Jim Irsay has a solution for the lockout

AP

The mediation song and dance re-started Monday, and we have every reason to believe it will prove fruitless.  One of the NFL’s 32 owners has a better idea.

“Jeff Saturday and I could get this thing done, on cocktail napkins, over a long lunch at Rick’s Boatyard . . . it’s not that hard!” Colts owner Jim Irsay wrote on Twitter Monday.

It’s not such a bad idea.  In fact, the NFL has already tried it when Commissioner Roger Goodell met with Saturday for a beer during March labor negotiations.  Nothing really came of that, except the endless spin cycle.

Every time we argue about who’s fault it is and who did that and who said this..spin,spin,spin..who cares! Get something done!” Irsay said.

It’s taken two months for the owners to start sounding like the fans.  Progress?

62 responses to “Jim Irsay has a solution for the lockout

  1. It’s taken two months for the owners to start sounding like the player. Progress?
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    Now all we need is for the players to start sounding like the owners and actually try to make concessions towards a mutually agreeable deal.

  2. Hmmm, who is buying the beer, or is Vrabel going to provide it?
    Let me think, 1700 players to talk with over a beer, that is some 70 cases. Damn, can I be the negotiater over the beers? Anyone who wants part of that dru..er I mean negotiation, thumb this and you are in….lol…(burp)

  3. Jim Irsay maybe should not focus so much on being cute and clever on Twitter, maybe spend more time trying to get a CBA done,…however Jim is a guy about 60 years old that likes to live in Twitter, with cool music lyric quotes, say hip things, to seem like hes a 25 year old hip guy,…Iv had to unfollow Jim because its very disturbing,…its just a simple case of a guy that is clueless, but was born rich, was given a pro sports team for a Christmas from his dad,..now spends his days Tweeting, because he has nothing better to do.

  4. @Jimirsay For every week after july 15 that’s there’s no new CBA,self-imposed players/owners fines 2 fan charities..get out of the courts!

    I like that one better!

  5. Maybe Irsay and his fellow owners could fire their commish and find someone more willing to negotiate like a grown up. Saturday should do the same w/ Smith on his side.

  6. Dear Jim;

    Please send your $1,000,000 fine for running your mouth the the league by this weekend or interest will start accrueing.

    Sincerely;

    Roger Goodell

    C.C.
    Jerry Jones, Robert Kraft, Robert McNair, Dan Snyder, Stan Kroenke

  7. Maybe they should move the negotiations out of town … in the middle of the night … like his dirtbag father did with the Colts.

  8. If 18 games is still on the table, I don’t get why no one has brought up the idea of Expanding the Playoffs, which i wrote about months ago…..agree or disagree, worth talking about.

  9. Always with the biased jab at the owners, yet i am sure you are another PFT writer that claims you haven’t chosen a side. Bull!!

  10. It’s a great idea! But then De Smith wouldn’t get to take credit for sticking it to the league. So it’ll never happen.

  11. It’s taken two months for the owners to start sounding like the player. Progress?

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    The owners are saying “Let’s get back to negotiations”,and “Let’s get a deal done”. The players are saying “We hate Godell”, and “The lockout is great!”. Doesn’t sound the same to me.

  12. Sounding like the players? Well if ever there was an owner irreverent enough to roll around on a bed and pretend to prank call Goodell it would probably be Irsay. 😀

  13. Irsay’s Colts are a small market team. However, he spends to the cap to keep his team among the championship contenders every year. He is obviously not one of the hardliners trying to wring maximum revenue contribution out of the players. If more owners would break ranks with the leaguespeak like Irsay has, fans would have a better barometer to judge which teams are stalling the negotiation process. We alreay know that Mike Brown,Ralph Wilson, and Jerry Richardson are among the hardliners, but who else are among the 9 owners ( or more) who can prevent any agreement?

  14. I believe if the players sat down with the owners, with no lawyers and no one from the league office, this could be settled in a day. I really do.

    I also believe that if the players had chosen Troy Vincent to head the NFLPA instead of De Smith, we would also have an agreement by now.

    Vincent was an Upshaw disciple, thus he would have focused on having a working relationship with Goodell instead of a contentious one.

    People often called Upshaw Tagliabue’s lap dog, but the fact is the players benefited enormously under his leadership.

  15. The right solution is relatively easy.

    But this is labor-management negotiations; the right solution will only happen after every other solution has been flogged to death.

  16. “It’s taken two months for the owners to start sounding like the player. Progress?”

    What? Seriously, what?? When have any players said this? They are off complaining about being “slaves”, the truth behind 9/11, blaming owners for everything and making dumb videos. I mean how is Irsay sounding at all like a player?

  17. It’s taken two months for the owners to start sounding like the player. Progress?
    ___________________________

    Yeah… if it weren’t coming from a dry drunk like Irsay.

  18. Irsay is a free spirit and more of a black sheep owner. And, he actually loves football. The Jerry Joneses, Mike Browns, and Jerry Richardsons of the world seem ready to dig in and wait.

  19. Nothing will happen because Smith doesnt want it to happen. The guy wont even bend a little bit.I blame him 100% for us having no football

    If you go to PFT, back before the lockout they have a story about De Smith, in this story he says to the players “PREPARE FOR WAR” those are not the words of a guy that wants to negotiate, that sounds like a guy that wants all or nothing, therefore you and I should blame Smith and create a windstorm to eliminate him from the equation

    Also why is there a rep for the nfl and nflpa but not the fans, i mean it IS OUR MONEY that they are negotiating with and we have NO SAY, or write up about 20 different contracts that are reasonable for both sides and submit them to a third party rep (a fan rep)

  20. I read this on twitter earlier today…..

    ….no way I thought this would end up a post on PFT…..

  21. Typical greedy owner, wanting to meet at Rick’s Boatyard. Jeff Saturday eats at Penn Station.

  22. Every time we argue about who’s fault it is and who did that and who said this..spin,spin,spin..who cares! Get something done!” Irsay said.

    ************************

    So, the players are supposed just grab their ankles and trust the owners. Yeah, right.

  23. It’s taken two months for the owners to start sounding like the player. Progress?

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    The same players that walked out of negotiations? And once again the wafer thin veil of impartiality comes crashing down.

    tommyf15 says: May 16, 2011 12:31 PM

    Of course, we wouldn’t be in this mess had the owners not opted out of the old CBA.
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    Of course, we wouldn’t be in this mess had the players not opted of negotiating a new CBA.

  24. eagiants says: May 16, 2011 12:35 PM

    Maybe Irsay and his fellow owners could fire their commish and find someone more willing to negotiate like a grown up. Saturday should do the same w/ Smith on his side.

    Remind me again who walked away from the negotiations…The same commish that has repeatedly asked for more negotiations?

  25. The 1982 lockout was settled in four days, after both sides agreed to table the extraneous stuff. So there’s hope.

  26. I have a better solution, lock them all in a room with only water until a deal is reached. This is my way to guarantee a deal withing 7-8 days.

    If there is no deal after 10 or 11 days have we really lost anything 🙂

  27. well why don’t you and jeff saturday go have some lunch at Rick’s Boatyard, write something up and post it here so we can vote it up or down.

  28. The owners are saying to the players that they need to take a $600 million paycut for the good of the sport.

    The players haven’t agreed because they’re not convinced that’s true.

    So Jim…what’s the solution to that?

  29. Quote rbro83
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    The owners are saying to the players that they need to take a $600 million paycut for the good of the sport.

    The players haven’t agreed because they’re not convinced that’s true.

    So Jim…what’s the solution to that?

    —————————————-

    Actually that last offer was 350 million with alot less practices, contact and 82 million to go to retired players. But what is 250 million bucks between friends?

    How about that counter offer from the players?

    *Crickets*

  30. willycents says: May 16, 2011 12:29 PM

    Hmmm, who is buying the beer, or is Vrabel going to provide it?

    Vrabel? Just don’t let Pat McAfee buy it. 😀

  31. The sad news is that, if Goodell had agreed to split an order of wings, the deal would have been done after the first meeting.

  32. vahawker says:
    The same players that walked out of negotiations?

    As per the owners’ insistence the players would have to wait six months until after CBA expired to decertify. The players decertified at the last possible hour.

    You know, the two sides had TWO YEARS to get a deal done, and they didn’t. They even had a federal mediator involved. What difference would another few weeks have made?

  33. The 1982 lockout was settled in four days, after both sides agreed to table the extraneous stuff. So there’s hope.

    The 1982 lockout did not have De Smith leading the madness.

  34. Hey readimgram1, thanks for the info on the owners latest offer, I didn’t know that. Do you have a link where I could read more about it?

    Anyway, it still seems to me that the owners are asking the players to take a large paycut without giving them a convincing reason to do so.

    The players counterproposal: the old CBA.

  35. “readimgram1 says:
    May 16, 2011 1:47 PM
    I have a better solution, lock them all in a room with only water until a deal is reached. This is my way to guarantee a deal withing 7-8 days.”

    Paging Mr. Tarkington…….

  36. Jim Irsay’s real plan is to tempt the players with cocaine and hookers. That’ll get a deal done quickly

  37. tommyf15 says: May 16, 2011 2:22 PM

    You know, the two sides had TWO YEARS to get a deal done, and they didn’t. They even had a federal mediator involved. What difference would another few weeks have made?

    Guess you could rationalize it that way. Of course, there were no negotiations to walk away from during that two years(for whatever reason-maybe lack of anything but “interm” leadership from 8/08 until the Weasel came into power in 3/09 had something to do with it). Of course, when the players refused to come off of their “we going to war” stance, you are probably right, the players would not have made any honest attempt to negotiate regardless of how many more weeks they went.

  38. vahawker says:
    Of course, when the players refused to come off of their “we going to war” stance

    The owners made it clear that they were “going to war” by planning to lock the players out. There wasn’t a fight until the owners started one.

  39. Me: Dude, give me a million bucks!

    readimgram1: Why should I?

    Me: No way am I going to tell you why. But how about we make it $500,000?

    readimgram1: Well, since you are negotiating in good faith and so willing to compromise, I feel compelled to meet you halfway.

    So according to your negotiating rules, you now owe me $500,000. When I receive your check I’ll gladly say that the players are in the wrong.

  40. “The owners made it clear that they were “going to war” by planning to lock the players out. There wasn’t a fight until the owners started one”

    Sad part is, I think you honestly believe that.

    Do you think that they would not be in exactly the same position if the CBA had gone all the way to term? The only thing the opt-out did was push the timetable for this exact scenario ahead a few years.

    BTW, the whole war comment came straight from the mouth of the weasel you and your fellow players elected to “lead” you. What you thinking? Why didn’t you select someone with ties to the game who cared about more than just making a name for themselves ? It started when you selected DeIdiot instead of someone with an understanding of league and a love for the game.

  41. rbro83 says:
    May 16, 2011 4:34 PM
    Me: Dude, give me a million bucks!

    readimgram1: Why should I?

    Me: No way am I going to tell you why. But how about we make it $500,000?

    readimgram1: Well, since you are negotiating in good faith and so willing to compromise, I feel compelled to meet you halfway.

    So according to your negotiating rules, you now owe me $500,000. When I receive your check I’ll gladly say that the players are in the wrong.

    Applause for an outstanding analogy! 🙂

  42. Lock all the players plus Jimmy Smith up in a room, tie them up and strap steaks all over them, release wolverines into the room, then see what they have to say.

  43. vahawker says:
    BTW, the whole war comment came straight from the mouth of the weasel you and your fellow players elected to “lead” you. What you thinking? Why didn’t you select someone with ties to the game who cared about more than just making a name for themselves ? It started when you selected DeIdiot instead of someone with an understanding of league and a love for the game.

    1. I’m not sure how the rumor got started that I’m an NFL player, but I’m not. I haven’t played football since high school.

    2. The most effective labor leader in the history of professional sports was Marvin Miller, who had no previous ties to baseball.

    3. The least effective labor leader in the history of professional sports was Gene Upshaw, a former NFL player. It’s 2010 and the players are still paying the price for Upshaw’s ill-advised strategy in having the players strike in 1987.

  44. 2. The most effective labor leader in the history of professional sports was Marvin Miller, who had no previous ties to baseball.

    THAT says all I need to know.

    3. The least effective labor leader in the history of professional sports was Gene Upshaw, a former NFL player. It’s 2010 and the players are still paying the price for Upshaw’s ill-advised strategy in having the players strike in 1987.

    Wait…didn’t you earlier say DeIdiot was just doing what the players told him to do and he couldn’t do anything on his own. But NOW the strike of 1987 was Upshaw’s fault. You mean he had the ability to unilaterally make decisions the players DIDN’T want him to, but De Idiot can ONLY do what the players want to do? So none of this can be his fault?

    WOW your union colored ati-business glasses sure must have gotten fogged with that logic.

  45. vahawker says:
    Wait…didn’t you earlier say DeIdiot was just doing what the players told him to do and he couldn’t do anything on his own. But NOW the strike of 1987 was Upshaw’s fault.

    1. I never said that about Smith.

    2. Since Gene Upshaw was President of the NFLPA during the 1987 strike, I feel pretty confident placing some of the fault on his shoulders over it.

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