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		<title>By: fedupsaintsfan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fedupsaintsfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 12:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Done.  My season ticket has been &quot;SOLD&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Done.  My season ticket has been &#8220;SOLD&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: atmedic8daily</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[atmedic8daily]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 04:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Back &amp; forth &amp; back &amp; forth...medic8 accordingly]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back &amp; forth &amp; back &amp; forth&#8230;medic8 accordingly</p>
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		<title>By: narutofan10</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[narutofan10]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 02:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TIM says: May 16, 2011 9:36 PM

The ruling that came today from the 8th circuit not only gave the owners the victory in the battle to keep the stay in place but they also stated in today’s statement that the owners are likely to win the verdict to overturn the liberal woman judge in Minnesota.
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that is a conservative for you has to bring up that she is a woman like none of them can&#039;t do anything except cook and clean seriously please be quiet and no i am not a liberal i am a little of both but seriously evolve it is 2011]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TIM says: May 16, 2011 9:36 PM</p>
<p>The ruling that came today from the 8th circuit not only gave the owners the victory in the battle to keep the stay in place but they also stated in today’s statement that the owners are likely to win the verdict to overturn the liberal woman judge in Minnesota.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
that is a conservative for you has to bring up that she is a woman like none of them can&#8217;t do anything except cook and clean seriously please be quiet and no i am not a liberal i am a little of both but seriously evolve it is 2011</p>
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		<title>By: commoncents</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[commoncents]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 02:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most players can&#039;t last another week.  This will be over soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most players can&#8217;t last another week.  This will be over soon.</p>
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		<title>By: jaggedmark</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/16/progress-in-mediated-talks-disputed/#comment-1067684</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jaggedmark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 02:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rock, paper, scissors. That settles everything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rock, paper, scissors. That settles everything.</p>
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		<title>By: dryheaveone</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dryheaveone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 02:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well, they do call this the rumor mill]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, they do call this the rumor mill</p>
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		<title>By: footballfan292</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[footballfan292]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 02:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Players will regain the leverage when Doty rules on the lockout insurance case.

Wash, rinse, repeat. That&#039;s what we will be faced with for at least a year. There will not be a 2011 season, folks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Players will regain the leverage when Doty rules on the lockout insurance case.</p>
<p>Wash, rinse, repeat. That&#8217;s what we will be faced with for at least a year. There will not be a 2011 season, folks.</p>
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		<title>By: oldbyrd</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 02:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[D SMITH certified dirtbag commie.  How&#039;s he working out for ya guys?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D SMITH certified dirtbag commie.  How&#8217;s he working out for ya guys?</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 02:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, bamasucks LOL

Hi, dickroy! Hope you&#039;re enjoying Mexico. 

Well, fellas, at least we&#039;ll still have the SEC :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, bamasucks LOL</p>
<p>Hi, dickroy! Hope you&#8217;re enjoying Mexico. </p>
<p>Well, fellas, at least we&#8217;ll still have the SEC <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: dallasavengers</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 02:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[grandsonofcoach says: 
May 16, 2011 8:52 PM 
Come on guys. This isn’t rocket science. The door is open a crack. League…you present a meaningful proposal that shows you’re serious. Careful though, don’t give away the farm on the first go. Leave a little room to give later. Ok, now players…don’t all freak out because the league didn’t bow to your every wish. Breathe. Breathe. Ok, now make a counter offer. See, it’s not so hard. Back and forth. Back and forth.
_________________________________

This presumes that the NFL didn&#039;t give a meaninful proposal the last time around.  To me, it seems like the NFL gave a pretty hardline proposal initially but move the ball and gave up alot prior to the expiration of the CBA.  If I am the NFL, I am not going to treat this negotiate as if it is just starting.  I am going to say.....hey we have already had to give, give, give on our end from where we originally started....now we need to see some movement on your side since you have totally refused our prior attempts to get a meaningful counteroffer from you.

So in short I think the NFL shouldn&#039;t negotiate against itself.  Don&#039;t bend until you see that the players are legitamately willing to compromise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>grandsonofcoach says:<br />
May 16, 2011 8:52 PM<br />
Come on guys. This isn’t rocket science. The door is open a crack. League…you present a meaningful proposal that shows you’re serious. Careful though, don’t give away the farm on the first go. Leave a little room to give later. Ok, now players…don’t all freak out because the league didn’t bow to your every wish. Breathe. Breathe. Ok, now make a counter offer. See, it’s not so hard. Back and forth. Back and forth.<br />
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<p>This presumes that the NFL didn&#8217;t give a meaninful proposal the last time around.  To me, it seems like the NFL gave a pretty hardline proposal initially but move the ball and gave up alot prior to the expiration of the CBA.  If I am the NFL, I am not going to treat this negotiate as if it is just starting.  I am going to say&#8230;..hey we have already had to give, give, give on our end from where we originally started&#8230;.now we need to see some movement on your side since you have totally refused our prior attempts to get a meaningful counteroffer from you.</p>
<p>So in short I think the NFL shouldn&#8217;t negotiate against itself.  Don&#8217;t bend until you see that the players are legitamately willing to compromise.</p>
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		<title>By: jleimer</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 01:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lets be honest folks in this era of pft and reputable sources we get alot of fluff and lies. Until June 3rd or until D Smith wants to get a deal done which I highly doubt because he wants the Benjamins we shall move forward to other stuff such as Baseball and the NBA who by the way has somewhat a steak in this because they too could face labor issues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets be honest folks in this era of pft and reputable sources we get alot of fluff and lies. Until June 3rd or until D Smith wants to get a deal done which I highly doubt because he wants the Benjamins we shall move forward to other stuff such as Baseball and the NBA who by the way has somewhat a steak in this because they too could face labor issues.</p>
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		<title>By: bamasucks</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bamasucks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 01:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lol thanks Deb. fwiw, i&#039;ve agreed with more than a couple of your posts in the past.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol thanks Deb. fwiw, i&#8217;ve agreed with more than a couple of your posts in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: TIM</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TIM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 01:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The ruling that came today from the 8th circuit not only gave the owners the victory in the battle to keep the stay in place but they also stated in today’s statement that the owners are likely to win the verdict to overturn the liberal woman judge in Minnesota.
The players should quickly vote to fire the ambulance chaser Smith,who only knows how to file law suits and doesn’t know the first thing about negotiating ,and then hire an NFL veteran who knows his stuff (like Gene Upshaw),and get the union re-certified and get a reasonable CBA agreement,before the players start losing paychecks and worse. 

As I have said all along,the owners can’t lose ,the only question there ever was is how much bigger a piece of the pie the owners will come away with.
Everyone knows that the old CBA was a bad deal for the owners and that they would take advantage of the clause in the contract to void the old CBA and start negotiations for a new,fair CBA.
Whatever deal the players finally sign,they could have had that or maybe even a better deal 2 Months ago !!!

The only thing that Smith was supposed to be  good for is to file law suits and win in court and he has failed miserably at that,since the owners have defeated Smith in court,it&#039;s over ! 
Fire the useless bum and hire someone who knows what they are doing,someone who will make a tough but fair deal !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ruling that came today from the 8th circuit not only gave the owners the victory in the battle to keep the stay in place but they also stated in today’s statement that the owners are likely to win the verdict to overturn the liberal woman judge in Minnesota.<br />
The players should quickly vote to fire the ambulance chaser Smith,who only knows how to file law suits and doesn’t know the first thing about negotiating ,and then hire an NFL veteran who knows his stuff (like Gene Upshaw),and get the union re-certified and get a reasonable CBA agreement,before the players start losing paychecks and worse. </p>
<p>As I have said all along,the owners can’t lose ,the only question there ever was is how much bigger a piece of the pie the owners will come away with.<br />
Everyone knows that the old CBA was a bad deal for the owners and that they would take advantage of the clause in the contract to void the old CBA and start negotiations for a new,fair CBA.<br />
Whatever deal the players finally sign,they could have had that or maybe even a better deal 2 Months ago !!!</p>
<p>The only thing that Smith was supposed to be  good for is to file law suits and win in court and he has failed miserably at that,since the owners have defeated Smith in court,it&#8217;s over !<br />
Fire the useless bum and hire someone who knows what they are doing,someone who will make a tough but fair deal !</p>
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		<title>By: commoncents</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[commoncents]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 01:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Gregg, if you or Mike had any allies along the owner side, maybe you could tip us to what the offer was or which direction the Owners were going to take this.  If I were an owner, I would NEVER grant anyone from PFT an interview.  Your bias hasn&#039;t helped anything!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Gregg, if you or Mike had any allies along the owner side, maybe you could tip us to what the offer was or which direction the Owners were going to take this.  If I were an owner, I would NEVER grant anyone from PFT an interview.  Your bias hasn&#8217;t helped anything!!</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 01:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does anyone else think Jeffrey Kessler looks a lot like Ed Helms? Is he missing any teeth?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone else think Jeffrey Kessler looks a lot like Ed Helms? Is he missing any teeth?</p>
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		<title>By: dickroy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dickroy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 01:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Deb!!  I am in Mexico right now. I agree with you. Tell us something that is really happening to get us some football]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Deb!!  I am in Mexico right now. I agree with you. Tell us something that is really happening to get us some football</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 01:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@bamasucks ...

This is the second time I&#039;ve agreed with one of your posts in the last few days. You have strange and scary powers. I&#039;m going to put on a cross and sprinkle garlic bulbs around my house. ;)

Roll Tide!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bamasucks &#8230;</p>
<p>This is the second time I&#8217;ve agreed with one of your posts in the last few days. You have strange and scary powers. I&#8217;m going to put on a cross and sprinkle garlic bulbs around my house. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Roll Tide!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: drstrangelust</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drstrangelust]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 01:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Am I the only one who remembers the debacle of the 1987 year???  We are on the verge of no season until November at the earliest.  And the league hasn&#039;t ruled out using scrubs to play this year.  


HOLY GOD...GET THIS EFFING THING DONE!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one who remembers the debacle of the 1987 year???  We are on the verge of no season until November at the earliest.  And the league hasn&#8217;t ruled out using scrubs to play this year.  </p>
<p>HOLY GOD&#8230;GET THIS EFFING THING DONE!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: bhester1906</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bhester1906]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 01:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s be honest, the only person who has made reports that panned out is Adam Schefter. He had a &quot;hunch&quot; that their would be a ruling today and low and behold what happened. There is no point in listening in any other reporters and their &quot;sources&quot;....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be honest, the only person who has made reports that panned out is Adam Schefter. He had a &#8220;hunch&#8221; that their would be a ruling today and low and behold what happened. There is no point in listening in any other reporters and their &#8220;sources&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: rcali</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rcali]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 01:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Love the drama.  Still enough suckers out there to buy the merchandise and pay for PSL&#039;s and tickets whenever they figure this out.  I would like to say thank you to those people so I can watch it on tv.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the drama.  Still enough suckers out there to buy the merchandise and pay for PSL&#8217;s and tickets whenever they figure this out.  I would like to say thank you to those people so I can watch it on tv.</p>
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		<title>By: yeti47</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yeti47]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 01:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We at least have the UFL! GO OMAHA NIGHTHAWKS!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We at least have the UFL! GO OMAHA NIGHTHAWKS!</p>
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		<title>By: jwill31579</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jwill31579]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 01:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I dont know which is worse: The coverage of these guys going back and forth, or the coverage of Brett Favre going back and forth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont know which is worse: The coverage of these guys going back and forth, or the coverage of Brett Favre going back and forth.</p>
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		<title>By: sc5000</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sc5000]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 01:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If anyone is surprised by this they should get their IQ checked.  Seriously, there isn&#039;t going to be any progress in talks until the court rules on June 3rd.  Both sides are waiting to hear the ruling because they both think they are going to win, both sides know that a ton of leverage comes with winning this court ruling, so they aren&#039;t going to put a deal in place when they can get a better deal after this court ruling.  Whoever wins in court on June 3rd holds all the cards, so nothing productive is happening now and people should have already known this...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone is surprised by this they should get their IQ checked.  Seriously, there isn&#8217;t going to be any progress in talks until the court rules on June 3rd.  Both sides are waiting to hear the ruling because they both think they are going to win, both sides know that a ton of leverage comes with winning this court ruling, so they aren&#8217;t going to put a deal in place when they can get a better deal after this court ruling.  Whoever wins in court on June 3rd holds all the cards, so nothing productive is happening now and people should have already known this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: hobartbaker</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 01:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a &quot;good news, bad news situation&quot;. Unfortunately usually in that order.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a &#8220;good news, bad news situation&#8221;. Unfortunately usually in that order.</p>
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		<title>By: nflfan101</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 01:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I read your last post that there was a breakthrough, I knew that there was not any breakthrough. 

A breakthrough will not come when the NFL makes an offer or tries to negotiate, a breakthrough will come when D. Smith decides to actually and in good faith respond to the NFL and owners in negotiations.

What did sort of surprise me though was the NFL&#039;s willingness to make another offer. But since the NFL and owners have been begging for negotiations, it is really not surprising that they are negotiating against themselves.

Prediction: This mess will not end anytime soon because D. Smith does not want it to end. He does not want to negotiate and I really do not think that he will negotiate until either the players tell him to or the players lose the anti-trust case.

FACT: D. Smith walked out of CBA negotiations, decertified the union, had certain players file suit, did not attend at least one of the court ordered mediation sessions, and now does not encourage any players to attend mediation.

Fans, players, and PFT employees that really want football need to tell D. Smith to get his butt into negotiations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I read your last post that there was a breakthrough, I knew that there was not any breakthrough. </p>
<p>A breakthrough will not come when the NFL makes an offer or tries to negotiate, a breakthrough will come when D. Smith decides to actually and in good faith respond to the NFL and owners in negotiations.</p>
<p>What did sort of surprise me though was the NFL&#8217;s willingness to make another offer. But since the NFL and owners have been begging for negotiations, it is really not surprising that they are negotiating against themselves.</p>
<p>Prediction: This mess will not end anytime soon because D. Smith does not want it to end. He does not want to negotiate and I really do not think that he will negotiate until either the players tell him to or the players lose the anti-trust case.</p>
<p>FACT: D. Smith walked out of CBA negotiations, decertified the union, had certain players file suit, did not attend at least one of the court ordered mediation sessions, and now does not encourage any players to attend mediation.</p>
<p>Fans, players, and PFT employees that really want football need to tell D. Smith to get his butt into negotiations.</p>
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		<title>By: bamasucks</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 00:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[who can follow this garbage? update: progress being made on a new proposal    update: no there isn&#039;t    update: yes there is

at this point, i don&#039;t really give a flip. cancel the freaking season and go a year without paychecks and revenue. i dare ya.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who can follow this garbage? update: progress being made on a new proposal    update: no there isn&#8217;t    update: yes there is</p>
<p>at this point, i don&#8217;t really give a flip. cancel the freaking season and go a year without paychecks and revenue. i dare ya.</p>
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		<title>By: tommyf15</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 00:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;siggy00 says:
RIP NFL 2011 season……

Just time to accept that fact.&lt;/i&gt;

Nah. 

If the owners win the 6/3 court case, the players will just accept whatever was offered. 

If the players win, the owners would have to unlock the gates.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>siggy00 says:<br />
RIP NFL 2011 season……</p>
<p>Just time to accept that fact.</i></p>
<p>Nah. </p>
<p>If the owners win the 6/3 court case, the players will just accept whatever was offered. </p>
<p>If the players win, the owners would have to unlock the gates.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 00:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like I said, we&#039;ve been teased too much with these getting-our-hopes-up rumors. Don&#039;t come sniffing around me anymore unless you &lt;em&gt;know&lt;/em&gt; someone&#039;s getting down to business. :mad:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said, we&#8217;ve been teased too much with these getting-our-hopes-up rumors. Don&#8217;t come sniffing around me anymore unless you <em>know</em> someone&#8217;s getting down to business. <img src='http://s2.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif' alt=':mad:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: canuck54143</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 00:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why don&#039;t the players just offer up a proposal and see if that gets the ball rolling?  If they want the fans back that&#039;s what they should do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t the players just offer up a proposal and see if that gets the ball rolling?  If they want the fans back that&#8217;s what they should do.</p>
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		<title>By: grandsonofcoach</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 00:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Come on guys. This isn&#039;t rocket science. The door is open a crack. League...you present a meaningful proposal that shows you&#039;re serious. Careful though, don&#039;t give away the farm on the first go. Leave a little room to give later. Ok, now players...don&#039;t all freak out because the league didn&#039;t bow to your every wish. Breathe. Breathe. Ok, now make a counter offer. See, it&#039;s not so hard. Back and forth. Back and forth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on guys. This isn&#8217;t rocket science. The door is open a crack. League&#8230;you present a meaningful proposal that shows you&#8217;re serious. Careful though, don&#8217;t give away the farm on the first go. Leave a little room to give later. Ok, now players&#8230;don&#8217;t all freak out because the league didn&#8217;t bow to your every wish. Breathe. Breathe. Ok, now make a counter offer. See, it&#8217;s not so hard. Back and forth. Back and forth.</p>
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