 16, 2011 6:35 PM

    Chester Pitts was leveraged deep into the backfield by his opponent.

  16. Rhode Island Patriots Fan says: May 16, 2011 6:36 PM

    To quote Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C.: “Surprise, surprise, surprise!” While I didn’t predict this result, I’m pleasantly surprised.

    To prevail on the stay pending appeal, the NFL had to demonstrate that there was, among other things, “a strong showing of likely success on the merits.” That finding doesn’t bode well for the players when the Eighth Circuit finally rules on the league’s request to overturn Judge Nelson’s order to lift the lockout. Is this the “ace in the hole” the players had in mind with their litigation strategy?

    If Judge Nelson’s order is eventually overturned, DeMaurice Smith will have to come back to the mediation table with his hat in hand, ready to make a meaningful concession. The late Gene Upshaw made such a concession via the salary cap. He understood that compromise is the quickest way to get a new CBA that will ensure years of NFL labor peace, which is what NFL fans want most. “Uptown Gene” gave us two decades of labor peace. “De” Smith has given us four words: “We are at war!”

  17. chapnastier says: May 16, 2011 6:37 PM

    Great news here! Now maybe the players will offer a counter proposal to what the owners already offered. You know, how negotiations are supposed to work?

  18. Deb says: May 16, 2011 6:38 PM

    Can’t Kraft, Mara, Rooney, and some of the other sane owners stage a coup and stop this crazy thing while there’s still time?

    And for all the “fans” who keep posting that we haven’t lost anything yet … if you don’t understand or appreciate the free-agent period, you’re not big enough fans to be posting here. Football is a strategic game. Teams can’t plan strategies if they don’t know what personnel to plan around.

  19. montsta says: May 16, 2011 6:38 PM

    I wish I could just leave this broad (the NFL), but she is too damn sexy.

  20. weber9152000 says: May 16, 2011 6:38 PM

    Thank God for College Football !
    NFL will be back, just not this summer

  21. Julian says: May 16, 2011 6:39 PM

    The Lesson? Courts won’t solve anything, so long as players can go to judges that favor them, and owners can do the same.

    Mediation better start soon, and in earnest.

  22. smacklayer says: May 16, 2011 6:39 PM

    Love it. Another step towards ensuring that the NFL will survice in its current model. I also get a mild thrill knowing that it’s another legal smackdown for Debag Smith. i really can’t stand that guy and am happy to see him getting torched in court since this is the path he chose to take.

  23. thetwilightsown says: May 16, 2011 6:40 PM

    I don’t work for the NFL – I work for The Man, to feed my wife, my dog and myself. I’m a bartender and lifelong Raider Fan – the kind that can put full sentences together. (The kind that don’t become Charger fans or… fans of whomever else might be winning that week.)

    I totally side with the owners. Not because I love the owners – I side with them because it’s logical. If I owned my bar, I would tell any prospective bartender who didn’t like his pay – or cutbacks in schedule – that he/she was one craigslist ad away from being replaced. This is the world WE THE FANS KNOW.
    If there is any justice in this goofy place, THE PLAYERS WILL KNOW IT SOON ENOUGH.

    I say:
    MAKE ‘EM ALL PAY – All the frustration of being a cash strapped fan should finally come to a head, right here and now.
    We the fans should take a cue from the world outside and start a full on revolution by way of Twitter, facebook, carrier pigeons… whatever. I say: Boycott the first game of the season, on every level. No NFL Network. No games. No jerseys. No support of sponsors. ‘EFF ‘EM.

    And for the media teet-hangers who hover around the NFL like beggars: Imagine the human interest angle… “NFL FIRES ALL PLAYERS. KEEPS JERSEYS, TEAM NAMES – BUILDS ROSTERS FROM FAN BASES.”

    Dear *NFLPA: Crappy jobs available!

  24. vahawker says: May 16, 2011 6:40 PM

    Lets hope the owners act like men with an eye for the future and attempt to negotiate a fair deal that will ensure LONG TERM viability and growth of the league. If they go into any negotiations looking to chop the player’s head off because they think they have them over a barrel I will be officially done with the NFL.

    Of course, that assumes the players are even willing to negotiate until Brady(poor poor Tommy Brady) is settled. Maybe we should expect to settle in for months more of the same BS which should pretty much guarantee the two sides will likely never see that exponential growth they are arguing over.

  25. jleimer says: May 16, 2011 6:41 PM

    The question is will we be waiting till June 3rd for a significant ruling by the courts or do the players begin their dissent from within? I say the dissent begins because the players blindly followed their leader and now the consequences are starting to come.

  26. canuck54143 says: May 16, 2011 6:42 PM

    Bet the players wish they elected Troy Vincent Now…

  27. bradjames33160 says: May 16, 2011 6:42 PM

    The ancient Romans had the right idea when it came to prosecuting criminals and scumbags, CRUCIFY DeMORON Smith and appease the football gods. Strap him up by his pinkies.

  28. pdxpanther says: May 16, 2011 6:43 PM

    theembalmed

    The players aren’t the one’s who opted out of the deal. They also aren’t the ones stating they need more money without proving it by opening the books. They negotiated the previous deal, the owner’s took it as a “swan song” for Paul Tagliabue to have never dealt with labor disputes. It’s the owner’s fault for signing this deal and now they are the ones who have to pay for it. That’s why Mike Brown and Ralph Wilson voted no. Maybe if the owner’s weren’t so sentimental in letting Paul go into the sunset, they wouldn’t have been stuck with the crappy deal. I don’t blame the players for not wanting to give that back, because they know they will never get it back if they give it up again.

  29. duffer58 says: May 16, 2011 6:44 PM

    The players are the ones who have done everything in good faith. They are being asked to give back when all owners are making money and their franchises are worth more and more.
    Nobody in their right mine can be for the owners.

  30. touchdownroddywhite says: May 16, 2011 6:46 PM

    For all those who just want football, this is far better than a no rules approach that results in a couple teams landing 90% of available top tier talent, which cannot be undone later by any stretch of the imagination.

    Thank you court system for not ruining football just yet!!

    Yeah, go ahead. I see the thumbs down coming already.

  31. ultada says: May 16, 2011 6:46 PM

    Bush destroyed our economy and now we paying for his mistakes again. Media should be following the money of these owners and see their political contributions. Players case is rock solid. There is something rotten in America.

  32. skoobyfl says: May 16, 2011 6:47 PM

    This forces the players to the table either now or missing game checks, they’re going nowhere. The players attempting to outsmart the Billionaire’s club is now over.

    Sit down, work it out & you have a great paying job starting Sundays in the fall.

  33. fallcoon says: May 16, 2011 6:47 PM

    Goodbye NFL!

  34. ezwriter69 says: May 16, 2011 6:47 PM

    Not sure how anyone could say the players are asking for everything, when they’d have been happy to just re-sign the old agreement for another 5 years… it’s the owners who are asking for more, the players are happy with what they have now. Of course, franchises throughout the league are in terrible financial shape and the owners need a better deal, they’re just not making any money, right? Right…

  35. dynasty233118488 says: May 16, 2011 6:47 PM

    Way to go, guys….bravo…

  36. snnyjcbs says: May 16, 2011 6:48 PM

    You will be waiting a lot longer then another 3 weeks. That is the Date for a Hearing, by the time that plays out and the Court makes a decision you will be waiting at least 6 weeks maybe longer. Way to go owners, bring these Greedy Players to their Knees.

  37. detlions says: May 16, 2011 6:48 PM

    Anger is what keeps me coming back for all these updates and what not. Im slowly becoming numb to all of this BS, and that most def. won’t entice me to view any NFL related sites or programming. My NFL following has officially begun to diminish!

  38. bradjames33160 says: May 16, 2011 6:49 PM

    Pat Bowlen has already told we Broncos fans I’m sorry for the lockout. Apology accepted Mr. Bowlen, it’s not your fault DeMoron isn’t 1/50th of the negotiator Gene Upshaw was. Player schills need to realize the game continues on. In my 28 years on planet Earth (almost 29), I’ve seen hundreds, if not thousands, of Denver Broncos players. The cycle goes on and owners need to be in charge. You CANNOT have inmates run the asylum. The NBA is excelling in spite of itself because my Dallas Mavericks beat the refs (and Commissioner Stern’s will) to advance to the Western Conference Finals. MLB will continue to plummet as we see the Red Sox and Yankees/Phillies, etc. as the only teams with a chance. Now players, I adjure you GET YOUR $&^$% rear ends back to the table and NEGOTIATE NEGOTIATE NEGOTIATE. Do not relent until a new CBA is completed.

  39. canuck54143 says: May 16, 2011 6:49 PM

    Note to NFL players… They have a sale on Ramen noodles at the local Pick n Save…

  40. snnyjcbs says: May 16, 2011 6:49 PM

    Looks like Free Agency this year may be Toast.

  41. famucancer says: May 16, 2011 6:50 PM

    Cacs railing against the players as if they have a clue about the actual merits of any part of this entire case. SMH

  42. ezwriter69 says: May 16, 2011 6:51 PM

    Rhode Island, Uptown Gene was better known as The Puppet, and that wasn’t for nothing…

  43. willycents says: May 16, 2011 6:51 PM

    Cue the players comments on here about cheating judges and more lawsuits and un-american and all that.
    It is nice. IMAO, to see the system working as it is supposed to work, even though it may not please a tiny minority of people.

  44. oldhamletman says: May 16, 2011 6:52 PM

    the players shammed…. and now they’ve sitting around drinking coffee at mediation instead of trying to fix the problem…. Ive got zero sympathy for those whiners….

  45. tommyf15 says: May 16, 2011 6:52 PM

    theembalmed says:
    Now maybe the players will stop asking for everything and not give anything.

    You’re conveniently forgetting that in the negotiations the players didn’t ask for anything at all.

  46. marjorine1 says: May 16, 2011 6:52 PM

    I want one side to get the leverage to hold the other side over the barrel. That is when you’ll see action. Maybe this June ruling will do that one way or the other. I honestly don’t care. I just want to watch the Lions this fall.

  47. bangyourhead4 says: May 16, 2011 6:53 PM

    This is all so irritating. Just get this done already.
    The NFL now stands for No Fan Loyalty. Enough is enough!

  48. ravenator says: May 16, 2011 6:53 PM

    Good, I’m happy with this ruling! I look forward to more slavery quotes from the overpaid multi-million dollar athletes who think they’re being wronged.

  49. straitalk says: May 16, 2011 6:54 PM

    I could care less whether the billionaires or millioniares win, they are all greedy bastards toying with America’s game, a pastime that the average American uses to escape from the mundane responsibilities of working and raising a family with limited income and resources without gratitude from anyone. They say its just a game, but its how many American men spend the little leisure time they have before they keel over and die from a heart attacks and strokes brought on by too much stress and too little comfort in a otherwise unfufilling life. Its a stress reliever, but its just a game…, right?

  50. plotkin35 says: May 16, 2011 6:54 PM

    I sit just me, or does De Smith look like a PIMP every time he’s going to one of these meetings? He’s got the hat, a cane, and a nice pinstripe suit. All the dude needs is a gold Grille set of teeth and a Krunk-Juice Cup and he’s all set.

    He has no interest in the players, only making a name for himself. He’s doing a good job at making a bad name for both.

  51. tednancy says: May 16, 2011 6:55 PM

    GREAT NEWS. Now the players will have a much greater incentive to return to bargaining.

    The next step will be the re-certification of the union, a new deal that’s fair, and the return of football for all.

    Time to move forward.

  52. njpurplehaze says: May 16, 2011 6:56 PM

    Great….no football on 2011 means I have to spend more time with my wife and kids. END THE LOCKOUT NOW!

  53. darthvader89 says: May 16, 2011 6:56 PM

    Both sides are just going to play hardball until the players start bleeding out.

  54. whitecastleisafoodgroup says: May 16, 2011 7:08 PM

    No lockout for the Lingerie Football League. Better than watching Brady and his foo-foo pony tail bounce around.

  55. vahawker says: May 16, 2011 7:12 PM

    Deb says: May 16, 2011 6:38 PM

    Can’t Kraft, Mara, Rooney, and some of the other sane owners stage a coup and stop this crazy thing while there’s still time?

    As soon as you find some player leadership to get their sorry butts in to negotiate in good faith with an eye toward the long term and a willingness to end this crazy thing. Good luck finding any.

  56. nflfan101 says: May 16, 2011 7:17 PM

    ezwriter69 says: May 16, 2011 6:51 PM

    Rhode Island, Uptown Gene was better known as The Puppet, and that wasn’t for nothing…

    ——————-

    And he got the players what everyone recognizes as a great deal in 2006. Not bad for a puppet.

    FACT: D. Smith walked out of CBA talks, decertified the union, had certain players file suit, did not attend at least one court ordered mediation session, and doesn’t encourage any players to attend the current mediation.

    Any fans, players, or PFT employees that really want football need to tell D. Smith to get his butt into negotiations.

  57. locutus says: May 16, 2011 7:18 PM

    ultada says: May 16, 2011 6:46 PM

    Bush destroyed our economy and now we paying for his mistakes again. Media should be following the money of these owners and see their political contributions. Players case is rock solid. There is something rotten in America.

    Sure is. It’s filled with idiots like you.

  58. palinforpresidentofnorthkorea says: May 16, 2011 7:28 PM

    Poor Deb. She couldn’t imagine that DeMo would get trucked by a smarter team of lawyers.

    Just like the players – who should now turn on DeMo and hire his azz for his failed scorched earth strategy.

  59. theembalmed says: May 16, 2011 7:31 PM

    it was known when the deal was signed that the owners would opt out. Brown and Wilson wouldnt vote yes to spend 50 cents on a candy bar.
    Tagliabue’s exit was the absolute worst timing. The players wouldnt extend the current deal so the owners in good faith gave to much. now DeDumbass steps in and they wont bargin in good faith.
    truth of it all is that tagliabue started this mess and desmith made it worse. at least the owners have put forth deals while the NFLPA wont and put all their chips on the courts solving it for them cause they dont have a leg to stand on

    pdxpanther says:May 16, 2011 6:43 PM

    theembalmed

    The players aren’t the one’s who opted out of the deal. They also aren’t the ones stating they need more money without proving it by opening the books. They negotiated the previous deal, the owner’s took it as a “swan song” for Paul Tagliabue to have never dealt with labor disputes. It’s the owner’s fault for signing this deal and now they are the ones who have to pay for it. That’s why Mike Brown and Ralph Wilson voted no. Maybe if the owner’s weren’t so sentimental in letting Paul go into the sunset, they wouldn’t have been stuck with the crappy deal. I don’t blame the players for not wanting to give that back, because they know they will never get it back if they give it up again.

  60. ravenator says: May 16, 2011 7:31 PM

    njpurplehaze says:
    May 16, 2011 6:56 PM
    Great….no football on 2011 means I have to spend more time with my wife and kids. END THE LOCKOUT NOW!

    ———————

    You’re a model citizen.

  61. realitypolice says: May 16, 2011 7:32 PM

    Deb says:
    May 16, 2011 6:38 PM

    And for all the “fans” who keep posting that we haven’t lost anything yet … if you don’t understand or appreciate the free-agent period, you’re not big enough fans to be posting here. Football is a strategic game. Teams can’t plan strategies if they don’t know what personnel to plan around.
    =========================

    There is a difference between understanding and appreciating free agency and feeling like you have some God-given right to follow it and to have it happen at the exact time of year you expect it to.

    And you haven’t been deprived of it anyway. It will occur when the dispute is settled, whenever that is.

    And who died and made you arbiter of how big of an NFL fan you need to be to post here?

    I think we all understand that football is a strategic game. God, how condescending.

    I guess that the more level headed of us and are trying to detach emotion from logic realize that free agency has to occur at some point and that the abbreviated off season will, if anything, add to the pace and urgency of the strategic maneuvering that is such a part of the game.

  62. tommyf15 says: May 16, 2011 7:40 PM

    bradjames33160 says:
    MLB will continue to plummet as we see the Red Sox and Yankees/Phillies, etc. as the only teams with a chance.

    How can you say that when over the past ten years, nine different teams have won the World Series?

  63. Deb says: May 16, 2011 7:41 PM

    vahawker …

    This is nothing more than the culmination of a long-brewing war between owners who want a no-rules draft-free NFL where players go to the highest bidder and they don’t have to share their revenues with small-market teams … and owners who respect the antitrust exemptions and revenue-sharing structure that allowed the league to reach its current uber profitablility. The players have never been more than pawns in this Battle of the Titans (and I don’t mean Tennessee).

    I’m just hoping the more sensible–and less selfish–owners can talk down the Midas wannabes who don’t mind destroying the league to get their gold.

  64. starderup says: May 16, 2011 7:41 PM

    Unless there are substantially more owners than 32, and a bunch of them can throw a football 60 yards, or run a 4.3 40, they are in trouble.

  65. alexanderisland says: May 16, 2011 9:16 PM

    This is a good day; seeing that the court has allowed the stay and tipped their hand that maybe the lesser court extended themselves, it is for all practical purposes saying that the decertification is a sham, and that the ‘trade association’ will have to reconsitute and become the NFLPA II. With a union, they can then negotiate tete a tete, without any leeches, err lawyers calling the shots. No more lawsuits, no more litigation, etc.

    I recall someone making a comment that D. Smith wanted a fight, to push up his political image, etc. etc. and that he wasn’t really interested in negotiating, but that he wanted to litigate. DeMoronice wanted a fight, started a fight, and now he’s been dealt a death knell. As a lawyer, he wanted to pursue litigation and this has pretty much backfired; I don’t see him staying much longer as president of the Player’s Union – the league has them over a barrel. If the NFLPA just wants to procrastinate and behave like a sultry child, the owners can concoct up a one sided agreement and stuff it down their throats as their ‘last best offer’. The owners had to lock out to avoid the players instilling a myriad of anti-trust lawsuits due to them operating with a set of across the board rules with a non union environment; now this pantomime is over and hopefully the whole sorry episode will be over in a few weeks.

    Thank God for reasonable judges.

  66. Deb says: May 16, 2011 9:21 PM

    @realitypolice …

    Why, yes, I could be more condescending, but then I’d be you–the guy who constantly makes himself an arbiter of what people post on PFT. Now what is your name again? Oh yes … realitypolice, the guy who tells the rest of us how it is. Thank you, Mr. Pot.

    You’ve posted many times how silly fans are to worry because you’ve got your fingers on the pulse of all this and know just when it will end and in the meantime are having a high old time enjoying the impasse. Bully for you. I don’t share your views or those of other fans who don’t pay attention to off-season activities–or want them “abbreviated.” And I’m as entitled to post my opinion as you are, Mr. Pot.

    I’m also sure the more level-headed among us understand that the free-agent period isn’t just about what we get to watch or when. It’s also about players and their families relocating. Or perhaps that’s just understood by those of us who don’t think–or post–by trying to prove we have more testosterone than the girl.

    Now if you have anything else to say, just imagine whispering it as you kiss my lovely lil Southern backside. Have a nice night. :)

  67. oldbyrd says: May 16, 2011 9:35 PM

    All of you that took exception with me calling Dung Smith a commie waste of time…..How”s he working out for ya? Get real employees. Get back to work or find another job.

  68. njpurplehaze says: May 16, 2011 10:03 PM

    njpurplehaze says:
    May 16, 2011 6:56 PM
    Great….no football on 2011 means I have to spend more time with my wife and kids. END THE LOCKOUT NOW!

    ———————

    You’re a model citizen.

    If I was smart enough, I’d be insulted.

  69. vahawker says: May 16, 2011 10:24 PM

    Now if you have anything else to say, just imagine whispering it as you kiss my lovely lil Southern backside.

    How lovely????????

  70. westsidespearchucker says: May 16, 2011 10:47 PM

    2 adults that used to spend $1000 a year on NFL activities no longer will. We are tired of the fans taking it in the rump. Color us gone. Dan and Rhonda have now left the building….for the last time.

  71. tialen says: May 16, 2011 11:25 PM

    My season tickets will not be renewed.

  72. gobolts4lyfe says: May 17, 2011 5:25 AM

    “So now we’ll all wait another three weeks, until the Eighth Circuit hears arguments on the appeal. And the players will remain locked out.”

    You can wait. I have better things to do with my summer..

  73. puregreed says: May 17, 2011 9:32 AM

    Im finally with you deb, you got me at “kiss my lovely lil southern backside”

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