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Forbes calls Bill Belichick highest-paid coach in sports

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Bill Belichick is the highest-paid coach in American sports, at least according to an estimate from Forbes.

The magazine says the retirement of Phil Jackson as coach of the Los Angeles Lakers makes Belichick the new No. 1 on the list of the highest-paid coaches, at an estimated $7.5 million. Seahawks coach Pete Carroll and Redskins coach Mike Shanahan are each believed to make a little less than that, about $7 million.

The truth is, no one really knows how much Belichick makes except Belichick, Patriots owner Robert Kraft and probably a few advisers to both men, none of whom are going to reveal Belichick’s salary. That’s why Forbes calls it an estimate.

But if Belichick is the highest-paid coach in sports, that’s a distinction he’s earned: It’s hard to argue with 140 wins and three Super Bowl rings in 11 years in New England.

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  1. chapnastier says: May 19, 2011 1:04 PM

    “Seahawks coach Pete Carroll and Redskins coach Mike Shanahan are each believed to make a little less than that, about $7 million.”

    Whats funny is that there are probably 30 coordinators who deserve more than these two.

  2. commoncents says: May 19, 2011 1:04 PM

    i would think baseball would have some bigger salaries, considering all the games. Good for BB if he is, but if you have no real numbers, how can you guess he is the highest?? rediculous!!

  3. pftequalsgreatjournalism says: May 19, 2011 1:07 PM

    Queue the haters….

    Congrats Hoody!

  4. arrogantathlete says: May 19, 2011 1:07 PM

    It would be nice one day to see this guy with out Brady.

  5. ampats says: May 19, 2011 1:12 PM

    Best Head Coach in all of sports !!

    Anyone who disagrees, make sure you post who is better and why?

  6. kellyb9 says: May 19, 2011 1:14 PM

    “arrogantathlete says:
    May 19, 2011 1:07 PM
    It would be nice one day to see this guy with out Brady.” See 2008 season… It’s arguably his best coaching job ever.

  7. litterofcola says: May 19, 2011 1:14 PM

    You can’t argue with his results, top coaches should be paid accordingly.

  8. carlgerbschmidt says: May 19, 2011 1:15 PM

    How many Super Bowls has he won since he got caught cheating? Oh, that’s right. Zero.

    Cheaters never win. Winners never cheat.

  9. nps6724 says: May 19, 2011 1:17 PM

    arrogantathlete says: May 19, 2011 1:07 PM

    It would be nice one day to see this guy with out Brady.

    ———————————

    Like in 2008?

  10. iamtalkingsolistenandlearn says: May 19, 2011 1:18 PM

    arrogantathlete says:
    May 19, 2011 1:07 PM
    It would be nice one day to see this guy with out Brady.

    *******************************************

    well we see how many playoffs wins and championships he has with the use of video aid

  11. billybats says: May 19, 2011 1:20 PM

    How many championships does he have where his team did not cheat?

    He’s pretty good at breaking league rules and stonewalling investigations, I’ll give you that.

  12. tombradyswig says: May 19, 2011 1:23 PM

    “Pete Carroll and Redskins coach Mike Shanahan are each believed to make a little less than that, about $7 million.”

    And that right there is comical to say the least, at least for Shannarat!!!! HE SUCKS!!!!!

  13. sickpuppyz says: May 19, 2011 1:25 PM

    arrogantathlete says: May 19, 2011 1:07 PM

    It would be nice one day to see this guy with out Brady.
    ————————————————-
    as in 2008 going 11-5 w/ Matt Cassell who hadn’t started a game since high school??????

    try something else hater! (i.e. spying, video etc)

  14. wwwfella says: May 19, 2011 1:25 PM

    he’s never won anything without brady

  15. gambeast5533 says: May 19, 2011 1:26 PM

    Two of his 9 years in New England were without Brady. He went 5-11 with Drew Bledsoe and 11-5 with Matt Cassel.

    His tenure in Cleveland, however, wasn’t so good.

  16. b1unt3d says: May 19, 2011 1:27 PM

    arrogantathlete.. did you miss the 2008 season?

  17. robzar says: May 19, 2011 1:29 PM

    @ arrogantathlete says:
    May 19, 2011 1:07 PM
    It would be nice one day to see this guy with out Brady.

    It would also be nice to one day see all the Haters move out of their mothers basements, but that’s probally not going to happen any time soon either.

  18. blarch says: May 19, 2011 1:31 PM

    arrogantathlete says:
    May 19, 2011 1:07 PM
    It would be nice one day to see this guy with out Brady.

    If only there was a season where Brady wasn’t able to play, like maybe because of an injury in the first minutes of the first game of the season. Then probably the backup would play the whole season. Boy if they had a record like 11-5 in a year like that, then you’d really have to like that coach eh? I’ll bet after such a season, he’d get an award or something, and the backup would get a sweet starting gig, maybe in KC or somewhere.

  19. mrizzo44 says: May 19, 2011 1:33 PM

    arrogantathlete says: May 19, 2011 1:07 PM

    “It would be nice one day to see this guy with out Brady.”

    Uh…did you miss the 2008 season, when Matt Cassel (who is just awful) won 11 games?

    I’d like to see Brady without Belichick.

  20. endzonezombie says: May 19, 2011 1:41 PM

    Paid for past accomplishments.

  21. burntorangehorn says: May 19, 2011 1:42 PM

    While the article linked in the original post might be accurate, Michael David Smith has made an error: Belichick in only the most highly-paid coach from the four major sports leagues (NBA, MLB, NFL, NHL). There are college coaches who earn more. For example, Tom Izzo made $8.7 million in 2006, and people have exceeded that since then.

    http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/02/damion-james-trying-to-do-too-much-for-l-1.html

  22. arrogantathlete says: May 19, 2011 1:42 PM

    I did see the 2008 season, they didn’t even make the playoffs!!! haha

  23. arrogantathlete says: May 19, 2011 1:44 PM

    arrogantathlete says: May 19, 2011 1:07 PM

    It would be nice one day to see this guy with out Brady.

    Oh yeah the Cleveland debacle.

  24. ampats says: May 19, 2011 1:47 PM

    arrogantathlete has demonstrated for all to see his vast knowledge of the NFL.

    Similar to yesterday’s brilliant poster bozosforall who stated that Seymour left the Patriots instead of what actually happened being traded to the Raiders and taking several days to show up in Oakland since he did not want to leave the Pats.

  25. defensivelion says: May 19, 2011 1:47 PM

    Probably because he is the head coach, D coordinator, and GM.

  26. chapnastier says: May 19, 2011 1:47 PM

    I hate Belichick as much as any other Patriots hater but it is strictly out of envy. The dude is a great coach and ignoring that is just pure ignorance.

  27. endzonezombie says: May 19, 2011 1:48 PM

    “he’s never won anything without brady”

    You mean Brady-the-3-point-Dominator? Truth is, Mr. Money for Belichick was Adam V., not Brady. Belichick hasn’t had had a championship since they low-balled Adam V. and he left – where he promptly helped win a championship for the Colts.

  28. blarch says: May 19, 2011 1:49 PM

    Also, whoever said he’s never won anything without Brady, he has two rings as D-coordinator of the Giants. His defensive game plan from the New York Giants’ 20-19 upset of the Buffalo Bills in Super Bowl XXV is now in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

    He’s one of the greatest coaches of all time. Get over it.

  29. elmoron says: May 19, 2011 1:49 PM

    If it is that high, he’s earned it. Playing against him at least twice each year are the highlights of the season. But I’m really surprised that Shanahan and Carroll command anywhere near that amount.

  30. karlpilkington says: May 19, 2011 1:56 PM

    It is hilarious how people tend to just gloss over that time in Cleveland.

  31. fanofschill says: May 19, 2011 1:58 PM

    Pats haven’t won since spygate? I always wonder how taping signals didn’t help the Patriots in the seasons in which they didn’t win SB’s? I mean in 2000, they went 5-11. You would think with taping signals they would have walked away with it all. Same for 2002, how did they go only 9-7 and miss the playoffs? 2005, how did Brady not know that blitz was coming against Denver? I would think with knowing team’s signals he would have known and never made that forced throw towards Champ Bailey? How bout vs. the Colts in the AFCC? Had their signals and still couldn’t convert a 3rd down? Amazing, 7 years and only 3 SB’s. Since the patriots were caught taping vs. the Jets in 2007 they actually have a better winning % then they did while taping, that’s crazy talk!!! How is that possible? Yeah but they only have a 2-3 playoff record since taping stopped? I guess the taping only helped in the playoffs, yep, when there is even more on the line, more NFL personal watching the Pats were able to still pull off the signal stealing and opponents in their most important games elected to not change their signals up? Yeah makes sense. Damn CHEATERS!’ You only won because of taping signals belichick!!!!

  32. philo13181 says: May 19, 2011 2:00 PM

    He’s a cheater

    End of story

  33. dryheaveone says: May 19, 2011 2:02 PM

    “arrogantathlete says:
    May 19, 2011 1:07 PM
    It would be nice one day to see this guy with out Brady.

    ———————————————–

    Hey numbnut, you did see him WITHOUT BRADY the year Brady ripped up his knee in the first game of the year. Result?…..11-5 record with Matt Casell. CASE CLOSED, Belichick is the best coach in football. DEAL WITH IT

  34. bennyanddajets says: May 19, 2011 2:02 PM

    Jets fan, so I hate the pats, but he is one of the best coaches in the NFL.

    @ampats- now you have to take a step back and think with your head not your heart. You said best coach in all sports. Did you forget about Phil jackson? Do not give me the crap he had jordan and pippen or shaq and kobe. In the NBA it is about coaching the egos. Phil is arguably one of the best coaches of all time. You think bill is better you need to get your head checked out.

  35. brutus9448 says: May 19, 2011 2:03 PM

    he costs money because he saves money

  36. Bubby Brister says: May 19, 2011 2:08 PM

    “It would be nice one day to see this guy with out Brady.”

    Not gonna point out the obvious as many others have about 2008, so I ask you this: What’s Phil Jackson without Kobe, MJ, Pippen or Shaq? Bill Walsh without Montana or Rice? Chuck Noll without the Steel Curtain? Lombardi without Hornung, Taylor, Starr, Nitschke?

    I could go on for days and days. Great coaches tend to surround themselves with great players. It’s part of the process.

    I’m a Steelers fan but the hating and discrediting of him (and Brady for that matter) just because of inferiority complexes they have with the Pats is starting to get pathetic. If you TRULY don’t recognize that he’s EASILY one of greatest coaches who’s ever been on the sideline — and the greatest of the past 20 years — you haven’t been paying attention.

  37. pftwstbshmc says: May 19, 2011 2:08 PM

    endzonezombie:

    You need to get your facts straight. The Patriots did not low-ball him. They gave him a good offer (basically the same amount as the Colts, but one year less) but he tested the waters. The Colts gave him a deal he really liked and he NEVER gave the Patriots organization a chance to match or better the offer the Colts gave him. He just signed right there on the spot. Which leads one to believe that there was something else going on that he didn’t like and just wanted out of New England. No wonder most fans up north boo him whenever he is in town.

  38. endzonezombie says: May 19, 2011 2:10 PM

    Belichick is a great coach, no doubt, but he has also had great staff to support him over the years. It can also be said that he has not won any championships without Crennel, Weiss, or Scott Pioli. Then again, it is also argued that Belichick’s coaching tree is not usually successful once they leave. He may not delegate well, or provide as much teaching as some other more successful coaching influences like Landry, Parcells, Walsh, and Holmgren. The true insights into his strengths and weaknesses as a coach will not be known until he retires. As an active coach, his techniques are not challenged because he continues to be successful – though recently only in the regular season.

  39. pftwstbshmc says: May 19, 2011 2:13 PM

    Hey bennyanddajets:

    Phil Jackson NEVER, repeat NEVER coached a team that wasn’t already stacked for winning. He NEVER took a sub-par team and turn them into a winner. He was not “one of the best coaches of all time”, just a very lucky one.

  40. mondzy805 says: May 19, 2011 2:16 PM

    See what cheating can do for you.

  41. endzonezombie says: May 19, 2011 2:17 PM

    pftwstbshmc:

    IIRC, the Pats franchised him for the previous two seasons before he finally left for a team that was willing to reward him with a solid multi-year contract. It must have been insulting to Adam that he was unable to negotiate a long term contract with the Pats after delivering 3 SBs for them. I think that explains why he left as soon as he found a team willing to reward him for his success.

  42. deadeye says: May 19, 2011 2:17 PM

    All these coaches making 7 milion dollars are greedy. Who needs that kind of money?

  43. kellyb9 says: May 19, 2011 2:26 PM

    @endzonezombie – Nobody was knocking down the door for Crennel, Weis, and McDaniels before Belichick. The Pats are still pretty good, and last I checked the vast majority of those coaches are still coordinators or worse.

  44. endzonezombie says: May 19, 2011 2:27 PM

    @ Bubby Brister:

    “Not gonna point out the obvious as many others have about 2008, so I ask you this: What’s Phil Jackson without Kobe, MJ, Pippen or Shaq? Bill Walsh without Montana or Rice? Chuck Noll without the Steel Curtain? Lombardi without Hornung, Taylor, Starr, Nitschke?”

    As part of Belichick’s legacy, historians in the future will certainly argue what was Belichich with videotaping equipment. It remains a mystery how far back during his SuperBowl era he emplyed those tactics. Coincidence or not, he hasn’t won signifcantly in the playoffs since he was ordered to stop. I am no Belichick hater, but his legacy will consider that influence on his previous success.

  45. d3murf says: May 19, 2011 2:33 PM

    @ mrizzo44 Said: “ummmm?!?!?!Uh…did you miss the 2008 season, when Matt Cassel (who is just awful) won 11 games?”

    You’re Joking right? Calling Matt Cassel “Awful” is just “Awful”. He had a Great yr–finally got the Chiefs back in the playoffs–w/ one of the best Young Rosters in all the NFL. Check out his stats. Men Lie. Women lie. But Stats Don’t!

    27 Td’s & 7 Int’s
    3116 yds
    93.0 QB Rating

    If that’s “Awful” then what’s “Good”? 82 td’s & 0 Picks?

    Quit w/ the Hyperbole

  46. endzonezombie says: May 19, 2011 2:34 PM

    @kellyb9: there is no argument here that Belichick’s coaching tree is substandard. For that reason, he cannot yet be compared to some of the coaching greats like Landry, Walsh, and Parcells that spawned so many other successful coaches and coordinators.

  47. endzonezombie says: May 19, 2011 2:39 PM

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coaching_tree

  48. bozosforall says: May 19, 2011 2:42 PM

    ampats says:
    May 19, 2011 1:12 PM
    Best Head Coach in all of sports !!

    Anyone who disagrees, make sure you post who is better and why?

    _____
    Phil Jackson

    11 titles to 3, none of which are under any cloud of a cheating scandal.

  49. bozosforall says: May 19, 2011 2:44 PM

    pftequalsgreatjournalism says:
    May 19, 2011 1:07 PM
    Queue the haters….

    Congrats Hoody!

    ______
    More like “queue the Pats fans to click the “thumbs up” button for any and all Belicheck buttkissing posts and to click the “thumbs down” button for anything to the contrary.

    New England sports fans = the biggest bunch of sheeple in all of sports fandom.

  50. bozosforall says: May 19, 2011 2:46 PM

    tombradyswig says:
    May 19, 2011 1:23 PM
    “Pete Carroll and Redskins coach Mike Shanahan are each believed to make a little less than that, about $7 million.”

    And that right there is comical to say the least, at least for Shannarat!!!! HE SUCKS!!!!!

    _____
    At least Shanny got his two SB rings without being caught cheating. Yes, cheating is the proper term for what he and the Pats were punished for.

  51. bozosforall says: May 19, 2011 2:47 PM

    robzar says:
    May 19, 2011 1:29 PM
    @ arrogantathlete says:
    May 19, 2011 1:07 PM
    It would be nice one day to see this guy with out Brady.

    It would also be nice to one day see all the Haters move out of their mothers basements, but that’s probally not going to happen any time soon either.

    __
    The biggest haters on the planet are the Laker and Yankee haters in New England. Too bad none of you losers will ever leave your mommy’s basements though.

  52. bozosforall says: May 19, 2011 2:50 PM

    ampats says:
    May 19, 2011 1:47 PM
    arrogantathlete has demonstrated for all to see his vast knowledge of the NFL.

    Similar to yesterday’s brilliant poster bozosforall who stated that Seymour left the Patriots instead of what actually happened being traded to the Raiders and taking several days to show up in Oakland since he did not want to leave the Pats.

    ______
    Seymour smartly took the money and simply played better with the Raiders than any of his replacements in New England, thereby making the Pats look like fools, much like you do here nearly every day, grampats.

  53. hobartbaker says: May 19, 2011 2:52 PM

    Belly has stepped up from frumpy sweats to a nice turquoise polyester dress shirt.

  54. blarch says: May 19, 2011 2:54 PM

    May 19, 2011 2:16 PM
    See what cheating can do for you.

    ___________

    Yes, look into superbowl champions of the past, you will find men with arms taped up so heavily that they become clubs, clubs that they used to beat their opponents over the head. You can watch Madden on NFLN smugly saying that ‘padding is checked by the officials during the pregame warmups, but if you put on the padding after that, it’s never checked’.

    If you are an adult, you should get used to this idea: every team will use every possible advantage in order to……wait for it…..WIN.

    All of you ‘pats are cheaters’ morons are comical. If your team won it all in the past, the skirted or flat out broke the rules, JUST LIKE THEIR OPPOSITION DID. Of course, maybe your team never won anything. I look forward to crapping on your teams achievements should they ever actually win.

  55. pats245 says: May 19, 2011 2:55 PM

    to all you haters,look the spy gate is over shut the hell up abt it,the only ones thats still talking abt it are the ones that are fans of garbage losing teams,if you are a fan of teams in the afc you can hang it up becus the PATS aren’t goin anywhere.

  56. Rhode Island Patriots Fan says: May 19, 2011 2:57 PM

    @endzonezombie—I agree that historians will factor the videotaping into their assessment of Belichick’s legacy, just as the Associated Press voters did when they voted him NFL Coach of the Year for 2007, the very same year the “scandal” came to light.

  57. bozosforall says: May 19, 2011 2:57 PM

    Bubby Brister says:
    May 19, 2011 2:08 PM

    I’m a Steelers fan but the hating and discrediting of him (and Brady for that matter) just because of inferiority complexes they have with the Pats is starting to get pathetic. If you TRULY don’t recognize that he’s EASILY one of greatest coaches who’s ever been on the sideline — and the greatest of the past 20 years — you haven’t been paying attention.

    ____
    If you really want to talk “inferiority complexes”, all you have to do is to look at the nearly 90-year old one that still exists as a result of the sheer dominance by the Yankees over the Red Sox in the better part of the 20th century. What you are actually seeing is the rest of the sports fans reacting to how poorly the New England sports fan base has handled this single decade of sports success, after many many years of mostly failure by their collective sports teams. New England sports fans have proven themselves to be not only poor losers over time but also poor winners, mainly due to their “inferiority complexes” over the long haul.

  58. blarch says: May 19, 2011 2:59 PM

    @kellyb9: there is no argument here that Belichick’s coaching tree is substandard. For that reason, he cannot yet be compared to some of the coaching greats like Landry, Walsh, and Parcells that spawned so many other successful coaches and coordinators.
    ________________

    Yes, here is wisdom. The measure of a coach is how many other successful coaches he spawns. Every team keeps a flowchart to track this to make sure that they made the right choices.

    It’s the most important metric.

  59. bozosforall says: May 19, 2011 3:00 PM

    pats245 says:
    May 19, 2011 2:55 PM
    to all you haters,look the spy gate is over shut the hell up abt it,the only ones thats still talking abt it are the ones that are fans of garbage losing teams,if you are a fan of teams in the afc you can hang it up becus the PATS aren’t goin anywhere.

    ______
    The only thing that “isn’t going anywhere” are the constant reminders of how your team cheated to win those three SBs. Just as you New England fools continually taunt Steelers fans about Big Ben or Jets fans about Rex Ryan, your punishment will always be Belicheck’s cheating. Live with it, loser.

  60. CKL says: May 19, 2011 3:00 PM

    EZzombie is a Colts fan…that explains a lot.
    Methinks he doesn’t know about how AV wanted to kick indoors to up his chances for the Hall…kinda like their QB has the advantage of. :)

    To all the GB fans who constantly post their cheater rants here:
    YOUR
    VERY
    OWN
    HEAD
    COACH
    had a chance to turn BB in to the league in 06 and he did not. He caught the Pats and they simply asked them to stop. Why is that do you think??? It’s because he’s old school and knows it was a common practice I bet. After all MM was with Marty S. in KC and I think Jimmy Johnson said publicly at the time the story broke that he, Jimmy J. learned about videotaping signals from Marty. BB broke the rules and they deserved to get punishment…but don’t act like it’s something that MADE them win SBs…that’s just utterly unsupportable and ludicrous.

    I won’t deny that the Pats miss RAC and Weis and that I don’t believe BB is responsible for their being good coords (though RAC had only been a DC for one year before BB hired him in NE)….but the rest of his coaches and FO people HE developed. And they worked well on the team, but a sign of success is if they were successful AWAY from BB and no coach yet has been,

    The last playoff game won by the Cleveland Browns was coached BY BB…so there’s that. They’ve had 5 coaches since BB and not one has managed a single playoff win though to be fair their 5th one hasn’t coached a game yet.

  61. Bubby Brister says: May 19, 2011 3:08 PM

    Never mind the fact that Bill Cowher, along with many others, have come out and said point blank that the videotaping actually accomplished very little for two reasons: 1. There was only so much you could do with such information and 2. Just about every freaking team in the league did similar things

    Tampering, stealing signals, Sal Alosi, steroids, yada yada yada. The ratio of human beings in this world who play it clean to ones who are willing to bend the rules isn’t as big as people may think. I can almost guarantee that all 32 teams in the league have a large handful of players who are willing to “cheat” and at least a few employees higher in the pecking order who are, if not all the way up to the owner.

  62. bozosforall says: May 19, 2011 3:26 PM

    blarch says:
    May 19, 2011 2:59 PM
    @kellyb9: there is no argument here that Belichick’s coaching tree is substandard. For that reason, he cannot yet be compared to some of the coaching greats like Landry, Walsh, and Parcells that spawned so many other successful coaches and coordinators.
    ________________

    Yes, here is wisdom. The measure of a coach is how many other successful coaches he spawns. Every team keeps a flowchart to track this to make sure that they made the right choices.

    It’s the most important metric.
    _______
    Too bad the teams don’t get to say who the best coaches of all time are. That’s up to the fans, ALL of the fans, not just the Pats sycophants.

  63. bozosforall says: May 19, 2011 3:27 PM

    Bubby Brister says:
    May 19, 2011 3:08 PM
    Never mind the fact that Bill Cowher, along with many others, have come out and said point blank that the videotaping actually accomplished very little for two reasons: 1. There was only so much you could do with such information and 2. Just about every freaking team in the league did similar things

    Tampering, stealing signals, Sal Alosi, steroids, yada yada yada. The ratio of human beings in this world who play it clean to ones who are willing to bend the rules isn’t as big as people may think. I can almost guarantee that all 32 teams in the league have a large handful of players who are willing to “cheat” and at least a few employees higher in the pecking order who are, if not all the way up to the owner.

    _____
    No wonder why this country is going to hell in a handbasket.

  64. accordngs says: May 19, 2011 3:28 PM

    And now he will soon be asking for a raise.

    The new HD 3D camcorder’s cost way more now!

  65. endzonezombie says: May 19, 2011 3:32 PM

    @Bubby Brister: this particular thread is not a forum on cheating in the NFL per se, but rather a consideration of how great is Belichick when the benefit of videotaping is factored into his success. Pats fans would argue it is minimal, while other fans might argue it was significant. The historians will weigh in after he retires. More confidential sources may be revealed once it no longer has any impact on Belichick’s career. There is some evidence that the league itself buried some damning evidence to prevent a more widespread scandal in 2007 and previous seasons.

  66. thedizzypub says: May 19, 2011 3:40 PM

    Pete Carroll? Are you kidding? A .500 career coach in the NFL and made millions at USC while running a dirty program and the Seahawks are paying him $7 million! Wow!

    @Bubby Brister on a side note I would personally love to see a steroid olympics and then a non steroid olympics. I want an all out cheating sport, guys all juiced up would be fun to watch. I want someone to an 8 second flat 100! Now that would be fun and i would guarantee the tv ratings would be thru the roof!

  67. endzonezombie says: May 19, 2011 3:41 PM

    @Rhode Island Pats Fan:
    “I agree that historians will factor the videotaping into their assessment of Belichick’s legacy, just as the Associated Press voters did when they voted him NFL Coach of the Year for 2007, the very same year the “scandal” came to light.”

    Those are the same AP voters that voted Brian Cushing Defensive Rookie of the Year a SECOND TIME after it was revealed that he used a banned substance during his rookie season. Apparently they don’t consider cheating as an important consideration in awards as fans do. BTW, Cushing has never been the same after he stopped cheating, and some would argue that neither has Belichick.

  68. thedizzypub says: May 19, 2011 3:49 PM

    b1unt3d says:
    May 19, 2011 1:27 PM
    arrogantathlete.. did you miss the 2008

    And the Pats missed the playoffs! Just sayin!

  69. bravin4evr says: May 19, 2011 3:56 PM

    Any owner willing to pay shannadick or carroll $7mil a yr should be fired; yet they lock out players!

  70. thedizzypub says: May 19, 2011 4:08 PM

    ampats says:
    May 19, 2011 1:12 PM
    Best Head Coach in all of sports !!

    Anyone who disagrees, make sure you post who is better and why?

    Scotty Bowman coached 5 NHL teams for 29 seasons.
    28 playoff appearances
    9 Stanley Cups

  71. Bubby Brister says: May 19, 2011 4:16 PM

    “No wonder why this country is going to hell in a handbasket.”

    I’m not sure if this exactly what you’re implying but I’ll clear it up anyway: I’m not condoning cheating. All I’m saying is that to discredit the Hood for having an advantage other teams did not is likely wrong. Of course, I’m not an NFL employee or even an”insider”, but I would be willing to bet that it’s more equaled out than one would think.

    “@Bubby Brister: this particular thread is not a forum on cheating in the NFL per se, but rather a consideration of how great is Belichick when the benefit of videotaping is factored into his success. Pats fans would argue it is minimal, while other fans might argue it was significant. The historians will weigh in after he retires. More confidential sources may be revealed once it no longer has any impact on Belichick’s career. There is some evidence that the league itself buried some damning evidence to prevent a more widespread scandal in 2007 and previous seasons.”

    Same point I made to bozoforall. If you want to factor in the videotaping to his success, you also should take the time to factor in that his competition was probably doing very similar things. Now, Belichick very well may have done more than we know about. Time will tell on that one.

  72. olskool711 says: May 19, 2011 4:23 PM

    Whoa!!!!

    Anybody on here that has ever coached knows that its impossible to achieve any level of excellence as a team sports coach when you are in a negative, cancerous environment.

    I’m not the biggest Belichick guy, but nobody could have survived in Cleveland at that time. Arthur the Rat had reached the bottom of his pit and was doing every act of sabotage short of the movie Major League to move the Browns to Baltimore. His only failure, that you can really pin him on, was the call he made on Bernie. I suspect he would like a “do over” on that one.

    Who Belichick really is has come out over time.

    His success has been amazing.

    He deserves a ton of credit for developing Tom Brady. How many of you would try to argue that Brady would have developed into the quarterback he is if he went to any other franchise? The majority of teams probably would have cut him if they gave him a free agent look.

    Not very many people on the planet could achieve the level of excellence in his profession that Belichick has.

    Ps. I dislike New England.

  73. carlgerbschmidt says: May 19, 2011 4:39 PM

    Wow, you Pats fans are more pathetic than vike fans. You’re kind of a sensitve bunch. You can’t argue with the fact that the Pats have done nothing since they’ve been forced to quit cheating. Plus, Brady is done now, too, he’s more worried about his pony tail than playing football. You’re about to enter an abyss deeper than the one the vikes are in.

    Enjoy the season (assuming there is one)!

  74. La Milicia Negra says: May 19, 2011 4:45 PM

    Well Forbes are WRONG!!

    maybe highest paid in AMERICA or american sports!!

    highest paid coach is…

    1) Jose Mourinho $14.0 – 16.5 million per year..

    2) Pep Guardiola $13.5 – 15.0 million per year..

    3) Sir Alex Ferguson $9.5 – 11.5 million per year..

    Not to mention, National coaches..

    1) Felipe Scolari… $24 million per year..

    2) Fabio Capello $ 16 million per year..

  75. carlgerbschmidt says: May 19, 2011 4:45 PM

    P.S. An “abyss” is a really deep hole.

  76. thetooloftools says: May 19, 2011 4:58 PM

    WORTH EVERY DIME !

  77. bozosforall says: May 19, 2011 5:02 PM

    Bubby Brister says:
    May 19, 2011 4:16 PM
    “No wonder why this country is going to hell in a handbasket.”

    I’m not sure if this exactly what you’re implying but I’ll clear it up anyway: I’m not condoning cheating. All I’m saying is that to discredit the Hood for having an advantage other teams did not is likely wrong. Of course, I’m not an NFL employee or even an”insider”, but I would be willing to bet that it’s more equaled out than one would think.

    “@Bubby Brister: this particular thread is not a forum on cheating in the NFL per se, but rather a consideration of how great is Belichick when the benefit of videotaping is factored into his success. Pats fans would argue it is minimal, while other fans might argue it was significant. The historians will weigh in after he retires. More confidential sources may be revealed once it no longer has any impact on Belichick’s career. There is some evidence that the league itself buried some damning evidence to prevent a more widespread scandal in 2007 and previous seasons.”

    Same point I made to bozoforall. If you want to factor in the videotaping to his success, you also should take the time to factor in that his competition was probably doing very similar things. Now, Belichick very well may have done more than we know about. Time will tell on that one.

    __
    Probably? Then why was no one else punished?

    FAIL

  78. bozosforall says: May 19, 2011 5:04 PM

    carlgerbschmidt says:
    May 19, 2011 4:39 PM
    Wow, you Pats fans are more pathetic than vike fans. You’re kind of a sensitve bunch. You can’t argue with the fact that the Pats have done nothing since they’ve been forced to quit cheating. Plus, Brady is done now, too, he’s more worried about his pony tail than playing football. You’re about to enter an abyss deeper than the one the vikes are in.

    Enjoy the season (assuming there is one)!

    _____
    Only thing worse than a New England fan is a Green Bay one. You fools are still trading on the ancient titles that your team won eons ago, without which your team would only have two measly titles to their credit. Hardly something to pound your hollow chests about. Stick to the sheep bopping, carl.

  79. tombradysponytail says: May 19, 2011 5:15 PM

    @carlgerbschmidt says:
    May 19, 2011 4:39 PM
    Plus, Brady is done now, too, he’s more worried about his pony tail than playing football.

    _________

    I resent that. He’s neglecting me just as much as he’s neglecting his teammates.

  80. semperfi24 says: May 19, 2011 5:48 PM

    bozosforall says:May 19, 2011 2:46 PM

    tombradyswig says:
    May 19, 2011 1:23 PM
    “Pete Carroll and Redskins coach Mike Shanahan are each believed to make a little less than that, about $7 million.”

    And that right there is comical to say the least, at least for Shannarat!!!! HE SUCKS!!!!!

    _____
    At least Shanny got his two SB rings without being caught cheating. Yes, cheating is the proper term for what he and the Pats were punished for.

    _______________________________

    Tell me you are joking right? The Broncos were fined, and they lost draft picks as a penalty for violating the salary cap. They were paying players off the record. That is arguably more reprehensible than what Belichick did. You can call Belichick a cheater all you wont, and Belichick earned that from the fans, but lets not gloss over the others that have been caught and penalized:

    “NEW YORK — The Denver Broncos have been fined $950,000 and will lose their third-round pick in next year’s NFL draft for circumventing the salary cap between 1996-98.

    The penalties were levied Thursday following an agreement involving the league, its union and the team.

    The violations included agreements between the team and several players to defer salary payments with interest and an agreement not to waive a player before a certain date. Both raised issues with accounting for the salary cap.

    In addition to the penalties against the team, the NFL said an agent for a former player agreed to donate $100,000 to charity. Neither the agent nor the player was identified.”

  81. rc33 says: May 19, 2011 5:57 PM

    No one could possibly care about this topic this much.
    Bozo, you likely have 50% of the posts professing how much you hate Belichick and the Patriots. We definitely get it by now. That jailed former IMF head isn’t sweating bullets over his predicament like you are over this.
    Decaf my man, decaf.

  82. bozosforall says: May 19, 2011 6:55 PM

    rc33 says:
    May 19, 2011 5:57 PM
    No one could possibly care about this topic this much.
    Bozo, you likely have 50% of the posts professing how much you hate Belichick and the Patriots. We definitely get it by now. That jailed former IMF head isn’t sweating bullets over his predicament like you are over this.
    Decaf my man, decaf.

    __
    Find me ONE SINGLE POST where I say that I “hate” Belichick or that I “hate” the Pats. Try reading what the words say instead of projecting how you feel about other teams on what other posters say. Also. please note that every post that I make gets a response, therefore someone else must care more they want to admit. Including you.

    All I have to do is to look at all of the “thumbs down” responses to see who “really cares”. Lots and lots of homer Pats fans, that’s who cares. LMAO

  83. bozosforall says: May 19, 2011 6:58 PM

    semperfi24 says:
    May 19, 2011 5:48 PM
    bozosforall says:May 19, 2011 2:46 PM

    tombradyswig says:
    May 19, 2011 1:23 PM
    “Pete Carroll and Redskins coach Mike Shanahan are each believed to make a little less than that, about $7 million.”

    And that right there is comical to say the least, at least for Shannarat!!!! HE SUCKS!!!!!

    _____
    At least Shanny got his two SB rings without being caught cheating. Yes, cheating is the proper term for what he and the Pats were punished for.

    _______________________________

    Tell me you are joking right? The Broncos were fined, and they lost draft picks as a penalty for violating the salary cap. They were paying players off the record. That is arguably more reprehensible than what Belichick did. You can call Belichick a cheater all you wont, and Belichick earned that from the fans, but lets not gloss over the others that have been caught and penalized:

    “NEW YORK — The Denver Broncos have been fined $950,000 and will lose their third-round pick in next year’s NFL draft for circumventing the salary cap between 1996-98.

    The penalties were levied Thursday following an agreement involving the league, its union and the team.

    The violations included agreements between the team and several players to defer salary payments with interest and an agreement not to waive a player before a certain date. Both raised issues with accounting for the salary cap.

    In addition to the penalties against the team, the NFL said an agent for a former player agreed to donate $100,000 to charity. Neither the agent nor the player was identified.”

    ____
    How much did you say that Shanahan was fined again? Nothing, you say? That’s right, the TEAM was fined, not the coach. The coach was unpunished. As opposed to both the team and Belichick being fined in the case of Spygate. Sorry but you fail here.

  84. greenman660 says: May 19, 2011 11:46 PM

    That is surprising, the main culprit behind the biggest cheating scandal in NFL history (and still up to his tricks, no way they had 14-2 talent last year). It reflects badly on Kraft and the entire NFL that this guy is still allowed to operate.

  85. rc33 says: May 20, 2011 10:01 AM

    No one could possibly care about this topic this much.

    Endlessly spits venom in Belichick’s direction with some of the most profoundly absurd stuff imaginable….then states “when did I ever say I hate Belichick?”
    You’re a joke bozo.

    Now go back to your wooden shack and finish wiring those bombs.

  86. semperfi24 says: May 20, 2011 10:14 AM

    You never said anything about Shannahan getting rings without being fined, you said Shanny got his 2 SB rings without being caught cheating. Truth of the matter is, he won 2 rings, while being caught cheating the salary cap in both years……whether he was fined personally or not, he cheated, just like Cowher (salary cap violation), just like Shanny (salary cap violation), just like Don Shula (tampering), etc….

    If you had said, “atleast Shanny got his 2 rings without being fined for cheating”, you would have a point, but you didnt say that did you? You said he got his without being caught cheating. Your response to my post is trying to talk about of both sides of your mouth, to quote you, “try reading what the words say”. What your words say, has nothing to do with Shanny not being fined, but only mention never being caught, which he was caught, you my friend, FAIL

  87. bozosforall says: May 20, 2011 10:39 AM

    rc33 says:
    May 20, 2011 10:01 AM
    No one could possibly care about this topic this much.

    Endlessly spits venom in Belichick’s direction with some of the most profoundly absurd stuff imaginable….then states “when did I ever say I hate Belichick?”
    You’re a joke bozo.

    Now go back to your wooden shack and finish wiring those bombs.

    ___
    Weak sauce, rc33. But then again, that’s par fo the course for losers like you.

  88. bozosforall says: May 20, 2011 10:44 AM

    semperfi24 says:
    May 20, 2011 10:14 AM
    You never said anything about Shannahan getting rings without being fined, you said Shanny got his 2 SB rings without being caught cheating. Truth of the matter is, he won 2 rings, while being caught cheating the salary cap in both years……whether he was fined personally or not, he cheated, just like Cowher (salary cap violation), just like Shanny (salary cap violation), just like Don Shula (tampering), etc….

    If you had said, “atleast Shanny got his 2 rings without being fined for cheating”, you would have a point, but you didnt say that did you? You said he got his without being caught cheating. Your response to my post is trying to talk about of both sides of your mouth, to quote you, “try reading what the words say”. What your words say, has nothing to do with Shanny not being fined, but only mention never being caught, which he was caught, you my friend, FAIL

    ____
    Shanny wasn’t responsible for the salary cap, Dave Blando was Denver’s salary cap director from 1997 to 2001. So it was Blando who was responsible. Shanny was not “caught” with anything, unlike in the Pats case, where Belichick was the one who actually had to turn in the evidence (the tapes) that he was caught red-handed with to the Commish. You FAIL once again.

  89. rc33 says: May 20, 2011 12:12 PM

    “Weak sauce”
    A convincing, well-thought-out retort.
    …coming from the proud owner of about 50 of the 88 responses on this thread.

    But I do have an appreciation for bitter and angry people with no life and, by every possible indication, more spare time time than everyone else on the planet, having the sack to call anyone else a loser.

    Chutzpah, my man.
    Salute!

  90. lynntw401 says: May 20, 2011 2:02 PM

    arrogantathlete says: May 19, 2011 1:07 PM

    It would be nice one day to see this guy with out Brady.

    Hey idiot, how about the year Tom Brady was out all season and the Pats still won 11 games with their backup QB? I’d love to see Rex Ryan without Mark Sanch…ehhh nevermind, one talks too much and the other is a game-manager/backup…so they can stay together and hype their average offense all the way to the off-season. QB’s and coaches are linked together in football, they are not dependent on one another. It’s the nature of the game. Maybe if you had a franchise quarterback…assuming you’re a Jets fan…you would have to deal with the same clowns making the same assertions that your coach would be nothing without his QB. Only then would you realize how annoying and unfounded such claims are. Until then…enjoy LT?…and…Rex Ryan’s wife’s toes? Wackest most overrated team in football.

  91. bozosforall says: May 20, 2011 4:08 PM

    rc33 says:
    May 20, 2011 12:12 PM
    “Weak sauce”
    A convincing, well-thought-out retort.
    …coming from the proud owner of about 50 of the 88 responses on this thread.

    But I do have an appreciation for bitter and angry people with no life and, by every possible indication, more spare time time than everyone else on the planet, having the sack to call anyone else a loser.

    Chutzpah, my man.
    Salute!

    ______
    Glad that you can come to grips with the fact that you are a bitter and angry person with no life and, by every possible indication, more spare time time than everyone else on the planet. And judging from the nearly 200 “thumbs down” that I got on more than one of my posts on this thread, it appears that this is a near epidemic in New England.

    As for the 50/88 replies crack, I’d be willing to bet that your total post count here on PFT far exceeds mine, as well as the total time that you have spent here on PFT far exceeding the less than a week that I have been here posting. Look in the mirror if you want to see the real loser, rc33. Or just go down to your local watering hole and look for any dufus in a Pats jersey.

  92. rc33 says: May 20, 2011 4:49 PM

    I don’t think that’s how you spell “doofus.”

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