I thought that once, and then the Phillies won. Anyone at that parade now knows better.

Plus, it seems like teams in Pittsburgh and New England get to be consistently good AND win Super Bowls.

Can’t we aspire to that? Or are we stuck in the pre-World Series mentality of low expectations?

It was a team game when they lost, a triumph of his own individual talent when they won.

If it is a team game and the QB position, or any one for that matter, doesn’t matter…why not just go with Grossman? Or Beck? Or you?

Most of your post is the classic McNabb straw man argument. You just move the goalposts as it suits you.

Boring. I was having these excuses back in the last decade.

Oh and also it’s “already” not “all ready” and “too” not “to” hence why I’m sure your not being paid 71,000 to do any job.
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You are correct on me leaving things out, and I am sure Posada and the mangers are the only ones that know the WHOLE story, but any time I hear a ball player asking to be let out of the line up, because he has to bat 9th (which is the main story I heard from articles I have read) You need to quit complaining and do what your manager asks.

I am TRUELY sorry that my post typo upset you. Next time Ill only have 10 beers before I post and hopefully I can proof read a little better for the grammer police.

Mage, it’ll never be McNabb’s fault will it?

He’s the only QB in history that needed ALL of the following (according to his defenders):

1) GREAT players at every skill position

2) GREAT offensive lineman

3) A team where every player is in their prime, so they don’t “show their youth”

4) A strong running game that takes the pressure of him

5) A coach who crafts the ideal gameplan for him

6) A top defense

7) A fan base that never gets on him and boos
8) A sports media that never asks him to take responsibility

Am I missing anything else from the laundry list of excuses you people make?
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This sounds a whole lot like the excuses a segment of Pats fans used to make for Bledsoe.
McNabb and Bledsoe were in many ways similar though DB didn’t whine to the press that much and he wasn’t the king of passive aggressiveness…he was almost as selfish and uncoachable but more quietly.

Based on what? “Class”?

“It’s very difficult to do what he does when the line doesn’t do it’s job, the receivers don’t do their jobs, and the coaches don’t do their jobs.”

All classic excuses I heard every day he was here, for over a decade. No matter what the talent level was. Funny, it was good enough to be favored in several NFC title games that were choked away to inferior competition.

“McNabb spends most of his time on his back, running around in the back field, or watching his passes get dropped.”

More excuses. Hard to catch balls thrown high / low. Surely you won’t contend he’s been accurate at any stage of his career. Would you?

“None of these causes are due to him or his performance.”

So when they win, it’s all McNabb. When they lose, it’s everyone else. Wow, must be nice. Heads he wins, tales you lose.

Long Live Mac 5!!

Oh and also it’s “already” not “all ready” and “too” not “to” hence why I’m sure your not being paid 71,000 to do any job.

I’d like to point out also this is not me coming to Posada or the Yankees defense because quite honestly I can’t stand them but you can’t use just part of a story to prove your point.

Also, is PFT aware that the radio show’s report they keep reporting doesn’t even cover sports full-time and is known around DC for exaggerating?

“McNabb never said that a wristband would make him look stupid. What he did say was that he wasn’t going to cover for the retarded son of a head coach who doesn’t know the offense.”

Riiiiigggggghhht. So let me get this straight….Kyle Shanahan who called the plays for and designed the Offense that led the league in Texas with Matt freak Shaub at the helm who had Rex Grossman outplaying McNabb and able to process a wider variety of plays because he played in that system for 2 years…didn’t know the offense. Seriously you mental midget put down the crack pipe push away from the desk and take 3 steps backward.

It’s absolutely comical watching rubes like you trying to convince anyone that Kyle Shanahan sucks, the guy is one of the brighter offensive minds in the league and is known for such. But hey rant on, facts don’t seem to be much of an obstacle for you!

12) Wasn’t expected to look at film (never saw him look at the photos of defensive sets on sideline in over a decade), talk to teammates (he sat alone and sulked), or cheer on the team when he was benched. And I watched every game of his career.

10) Needed it constantly confirmed by others that he was “the leader” and it was “his team”. 20% of his quotes over a decade contain those terms, yet he never conducted himself as a leader. He abdicated his responsibility when it came to acting like one. He threw gasoline on the TO situation, costing the Birds a Super Bowl appearance and probably a Lombardi.

McNabb has always been a “me” guy. I can remember when reporters would ask what he though when he was compared to Favre. His response was something like “Favre should be compared to me”.

Diva.

He’s the only QB in history that needed ALL of the following (according to his defenders):

1) GREAT players at every skill position

2) GREAT offensive lineman

3) A team where every player is in their prime, so they don’t “show their youth”

4) A strong running game that takes the pressure of him

5) A coach who crafts the ideal gameplan for him

6) A top defense

7) A fan base that never gets on him and boos

8) A sports media that never asks him to take responsibility

Am I missing anything else from the laundry list of excuses you people make?

You also make two factually incorrect statements:

1) Donovan complained about his weapons until the minute he was traded, because they were too young and made mistakes that made him look bad. And McNabb could never stand to look bad. Did you miss the post Dallas comment about “our youth” being the reason they lost the game?

2) The NFC East was A JOKE for most of McNabb’s run. Redskins were pitiful, Dallas was sad, and the Giants spent half of it rebuilding. Look it up – what was Donovan’s record vs winning teams? How about playoff teams? And anecdotally, how many games did you sit there and say “we shouldn’t have won that game but we did, because they are better”? I counted maybe 5-6 times in a decade, and some of those were AJ or Garcia at the helm.

You are not a fan of the Eagles. Stop pretending you knew what happened here because you read an article in ESPN Magazine.

Hmmmm. Wonder what changed?

Don’t you mean QB, not WR??