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Grossman weighs in on the wristband thing

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As if Redskins quarterback Donovan McNabb’s refusal to discuss whether he refused to wear a wristband didn’t serve as confirmation of The Sports Junkies’ report that he did, Redskins quarterback Rex Grossman made it even more clear during his Wednesday interview on ESPN 980, as transcribed by John Keim.

“Obviously Donovan didn’t like it.  He didn’t want to do it,” Grossman said.  “I’m not sure that was a major issue.  I’m not sure that was a big problem between him and the coaching staff.”

So does it mean McNabb refused to wear a wristband?  “I know he told me he doesn’t like to do that,” Grossman said.  “I don’t know their discussions or what they asked him to do.  If they asked him and he outright refused it, that’s an issue.  But I don’t know any of that first-hand.”

And Grossman wouldn’t know if Mike and Kyle Shanahan asked McNabb to wear a wristband because, as Grossman later explained, “They kept everything behind closed doors” when it came to the issues between McNabb and the father-son coach-coordinator combo.

Bottom line?  The report was right on the money, and it’s further proof that McNabb won’t be getting any more of it from the Redskins.

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  1. atlien698 says: May 18, 2011 11:09 PM

    I was at the Carrier Dome this weekend attending commencement ceremonies at Syracuse University. I saw a big picture of McNabb from his college days and thought to myself he seemed so much happier then! Smh

  2. shaggytoodle says: May 18, 2011 11:14 PM

    This whole wrist band thing reminds me of the ball player crying cuz he was hitting 9th

    the ball player gets paid over $71,000 a game.

    I am going out on a limb and saying not only would the majority of planet PFT bat 9th they would be willing to lean into a pitch to get on base for that kind of money.

    If your job consists of using a ball of sorts. Your all ready being paid to much.

  3. BlackAndGoldAllDay says: May 18, 2011 11:15 PM

    McNubb hasn’t been an upper tier QB for years, wristband or no wristband.

  4. phillybirds says: May 18, 2011 11:27 PM

    it sucks i always wanted mcnabb to retire as an eagle but something changed about him. he just didnt seem as competitive anymore. he wont wear a wristband with plays on it but he’ll wear oven mits on the sidelines to help him keep warm even though he’s from a cold area???

  5. canadianvikingfaniii says: May 18, 2011 11:33 PM

    I have to ask what is the big deal in using a wristband? Superbowl winning QBs wear them, MVP QBs wear them.. I don’t think anyone looks down upon you for wearing one.

  6. bison4me says: May 18, 2011 11:34 PM

    How was the report right on the money? Also could you put the whole quote from Grossman in context from the WaPo article? They were talking during training camp and McNabb told him in passing that he doesn’t like to wear wristbands to which Grossman also said he didn’t like them either.

    Going from that to The Junk’s report of McNabb out right refusing to wear one to Shanny’s face and saying he wouldn’t do it because it would make him look stupid are entirely two different things. It doesn’t mean McNabb said that or that Shanny’s asked him to wear one in the first place. I understand that this is blog and all, and journalism practices may not be followed to the T, but I still expect more than TMZ type stuff.

  7. shaggytoodle says: May 18, 2011 11:34 PM

    phillybirds says:
    May 18, 2011 11:27 PM
    it sucks i always wanted mcnabb to retire as an eagle but something changed about him. he just didnt seem as competitive anymore.
    _______________________________

    I think it was that time he left it all on the field in the Superbowl.

  8. cup1981 says: May 18, 2011 11:54 PM

    Whaaaa… I don’t wanna wear a wristband playbook, because people will think I am stupid. Hey, Donovan, look at some of the top-tier QBs’ wrists. What’s on the majority of them? That’s right, a PLAY BOOK!!! Oh my, they all must be stupid then…

    Just retire Donovan, you have officially ruined any respect that some of us used to have for you.

  9. imarques82 says: May 18, 2011 11:55 PM

    I’m not a fan of Rex Grossman snitching.

  10. danimalk82 says: May 19, 2011 12:06 AM

    You know who the real loser in all of these Shanahan-igans (get it shenanigans?) is?… All of the hard working and talented football players the Redskins accidentally drafted/acquired. It sucks they have to deal with the three stooges leading their team at the most important position in football. Most importantly it sucks for them that they got sent to the purgatory of football (IE the Redskins and/or Raiders).

  11. waitingguilty says: May 19, 2011 12:12 AM

    The new thing in the fan/media realm has been to blast the Shanahan combo for leaks etc….

    But I really think it’s apparent that they try to be “Behind closed doors” with their business.

    I don’t buy that team Shanahan was responsible for blowing McNabb up in the press.

    So many people have taken shots at McNabb at random junctures over the last decade that anyone near him now who does not blow him in the press comes off as another critic.

    #5 is a great candidate to retire early and be a pitchman IMO.

  12. omegaichiban says: May 19, 2011 12:22 AM

    So instead of making up all sorts of crap that no one believed…all Shanahan had to do was say “Donovan refuses to do everything possible to win, so I benched him”??

  13. bravin4evr says: May 19, 2011 12:34 AM

    Not in defense of Mcnabb….Rex Grossman isn’t any good, never was any good, never will be any good as a qb or person. Ask some of his former Chicago teammates!

  14. profootballwalk says: May 19, 2011 1:19 AM

    i’ve lost my capital letters. can someone help me find them?

  15. som1com says: May 19, 2011 1:46 AM

    Rex, technically speaking, he is still your team-mate. Way to roll him under the bus. Oh, yeah, you want the job so, you are sucking up to Shanason.

  16. hobartbaker says: May 19, 2011 2:50 AM

    Rex can sympathize with McNabb on this. He hates his own wristband, which has entries like “Keys?”, “Wallet?” “Both shoes tied?”, “Shirt NOT tucked inside shorts”, “Labels on the inside”, etc.

  17. hedleykow says: May 19, 2011 3:21 AM

    Isn’t it about time that someone reported on the actual conversation that took place between McNabb and the Shanahan leprechauns?

    Dumb A$$ Kyle was incapable of understanding the offense in real time, so to cover up his own shotcomings, he and daddy troll Shanahan numbered all the plays so that Kyle could just say any number between 1 and 200 and pretend that he knew what play it was.

    McNabb never said that a wristband would make him look stupid. What he did say was that he wasn’t going to cover for the retarded son of a head coach who doesn’t know the offense.

  18. halo81 says: May 19, 2011 4:25 AM

    So, in all fairness here … are Eagles fans still evil Devils for complaining about McNabb’s little idiosyncrasies while he was in Philadelphia?

    I know the media and opposing fans love to point them out for throwing snowballs at a drunken replacement Santa Claus (which happened 43 years ago) while they make fun of them for not having won a Championship since 1960 (only 7 years earlier which makes bringing up the snowball incident even more ridiculous). I know both love to bring up that McNabb was booed by a whopping 30 fans (population of Philadelphia 1.6 million) at the NFL Draft.

    I know everyone loves to find the minority and make it a majority with everything Philadelphia.

    So, now that McNabb is continuing to show his lack of leadership and on-field maturity which his old teammates like Ike Reese, Hugh Douglas, Brian Mitchell, Duce Staley, Corey Simon, etc, etc, etc have publicly talked about … does that mean that not only Philadelphia fans are bad, but so are Philadelphia players and now Redskins fans, Redskins players, Redskin coaches and the media reporting this?

    Maybe people need to take a look at Donovan McNabb for what he is … a talent quarterback who speaks very well, but is frankly a guy who could never lead a team and had to be handled with kid-gloves his entire career in Philadelphia.

    Need some statistical proof of that? Go check what happened when he was actually forced to throw the ball vertically in Washington.

    Don’t come back with the “weapons” arguments either. Nothing will ever be worse than James Thrash and Todd Stinkston. Yes Pastabelly, I wrote “Stinkston” just for you.

  19. themage78 says: May 19, 2011 4:44 AM

    Another dumb Eagirls fan. McNabb hasn’t been as competitive as he was earlier. Meanwhile Philly never gave him any #1 WR to throw to since TO, and when they do, they boot him for Vick after a year. The offense in philly got better and the defense got worse. When the Eagles go 6-10 you’ll all be crying for McNabb to lead you to the playoffs 7 out of 10 years. Show me another QB who has done that recently.
    Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. Oh yeah and those 2 also have at least 1-2 scrub teams in their division every year. NFC east games are never gimme games.

    McNabb went from the Eagles with little WR corps to the Redskins with NO WR corps. Who is he supposed to throw to? Himself? And instead of grabbing TO and having a reunion in DC, they let him flounder with a sub-par WR corps. No good FA signings, no trades, it was stupid. And we blame McNabb for taking the trade out of philly like a man, to a rebuilding team. And we also complain about how he doesn’t have it anymore when he has no offense around him to throw it to. Name me someone else besides Sanatana Moss on their WR corp who was good. Oh and btw, name me all the RB they had last year. It was only like about 10.

  20. MichaelEdits says: May 19, 2011 6:16 AM

    My wristband tells me how to have sex. “In, out, repeat.”

  21. eaglesfootballfan says: May 19, 2011 6:52 AM

    So McNabb did refuse to wear it and he does think it makes him look stupid. It is time for Mr. McNabb to retire. I was so glad the Eagles got rid of him when they did and everybody said it was a mistake and you should not trade the WR inside the divisoin and how the Eagles would regret it. Andy Reid and the Eagles orginazation prove to be right once again.

  22. usa98j30t4 says: May 19, 2011 7:05 AM

    So, Donovan refuses to wear a wristband because it makes him look stupid? Brady and Manning (to name two) wear one. Who’s the stupid one McNabb?

  23. lucky5934 says: May 19, 2011 7:48 AM

    It must bring up a touchy subject for Donovan. Perhaps causing him to flash back to being called “Dumb, Dumb Donovan” in Kindergarten.

  24. lucky5934 says: May 19, 2011 7:55 AM

    Eaglesfootballfan,

    Don’t you mean QB, not WR??

  25. moochzilla says: May 19, 2011 8:09 AM

    I guess that explains the fact that the Eagles led the league in wasted timeouts / delays of game for over a decade, and then all of a sudden it wasn’t an issue this year.

    Hmmmm. Wonder what changed?

  26. moochzilla says: May 19, 2011 8:18 AM

    Mage, it’ll never be McNabb’s fault will it?

    He’s the only QB in history that needed ALL of the following (according to his defenders):

    1) GREAT players at every skill position

    2) GREAT offensive lineman

    3) A team where every player is in their prime, so they don’t “show their youth”

    4) A strong running game that takes the pressure of him

    5) A coach who crafts the ideal gameplan for him

    6) A top defense

    7) A fan base that never gets on him and boos
    8) A sports media that never asks him to take responsibility

    Am I missing anything else from the laundry list of excuses you people make?

    You also make two factually incorrect statements:

    1) Donovan complained about his weapons until the minute he was traded, because they were too young and made mistakes that made him look bad. And McNabb could never stand to look bad. Did you miss the post Dallas comment about “our youth” being the reason they lost the game?

    2) The NFC East was A JOKE for most of McNabb’s run. Redskins were pitiful, Dallas was sad, and the Giants spent half of it rebuilding. Look it up – what was Donovan’s record vs winning teams? How about playoff teams? And anecdotally, how many games did you sit there and say “we shouldn’t have won that game but we did, because they are better”? I counted maybe 5-6 times in a decade, and some of those were AJ or Garcia at the helm.

    You are not a fan of the Eagles. Stop pretending you knew what happened here because you read an article in ESPN Magazine.

  27. Matt-NC says: May 19, 2011 8:19 AM

    Where is the shame in wearing a wristband? If your coach asks you to do it, do it. If you know the plays and don’t need the reference, wear the stupid thing and don’t look at it.

    McNabb has always been a “me” guy. I can remember when reporters would ask what he though when he was compared to Favre. His response was something like “Favre should be compared to me”.

    Diva.

  28. moochzilla says: May 19, 2011 8:25 AM

    9) Needed teammates to know their place and not muscle in on his Super Star status in town. He could never handle a talent like TO, because he realized that TO was a better WR than he was a QB. And the fans loved him, so jealousy took over. Pathetic for a “team leader”.

    10) Needed it constantly confirmed by others that he was “the leader” and it was “his team”. 20% of his quotes over a decade contain those terms, yet he never conducted himself as a leader. He abdicated his responsibility when it came to acting like one. He threw gasoline on the TO situation, costing the Birds a Super Bowl appearance and probably a Lombardi.

  29. moochzilla says: May 19, 2011 8:29 AM

    11) Could never be benched. Demanded a financial apology for being held accountable in a Ravens game where he totally quit and stunk.

    12) Wasn’t expected to look at film (never saw him look at the photos of defensive sets on sideline in over a decade), talk to teammates (he sat alone and sulked), or cheer on the team when he was benched. And I watched every game of his career.

  30. oranjellojones says: May 19, 2011 8:31 AM

    hedleykow says: May 19, 2011 3:21 AM

    “McNabb never said that a wristband would make him look stupid. What he did say was that he wasn’t going to cover for the retarded son of a head coach who doesn’t know the offense.”

    Riiiiigggggghhht. So let me get this straight….Kyle Shanahan who called the plays for and designed the Offense that led the league in Texas with Matt freak Shaub at the helm who had Rex Grossman outplaying McNabb and able to process a wider variety of plays because he played in that system for 2 years…didn’t know the offense. Seriously you mental midget put down the crack pipe push away from the desk and take 3 steps backward.

    It’s absolutely comical watching rubes like you trying to convince anyone that Kyle Shanahan sucks, the guy is one of the brighter offensive minds in the league and is known for such. But hey rant on, facts don’t seem to be much of an obstacle for you!

  31. blackqbwhiterb says: May 19, 2011 8:42 AM

    So you see why I say, “I’ll take our chances with John Beck.”?????
    Getting rid of the bad, even if you don’t yet have the good, is a step in the right direction……….We will get a QB, eventually. I just hope his name isn’t Vince Young or Matt Hasselbeck, or Kyle Orton, or Brett Favre…..

  32. yzguy431 says: May 19, 2011 8:47 AM

    still with the wristband? really?

  33. abr173rd says: May 19, 2011 9:13 AM

    I’m no Mcnabb lover, but its funny to me that Grossman who flat out sucks feel’s he needs to weigh in on an issue that is none of his business. Poor judgement and very poor character.

  34. LPad says: May 19, 2011 9:35 AM

    McNabb wore them in Philly, so I hardly doubt this is a big deal.

    Also, is PFT aware that the radio show’s report they keep reporting doesn’t even cover sports full-time and is known around DC for exaggerating?

  35. louderthanwords1 says: May 19, 2011 9:38 AM

    Shaggytoodle- Of course the majority of PFT planet would bat 9th for that amount but unlike us Posada has been one of the more talented baseball players over the last decade and has busted his ass for probably his whole life to be an all star player although he is on the decline now. Furthermore there was a lot more behind the scenes stuff you left out in your post to prove your point.

    Oh and also it’s “already” not “all ready” and “too” not “to” hence why I’m sure your not being paid 71,000 to do any job.

    I’d like to point out also this is not me coming to Posada or the Yankees defense because quite honestly I can’t stand them but you can’t use just part of a story to prove your point.

  36. LPad says: May 19, 2011 9:39 AM

    meant to say cover the Redskins full-time. that show takes other reporters stories and runs with them, interview people that have no idea what happened like Grossman, instead of doing any reporting themselves.

  37. terminalsd says: May 19, 2011 9:54 AM

    Sexy Rexy is a RAT? HA HA
    Way to go, SORRY QB, now SNITCH!!!

    Long Live Mac 5!!

  38. harleybidness says: May 19, 2011 10:56 AM

    The fact that this topic is even discussed in today’s world is beyond me. Even I have better things to do than waste in on a wrist band. But, here I am, being unreasonable like the rest of you guys. Donovan McNabb is a top tier quarterback. It’s very difficult to do what he does when the line doesn’t do it’s job, the receivers don’t do their jobs, and the coaches don’t do their jobs. McNabb spends most of his time on his back, running around in the back field, or watching his passes get dropped. None of these causes are due to him or his performance. The Shanahan’s are both control freaks (ask Elway), albeit very successful control freaks. However, they both need to learn the art of making coal dust seem like diamonds. your neighbor, harley :-)

  39. moochzilla says: May 19, 2011 12:00 PM

    “Donovan McNabb is a top tier quarterback.”

    Based on what? “Class”?

    “It’s very difficult to do what he does when the line doesn’t do it’s job, the receivers don’t do their jobs, and the coaches don’t do their jobs.”

    All classic excuses I heard every day he was here, for over a decade. No matter what the talent level was. Funny, it was good enough to be favored in several NFC title games that were choked away to inferior competition.

    “McNabb spends most of his time on his back, running around in the back field, or watching his passes get dropped.”

    More excuses. Hard to catch balls thrown high / low. Surely you won’t contend he’s been accurate at any stage of his career. Would you?

    “None of these causes are due to him or his performance.”

    So when they win, it’s all McNabb. When they lose, it’s everyone else. Wow, must be nice. Heads he wins, tales you lose.

  40. CKL says: May 19, 2011 12:35 PM

    moochzilla says: May 19, 2011 8:18 AM

    Mage, it’ll never be McNabb’s fault will it?

    He’s the only QB in history that needed ALL of the following (according to his defenders):

    1) GREAT players at every skill position

    2) GREAT offensive lineman

    3) A team where every player is in their prime, so they don’t “show their youth”

    4) A strong running game that takes the pressure of him

    5) A coach who crafts the ideal gameplan for him

    6) A top defense

    7) A fan base that never gets on him and boos 8) A sports media that never asks him to take responsibility

    Am I missing anything else from the laundry list of excuses you people make?
    _____________________________
    This sounds a whole lot like the excuses a segment of Pats fans used to make for Bledsoe.
    McNabb and Bledsoe were in many ways similar though DB didn’t whine to the press that much and he wasn’t the king of passive aggressiveness…he was almost as selfish and uncoachable but more quietly.

  41. moochzilla says: May 19, 2011 1:11 PM

    McNabb is Drew Bledsoe / Boomer Esiason (eerily similar #’s). That’s great company, but not HOF worthy.

  42. harleybidness says: May 19, 2011 1:32 PM

    Moochzilla thinks that it’s only the quarterback that wins the games. I say that he can’t do his job when others don’t do theirs ….. which means that teams win when all of the players do their parts. Moochzilla discounts team play by saying that McNabb wins when everyone plays well. I say that everyone wins when everyone plays well. And, everyone loses when everyone plays poorly. It appears to me that there is some bias on his part. I bet that he thinks that Barry Sanders is one of the best running backs that played the game (he would be right!), but how does Moochzilla factor in the other statistic that Barry achieved ….. most lost yards of any running back. It’s a team sport!!!
    your neighbor, harley :-)

  43. shaggytoodle says: May 19, 2011 1:57 PM

    louderthanwords1 says:
    May 19, 2011 9:38 AM
    Shaggytoodle- Of course the majority of PFT planet would bat 9th for that amount but unlike us Posada has been one of the more talented baseball players over the last decade and has busted his ass for probably his whole life to be an all star player although he is on the decline now. Furthermore there was a lot more behind the scenes stuff you left out in your post to prove your point.

    Oh and also it’s “already” not “all ready” and “too” not “to” hence why I’m sure your not being paid 71,000 to do any job.
    ___________________________

    You are correct on me leaving things out, and I am sure Posada and the mangers are the only ones that know the WHOLE story, but any time I hear a ball player asking to be let out of the line up, because he has to bat 9th (which is the main story I heard from articles I have read) You need to quit complaining and do what your manager asks.

    I am TRUELY sorry that my post typo upset you. Next time Ill only have 10 beers before I post and hopefully I can proof read a little better for the grammer police.

  44. moochzilla says: May 19, 2011 3:04 PM

    Ten years. When he won, it was a case of him carrying a bunch of sad sacks. When he lost, it was because of the sad sacks.

    It was a team game when they lost, a triumph of his own individual talent when they won.

    If it is a team game and the QB position, or any one for that matter, doesn’t matter…why not just go with Grossman? Or Beck? Or you?

    Most of your post is the classic McNabb straw man argument. You just move the goalposts as it suits you.

    Boring. I was having these excuses back in the last decade.

  45. moochzilla says: May 19, 2011 3:05 PM

    Compare for me Brady’s teams and McNabb’s, if you will. It’ll become clearer what I’m talking about.

  46. statchmoe says: May 19, 2011 7:57 PM

    Come on guys… calm down. The amount of success McNabb had over a 10 year run cannot be disputed. During his time with the Eagles, he was a talented, yet inconsistent player. It was a great run and only a fool would try to make it less (or more) than what it was. It was an awesome time to be an Eagles fan. Having a competitive team for a decade, that always seemed on the cusp of a championship, was tremendous. I would rather have had a decade of near misses than 1 championship and nine years of suckage! And I bet most other NFL cities would have cherished the production and excitement that McNabb and the Eagles generated for 10 years.

  47. moochzilla says: May 19, 2011 9:16 PM

    “I would rather have had a decade of near misses than 1 championship and nine years of suckage! ”

    I thought that once, and then the Phillies won. Anyone at that parade now knows better.

    Plus, it seems like teams in Pittsburgh and New England get to be consistently good AND win Super Bowls.

    Can’t we aspire to that? Or are we stuck in the pre-World Series mentality of low expectations?

  48. bigfootnells says: May 19, 2011 9:51 PM

    To compare McNabb with Barry Sanders in any way what so ever is a joke. Not only did the Nfc East suck during most of McNabb’s time The Whole Nfc did as well. McNabb Had one of the best offensive lines (The most important thing for a QB to have to be succesful) and one of the best weapons in the entire NFL in B-West. Which was way more than Randall Cunningham ever had. HOF Qbs make mediocre WRs/RBs good. McNabb made mediocre WRs/Rbs terrible. The problem is that McNabb lovers way way overvalue him as a HOF QB and buy into his Whiny nothing is my fault persona.While McNabb haters unjustly call him a terrible Qb. Instead of what he was a very good QB.Who never became a HOF QB because he choked when it mattered most.

  49. bigfootnells says: May 19, 2011 9:59 PM

    I bought up Randall. Because if he got the backing Reid and the Eagles management as whole gave McNabb. Plus any kind of coaching that is needed to become a successful NFL QB. Plus one of the best lines and a HOF calibre talent like B-West. He would have surely been in the HOF. Look at Randall’s Numbers with the Vikings. Plus while he was the Eagles Qb the Nfc East owned the Nfl. with the Redskins Giants and Cowgirls winning many Super Bowls.

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