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Andy Reid: The longer the lockout, the worse the quality of play

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Eagles coach Andy Reid has acknowledged something that everyone in the NFL has to be thinking but not many on the management side will want to admit: If the lockout lasts long enough to cut into training camps, the quality of play whenever the regular season starts will be sub-par.

“The further it goes in [to preparation], the worse the product,” Reid said on Comcast SportsNet, via Philly.com. “No matter how you cut this thing, you need time, in practice. . . . You’re bringing in guys who are working hard in the offseason on their own, but that’s not like working hard in training camp.”

The lockout has already lasted long enough to cancel some of the offseason preparation players would ordinarily do, and there’s no getting that back. And the lockout may be far from over.

So now that Reid has acknowledged that less preparation time means an inferior product, maybe the Eagles should offer fans a discount on tickets.

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56 Responses to “Andy Reid: The longer the lockout, the worse the quality of play”
  1. seahawkhuskyfan says: May 18, 2011 1:11 PM

    Did he think of that all by himself?

  2. willycents says: May 18, 2011 1:14 PM

    “So now that Reid has acknowledged that less preparation time means an inferior product, maybe the Eagles should offer fans a discount on tickets.”
    ——————————————————-

    “And perhaps the players should also offer the same percentage of their incomes back to the owners so the fans can get a double discount.”

    There, fixed that statement for you.

    Any reason the players should get paid for inferior preformancc and the owners should take a hit?

    Besides, there seems to be an argument that we pay to watch only the players. If they suck, we should be able to watch them free, right?

  3. dolphins4 says: May 18, 2011 1:15 PM

    I sure hope both sides get together soon and get a deal done quickly.

  4. b7p19 says: May 18, 2011 1:15 PM

    @seahawkhuskyfan –

    Did you think of THAT all by yourself?

  5. commoncents says: May 18, 2011 1:15 PM

    Tell us something we don’t already know.

  6. spungy says: May 18, 2011 1:16 PM

    In the land where everyone is going to play like the Bengals, the real Bengals will be king!

  7. iamtalkingsolistenandlearn says: May 18, 2011 1:17 PM

    Or in the case of the NFC, the farther West you go, the worse the quality of play

  8. pixelito says: May 18, 2011 1:19 PM

    Stupid Liberals wanting quality football.

    8th Circuit forever!

  9. berniemadoffsides says: May 18, 2011 1:21 PM

    I wonder if Fat Andy has lost any weight this offseason.

  10. chapnastier says: May 18, 2011 1:21 PM

    “The longer the lockout, the worse Andy Reid’s ability to manage a game gets.”

    Like that better.

  11. sjhaack says: May 18, 2011 1:21 PM

    Why should the players be penalized for being legally barred from team preparation for the season?

  12. vadog says: May 18, 2011 1:22 PM

    Captain Obvious to the rescue!!!!!

  13. p4hbiz says: May 18, 2011 1:22 PM

    The Raiders will be Ready~

  14. broncfanor says: May 18, 2011 1:23 PM

    Andy Reid, this years “acute grasp of the obvious” winner.

  15. 1buckeye76 says: May 18, 2011 1:23 PM

    @seahawkhuskyfan – John Madden told him.

  16. deadeye says: May 18, 2011 1:24 PM

    Andy Reid is a genius, so his statements are sometimes over my head. Let me see if I can follow his logic:

    -Practice time positively affects the quality of football.

    -The lockout is greatly reducing practice time.

    -Therefor, the relative quality of football will be poor.

    Now that the Walrus has spoken, we can all factor the “practice imroves quality theorum” into our position on the labor dispute.

    Thanks Andy!

  17. rockstart42 says: May 18, 2011 1:24 PM

    Well it is true…

    Manning even said it himself last year that they need these work outs because he wouldn’t get a chance to pass to some of the guys who came in and played while they were rittled with injuries last year. So there was very little adjustments when the pack up or practice squad came in.

  18. monsterscream says: May 18, 2011 1:25 PM

    THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!!

  19. harleyrider1973 says: May 18, 2011 1:28 PM

    Thats what Ive been saying since March 11th. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that out.

  20. parasonic says: May 18, 2011 1:29 PM

    I’m Andy Reid and I have diabetes (die-a-beat-us)

  21. esg6string says: May 18, 2011 1:30 PM

    Good for Reid to be the one to speak out and say what all thinking fans have been saying for awhile. Some fans think that as long as they don’t miss any games none of this really matters. I think the owners have fooled themselves into believing this too (maybe the players as well) and when its all over they still expect their coaches to go out there and field a team that’s capable of winning game and pleasing the fans.

    I’ve been saying for awhile they don’t have to miss games for me to lose interest in this season. I watch the NFL because its the best of the best facing each other. If they want to cheapen the product by cutting down on the prep time so the coaches can’t game plan properly and their schemes are inferior because they couldn’t teach them to the players my interest decreases dramatically.

    Defenses are going to be bland and offenses are quite frankly going to suck. Timing routes? Right. Screens? Nope. Precision passing attacks? Bye bye. Blitz pick up? What’s that?

    For all the smart asses out there you may notice that no one else has said this. Yeah its obvious but I don’t see any coverage specifically mentioning this fact. Maybe they’re afraid to anger the all mighty NFL by pointing out the flaw in everyone going back once all this is done like nothing’s happened. The coaches are getting F’d over in this whole thing. Some teams cutting their pay yet still expecting them to run the draft and prepare for FA and a season that my never happen. Plus they have to win when the games start because their jobs are still on the line.

  22. coachstram says: May 18, 2011 1:32 PM

    If thats the case, the Redskins better join the UFL, pronto.

  23. kyleortonsarm says: May 18, 2011 1:33 PM

    I suppose coming from the coach of an all time great Playoff Choke team, he would know how badly people can start playing.

  24. Land Snark says: May 18, 2011 1:34 PM

    Gotta love the bastions of higher thinking on this site.

    Let’s see how many more “Captain Obvious” statements we can get on here in addition to the ever original “Andy Reid is Fat” jokes (let’s save the quotes about stating the obvious for those MENSA candidates).

    Now all we need is some clever quip about him being “Father of the Year” again.

    Let’s go PFTers. I know you won’t disappoint.

  25. harleyrider1973 says: May 18, 2011 1:34 PM

    sjhaack says:
    May 18, 2011 1:21 PM
    Why should the players be penalized for being legally barred from team preparation for the season
    ___________________________________________________________________ becasue they (probably you are one of them) hired DE Smith and he is the biggest douche bag to show his face around the NFL. If you get someone in there to represent you that gives a crap about football this could have been worked out by now.

  26. tommyf15 says: May 18, 2011 1:34 PM

    Andy Reid: The longer the lockout, the worse the quality of play

    Andy should just ask the owners to lift the lockout. That would solve everything.

  27. citizenstrange says: May 18, 2011 1:35 PM

    The looser the waistband
    the deeper the quicksand
    Or so I have read
    /Spinal Tapped

  28. bluepike says: May 18, 2011 1:36 PM

    Not only will the quality of play suffer but I would think that there would be a lot more injuries also. Especially of the hamstring and groin variety. These type of injuries might sound a little harmless but they can keep a player sidelined for weeks at a time.

  29. m4hogie says: May 18, 2011 1:39 PM

    After the 2 sides finally settle, I hope the fans pull their own lock out and boycott the games. Let them play in empty stadiums. Then maybe the 2 sides will figure out who is more important.

  30. weaponx1996 says: May 18, 2011 1:40 PM

    This breaking news just in Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.

  31. TurdSandwich says: May 18, 2011 1:42 PM

    The worst part of PFT – the comments. If there was a simple IQ test required to reply, 99% of this hate-filled jazz would cease.
    Thumbs up to esg6string

  32. phillybirds says: May 18, 2011 2:00 PM

    Whoa relax everybody…

    It’s not as if Andy Reid told the world he’d be speaking at 1 pm on live television, came out and announced, “LESS TIME TO PLAY MEANS A WORSE PRODUCT!” and walked off stage. these guys at PFT just took a sentence or two from a whole interview and made a “story” out of it

    Nice job buying into a boring offseason. FAIL

  33. tophertencha says: May 18, 2011 2:06 PM

    Can’t blame Andy Reid for pointing out the obvious. He probably forgets sometimes that McNabb is not in the room

  34. brutus9448 says: May 18, 2011 2:09 PM

    Andy Reid:
    “if the lockout lasts until next march there will be no 2011 season”

  35. endzonezombie says: May 18, 2011 2:15 PM

    It is the lockout that is directly causing this problem – not the players. Many fans seem to overlook that the players are not on strike – they are locked out in an effort to force them to accept a CBA settlement on the owners terms instead of a negotiated settlement. All these pro-owner shills also overlook the fact that the premise for any CBA is a long term agreement without an opt-out clause. That means that no short-term bandaide can be proposed. It has to be a long term agreement that lasts for at least 8 years ( what I have heard proposed). If the owners’ strategy for the past two years had not been a forced lockout, the players union would not have decertified. Had the owners promised not to lockout while negotiating a new CBA – and continued to operate under the 2010 rules – the union would have had no motivation to decerify. Decertification was a legal strategy to defend against a lockout, right? As a result of the lockout, the quality of play in 2011 – if there is a season – will suffer. There might also be a significant increase in injuries. This will all impact the players directly, not the owners.

  36. sdiegosteel says: May 18, 2011 2:21 PM

    Yes, the play is going to be worse. Think the owners will give ticket holders price breaks on tickets? Can I have a lower bill from DirecTV for the season pass? Of course not.

  37. endzonezombie says: May 18, 2011 2:22 PM

    It has been noted previously that this labor impasse is primarily ‘ rich old white dudes’ versus a predominantly black workforce; Roger Goodell vs. De Smith. Anyone who doesn’t think this is a battle with racial overtones is kidding themselves.

  38. flipadelphia says: May 18, 2011 2:31 PM

    In other news….

    the sky is blue and grass is green.

  39. carlgerbschmidt says: May 18, 2011 2:36 PM

    If it goes on too long, it could be “vikes-like” across much of the league.

  40. psuravens19 says: May 18, 2011 2:42 PM

    Let’s not forget…. it’s all about the fans.

  41. thefiesty1 says: May 18, 2011 2:42 PM

    Naw, they half ass play most of the time anyway. It won’t be any different than usual for most teams.

  42. deathmonkey41 says: May 18, 2011 2:52 PM

    The longer the lockout, the fatter Andy Reid will get. They’ll have to wheel him back and forth on the sidelines in one of those mobile stretchers they carry injured players off in soon. The players don’t douse Reid in Gatorade after wins because really- who would want to see that wet?

  43. hendawg21 says: May 18, 2011 3:11 PM

    m4hogie says:
    May 18, 2011 1:39 PM
    After the 2 sides finally settle, I hope the fans pull their own lock out and boycott the games. Let them play in empty stadiums. Then maybe the 2 sides will figure out who is more important.

    Amen brotha Amen…at some point we the fans have to show we are a factor in the billion dollar industry and can’t just be ignored…I have not and will not buy any NFL/Team product as long as this goes on and then sometime after it’s over…

  44. 1buckeye76 says: May 18, 2011 3:11 PM

    TurdSandwich says:
    May 18, 2011 1:42 PM
    The worst part of PFT – the comments. If there was a simple IQ test required to reply, 99% of this hate-filled jazz would cease.
    Thumbs up to esg6string

    ….says the guy who named himself “turdsandwich” way to separate yourself from the 99%. as far as what esg6string said.. it’s not profound either… its common sense that no practice will effect the quality of play.

  45. schmitty2 says: May 18, 2011 3:15 PM

    This is Andy Reid so his comments could be retracted at any time

  46. JSpicoli says: May 18, 2011 3:38 PM

    NFL in retrograde for the next 10 years.

    Bad news for mouthbreathers everywhere.

  47. whatswiththehate says: May 18, 2011 3:43 PM

    ““The further it goes in [to preparation], the worse the product,” Reid said on Comcast SportsNet, via Philly.com. “No matter how you cut this thing, you need time, in practice. . . . You’re bringing in guys who are working hard in the offseason on their own, but that’s not like working hard in training camp.”’

    Well, I’m glad someone outside of the sports media have some common sense cause I posted a similiar concern yesterday.

    But we all know that in the land of make believe called the sports media, these spoilt writers, journalists, and analysts, would expect 100% quality work of work from the athletes on the field even if the lock-out ended two weeks before the start of the pre-season. And they would brainwash their sheeplings fans into believing that their fantasy should be reality.

    And as usual, everything always seems to come back to money and these athletes. Amazing how not one of these folks in the sports media are to bent out of shape over how much the owners are making. I guess cause they feel that by defending the owners some of that wealth can trickle down on them.

  48. laeaglefan says: May 18, 2011 3:45 PM

    Not only will the product on the field be inferior, the longer the lockout goes, but there will be more injuries, since the players will not be in top football shape. That will even add to the inferior product on the field.

  49. WingT says: May 18, 2011 3:51 PM

    Glad to see Andy Reid finally starting to focus on the “quality” of product.

  50. tinopuno says: May 18, 2011 3:57 PM

    chapnastier says: May 18, 2011 1:21 PM

    “The longer the lockout, the worse Andy Reid’s ability to manage a game gets.”

    —————————————————-

    And this from a Cowboys’ fan who, with the exception of Parcels, has watched a string of the most God awful head coaches in memory since Jerrah canned Jimmy!

    You do know Chappedlips, that you’re under no obligation to make a snide post or three in every single thread. Is there any chance you have an existence beyond PFT.

  51. phillyhoosier says: May 18, 2011 4:23 PM

    Regardless of what you think about Reid’s coaching ability, both sides would do well to heed his words here. Andy Reid is a “company guy”, who much to the consternation of the Philly media and talk radio likes to keep things close to vest, and isn’t really known to pop off. It’s pretty out of character for him to be this direct, so I think there’s some real concern here.

  52. stevem7 says: May 18, 2011 5:07 PM

    So what if the quality of play suffers. This is a bunch of grown adults who can’t agree how to split up over $9B annually. And watching it get to the point it currently is shows that there is HUMONGOUS GREED on both sides. The funniest part is the UNION is to blame for all of this for suckering the players with the Kool Aid. This is Scott Boras telling Johnny Damon how much he’s worth to the Yankees all over again. How did that turn out for Johnny?

  53. sneaky1632 says: May 18, 2011 5:35 PM

    Thank you captain obvious.

  54. kingbattle says: May 18, 2011 5:53 PM

    hey andy, go sign plaxico…. he shouldnt have to get in that good of shape now..

  55. jroman11 says: May 18, 2011 7:40 PM

    hendawg21 says: May 18, 2011 3:11 PM

    m4hogie says:
    May 18, 2011 1:39 PM
    After the 2 sides finally settle, I hope the fans pull their own lock out and boycott the games. Let them play in empty stadiums. Then maybe the 2 sides will figure out who is more important.

    Amen brotha Amen…at some point we the fans have to show we are a factor in the billion dollar industry and can’t just be ignored…I have not and will not buy any NFL/Team product as long as this goes on and then sometime after it’s over…

    ——————————————————–

    Keep dreamin’, boys. The NFL knows that as soon as they put the next game on tv, we’re on the edge of our seats, waiting to watch. The fans don’t factor into this at all, from their perspective.

  56. revooc48 says: May 18, 2011 11:26 PM

    Wow…….a guy states a fact and gets called captain obvious 50 times an the fat jokes start rolling in. I wish I felt the need to downgrade people to feel better about myself so I could chime in with a joke. Jerks

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