League calls for a deal to be done now

AP

With the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit giving the NFL a significant victory in Monday’s ruling granting a stay of the order lifting the lockout — and dropping very clear hints that the league will prevail on the appeal of Judge Nelson’s ruling — the league has issued a response that calls for the two sides to get back to the bargaining table and get a deal done.

“It is now time to devote all of our energy to reaching a comprehensive agreement that will improve the game for the benefit of current and retired players, teams, and, most importantly, the fans,” the NFL said in a statement forwarded to PFT.  “This litigation has taken the parties away from the negotiating table where these issues should be resolved.  We remain confident that the appellate court will determine that this is a labor dispute that should be governed by federal labor law.  But the league and players, without further delay, should control their own destiny and decide the future of the NFL together through negotiation.”

The players were much more muted in their response to the ruling, as expected.  “The NFL’s request for a stay of the lockout that was granted today means no football,” the NFLPA* said in a statement posted at NFLLockout.com.  “The players are in mediation and are working to try to save the 2011 season.  The court will hear the full appeal on June 3.”

But with the court poised to reverse Judge Nelson’ ruling on or after June 3, the league has the leverage.  The question is whether the league will try to crush the players with it, or whether the league will do a deal that the players will regard as fair.

Sal Paolantonio of ESPN reports that a new proposal has been made by the league, and that the players are considering the proposal and will respond.  The process could go back and forth on Tuesday, and there’s no reason why the parties can’t keep talking without the mediator’s involvement after Tuesday, if momentum is building to get a deal done.

The best outcome, in our opinion, remains a long-term CBA that both the league and the players regard as fair.  Though many people just want this mess to end, it needs to end the right way in order to keep it from happening again a few years down the road.

Then again, the league could decide that the best way to keep this from happening a few years down the road comes from pushing the litigation to a conclusion, so that the non-asterisked NFLPA won’t be able at some future juncture to decertify and sue if faced with a lockout.  Hopefully, any settlement will include an agreement to seal that door in the future.

75 responses to “League calls for a deal to be done now

  1. The best outcome, in our opinion, remains a long-term CBA that both the league and the players regard as fair.
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    you think?

  2. Wait, the past month your opinion has been “the players need to win this so the lockout ends and football begins” no matter what happens to the league.

    Now, the players lose this round, and your opinion is “the best outcome remains a long term CBA”

    Youre all over the board

  3. The players need to fire DeMaurice Smith. This guy is a clown. He doesn’t care if a deal gets done either way. He’s just trying to make a name for himself. The sooner he’s gone the better.

  4. The players have no desire to get a deal done now. The owners have been saying they wanted a deal from the begining of this sham law suit. Thankfully the jury system is on the right side of history today.

  5. The best outcome, in our opinion, remains a long-term CBA that both the league and the players regard as fair. Though many people just want this mess to end, it needs to end the right way in order to keep it from happening again a few years down the road.”

    Yes, yes, a thousand times yes. This is what many have been saying from the beginning. It’s not about getting A deal done quickly. It’s about getting the RIGHT deal done. Of course we want that quickly, but it should be something that has the potential to last.

    Fingers crossed…

  6. money buys everything! that includes judges that are suppose to be non partisan! roger pinnochio and his 32 can go where the sun doesn’t shine!

  7. “Though many people just want this mess to end, it needs to end the right way in order to keep it from happening again a few years down the road.”

    Funny thing is Mike…..you have been the most vocal of the people pushing to end this lockout and play football without regard to its effect on the long-term interests of the game.

    Of course, that was when the players had the leverage. Now that the NFL has the leverage, you are sing a different tune. HHmm….tell me you aren’t biased.

  8. It’s whatever at this point. Make a deal don’t make a deal. It doesn’t put food on my plate and heat in my home. This is about as beligerent and obscene as a free agent basketball player without a championship holding an hour long special to announce the the team he wants to play for.

  9. Please god yes!! If
    You do not
    Like the deal make a counter offer… Keep going till you reach and agreement BOTH of you!!! Enough already!!!

    For the FANS!!!

  10. Thank goodness they stopped Kessler trying to tear down ever part of the NFL (including the draft, salary cap, and every other rule in the NFL), at least for the moment.

    It’s actually pretty magnanimous that the NFL is making a proposal at all. If they acted like the players have been acting, they would say “this is war!” and just wait to win in the June 3 appeal. It really does look like Goodell is trying to preserve the integrity of the game. I don’t really like the guy but if you remove the personality and look at his actions only (including the conduct penalties last year and movement on concussion issue) it really does look like he is trying to preserve the integrity of the game.

    Guys like Kessler would like to destroy the game is it is in it’s current state so he and his player’s agent son can get rich, among others.

  11. The NFL is striking precisely the right tone with the players here. Now is the time to reach out and settle the antitrust case and all other litigation, and move forward on a new CBA. Of course, it will be interesting to learn what impact, if any, Judge Doty’s “TV damages” ruling will have on the leverage dynamics for any upcoming negotiations.

  12. I sorta stated earlier that no progress would be made until the players start losing money or until the court files in the owners favor.

    With this Amazing news, I think we might actually get a deal done tomorrow!

  13. “The players are in mediation and are working to try to save the 2011 season.”
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    At least that’s a start. First time I have seen anything like this from the players’ side in a long time. I hope the owners allow a fair deal instead of sitting back and waiting for a great deal for the owners. (The “take back our league” rhetoric from Jones should not resurface)

  14. So what, big deal? Who wants to bet this does little to actually getting on with football. I could care less at this point. Get back to me when it’s decided one way or the other. I’m tired of the cry wolf crap. Put up or shut up. You can only yank my chain so many times before I start biting back.

  15. Does anyone else get the feeling that deep down, PFT would love for the two sides NOT to come up with an agreement?

    I think they love their doom and gloom stories.

  16. Screw the players they can cut the salary cap in half and still make plenty of money. they should get health insurance for life and be happy with whatever they make. They got a free college education they should know how to save some money.

  17. The good thing about this is that pretty soon, De Smith will stop all the rhetorics. I hope in the new CBA, they will abolish both decertification and lock out. The owners have already offered another proposal to which the players have to negotiate. So far that hasn’t been De Smiths strongest suit

  18. duster1982 says:
    May 16, 2011 7:54 PM
    Wait, the past month your opinion has been “the players need to win this so the lockout ends and football begins” no matter what happens to the league.

    Now, the players lose this round, and your opinion is “the best outcome remains a long term CBA”

    Youre all over the board
    ========================

    No, he’s not.

    The best long term solution has always been a long term CBA. Neither side denies that.

    The best short term solution to bring back football in the shortest amount of time, was that the lockout be lifted.

    They are mutually exclusive.

  19. “The players are in mediation and are working to try to save the 2011 season….” Snort. Like when they walked away while their negotiators were still negotiating but didn’t tell anybody directly? Guess those Alternate Draft Extravaganza party favors will be hitting eBay pretty soon.

  20. moggy6actual says:
    As part of a new CBA, the league should insist that DeMaurice Smith have no further involvement with the NFLPA.

    That would be illegal.

    At this point lifting the lockout wouldn’t be a giant deal, as there’s only three weeks remaining before the June 3rd trial. That’s the one that matters.

    Then again, the league could decide that the best way to keep this from happening a few years down the road comes from pushing the litigation to a conclusion, so that the non-asterisked NFLPA won’t be able at some future juncture to decertify and sue if faced with a lockout. Hopefully, any settlement will include an agreement to seal that door in the future.

    So you’re hoping that the players have no leverage the next time the owners decide to lock them out?

    That’s very pro-owner of you, sir.

  21. Just saw Smith’s comments about the players are going to keep fighting and they have been preparing for 2 years. Before you even see the deal you jack wagon? What the heck? GET TO THE TABLE!!

  22. who cares what the owners think. i would pay to see the teams play if they didn’t even have a team name, though, as a fan of the only publicly owned team, i don’t see the packers going anywhere. seriously: if the bills or bengals were just a bunch of guys with different colored jerseys, i’d watch them play. who cares who owns the brand?!? who cares about the owners?!?

  23. Maybe the courts can rule that the 10 players who filed the lawsuit should pay the leagues attorney’s fees.

    When the big names know there is money at risk, maybe they won’t be so quick to attach their names to stupid lawsuits, and start caring about things as much as the no names who need to play football to make their house payments.

  24. I am sick to death of litigation. Lock them in a room, secured with a series of Claymore anti-personal devices (THIS SIDE TOWARD ENEMY)tripwired to the door. Get a deal done, because if you come out of that door without one, you will be blown into red mist. I am not pro-player. I am not pro-owner. I am pro-ME, and I want my offseason back. I find it impossible to believe that they cannot find an equitable way to divide an ever growing $2 billion stream of revenue without a judge.

  25. U heard it here first, deal in principle by thurs with votes expected to pass … Everyone has enough of this.

    Oh yeah, someone crank call Chester Pitts and tell him everyone thinks he is a no name idiot. It’s people like you that make us remember why the fans are siding with the owners … You idiot.

  26. Clearly, the league has the leverage. Should the league offer a “fair” deal to the players and get mostly what they want or should the owners just squash the players “union” like a bug? I would say the latter, just because D. Smith is an a-hole, but the former is better for the overall health of the league.

    For the love of god, please shut up D. Smith and K. Mawae!!!!

  27. Man I wish I had any faith at all in either side to do the right thing. And D Smith is about as good for these negotiations as Terrell Owens is for team chemistry!

  28. Over the past several weeks, we have been hearing that if the owners were serious all 32 should attend mediation so that they can make decisions. Now there is a proposal from the owners, let’s hope the NFLPA who this site claims can make a deal for all players actually respond to the proposal and not the rhetorics of “the players have been preparing for the lockout for 2 yrs”

  29. Please help me understand, how can the players agree to anything when there is no union? Don’t they need to re-form the union first?

  30. Why does the players union say that the NFL “doesn’t want football to happen” ?

    Can’t the NFL just use ‘other’ replacement players? Football would still happen in that case.

  31. I’m not a big De Smith fan either, but he is simply working for his employers, just as Goddell is. If Smith is taking a hard line, it’s because the player reps are telling him to do so. If De decided to go live on a desert island tomorrow, he would be replaced by another guy who, while perhaps not wearing goofy hats, would still be taking the same line. Ditto for Goddell – if he left tomorrow, the next Commissioner would be making almost identical statements on behalf of his employers. This isn’t about personalities, but rather issues on which two sides fundamentally disagree.

  32. jakek2 says:May 16, 2011 7:56 PM

    Call their bluff De. The owners need you more than you need them. This ruling does nothing.

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    Da Playas be mercenaries. Dere will be mo’ ov um next year!

  33. This isn’t a huge shock, what is a huge shock is the NFL wants a deal now before they win on June 3rd. I don’t know but to me that just goes to show they wanted to make a deal from day one. I hope the players see that and realize the owners don’t want this leagal BS, they just want to make a deal and keep the league open.

    I know that sounds kinda bad considering they put up the lockout, but did they have a choice? If the Owners had keeps football open anything they did could have been considered an Anti-Trust violiation.

    The NFLPA* is on notice the Owners are not going to drag this out just to get a better deal if you want a fair deal make one now.

    Get It Done

  34. Maybe the players will do something crazy and actually respond to a proposal. Though has anyone asked Drew Brees if his head hurt from reading so many words?

  35. Two things should be happening in short order:
    1.) The end of the lockout because the players have no leverage or water-wings.

    2.) The end of the short, tumultuous and exceedingly inefficient tenure of D. Smith a NFLPA head. They need a negotiator not a litigator as their lead.

  36. The court system has given the owner’s clear leverage. The owner’s intent from the onset was to significantly alter the pre-existing CBA (loose translation, “crush” the players). I would suspect the players should now be prepared to grab their ankles and I do not expect ownership will have the courtesy to use lubricant.

  37. The NFLPA must not remember replacement players. That will happen if they don’t settle. Fans route for the team.

    The players are not going to get what they want & may be worse off than they would have been just agreeing to the terms of the current agreement.

    DeMaurice Smith is the blame. Clown.

  38. “The players are in mediation and are working to try to save the 2011 season. The court will hear the full appeal on June 3.”

    The players are working to try to save the 2011 season? That’s a good joke. Besides, shouldn’t that read:

    “Drew Brees is trying to single handedly save the season for the fans while devising the cure for cancer that he will dispense for free”

  39. vikesfansteve says:
    The NFLPA must not remember replacement players.

    The NFL can’t use replacement players during a lockout. That’s illegal.

  40. Alright players – while I’m hesitant to say I’ve been on your “side”, I’ve definitely understood where you’re coming from and why you pursued the course of action that you did. That said, it looks like you’re about to get spanked by the court so while you gave it a go – your attempt at gaining leverage in these negotiations seems to have failed. So get it done. Stop screwing around and get it done!!!

  41. PFT says: “… so that the non-asterisked NFLPA won’t be able at some future juncture to decertify and sue if faced with a lockout. Hopefully, any settlement will include an agreement to seal that door in the future.”

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    They tried that with the 2006 CBA, but the union did a sham decertification and had certain players file suit.

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    No where in your post did I see that D. Smith was ready to negotiate.

    Your post just said the players said: “The players are in mediation and are working to try to save the 2011 season. The court will hear the full appeal on June 3.”

    In other words, D. Smith wants more litigation.

    ==================================

    If the NFL and owners were so bad, they (1) would not have agreed to the 2006 CBA which was too one sided towards the players, and (2) would not make an offer now. The TRUTH is that the owners want a fair deal, but D. Smith does not.

    FACT: D. Smith walked out of CBA negotiations, decertified the union, had certain players file suit, did not attend at least one of the court ordered mediation sessions, and now does not encourage any players to attend mediation.

    Fans, players, and PFT employees that really want football need to tell D. Smith to get his butt into negotiations.

  42. really: you care about the corporation? the name “cardinals”? if they were the same players out there playing would it matter who the owner was? if there wasn’t one? why do all you people care about who owns the team? packers fans don’t!

  43. if the bills or bengals were just a bunch of guys with different colored jerseys, i’d watch them play. who cares who owns the brand?!? who cares about the owners?!?

  44. anybody who thinks a deal is getting done? PFFT!
    anybody find it ironic that the players are asking for the number they are asking in the tv contract suit? about the amount the owners want back from the players….
    NO FOOTBALL.

  45. I finally figured out where all the player’s money went from all the unnecessary roughness calls GODell levied against the players last year. He is using it to pay for the NFL defense fund against the players! Genius, pure genius.

  46. Best thing to do, everyone take paycuts and pay the fans a little cash. I will then forget that both sides are money hungry. End of lockout, football continues. Everyone is happy.

  47. dallasavengers says:
    May 16, 2011 8:02 PM
    “Though many people just want this mess to end, it needs to end the right way in order to keep it from happening again a few years down the road.”

    Funny thing is Mike…..you have been the most vocal of the people pushing to end this lockout and play football without regard to its effect on the long-term interests of the game.

    Of course, that was when the players had the leverage. Now that the NFL has the leverage, you are sing a different tune. HHmm….tell me you aren’t biased.

    Truer word have never been written on this site.

  48. The fact is that Smith is an ambulance chaser who only knows how to file law suits,and he is even a failure at that,since the court of appeals has now told him he has lost and will lose even worse on June 3rd !!!
    The players can get a good deal done now,probably about the same deal they could have had 2 Months ago if they had not walked out of the negotiations. If they wait until the Eighth Circuit rules totally against the players (Smith) on June 3rd,the players may not be able to get as good a deal as the owners are willing to give them now.
    The owners have said they wanted a fair deal through negotiations from day one and have never altered their stance ,even through all the garbage we have seen from the union idiots. I have more respect for the owners now than ever before,I don’t know if I would have been so easy on the union if I were an owner and I had the upper hand as they do.

    Better negotiate in earnest for the first time Mr. Smith,or risk getting crushed.(oh,too late,it’s already over for you ! ).,

  49. Sorry, the players are greedy.

    I understand businessmen needing X amount of return on Investment.

    Players do not have to play football. Yes, they can get hurt, but it is their CHOICE to play. There are thousands of other careers that they can take up.

    It is getting real boring listening to athletes who are millionaires constantly complain, calling Roger Goodell a variety of names. How about if you did not have football? How about if you made what the guys in the 60’s and 70’s made?

    The owners have been very fair the last 5 years and have made many players rich. This game constantly marked by players “retiring” at age 35? Golfing and signing autographs forever forward?

    Sure, the average player’s career is what 4-5 years? Well, they make more money than plenty of President’s and VP’s. Many just because they are born fast. It is all so old.

    I say shut it down for a year. Come talk to us in June of 2012.

  50. The owners will try to bury the players with a BS proposal and things will only get worse. This whole situation could have been avoided if the owners had never called the players PARTNERS!

  51. There’s still time to muck about with the process. Things will turn bad if this resolved at a time that causes games to be cancelled. The season ticket holders have already payed for the upcoming season. I could see a class action suit against the NFL in such circumstances. So as the players and owners continue with their Johnson measuring contest, all both sides are doing is pissing everyone off!

  52. “The question is whether the league will try to crush the players with it, or whether the league will do a deal that the players will regard as fair.”

    Their first offer was pretty fair IMO.

  53. BlahhhhhhhArrrrrrrrrrgh, Who cares, a deal will get done, before the season starts, just a matter of 2 days from now or 2 Mths. from now. Too much to lose on both sides. Frankly, The Wheels on this Drama Bus fell off a long time ago for me. Really how many times can anyone take looking at DeMocheese and his pimp hats, and Godell and his perfect hair and superanal uptight mannerisms. Tired of hearing about Judge dookie, judge Judy, blah blah. Sp F U – NFLPA, NFL, CBA, PFT, R2D2, LBJ, Wake me up when the season starts, until then I will enjoy spending time outdoors with my family while attempting to pay my bills week to week as these D-bags figure out how to split the billions.

  54. Has anyone thought about this?

    They’re fighting over $9 billion … who is paying for Federal Courts to Litigate and Mediate?

    The Fans are getting screwed from all angles here!

  55. So who thinks the guy smiling in the picture is really smiling because he won the bet that Smith and Goodell would shake hands again?

  56. I’m so tired of hearing that they want to get this done, “…and, most importantly, the fans”. They don’t want to do s*** for me, you, or any other fan. If “the fan” was of any importance to them this would’ve been settled a long time ago.

  57. I hope the league treats the players fair. It is obvious that they were mislead by D Moron Smith . Some of us saw this instantly.That being said ….come on league lets do the right thing for the players and be fair. Thousands of satisfied employees accross our country make business grow and prosper. Lets be fair, it will only make things better for both sides.

  58. Funny thing is Mike…..you have been the most vocal of the people pushing to end this lockout and play football without regard to its effect on the long-term interests of the game.

    Of course, that was when the players had the leverage. Now that the NFL has the leverage, you are sing a different tune. HHmm….tell me you aren’t biased.

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    Players = Union (wink, wink) = MSNBC’s unwavering support = PFT (I guess, judging by the liberal bias that has been thrown our way recently) = Good

    Owners = Coporate types = Fox News = Tea Party = All that is wrong with the world (including all wars (this includes all wars (regardless of whether the USA existed or not), poverty, global hunger, etc)

    Is the correct Mike? Just want to make sure we are seeing your true colors

  59. Players = Union (wink, wink) = MSNBC’s unwavering support = PFT (I guess, judging by the liberal bias that has been thrown our way recently) = Good
    Owners = Coporate types = Fox News = Tea Party = All that is wrong with the world (including all wars (this includes all wars (regardless of whether the USA existed or not), poverty, global hunger, etc)
    Is the correct Mike? Just want to make sure we are seeing your true colors
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    ya think

  60. This is all just a bunch of hog wash!. De Mo is a naturally born idiot and needs to be replaced. He is a typical union moron hell bent on destroying another company. I sincerely hope both the players and the owners get their differences settled and get this thing over with so we will have meanigful football this year.

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