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De Smith faces “we want football!” chant, too

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Three weeks ago tonight, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell strolled to the podium at Radio City Music Hall, where he was welcomed by a cascade of boos and the eventual chant of “We want football!”

NFLPA* executive director DeMaurice Smith, while giving a commencement address at the University of Maryland, was greeted not with boos but with the same chant.

I want football, too,” Smith said in response, per the Associated Press.

“Do we care enough about who we are and who we want to be?” Smith eventually said during the speech regarding the labor dispute in which he is embroiled.  “The decision to pursue and if necessary fight for what is fair was a decision those players made two years ago.  And I’ve got to tell you, it’s vastly different from something as simple as ‘shut up and play.’  That’s not the decision that we made.  We made the decision to fight for who we we’re going to be and who we are.”

Later in the speech, Smith had this to say:  “To anybody who thinks for one minute that passion is something that is cheap and futile, have two words for them: ‘You suck.’  And for anybody who would ever think that it is the wrong thing to do to care so much that you’re willing to risk everything because it is right, reserve those two words for them.”

Apparently, Smith was trying to time the “you suck” line to the portion of Gary Glitter’s “Rock and Roll (Part 2)” in which Maryland students call out those two words, prefaced by “hey.”  Per the AP account, it was an “awkward moment,” due in part to the fact that the volume of the device on which Smith was playing the song was too low.

Apart from the clumsy homage to the student body, the notion of “risking everything because it is right” could trouble some of Smith’s current constituents.  Primarily, they probably want to know whether Smith is risking his own “everything,” or whether he’s risking their “everything,” too.

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  1. bf53 says: May 19, 2011 3:39 PM

    good. let him hear it.

  2. footballhistorian says: May 19, 2011 3:39 PM

    DeMaurice sucks…

  3. tombradyswig says: May 19, 2011 3:39 PM

    De De Doo Doo Smith…
    Here’s some words for you as well…

    Y O U S U C K ! ! ! ! !

    You do NOT care about what you’re fighting for, you just care to FIGHT! That’s all.

    FIRE DOO DOO AND HIRE TROY VINCENT!!!

  4. 8drinkminimum says: May 19, 2011 3:41 PM

    The Pied Piper leading the lambs to eventual slaughter.

  5. deadeye says: May 19, 2011 3:41 PM

    The longer this drags out, the more money he makes.

  6. cromags says: May 19, 2011 3:41 PM

    I’m dizzy from all the spin.

    Is a commencement address really an appropriate venue to spew more partisan rhetoric?

  7. ashburninsider says: May 19, 2011 3:43 PM

    De Smith “The man who killed the NFL”

  8. killxswitch says: May 19, 2011 3:45 PM

    The crowd should’ve shouted “You suck”, any moment would’ve been the right one.

  9. chc4 says: May 19, 2011 3:46 PM

    So the Maryland grads had to listen to a union leader pitching his case? That’s one sorry commencement experience.

  10. eagiants says: May 19, 2011 3:47 PM

    In this man’s humble opinion…Smith has proven to be a media diva who cares less about getting a deal done and more about running the legal gauntlet that will allow him to be in the news for most of (if not all) 2011.

    The more he speaks, the less credible he comes off. I just hope and pray and raindance (or whatever it takes) that the players are taking notice of the clown this guy has become. Time to find a new leader who will dedicate all of his time and effort to negotiating a new deal that works for the players and enusres that they don’t miss any game checks.

    Wake up *NFLPA and get rid of this clown!

  11. saudishot says: May 19, 2011 3:49 PM

    I’m not necessarily in favor of the owners, but it’s hard to get behind any organization that’s led by this jackwagon.

  12. randy33872 says: May 19, 2011 3:49 PM

    Yea yea, thats all good. Now SHUT UP AND PLAY !!!!!!!!!!

  13. bluepike says: May 19, 2011 3:51 PM

    De Smith does everything except negotiate. Also, Drew Brees was on the Jim Rome radio show today – being as unbending and almost as hateful as De Smith he said -”We (the players) have the facts on our side, and we have the law on our side”. He also never said anything about negotiating and conveniently forgot to mention that the players have refused to offer any counter-proposals on at least two occasions. The way that these two guys are turning my stomach , I almost don’t care if the owners “go nuclear” on them. These two guys are pitiful. Just pitiful.

  14. siggy00 says: May 19, 2011 3:52 PM

    This guy is a joke. Clearly in over his head. The players need to realize he’s nothing more than a shyster in a tie looking for a big payday.

  15. rpiotr01 says: May 19, 2011 3:54 PM

    This is typical trial lawyer melodrama. Lofty words, lots of drama. Please.

    Like I said before, they hired the wrong kind of lawyers. These guys are about black and white, win or lose, live or die situations. Smith has no concept of deal making. He’s never even come close to putting into words what a deal from the players side would look like. I have my doubts that even he has any idea. How can you do business with a person like this?

  16. BlackAndGoldAllDay says: May 19, 2011 3:55 PM

    No more De Smith news, please. Unless it involves an offer or counter-offer to/from the NFL.

  17. Playmaker's Dealer says: May 19, 2011 3:56 PM

    wow this guys is a full blown clown. have any player come out and said they think he’s doing a great job?

  18. manderson367 says: May 19, 2011 3:58 PM

    “We made the decision to fight for who we we’re going to be and who we are” = Unemployed.

  19. corchamp says: May 19, 2011 3:59 PM

    Shut up and play.

  20. dpants5 says: May 19, 2011 4:00 PM

    Whenever these numbnuts’ pull it together I say they all owe us a free ticket to any game we want. Cause in the end, there are only two groups out of three who get what they want (roughly). What do we get? Jacked up ticket and merch prices more than likely.

  21. wavy77 says: May 19, 2011 4:00 PM

    Can whoever puts LSD in De Smiths water please stop doing that immediately!

    Man, he’s painful to listen to. I can sympathize with some of the issues players have brought top the table, but man, they chose horribly when finding the guy they should hand the microphone to.

  22. jsin001 says: May 19, 2011 4:01 PM

    Screw the Players…and Screw the owners. The NFL is DEAD.

  23. canuck54143 says: May 19, 2011 4:05 PM

    AS Donald Trump says DeSmith YOUR FIRED!!!!

  24. realdeal12 says: May 19, 2011 4:05 PM

    “To anybody who thinks for one minute that passion is something that is cheap and futile, have two words for them: ‘You suck.’ ”

    What he really said “To anybody who thinks for one minute that I give a crap about anything but my political career, I have two words for you: Your Right.”

    This sniveling turd needs to be silenced or there will be no Football in 2011!

  25. jackdiesel says: May 19, 2011 4:06 PM

    bf53 says: May 19, 2011 3:39 PM
    good. let him hear it.
    132
    0

    ^^ I think that’s some kind of record, over 100 and not a single thumb down.

  26. crubenst says: May 19, 2011 4:07 PM

    Its obvious D. Smith needs to go. He is blatantly letting his emotions get in the way of making a deal. He is clear in stating that he is willing to do down in flames and let the league go down in flames in order to be “right.”

  27. 2009kenny says: May 19, 2011 4:09 PM

    I think that Drew Brees is abusing the goodwil of the people of NO. I wonder why P Manning and or T Brady aren’t up front with this thing as well. Surely Drew realizes that this thing will end in a new CBA via negotiation. Why not start that process now. As far as De Smith, I don’t trust him

  28. tommyf15 says: May 19, 2011 4:14 PM

    Oh NO! A CHANT! :)

    “Do we care enough about who we are and who we want to be?” Smith eventually said during the speech regarding the labor dispute in which he is embroiled. “The decision to pursue and if necessary fight for what is fair was a decision those players made two years ago. And I’ve got to tell you, it’s vastly different from something as simple as ‘shut up and play.’ That’s not the decision that we made. We made the decision to fight for who we we’re going to be and who we are.”

    Later in the speech, Smith had this to say: “To anybody who thinks for one minute that passion is something that is cheap and futile, have two words for them: ‘You suck.’ And for anybody who would ever think that it is the wrong thing to do to care so much that you’re willing to risk everything because it is right, reserve those two words for them.”

    I have the feeling the owners have found a deadly adversary in Mr. DeMaurice Smith. He reminds me of Marvin Miller- someone that is not driven by greed, but by principle.

  29. vadog says: May 19, 2011 4:24 PM

    Ok, it’s time for new personalities to take control. Neither Goodell or De Smith are capable of getting the job done. Why would the University of Maryland have Smith as a commencement speaker anyway? What has he done that deserves the honor?

  30. doncornelious says: May 19, 2011 4:25 PM

    De Smith a commencement speaker? Really???

  31. berniemadoffsides says: May 19, 2011 4:28 PM

    De’s getting fired. Guaranteed.

  32. nfl25 says: May 19, 2011 4:31 PM

    tommyf15

    no offence but did u give urself a thumbs up? nobody else here likes dsmith but u

  33. gooberjelly says: May 19, 2011 4:32 PM

    DeMaurice Smith is an attorney. He makes his money by dragging out these processes. Former NFLPA, you need to find a leader that has a vested interest in resolving your situation, not a vested interest in arguing.

  34. olskool711 says: May 19, 2011 4:33 PM

    “So the Maryland grads had to listen to a union leader pitching his case? That’s one sorry commencement experience.”

    I was wondering how far down I would have to go before this point was made.

    This, in my opinion is the real news of this story.

    I don’t have anything against the Univ. of Maryland, but…

    but…

    WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?

    Is that really where you are at as a University?

    …please

  35. vincespowersweep says: May 19, 2011 4:33 PM

    “Primarily, they probably want to know whether Smith is risking his own “everything,” or whether he’s risking their “everything,” too.”

    Easy to play high stakes poker with other people’s money, isn’t it De?

  36. johnnyoclock says: May 19, 2011 4:34 PM

    Is there any further reason why anyone in media will still be a shill for this guy? Do you finally now see who he REALLY is??

    But no, given media types rarely engage in self critique they’ll keep doing what they do.

    Media has one huge problem with all this: the supposition of “neither side is stupid enough to damage the 2011 season over this, nether side wants that”.

    Wrong.

    There is one side which doesn’t care about damage nor consequence. Guess who that is, media? Media is constantly engaging in false supposition that the players’ side, Smith, actually cares. They don’t. They care about dominating victory, not the season. They care about sticking it to the owners and calling it justice. They care about doing everything they can to drag this into the season thinking the weak owners, weak because they’re typical American evil fatcats drunk off their own money, will cave when the stadiums aren’t filled. This is who Smith really is.

    This should have been obvious to you before, so it definitely should now.

    Can media people FINALLY put your metaphorical personal political stake in this aside in your reporting, and open your eyes???

  37. angrynflfan says: May 19, 2011 4:35 PM

    Why is this man doing anything with his time other than trying to work out a solution to the labor issue?

    What in the world is he doing speaking anywhere other than to the players, leauge, or courts…or preparing to speak to them.

    anything else he is doing is time and energy not focused where it should be.

  38. snoop24 says: May 19, 2011 4:37 PM

    I wonder if Dee graduated himself?

  39. tommyf15 says: May 19, 2011 4:41 PM

    nfl25 says:
    tommyf15
    no offence but did u give urself a thumbs up? nobody else here likes dsmith but u

    No offense taken, and I don’t use the thumbs up / thumbs down feature.

    DeMaurice Smith’s function is not to win a popularity contest. Historically, the more effective a sports labor leader is, the less he is liked.

  40. cytofed says: May 19, 2011 4:44 PM

    its time like this that we appreciate the late great Upshaw.

  41. skins359 says: May 19, 2011 4:51 PM

    They should have chanted “leverage, leverage, leverage” followed by “Hail to the king.” That way De Smith would have melted and the NFLPA would need to find a new leader capable of actually negotiating.

  42. bearskoolaid1985 says: May 19, 2011 4:59 PM

    Why are all the comments bashing De Smith. (Which I agree with each and everyone of them)

    De Smith can’t help himself for Kessler( the NFL hater lawyer) is using De Smith as a puppet and De Smith is too stupid to know it.

  43. jpmelon says: May 19, 2011 5:01 PM

    Why was this chode giving a commencement speech? What graduating class could possibly benefit from listening to the guy who doesn’t know what a lawsuit is?

    I can just see it….as the crowd was chanting at him, he responds, “Stop suing me. Go sue yourselves.”

  44. tommyf15 says: May 19, 2011 5:10 PM

    Look, a federal judge ordered further nedotiations and a federal mediator oversaw them.

    Don’t lie to yourself about the NFLPA* not negotiating. If the

    If the owners’ rep (Jeffrey Pash) was such a great negotiator, why couldn’t he get a deal done?

  45. tommyf15 says: May 19, 2011 5:10 PM

    Look, a federal judge ordered further negotiations and a federal mediator oversaw them.

    Don’t lie to yourself about the NFLPA* not negotiating.

    If the owners’ rep (Jeffrey Pash) was such a great negotiator, why couldn’t he get a deal done?

  46. geo1113 says: May 19, 2011 5:15 PM

    If the owners’ rep (Jeffrey Pash) was such a great negotiator, why couldn’t he get a deal done?
    ___________________

    Because it takes two to tango.

  47. philly1313 says: May 19, 2011 5:18 PM

    To those brilliant people that think Smith is paid hourly – just because he is an attorney does not mean he bills by the hour. He is the Executive Director of what used to be the NFLPA so he makes a salary. He is not outside counsel and therefore he doesn’t make more money the longer this drags out. As long as he doesn’t get fired, he will be the Executive Director of the NFLPA after the work stoppage and make the same amount of money as he does during the lockout. It’s the outside law firms (of both sides)that rake in money hourly the longer this drags on.

    Also to those people that compare Smith unfavorably to Gene Upshaw need to do a little bit of research. Part of his unofficial bio on wikipedia reads:
    “Upshaw was an active member of the bargaining committee for the National Football League Players’ Association (NFLPA) throughout the late 1970s and early 1980s. He led the NFLPA in its unsuccessful strike in 1987 and through years of anti-trust litigation against the league, including a brief period in which the NFLPA became a professional association rather than a union, that ended with the union’s acceptance of a salary cap in return for free agency and an enhanced share of league revenues for the union’s members.”

    Hmmm…antitrust lawsuit, professional association…sound familiar?

  48. nfl25 says: May 19, 2011 5:26 PM

    tommyf15

    i know the onwers are not angels and may deserve some blame. but the players wont negotiate until they have zero leverage.

    the thing is the players have not made one counter offer. its like trying to sell a car to a guy who just says, no i dont like the price, and he leaves.

  49. nflfan101 says: May 19, 2011 5:28 PM

    I really do not know what to make of D. Smith’s latest comments other that it is clear that he will not negotiate.

    What does he mean when he says “We made the decision to fight for who we we’re going to be and who we are”? It doesn’t make sense other that he just wants to fight in court.

    With regard to this mess, does anyone know what he wants? Does Smith even know what he wants? Are his wants even remotely related to the wants of the players?

    FACT: D. Smith walked out of CBA negotiations, decertified the union, had certain players file suit, and then did not attend at least one court ordered mediation session.

    If fans, players, and PFT employees want football, they need to tell D. Smith to get his butt into negotiations.

  50. btg1911 says: May 19, 2011 5:30 PM

    Yikes, maybe they removed it due to my spelling errors. My bad!

  51. thefiesty1 says: May 19, 2011 5:33 PM

    What is the matter with the people at Maryland? Are they nuts? Nobody in their right mind would have this jerk on campus, much less as a commencement speaker. What college did he speak? Does UM have a degree program in STUPID?

  52. beretta96d says: May 19, 2011 5:36 PM

    I was on strike for 363 days, to fight for a fair deal, and show a greedy foreign corporation that our natural resources and money will not leave our country.

    In a sense I can sympathise with the players regardless of the numbers…..it’s still corporate greed wanting more on the backs of the workers.

    BUT this idiot lawyer DOES NOT care about the game, the fans or the players themselves. He cares about himself and the money he’s making. Fire him, get a real representative and negotiate. The fact they will not negotiate in good faith shows his total lack of respect for all those involved.

    FIRE HIM!

  53. danderoo says: May 19, 2011 5:49 PM

    D Smith talks tough for a guy who never strapped it on. No wonder. As a hired hand, its not his balls on the line. I would talk a big game also, if I didn’t have my own set of jewels at risk.

    If I am a player, I am starting to get nervous about this DIVA.

  54. jackfnburton says: May 19, 2011 5:54 PM

    Really classy move, De. You know, for a commencement speech. Good place for it. Nice call.

  55. tommyf15 says: May 19, 2011 5:54 PM

    nfl25 says:
    the thing is the players have not made one counter offer

    How do you know that?

    But you know what? Just as the owners had the right to opt out of the CBA, the players have the right to say “we don’t want to be a union any more- let’s have a free market system”.

  56. BernardPollardIsAnAss says: May 19, 2011 5:55 PM

    @cromags

    I know, right. Could this guy be more of a self serving douche? Most people would chose some undeniably important historical conflict or moment to make a point during a commencement speech, and this douche gets on his soap box to talk about this lame ass lockout. Talk about a lack of perspective. This douche chooses something from his own lame list of current events. What a selfish prick. I’d be pissed if I was a current UM grad and the administration would hear about it.

  57. tommyf15 says: May 19, 2011 5:58 PM

    nflfan101 says:
    I really do not know what to make of D. Smith’s latest comments other that it is clear that he will not negotiate.

    Chew on this quote:

    “There’s nothing good at the bargaining table,” said NFLPA lawyer Jim Quinn at the April 6 Minnesota district court hearing. “We did it for 2 ½ years. It didn’t work out.”

  58. CKL says: May 19, 2011 6:06 PM

    Anyone else a little disturbed by the fact he told his 6 year old daughter (who he loves to drag into the conversation almost every time he speaks like it’s going to make us feel all his vitriol is softened by being a dad) that the way the two words “you suck” work at a negotiating table is “all about love”?
    W
    T
    F
    !?!?!?!??!
    He’s starting to sound more and more like some dude you encounter at the bus stop who camps out there and shrieks strange non sequiturs all day.

  59. nfl25 says: May 19, 2011 6:08 PM

    tommyf15 says:
    May 19, 2011 5:54 PM
    nfl25 says:
    the thing is the players have not made one counter offer

    How do you know that?

    But you know what? Just as the owners had the right to opt out of the CBA, the players have the right to say “we don’t want to be a union any more- let’s have a free market system”.

    ————————————————-

    if u heard they made a counter offer and the league rejected it, let me know. i think we would have heard about the league rejecting the offer made by the players.

    would u really want them to have a free market system? the way i look at it, u should be a fan of football over being a fan of the players. unless you do this for everyone who has to take a small paycut

  60. hobartbaker says: May 19, 2011 6:17 PM

    Someone give this guy a kazoo, a pair of oversize shoes, and a bright red plastic ball to put on the end of his nose.

  61. eslaught says: May 19, 2011 6:22 PM

    Ruined some kids’ greatest achievement spewing crap about the NFL and the NFLPAs failed negotitations. If that doesn’t classify him as a turd I don’t know what will. He didn’t have to respond to the chant just like Goodell didn’t. He could have given a great commencement speech (maybe, I’m not too sure of his mastery of the English language), but instead he uses a college graduation as a forum to continue to rip the league. Did he take $1 to give that speech? I highly doubt it.

  62. vetdana says: May 19, 2011 6:35 PM

    De Mo…just made it VERY clear that he was willing to risk EVERYTHING the PLAYERS had, including the 2011 season, to win this case !! For anybody who still thinks there will be anNFL 2011 Season…you are an eternal optimist ! Here is one Captain that will not go down with His ship but, jump off it, and leave the players to sink alone…. into the abyss !

  63. randolph32 says: May 19, 2011 6:37 PM

    To those trying to compare this nut to Marvin Miller, it’s not close.

    At the time the MLB players were in essence indentured servants. There was no option for Free Agency, you could play at the Salary offered, or, go home and wash cars.

    Curt Flood essentially gave up his playing career (albeit one that was near the end) to fight MLB….and he lost! I believe it was eventually Andy Messersmith who was fighting over a No trade clause and Killed the Reserve Clause.

  64. towniesman says: May 19, 2011 6:41 PM

    R.I.P. Mr Upshaw if you were alive there would be no lockout

  65. brasho says: May 19, 2011 6:50 PM

    The owners agreed to the business model that Gene Upshaw crammed down their throats with a threat to strike. Only two owners disagreed at the time (Bills and Bengals), but I think all along the owners knew the business model could not work and just wanted to avert a strike at that time.

    So if the NFLPA just wants to play football, why don’t they agree to a compromise to the owners’ demands instead of crying about the NFL not sticking to the sucker deal they agreed to and know can’t be sustained?

    The fans that don’t blame the players are obviously morons. With the already rich players getting bigger pieces of the pie, it’s the fans that have to fit the bill. The fans that don’t think the players should share or are to blame are the same types of people that think everybody in America should be a millionaire…. despite the fact that milk would cost $300 a gallon.

  66. skins359 says: May 19, 2011 6:52 PM

    jpmelon says:
    May 19, 2011 5:01 PM
    Why was this chode giving a commencement speech? What graduating class could possibly benefit from listening to the guy who doesn’t know what a lawsuit is?

    I can just see it….as the crowd was chanting at him, he responds, “Stop suing me. Go sue yourselves.”

    180
    ===========
    Smith is like an elite bump and run corner forced to play in a zone scheme. He’s a great litigation attorney and exactly the type of guy you want to go after murders, rapist, etc. However now he’s being asked to engage in a situation that requires much more finesse and he just can’t adapt. He still has that same bump and run mentality when he really needs to learn how to play zone.

  67. tommyf15 says: May 19, 2011 7:08 PM

    nfl25 says:
    would u really want them to have a free market system? the way i look at it, u should be a fan of football over being a fan of the players. unless you do this for everyone who has to take a small paycut

    I think that if the sides cannot come up with a revenue sharing plan they can both live with, they should just fall back on a free market.

    Would a free market be bad for the sport of football? I honestly don’t think so.

    I am on the players side here. The owners just don;t appreciate what they had. They had:

    -A salary cap
    -A franchise tag
    -A transition tag
    -A draft
    -A commissioner that could suspend a player at will
    -A tough drug testing program
    -And whatever else I’m forgetting

    And the owners said “no, that’s not enough…we want more”.

    I really don’t blame the players for throwing up their hands and saying “screw it, let’s take our chances in court”.

  68. jimmysee says: May 19, 2011 7:09 PM

    Better than “We want football” –

    “You’re an ass.”

  69. oldbyrd says: May 19, 2011 7:12 PM

    I said weeks ago that Dow Dow Bird Smith was an unqualified, over his head, Half A– lawyer. He has done the opposite of what he was hired to do. The players used the same mentality in hiring him as they do when they retire BROKE.. FACT 80% of the players retire broke. Now all you thumbs downers know what you can do with your thumbs.

  70. tommyf15 says: May 19, 2011 7:54 PM

    brasho says:
    May 19, 2011 6:50 PM
    The owners agreed to the business model that Gene Upshaw crammed down their throats with a threat to strike.

    I love it when the pro-owner people make things up.

    Every NFL CBA since 1987 has specifically stated that the players could not go on strike- they were required to finish the agreement.

  71. lostsok says: May 19, 2011 8:02 PM

    I agree with tommyf15 (is tommy REALLY a 15 year old female?). DeMaurice Smith is clearly driven by principle. While he hasn’t played the media game very well (it was foolish not to make a counter-proposal, knowing the NFL would never in a million years take it, so he can at least avoid the ‘players won’t negoitate’ myth…it’s clear to anyone with at least one functional brain cell that the NFL has no interest in an agreement…they want to destroy the union so they can make nearly unlimited PROFIT).

    DeMaurice Smith is no saint, but he’s no demon either. Trying to make him one is just lazy thinking on the part of understandably frustrated fans…but they’re so missing the point.

    Again: the NFL owners goal here is NOT a cba. It has never been about that. How much of a clue do you need than the fact that they made an agreement with the networks to ensure THEY would still get money even if fans had no football and players had no job? Yet people here get worked up about desertification?

    Sorry, but I think most of the people on this board are delusional if they think the offers the NFL has made are reasonable, or that the owners would even consider an honest negotiation at this point. They do not, and have not, had any intention of working out a deal both sides can live with.

    Viva la DeMaurice Smith! Fight the power!

    Look foooooor the union laaaabel!

  72. yajas says: May 19, 2011 8:07 PM

    tommyf15 says: “If the owners’ rep (Jeffrey Pash) was such a great negotiator, why couldn’t he get a deal done?”

    You can’t be serious with that comment. Have you ever negotiated with someone? Was that person covering their ears and yelling “La la la la la” the entire time? Did they ignore your proposal and instead stick it under their funny hat and call it macaroni?

  73. joetoronto says: May 19, 2011 8:09 PM

    btg1911:

    Please STFU. Thanks.

  74. king7key says: May 19, 2011 8:15 PM

    I love the NFL as much as the next man, but the longer the fans actually give a crap about football and its current state the longer this will go on. They will start caring when we don’t pay attention. Let it be a spike in other sports ratings. If that happen it will be a deal tomorrow. Sad to say but its the truth!!!

  75. nfl25 says: May 19, 2011 8:17 PM

    tommyf15 says

    so u really care more about the players getting more $$ than the game of football? how much fball do u watch? just curious, not trying to sound like a smart a$$

    also u named all the things that make the nfl great. and u act like the nfl was so blessed to have them. these poor players, i dont know how they do it

  76. cscfriarbob says: May 19, 2011 8:27 PM

    I have to laugh at this. Demoron Smith trying to get the imbeciles the public school system is churning out to understand the concept of giving up something they want in favor of some grander “principle”?

    The only principle these kids understand is if they misbehave they get to go meet him.

    You’ve lost, DeMoron. Even IF you should have won (and you shouldn’t have) it’s too late. Aside from some die-hard liberal union fanatics, you don’t have a supporter left. You’ve lost the fans, you’ve lost the kids, and you’ve lost the courts. Move on and move out.

  77. radrntn says: May 19, 2011 8:43 PM

    “and the winner of this years douche bag of the year award goes to DeMaurice Smith””

  78. saints25 says: May 19, 2011 8:44 PM

    Hey DeMoe how can you let this happen????????they cant handle there own money,read below—————————————————–

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    by NFLDraftBible

    Within two years, 78% of NFL players are either bankrupt or facing severe financial hardship……………………………………………………………..

    this is a BIG % of players

  79. nflfan101 says: May 19, 2011 8:51 PM

    tommyf15 says: May 19, 2011 5:58 PM

    Chew on this quote:

    “There’s nothing good at the bargaining table,” said NFLPA lawyer Jim Quinn at the April 6 Minnesota district court hearing. “We did it for 2 ½ years. It didn’t work out.”
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    Then put something on the bargaining table that is worth considering. It is better than turning up your nose, walking away from the CBA negotiations, decertifying the union, having certain players file suit, and then complaining.

    Go back and read everything on this mess and then come back and tell us just what the players want. The only two things I have heard from the players is (1) we want the old CBA, and (2) we want to play football.

    Well, the old CBA is not going to happen. The owners cannot and will not agree to that. Second, if the players want to play football, then why not negotiate a deal? Why not give a little and gain a little? Why not swap restricted agent for less total payout for player salaries?

    A deal can be made without screwing either side, but the truth is that D. Smith and his legal buddies don’t want to make a deal yet. They want to transfer more $$$ from the players to themselves and when it appears that they cannot transfer any more $$$, then they will negotiate. They do not care about the players or the game.

    FACT: D. Smith walked out of CBA negotiations, decertified the union, had certain players file suit, and then did not attend at least one court ordered mediation session.

    If fans, players, and PFT employees want football, they need to tell D. Smith to get his butt into negotiations.

  80. tommyf15 says: May 19, 2011 9:04 PM

    lostsok says:
    May 19, 2011 8:02 PM
    I agree with tommyf15 (is tommy REALLY a 15 year old female?).

    Sheesh. Yesterday I was an NFL player (on two threads) and now I’m a 15-year old female! :)

    nfl25 says:
    so u really care more about the players getting more $$ than the game of football? how much fball do u watch? just curious, not trying to sound like a smart a$$

    Never said I cared less about the game and more about the players making more money. My point still is that players have already made concession after concession to the owners, and people don’t even recognize it, or take it for granted. For example, agreeing to ANY salary cap is a major concession by the players.

    During the fall I watch WAY too much football.

  81. Dawggpound says: May 19, 2011 10:11 PM

    There should be third dumb and dumber movie called “Dumb, Dumber and Demaurice” for the way he has represented the players in this mess.

  82. easyeddie says: May 19, 2011 10:21 PM

    What kind of slimy gasbag would give a commencement speech like this?
    D Smith has zero class.

  83. upperdecker19 says: May 19, 2011 10:45 PM

    Shoulda went with…..”WE DIG FOOTBALL”

  84. raidermike says: May 19, 2011 11:13 PM

    The more Demoron opens his pie hole the more Al Davis doesn’t sound so out of touch anymore

  85. terminatorlikesmaids says: May 19, 2011 11:40 PM

    Soon the players are going to get it. 60% of revenue is a **** of a lot of money. The owners have a valid problem, with loss of public money and the ability to build and develop the league. 60% of 7 billion……..are you kidding me. Make an offer DeMo….stop flapping those lips……
    oh and by the way btg….nobody cares if they keep dropping your posts…you take yourself way to serious

  86. nocryinginbaseball07 says: May 20, 2011 4:39 AM

    First Snookie, now this guy? Are real commencement speakers really that hard to find?

  87. nmeagle33 says: May 20, 2011 1:19 PM

    IS SMITH GETTING PAID WHILE THEY’RE OUT?

    I appears the nflpa* really don’t understand the concept of negotiation: an offer made-don’t like it make a counter offer- and so on until neither side has all they want but, while neither side is entirely happy, have major points the need. (at least, part of those major points.

    It seems to me the players better wake up soon or they’ll be losing lots of money. Today’s economy it is not wise the shoot for the moon but to maybe have provisions that can make moves when the economy is better.

    SMITH APPEARS TO BE OUT TO DESTROY A SYSTEM THAT HAS WORKED IN FAVOR OF ONE THE MAY-IN ALL LIKELIHOOD-DESTROY THE GAME WE LOVE.

  88. nmeagle33 says: May 20, 2011 1:52 PM

    btw, under a free market system most players will be lucky to make $100,000.00.

    The big money will go to the stars-no wonder Brady and that bunch want to change the NFL.

    Also, only a few owners will pay to get those “stars” and we’ll again have a couple teams winning the SB.

    Myself, I enjoy the competitive NFL where on any given Sunday…

  89. walkinginthewasteland says: May 26, 2011 11:13 AM

    tommyf15 says: May 19, 2011 7:54 PM

    brasho says:
    May 19, 2011 6:50 PM
    The owners agreed to the business model that Gene Upshaw crammed down their throats with a threat to strike.

    I love it when the pro-owner people make things up.

    Every NFL CBA since 1987 has specifically stated that the players could not go on strike- they were required to finish the agreement.

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    tommyf15, you dont let facts interfere with your posts do you? That is exactly what happened. The old agreement was going to expire, and unless Upshaw got what he wanted, once the CBA was over, no more salary cap, ever. The players were going to strike.

    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFL-labor-pains-Part-One.html

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