@fltharley – Ya right, and Democrats and liberals don’t have money. Talk about having extreme blinders on there buddy!

Hell they are the ones who insisted on keeping their business shutdown by filing an appeal. I can assure you that no deal will be taken seriously until game checks are missed by players. That is their leverage and that is what is going to happen.

I wish these players would try a different avenue, Get everyone to sign with the UFL including big names. After the ton of money the revitalized UFL would make in one year they would be able to compensate players at high levels while the NFL would probably be begging the players to return.

They should bite the bullet and play for cheaper this year in order to benefit from it long term.. Crazy but it just might work if they tried it.

Just so you know where I am coming from, for the most part, I side with the owners. They “own” the teams and should get a better deal than the last deal.

First off, if you and the rest of the players are basically, “feel(ing) pretty helpless. You’re just kind of sitting there waiting for judges to make their decision.” Then there will be no NFL Season in 2011. None…..Zero……Will Not Happen. The “Judges” will not render a FINAL verdict if this case continues to its ultimate conclusion for over a year. The lawyers, on both sides, are making an absolute mint on this case and will fight every single step of the way. Fighting it out in court will slow things down and whichever side wins one ruling will appeal to the next higher level of court and continue to fight, or will come up with some other legal argument to keep those “Billable Hours” flowing like the Mighty Mississippi River.

Second, if you and the rest of the players want an NFL Season in 2011, you must NEGOTIATE with the owners NOW. If you continue to wait, the owners will get stronger and stronger and will force this to the point of games being canceled in September, October, November….. At some point the 2011 season will be canceled if you do not negotiate very soon. The Courts, Judges and Lawyers do not care if their is a 2011 season. They have no reason whatsoever to get this thing to a final judgment before the end of August……NONE.

Third, the owners can hold out and will make it through to 2012 without one dime of NFL money coming in. They are mostly billionaires and will simply lay off all of their employees except GM’s and Head Coaches. How long can most players go without receiving game checks in 2011?

Finally, if your lawyers are telling you that you will win the “case” eventually, I believe they are correct. But you will not win until a final verdict from the United States Supreme Court in 2013 or so and by that time most players will be bankrupt.

Get back to negotiations now or the season will be lost. Tell your lawyers to set up talks now.

Imagine I go to a car lot, and there are no prices on the cars. I only know how much they sold for last year and I feel that was to much. I write down a number and give it to the salesman, he gets up goes to his boss, and comes out and says this is the worst offer I have ever received. I am going to sue you so you can’t ever buy a car from me again, unless you pay the price I want. I say what is that price, they say I wont tell you, you can ask the judge if I win. Then they blame me because they don’t want to sell cars anymore. people are all walking everywhere they go, and it’s my fault because I didn’t give a good enough offer ???? What the heck am I talking about here????

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Like coackroaches, they scurry when the lightbulb comes on

I guess they figure that if they are going to take less, they are going to give themselves a long break first. That’s cool, if it “goes the distance” I am not renewing my season tickets and if there are a lot of fans like me, the NFL should try to force a deal now.

If the players wait until the ruling against them instead of making a deal now they are going to have less leverage than ever before…idiots, tell deMo to eat one and make a deal!

Please. Do you really think Drew Brees gives a chit about being respected by people who are not Saints fans?

This case started in March 11th (during CBA talks) in one court and in June 3rd should see the end of this process on a second court.
I don’t know much about the U.S. justice system but that is one fast ruling, IMO.

But Drew, in real life, you can’t get everything you want. You elected this course of action, you go through the proper channels, you can’t speed things up or get the rulingt that fits better for you and your cause. Dee might have told you something different but hey, you picked the guy to fight in a non existant war you created.

I bet that last offer the owners made must be sounding sweet right now, isn’t it?

I thought for sure that you actually attended classes when you went to Purdue, however, it now seems as though you at least slept through your classes even if you didn’t just blow them off altogether. Litigation is what you wanted! You asked for it – you got it!

Helpless? It’s time to stand-up like a man – and instead of standing around crying “oh poor us” – do something about it! You opened-up your big mouth early-on, where is it now? You should be taking the lead on this by making sure that every effort is taken to reach as fair a deal as possible by spearheading efforts towards continuous NEGOTIATIONS! Quoting a movie from the 70′s – “I thought you always walked tall. Now it looks like you just learned how to crawl”. Be a man Drew – please prove me wrong and take the lead on this matter.

Next step? Work toward a new deal. Drop your pride and be the leader that you so often portray yourself as!

I heard the interview. He said something about the players have already won 5 times in a row in court.

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That’s not going to mean much if they lose the next 2.

The nice thing about the likelyhood of the owners winning at least the next one (lockout) is that PFT seems to have stopped the all out players support blitz that went on last week.

When PFT went all out with the articles pretty much accusing all pro-owner posters of being shills or having ulterior motives multiple times I almost left this site for good. However, other than the editorial commentary during the lockout I really enjoy this site so I am sticking with it for now.

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You are the one who put it in the judges hands so don’t act like you are helpless. Own up to what you’ve done. While you are at it you can pressure DeMaurice to restart negotiations. He can do that since he is one of your anti-trust lawyers or are you to busy trying to get sympathy that you forgot that it’s not in the judges hands if you don’t want it to be.

Drew you are a joke in this labor dispute. What’s interesting is that all the named plaintiffs have been staying as far away from this since the decertification. Someone needs to go shove a microphone in Manning’s face and ask him about the lockout.

Do you job instead of whining.

Or maybe you can’t. If there is no union, then there is no executive committee which is why DeMo is running wild.

Get your asses to the table and come with a deal that you’re willing to sign your name onto.”

Pretty much says it all. Simple as that.

I remember saying back when that Betty Crocker flunky issued her ridiculous ruling that the owners didn’t care, and her “opinion” meant nothing because the REAL judges in the 8th Circuit would be the voice that matters.
I remember how idiots like tommy15, duanethoms gloated back then, along with the ambulance chasing DEmo Smith. Heck, Deb even said “you go girl” after the ruling.

Well now the REAL judges( not some woman that only took up law cause she couldnt get a man) have strongly criticized her and basically reversed her “opinion”, and sided with common sense: THE OWNERS.

Did I mention what a beautfuul day it is?

Now that all the leverage has tilted to the owners just watch how fast the players begin to turn against each other and their “leader” the ambulance chaser . Their litigation strategy has backfired big time. What do they have left except try to attack the draft and other league staples through anti trust suits. But that will backfire on them too.

I said yesterday. Inmates, cut your losses and fire that outside attorney that does not have your best interests in mind. Get a group of solid upstanding players together(I know that will be very difficult) and NEGOTIATE. Maybe, just maybe the owners will feel sorry for your pathetic, greedy, ungrateful souls and not crush you too badly.
But in reality, I hope the owners drag this out and makes the players like Chester Pitts, Adrian Peterson, Derek Mason, Dez Bryant, Rashard Mendenhall and other clowns miss multiple paychecks and make them accept a contract with paycuts and increased suspension lengths.