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Jay Cutler jokes bring Democrats, Republicans together in Wisconsin

Bears quarterback Cutler reacts as Packers defensive end Jenkins walks past during the first quarter of the NFL NFC Championship football game in Chicago Reuters

Four months after he sat out the second half of the Bears’ NFC Championship Game loss to the Packers, Jay Cutler still hasn’t lived it down.

At least, he hasn’t lived it down among Packers fans who love needling the Bears about it. And that includes bipartisan attacks from Wisconsin politicians.

It started with Congressman Paul Ryan delivering a speech in Chicago and using the opportunity to needle the Bears fans in the audience.

“I want to thank you all for inviting me to speak. It was especially gracious of you to host me, even though I’m a Packers fan and I assume most of you are Bears fans,” Ryan said. “But that doesn’t mean we can’t work together. As chairman of the House Budget Committee, I stand ready to do whatever it takes to help you re-sign Jay Cutler. I’m here to talk about the economy today — about the need to get four quarters of strong, consistent performance. That wasn’t another Jay Cutler joke, I swear. It could be, but it’s not.”

When Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee spokesman Matt Canter heard about Ryan’s joke, he decided the Democrats needed to get in on the fun.

“Republicans would be better off with Jay Cutler as their candidate in Wisconsin,” Canter said, adding some shots at one of the actual Republican candidates for the U.S. Senate.

So there you have it: Something both sides can agree on in Wisconsin: Ripping Jay Cutler is a great way to score some cheap political points.

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  1. thephantomstranger says: May 18, 2011 10:04 AM

    Paul Ryan is the best thing to come out of Wisconsin since pepperjack cheese.

  2. nolarules says: May 18, 2011 10:05 AM

    One was quite funny. The other, not so much.

  3. krow101 says: May 18, 2011 10:05 AM

    Yes, Cutler is a puzzy. But those comments are mean and uncalled for.

  4. rc33 says: May 18, 2011 10:06 AM

    Wisconsin Democrats have spent more time in Illinois than Jay Cutler has.
    Seriously, why are those forever-disgraced cowards commenting on anything?

  5. citizenstrange says: May 18, 2011 10:12 AM

    Am I going crazy or did Carlos Mencia change his name to Paul Ryan and move to Wisconsin?

  6. MichaelEdits says: May 18, 2011 10:19 AM

    Paul Ryan’s line was clever. The other guy demonstrated why the Democrats are sometimes called the “me too” party.

  7. suckittrebek76 says: May 18, 2011 10:23 AM

    rc33 says:
    May 18, 2011 10:06 AM

    Wisconsin Democrats have spent more time in Illinois than Jay Cutler has.
    Seriously, why are those forever-disgraced cowards commenting on anything?

    Cowards?! I consider them very brave to risk their political careers for the hard working middle class. They chose not to be bullied by a governer who is getting paid by billionaires like the Koch brothers. RECALL WALKER THE REAL COWARD!!!!

  8. gregjennings85 says: May 18, 2011 10:26 AM

    Wisconsin: Where millions of blue collar workers fight for, and vote to aid, the richest 1%.

    Stop by sometime.

  9. ruvelligwebuike says: May 18, 2011 10:29 AM

    Well, Wisconsin Democrats are certainly the experts at disappearing when the going gets tough.

  10. raiderinpa says: May 18, 2011 10:31 AM

    Good to see others rip on cry-baby Cutler other than us Raiders fans… lol

  11. arzcardinals says: May 18, 2011 10:40 AM

    We’d be happy to take Cutler from Chicago.

    signed: Arizona

  12. wavy77 says: May 18, 2011 10:46 AM

    Inbreds sure know how to have fun

  13. ruvelligwebuike says: May 18, 2011 10:51 AM

    “Cowards?! I consider them very brave to risk their political careers for the hard working middle class. They chose not to be bullied by a governer who is getting paid by billionaires like the Koch brothers. RECALL WALKER THE REAL COWARD!!!!”
    ——————

    Yeah, real cowardly to step up against a teacher’s union when you know there is going to be a ton of backlash, but do it anyway and take your lumps like a man! By the way, how much money does the teacher’s union spend on getting Democratic candidates elected? $88M during the mid-terms. $88 M. Not in classrooms. In getting people elected.

    Nice try.

  14. jaycutlerslagunabeach says: May 18, 2011 10:51 AM

    I honestly want to hear what brodies thoughts are on the whole sitch, nah sayin

  15. sakatak says: May 18, 2011 10:56 AM

    For all you Scott Walker haters, how did you feel about Ted Thompson 3 years ago?

  16. oranjellojones says: May 18, 2011 11:00 AM

    Brutal! Good Lord cut the guy a break!

  17. melonnhead says: May 18, 2011 11:32 AM

    Cowards?! I consider them very brave to risk their political careers for the hard working middle class. They chose not to be bullied by a governer who is getting paid by billionaires like the Koch brothers.

    —————————————————-

    Instead of fighting back, they ran away. That’s the definition of “coward”.

    Brave bold Wisconsin Democrats bravely ran away! Ran away, ran away! When danger reared it’s ugly head, they bravely turned their tails and fled! Yes, they with great valor turned about and gallantly they chickened out. Bravely taking to their feet, they beat a very brave retreat! Bravest of the brave, Wisconsin Democrats!

  18. autobrand says: May 18, 2011 11:45 AM

    Yeah, real cowardly to step up against a teacher’s union when you know there is going to be a ton of backlash, but do it anyway and take your lumps like a man! By the way, how much money does the teacher’s union spend on getting Democratic candidates elected? $88M during the mid-terms. $88 M. Not in classrooms. In getting people elected.
    —————————————————

    By the way, how much are the GOP’s corporate backers spending to get Republican candidates elected? That would be money spent on getting people elected instead of creating jobs, like they are supposed to be doing with all those tax breaks and subsidies they get from the government.

    At least the government doesn’t subsidize unions.

  19. tformation says: May 18, 2011 11:50 AM

    Got a feeling the Packers would much prefer Kyle Orton or Rex Grossman behind center for the Bears than Cutler. But I’m a biased Cutler sympathizer.

    I’m sure Jay’s quietly bemused to be unwittingly doing his part for political peace in Wisconsin.

  20. JSpicoli says: May 18, 2011 12:04 PM

    Paul Ryan’s line was clever. The other guy demonstrated why the Democrats are sometimes called the “me too” party.

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  21. suckittrebek76 says: May 18, 2011 12:20 PM

    Just because the 14 senators from Wisconsin physically ran away does not make them cowards. They did not run away from the fight. They was the only way to delay the vote Gov. Walker put on the fast track. He did not want to negotiate or compromise. He forced the Dems hand.

    Wisconsinites are proud of their educational system. Stripping teachers collective bargaining rights and cutting almost a billion dollars out of the states education budget would be doing our youth a incredible disservice.

    I don’t want Wisconsin’s educational system to rival Alabama’s or Mississippi’s.

  22. alpine75 says: May 18, 2011 12:25 PM

    By the way, how much are the GOP’s corporate backers spending to get Republican candidates elected? That would be money spent on getting people elected instead of creating jobs, like they are supposed to be doing with all those tax breaks and subsidies they get from the government.

    At least the government doesn’t subsidize unions.
    ————————————————–

    Last time I checked Wisconsin Democrats were receiving donations from corporations too. Or in the case of the former Governor Doyle, corporations AND casinos.

  23. henrypuppyhead says: May 18, 2011 12:27 PM

    sakatak says: May 18, 2011 10:56 AM

    For all you Scott Walker haters, how did you feel about Ted Thompson 3 years ago?

    —————-

    Loved him. That said, this is easily wins the failed argument of the day award.

    Good to see the knuckledraggers on here displaying their ignorance of economics and politics.

    You are the ammo for people to rip on Wisconsin. Don’t hate me because your stupid.

  24. henrypuppyhead says: May 18, 2011 12:31 PM

    suckittrebek76 says: May 18, 2011 12:20 PM

    I don’t want Wisconsin’s educational system to rival Alabama’s or Mississippi’s.

    —————–

    Don’t burst their bubble. The war on education started Republicans. Now the people they have dumbed down are taking over as planned.

    Curse those power broker teachers!!

  25. ruvelligwebuike says: May 18, 2011 12:31 PM

    “By the way, how much are the GOP’s corporate backers spending to get Republican candidates elected? That would be money spent on getting people elected instead of creating jobs, like they are supposed to be doing with all those tax breaks and subsidies they get from the government.”
    ——————-

    Two things:

    #1. You’re right. They both spend money to get their candidates elected. Only the union backers are stupid enough to point fingers like they aren’t just as guilty. Truth is, most of them actually don’t even know what their union does.
    #2. The difference is, the corporations, it’s money they actually privately made, instead of withheld from public workers paychecks by law. Actually, that’s incorrect. The union doesn’t even collect it anymore, the state does it for them, which is just so wrong I can’t even comprehend it.

    “At least the government doesn’t subsidize unions.”
    ——————-

    Do some research.

  26. backuppunter says: May 18, 2011 12:31 PM

    Instead of fighting back, they ran away. That’s the definition of “coward”.

    Brave bold Wisconsin Democrats bravely ran away! Ran away, ran away! When danger reared it’s ugly head, they bravely turned their tails and fled! Yes, they with great valor turned about and gallantly they chickened out. Bravely taking to their feet, they beat a very brave retreat! Bravest of the brave, Wisconsin Democrats

    ————–

    running away huh, actually that’s how we beat the british in the rev war. when it was strategically the smartest thing to do we ran away. George Washington would be proud!

  27. gophersnot says: May 18, 2011 12:35 PM

    A good number of these Democratic “heroes” are up for recall in July. We’ll see then what the public thinks about their running away then.

    How many of these “protestors” actually live in Wisconsin? I live here and I know the majority of the protestors were paid and brought in from around the country. Yeah, they really care about Wisconsin teachers.

  28. thephantomstranger says: May 18, 2011 12:37 PM

    autobrand says:
    May 18, 2011 11:45 AM

    At least the government doesn’t subsidize unions.
    ___________________

    Public sector unions donate money to candidates who negotiate with the public sector unions after they’re elected. They have no incentive to be tough on the union so the union gets what they want.

    In the private sector, take the bailout of GM as an example. That wasn’t a bailout of a corporation, it was a bailout of the auto workers union.

  29. backuppunter says: May 18, 2011 12:46 PM

    anyone ever hear of the multiple brain studies they have done with people discussing or listening to politics. the part of our brains that thinks logically shuts off and our emotional parts flair up. that’s why we all turn into such self rightous ignorant a-holes when it comes to politics (myself and my own party included).

    also how bout the one where they showed demies and reps an identical statement. half of the demies were told it was a repu making the statement and half were told it was a demi. they did the same thing with the repus. it turned out for the majority of the people as long they thought it was from someone of there own party they agreed with the statement and if it was someone from a different party they disagreed with the statement.

    in other words self rightous partisan anger is not the same as knowledge and truth.

  30. lebronsinsecurity says: May 18, 2011 12:53 PM

    Why is it that the Jesus freak republicans are always the ones who can’t hold a basic economic conversation?? Maybe that’s the reason they are so against education. I guess it makes simple intellectual conversation easier for them when everyone is on their level.. Too bad the rest of us will never be on their level, we went to college!!

  31. bwisnasky says: May 18, 2011 12:55 PM

    gophersnot says:
    May 18, 2011 12:35 PM
    A good number of these Democratic “heroes” are up for recall in July. We’ll see then what the public thinks about their running away then.

    ——————————————–

    Actually, 4 Repubs are also up for recall, and its looking more and more like a lot of the Dem recall petitions were bought with fraud such as a bar providing free shots to anyone that would sign one of those said petitions, so it may not be as many Dems up for recall (8) as originally thought. Once again the Repubs defrauding the working class in this country… just makes me wonder what Koolaid they have gotten people to drink.

  32. ruvelligwebuike says: May 18, 2011 12:56 PM

    “I don’t want Wisconsin’s educational system to rival Alabama’s or Mississippi’s.”
    —————

    You think it might have to do with demographics and culture?

  33. sakatak says: May 18, 2011 1:07 PM

    henrypuppyhead says: May 18, 2011 12:27 PM

    sakatak says: May 18, 2011 10:56 AM

    For all you Scott Walker haters, how did you feel about Ted Thompson 3 years ago?

    —————-

    Loved him. That said, this is easily wins the failed argument of the day award.

    Good to see the knuckledraggers on here displaying their ignorance of economics and politics.

    You are the ammo for people to rip on Wisconsin. Don’t hate me because your stupid.
    __________________________

    I don’t hate you or Ted Thompson or Scott Walker, that is my point. I just do not understand why there is so much hate out there. There were plenty who hated TT 3 years ago, now how did that work out for them. He has a job to do just like Walker, I have never agreed with everything they have done but I am willing to give them a chance. Hate is for the knuckledgraggers, which I am not one.

  34. tjrubleysaudible says: May 18, 2011 1:09 PM

    Jeez no actual Cutler jokes in this thread, just the usual polical b.s.

  35. henrypuppyhead says: May 18, 2011 1:13 PM

    ruvelligwebuike says: May 18, 2011 12:56 PM

    You think it might have to do with demographics and culture?

    ——————–
    Holy softball. Leaving out the bevy of statements I could use to beat you about the shoulders and head, do you wish to emulate a culture of poor education?

    I’m pretty sure the answer is nothing more than how dedicated said culture is to education. That means funding all those wealthy power broker teachers.

  36. ruvelligwebuike says: May 18, 2011 1:16 PM

    “Why is it that the Jesus freak republicans are always the ones who can’t hold a basic economic conversation?? Maybe that’s the reason they are so against education. I guess it makes simple intellectual conversation easier for them when everyone is on their level.. Too bad the rest of us will never be on their level, we went to college!!”
    —————

    Yeah, those pesky billion dollar corporations sure hire a lot of non college-educated people…

    Congrats on your college degree. I’ll see you at the big party with the other 14,000,000 people who graduated from college in the last 10 years. You sure are elite!

  37. henrypuppyhead says: May 18, 2011 1:20 PM

    sakatak says: May 18, 2011 1:07 PM

    I don’t hate you or Ted Thompson or Scott Walker, that is my point. I just do not understand why there is so much hate out there. There were plenty who hated TT 3 years ago, now how did that work out for them. He has a job to do just like Walker, I have never agreed with everything they have done but I am willing to give them a chance. Hate is for the knuckledgraggers, which I am not one.

    —————-

    First off, could you throw some more apples to oranges arguments out there? Just curious because we all know Thompson running a football organization is exactly like the battle for the middle class. Same thing.

    Hate has nothing to do with it. It’s called knowing your history, which I do. Go read a few books on the America of the late 19th and early 2oth century.

    I guess we just have another “Crisis of Confidence”.

  38. henrypuppyhead says: May 18, 2011 1:27 PM

    backuppunter says: May 18, 2011 12:46 PM

    in other words self rightous partisan anger is not the same as knowledge and truth.

    ———–

    Ain’t that the truth.

    Again, that’s no excuse for ignorance of what’s truly happening and also reason for why there are so many independents and I’m not talking about extremist gathering at the fringes.

  39. henrypuppyhead says: May 18, 2011 1:33 PM

    thephantomstranger says: May 18, 2011 12:37 PM

    autobrand says:
    May 18, 2011 11:45 AM

    At least the government doesn’t subsidize unions.
    ___________________

    Public sector unions donate money to candidates who negotiate with the public sector unions after they’re elected. They have no incentive to be tough on the union so the union gets what they want.

    In the private sector, take the bailout of GM as an example. That wasn’t a bailout of a corporation, it was a bailout of the auto workers union.

    ———————–

    This is biggest bucket of dumb yet. You mean all those pesky pensions that auto workers paid into for years and years and GM says that can’t pay because of their endless crappy business decisions and choosing not to compete with Japan and Korea?

    It’s the epitome of to big to fail and you blame the unions? The unions that gave concessions for over two decades?

    Unions have issues that need to be resolved but they are nothing more than a response to hyper capitalism and it’s cannibalizing of America.

  40. burntorangehorn says: May 18, 2011 1:34 PM

    I’m anti-union as well as anti-Paul Ryan/Scott Walker. I’m also anti-lame joke, and Canter’s was pretty lame.

  41. ruvelligwebuike says: May 18, 2011 1:34 PM

    “Holy softball. Leaving out the bevy of statements I could use to beat you about the shoulders and head, do you wish to emulate a culture of poor education?

    I’m pretty sure the answer is nothing more than how dedicated said culture is to education. That means funding all those wealthy power broker teachers”
    —————-

    So empowering the teachers union will change a region’s attitude towards education? If inner city Milwaukee teachers were paid the same as Waukesha Catholic Memorial teachers, the results would be the same?

    Please, take the kid gloves off and don’t spare me. Come at me with that bevy of statements…

  42. henrypuppyhead says: May 18, 2011 1:39 PM

    gophersnot says: May 18, 2011 12:35 PM

    How many of these “protestors” actually live in Wisconsin? I live here and I know the majority of the protestors were paid and brought in from around the country. Yeah, they really care about Wisconsin teachers.

    ———————

    About as many as the teatards bussed in. I bet all those cops and firemen were bussed in too.

    Funny how it always comes back to teachers and the loathing for education.

  43. cleonslamminsalmon says: May 18, 2011 2:01 PM

    Hey Cutler, save the comedy for the field. And by comedy, I mean whining, hanging your head, finger pointing, int’s, fake injuries in the NFC championship, etc….

  44. thephantomstranger says: May 18, 2011 2:11 PM

    henrypuppyhead says:
    May 18, 2011 1:33 PM
    thephantomstranger says: May 18, 2011 12:37 PM

    autobrand says:
    May 18, 2011 11:45 AM

    At least the government doesn’t subsidize unions.
    ___________________

    Public sector unions donate money to candidates who negotiate with the public sector unions after they’re elected. They have no incentive to be tough on the union so the union gets what they want.

    In the private sector, take the bailout of GM as an example. That wasn’t a bailout of a corporation, it was a bailout of the auto workers union.

    ———————–

    This is biggest bucket of dumb yet. You mean all those pesky pensions that auto workers paid into for years and years and GM says that can’t pay because of their endless crappy business decisions and choosing not to compete with Japan and Korea?

    It’s the epitome of to big to fail and you blame the unions? The unions that gave concessions for over two decades?

    Unions have issues that need to be resolved but they are nothing more than a response to hyper capitalism and it’s cannibalizing of America.
    _______________

    Thank you for your input, Karl Marx. We haven’t had capitalism in this country for a long time. The government picks winners and losers with their subsidies and regulations. If there were a true free market, everyone would be better off.

    GM made crappy business decisions and one of them was they allowed the unions to overrun them. They would not have received a bailout if it weren’t for the union. Democrats take care of their union gravy train.

  45. usmutts says: May 18, 2011 2:37 PM

    I see there are lots of people who truly hate unions. Do you also hate weekends? Without unionization you wouldn’t have one. Do you hate being paid good wages? Without unions you wouldn’t have any. Do you hate retirement? Without unions you wouldn’t have one.

    All working class Americans who’ve been led down the road to favor union-busting remind me of what someone said recently about working class people who support Republican/tea-bagger politicians: they’re like turkeys hoping for Thanksgiving.

  46. henrypuppyhead says: May 18, 2011 2:39 PM

    ruvelligwebuike says: May 18, 2011 1:34 PM

    So empowering the teachers union will change a region’s attitude towards education? If inner city Milwaukee teachers were paid the same as Waukesha Catholic Memorial teachers, the results would be the same?

    Please, take the kid gloves off and don’t spare me. Come at me with that bevy of statements…

    ———————–

    Yes, proper funding is key. The needs and demands of education have nothing to do with unions, it has to do with proper funding and commitment to education on all socio-economic levels. People learn in different ways. There definitely is a bigger hurdle teaching in the inner city than there is in a plush suburb because you’re also fighting against poverty and all the wonderful things that come with it.

    Teachers fighting for a whopping 35 grand a year is part of the issue but hardly the biggest issue. We don’t want people taking on some of the biggest challenges in our society to actually be compensated. There’s a reason why there are programs to forgive student loans for those who teach inner city for 5 years.

    And for the teachers in the nice areas, they are still educating your brats that are mostly raised by television and xbox.

    You want to look at the overall picture? It’s a breakdown in personal responsibility. We expect that of teachers but not of major power brokers like GM, Wall Street and the Fed?

    You keep looking at the leaves on the trees.

  47. henrypuppyhead says: May 18, 2011 2:47 PM

    thephantomstranger says: May 18, 2011 2:11 PM

    Thank you for your input, Karl Marx. We haven’t had capitalism in this country for a long time. The government picks winners and losers with their subsidies and regulations. If there were a true free market, everyone would be better off.

    GM made crappy business decisions and one of them was they allowed the unions to overrun them. They would not have received a bailout if it weren’t for the union. Democrats take care of their union gravy train.

    ———————-

    Instant fail. The problem with clowns like you is you think capitalism is pure when you have socialism all around you which you take for granted. Simple fact, neither can exist without each other in the modern world.

    David Hume and Adam Smith have my back. Funny how hyper capitalists (not free market advocates, not the same thing) don’t even understand “Wealth of Nations”. Capitalism is a excellent form of economics but it needs to be balanced by a sense of socialism. The government is the peoples “corporation”. It is meant to protect the citzenry from the inherent brutality of the Free Market.

    I openly advocate for the Free Market. I also openly advocate for the government to protect the middle class and supply education and health care for all citzens, the rest is up to you.

    You know the Puritans had more in common with Karl Marx than me. Of course you don’t know that because you can’t think yourself out of a wet paper bag.

    Socialism: key word “social”. Oldest form of government on the planet because it suggests that a healthy society benefits all, not just the top 5%. Crazy, I know. You keep hanging onto that stupid notion that Socialism and Communism are the same thing.

  48. henrypuppyhead says: May 18, 2011 2:54 PM

    usmutts says: May 18, 2011 2:37 PM

    All working class Americans who’ve been led down the road to favor union-busting remind me of what someone said recently about working class people who support Republican/tea-bagger politicians: they’re like turkeys hoping for Thanksgiving.

    ——————

    Hilarious. Totally stealing this one.

  49. comeonnowguys says: May 18, 2011 3:14 PM

    cleonslamminsalmon says:

    “Hey Cutler, save the comedy for the field. And by comedy, I mean whining, hanging your head, finger pointing, int’s, fake injuries in the NFC championship, etc….”

    Say what you will about his attitude, given so many warranted opportunities about which to whine and finger point, he really hasn’t done either since he arrived in Chicago two years ago.

  50. benh999 says: May 18, 2011 3:21 PM

    @melonnhead,
    Failing to support their teach union overlords would have been far worse for their political careers than the bad publicity of turning tail and running to IL. It was a hardly brave act — just selfish and cowardly.

  51. ruvelligwebuike says: May 18, 2011 3:41 PM

    “Yes, proper funding is key. The needs and demands of education have nothing to do with unions, it has to do with proper funding and commitment to education on all socio-economic levels. People learn in different ways. There definitely is a bigger hurdle teaching in the inner city than there is in a plush suburb because you’re also fighting against poverty and all the wonderful things that come with it.”
    ————–

    puppyhead, you just proved my point! Your argument was that limiting the teacher’s unions is using the same model as Mississippi and Alabama. My point is that MS and AL do poorly due to their economic and demographic climate, not because they aren’t unionized.

    Then you tell me there is a big hurdle in overcoming poverty. So tell me, once and for all, is Wisconsin a better educational climate than Mississippi because of the unions, or because MS is poor as hell.

  52. stavreafavre says: May 18, 2011 4:04 PM

    Any problem in America today is due to unions or the liberal media. Like the collapse of Enron and all the workers who lost their jobs. Yep, unions and the media. Or the collapse of Lehman Brothers which started all the financial dominos falling. Yep, unions and the media. Oh, and probably activist judges too, who think it isn’t 1776 anymore with no vote for women and slavery still allowed. Oh, and we also need to cut government regulations. Get government out of the way and let the market do its work. That worked like a charm with Wall Street 3-4 years ago.
    The most prosperous times in this country were the 1950’s, ’60’s, and ’70’s – that’s in terms of prosperous for ALL, not just the top i%. Unions were a lot stronger then. Tax rates for the very rich ranged from 90% to 60% instead of the current 35% which now is “too much.” Yet somehow America as a whole prospered. Now Paul Ryan, who has received more contributions from the banking and financial sector than any other Representative, wants to “balance the budget” without raising taxes on his rich masters or cutting one penny from our New Roman Empire war machine. Yep, that sounds good! A real champion of the common man!

  53. thephantomstranger says: May 18, 2011 5:26 PM

    henrypuppyhead says:
    May 18, 2011 2:47 PM
    Instant fail. The problem with clowns like you is you think capitalism is pure when you have socialism all around you which you take for granted. Simple fact, neither can exist without each other in the modern world.

    David Hume and Adam Smith have my back. Funny how hyper capitalists (not free market advocates, not the same thing) don’t even understand “Wealth of Nations”. Capitalism is a excellent form of economics but it needs to be balanced by a sense of socialism. The government is the peoples “corporation”. It is meant to protect the citzenry from the inherent brutality of the Free Market.

    I openly advocate for the Free Market. I also openly advocate for the government to protect the middle class and supply education and health care for all citzens, the rest is up to you.

    You know the Puritans had more in common with Karl Marx than me. Of course you don’t know that because you can’t think yourself out of a wet paper bag.

    Socialism: key word “social”. Oldest form of government on the planet because it suggests that a healthy society benefits all, not just the top 5%. Crazy, I know. You keep hanging onto that stupid notion that Socialism and Communism are the same thing.
    __________________

    Please provide one example of a country in which socialism has not failed. I don’t know which “Puritans” you’re referring to, but I do know that the Pilgrims tried socialism when they first came to America. It failed miserably because people weren’t motivated to work hard to take care of someone else’s family. They found that when you were allowed to keep what you produce, you worked harder and the whole society benefited. You see, there’s a thing called “human nature,” which demands that people have an incentive to act. Why should I work when my neighbor will give me everything I need? You may have noticed that the USA became the most prosperous country in the world in a very short time. This is because of capitalism, not socialism. The more the government interferes with the economy, the weaker this nation gets.

    I’m not against government, I’m for it. But I don’t think the role of government is to provide health care for everyone. There can be safety net programs for the poor, but why do we need the government to “protect the middle class”? What does that even mean? Maybe the middle class could protect themselves if government would get out of the way.

    I know socialism isn’t the same as communism, but it’s only a matter of degree. Once you become a socialist nation, it’s only a short hop to communism. I prefer to go in the direction that led us to prosperity, not the direction you advocate that has always led to destruction.

  54. SpartaChris says: May 18, 2011 7:04 PM

    autobrand says:
    May 18, 2011 11:45 AM

    At least the government doesn’t subsidize unions.
    ==================================
    PLEASE tell me this is a joke?

  55. nowathand twitter.com/Chris_M_Bach says: May 18, 2011 8:07 PM

    I love how all the people come out to question Jay Cutler’s strength and toughness.

    It’s a lot of fun – as long as you aren’t a Cardinals, Steelers or Jaguars fan. Because – by your logic – Larry Fitzgerald, Hines Ward and Maurice Jones-Drew are all even more gutless than Cutler because they had the same injury and actually left their games by their own will whereas Cutler went back into the game and got benched.

    Be careful what you wish for, Paul. Cutler was saddled with one of the worst offensive lines in football and more interceptions were thrown intended for Johnny Knox than for any other receiver in the NFL. As John Madden pointed out, Cutler is far tougher than most NFL quarterbacks and it would be stupid to count him out at this point in his career.

  56. sakatak says: May 18, 2011 9:30 PM

    henrypuppyhead says:
    May 18, 2011 1:20 PM
    sakatak says: May 18, 2011 1:07 PM

    I don’t hate you or Ted Thompson or Scott Walker, that is my point. I just do not understand why there is so much hate out there. There were plenty who hated TT 3 years ago, now how did that work out for them. He has a job to do just like Walker, I have never agreed with everything they have done but I am willing to give them a chance. Hate is for the knuckledgraggers, which I am not one.

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    First off, could you throw some more apples to oranges arguments out there? Just curious because we all know Thompson running a football organization is exactly like the battle for the middle class. Same thing.

    Hate has nothing to do with it. It’s called knowing your history, which I do. Go read a few books on the America of the late 19th and early 2oth century.

    I guess we just have another “Crisis of Confidence”.

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    First of all I posted a question, you answered with name calling. Now you claim I am comparing apples to oranges, I agree with you 100%. What exactly does the late 19th century have to do with the price of rice? This is 2011 and I live for the future, we live in a great country and you don’t seem very happy. Could it be better? Obviously yes. Since you didn’t understand my original question let me explain it to you.
    Three years ago the state was divided over the Brett Favre situation, it has turned out alright for most Packer fans. (Apple)
    Once again the state is divided, but now it is the politics of Walker that have divided the state, instead of the politics of football. (Orange)
    All I am saying is get on with your life and quit arguing, who knows what could happen in the next 3 years. (Optimist)
    Packer nation is no longer divided, my hope is Wisconsin will be able to get its act together in the next 3 years. Name calling and arguing won’t solve anything.

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