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Dad of player lost at sea calls survivor’s story “crock of bull”

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More than two years after Raiders linebacker Marquis Cooper was lost at sea along with friends and fellow football players Corey Smith and Will Bleakley, Cooper’s dad is saying he doesn’t believe the only survivor’s account of what happened.

Nick Schuyler, who was found clinging to the fishing boat the four men were sharing three days after they went missing, has written a book to describe what happened. But Marquis’s father, Bruce Cooper, believes that Schuyler’s account is an untrue, self-serving story.

“The moment Nick hits the water, he becomes Superman,” Bruce Cooper said. “That defies what seasickness is.”

Cooper claims that he has looked into the matter and determined that Schuyler’s account isn’t physically possible.

“When Nick Schuyler is saying happened, it didn’t even go down like that — I know that for a fact, and I wasn’t even out there, but I know that for a fact based on things that I’ve come across,” Bruce Cooper said. “This whole story was nothing but a big crock of bull.”

Cooper says there are inconsistencies in Schuyler’s story, but that’s not exactly surprising — when you spend three days hanging onto a capsized boat for dear life, and the Coast Guard finds you starving and dehydrated, you’re probably not going to have a perfect minute-by-minute recollection of everything that happened.

The truth is, Bruce Cooper’s comments are more about a father’s grief than a serious analysis of what happened on that fishing trip that went horribly wrong. It’s easy to understand why Cooper can’t accept what happened, but it’s too bad that he feels the need to lash out at Schuyler.

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  1. arrogantathlete says: May 22, 2011 10:45 AM

    Come on, can’t the guy make a little money off of his friends deaths without being criticize. This guy probably wants a cut of the book sales. Feel sorry for those kids.

  2. iamtalkingsolistenandlearn says: May 22, 2011 10:51 AM

    I’m sure several idiots will come on here and say Bruce Cooper is just a hater. And the majority of those dolts will be DEmo lovers

  3. kyleortonsarm says: May 22, 2011 10:52 AM

    Why write a book about that? A 200 word news article can sum it up fine and I can sum it up faster. Fishing boat capsizes, three dead, one survivor found days later. I wonder what all the other pages say.

  4. joetoronto says: May 22, 2011 10:58 AM

    You should investigate a little more, MDS.

    He’s absolutely right, no way it went down like that.

  5. jw731 says: May 22, 2011 11:02 AM

    The saddest part is..as a father of boys the same age…It’s just a Fathers grief for the loss of his boy….he can say whatever he wants, as i have never walked in his shoes, and he is entitled in my mind, to vent any damn way he pleases…….

  6. snnyjcbs says: May 22, 2011 11:04 AM

    My guess is it became Dog Eat Dog out there, only so much room on that Boat and people maybe get scared, a little kick here or there?, who will ever know but the guy playing the part of Superman? When I first heard the account when it happened it never sounded right to me.

  7. bluefan204 says: May 22, 2011 11:06 AM

    I truly feel for him and his family, but…what an idiot. It just doesn’t get any more disrespectful on his part. He’s not the only one who lost someone that day, and yet, no one else involved is publicly bashing the only guy who lived to tell the story.

  8. qj1984 says: May 22, 2011 11:10 AM

    So because he happens to be a grieving father we shouldnt listen to him when he says Schuyler is exaggerating. That’s just common sense. Maybe Cooper’s dad is wrong about calling the whole book a crook of bull but dont think for one second that Schuyler’s book isn’t a vast exaggeration of the truth. Because to be honest, and I am not trying to be mean, the real story probably isn’t anywhere near as interesting as the tale he’s going to tell. And writing a book is about making money. No one is going to buy a book that tells a boring story.

  9. facebook.com/joesimmonscomic AKA Slow Joe (Bucs fan) says: May 22, 2011 11:14 AM

    My heart aches for Mr. Cooper, but this is pointless. It’s not going to bring his son back.

  10. indycolt45 says: May 22, 2011 11:27 AM

    How could he know for a fact if he wasn’t there…?

  11. whatswiththehate says: May 22, 2011 11:33 AM

    bluefan204 says:May 22, 2011 11:06 AM

    I truly feel for him and his family, but…what an idiot. It just doesn’t get any more disrespectful on his part. He’s not the only one who lost someone that day, and yet, no one else involved is publicly bashing the only guy who lived to tell the story.
    ————————
    Your attack of this father is very insensitive. He isn’t “bashing” Nick. He is questioning the account of the incident. He is entitled to do so as a father and a parent.

    And shame on folks at this site to dismiss this kid’s father beliefs as simply a father “grieving.”

    One wonders if it was your kid, you would simply believe the story of the lone survivor or would you do you own investigation.

  12. EJ says: May 22, 2011 11:37 AM

    I’m not sure what to believe with this story.

    What I am sure about is, that the father has a right to speak his mind and can vent in any fashion needed to get over, or at least cope with his sons death.

    No one may ever know what really happen out there on that boat, only speculate.

  13. contract says: May 22, 2011 11:38 AM

    Sounds like someone wants some of the proceeds from the book.

  14. cmr123 says: May 22, 2011 11:42 AM

    I am lost, what does he say happened?

  15. tednancy says: May 22, 2011 11:44 AM

    Schuyler’s account is very suspicious. The fact that he’s trying to make $ off the tragedy at this point speaks to his overall credibility.

    I have serious doubts as to his character and the veracity of his story.

    Nick Schuyler just seems like so many other sketchy guys I’ve known that I am inclined to NOT believe him.

    He doesn’t pass the eye test.

  16. jpmelon says: May 22, 2011 11:45 AM

    I didn’t read the guys book, but from what I saw on the tv special; his story seemed credible.

    These guys were friends. I think it is perfectly logical to assume that this guy did everything he could to save his friend. I don’t beleive the kid wrote the book 100% accurate. I would assume that he left out some embarrassing arguments between himself and his friends or exaggerated his attempts to help others rather than save himself. But I don’t like that the father is publicly criticizing the kid though. I doubt it truly honors his son’s wishes. It adds controversy to a terrible situation.

    If I was talking to the father, I’d say that I completely understand where he is coming from; but he needs to remember that he’s speaking out against his son’s friend.

  17. micker716 says: May 22, 2011 11:46 AM

    I can understand his anger. Schuyler not only survived the ordeal, but now after more than two years, writes a book that brings the pain of Cooper’s loss back to the surface while profiting from his death.

  18. canetic says: May 22, 2011 11:51 AM

    Warren Moon has a theory about what happened

  19. bluefan204 says: May 22, 2011 11:59 AM

    whatswiththehate says: May 22, 2011 11:33 AM

    Your attack of this father is very insensitive. He isn’t “bashing” Nick. He is questioning the account of the incident. He is entitled to do so as a father and a parent.

    How is it insensitive? When a guy says:

    “it didn’t even go down like that — I know that for a fact, and I wasn’t even out there, but I know that for a fact”

    THAT is insensitive, and incredibly stupid. Yes, he is entitled to grieve and vent as a father who lost a son in terrible circumstances, but he has NOTHING to stand on as far as coming out publicly and saying that he knows things “didn’t go down like that” when in the same sentence, he admits that he “wasn’t even out there”. Call the guy who survived a liar in private. When you call him out publicly and tell him you KNOW what happened, when in reality you do NOT have a clue, you make yourself out to be a damn fool who appears, on the surface, to be looking for a payday.

  20. east96st says: May 22, 2011 12:14 PM

    An explanation of what, exactly, the dad is disputing and why he feels it is wrong would have been far more helpful than merely dismissing it outright as a “father’s grief”. You may be 100% right, but you did your readers a disservice but not giving us the information that drew you to that conclusion.

  21. whatswiththehate says: May 22, 2011 12:17 PM

    What I find very disturbing about this article is the writer’s decision to tell us who to feel sorry for. For him to simply dismiss Cooper’s father’s desire to look into the death of his son as simply a “grieving father” seem very insulting.

    On top of that Mr. Smith seems to clearly believe Nick Shuyler’s account as if it’s gospel simply because he was the only survivor; yet himself stated that Nick story may not be quite the way it happened. But who cares..right Mr. Smith? Nick was the sole survivor and he’s entitled to emblish a story as much as he wants to play the hero…REALLY?

    It’s one thing to survive a horrific incident like that but it’s another to continually emblish the story so you can seem like “Superman” when you know all you did was simply try to stay alive. I think that is what must be ticking off Cooper’s father.

    By the way, what did he do with the sale of the book? Did he donate the proceeds or pocket it? And didn’t he write the book last year? Why does this article sound like Nick just wrote the book? Did he write another one?

    Nick claimed last year on Oprah that he did not have a choice about writing the book. He claimed he was told that if he didn’t tell “his account of the story” some publication as going to write the story anyway.

  22. tinopuno says: May 22, 2011 12:23 PM

    iamtalkingsolistenandlearn says:
    May 22, 2011 10:51 AM
    I’m sure several idiots will come on here and say Bruce Cooper is just a hater. And the majority of those dolts will be DEmo lovers

    ————————————————

    TOOL!

  23. goombar2 says: May 22, 2011 12:24 PM

    Schuyler is the guy in the grass knoll! But it happened in the Gulf of Mexico?

    What is it conspiracy day at PFT?

    When someone dies folks look for someone to blame. But his story holds up.

    The publisher was going to move forward with the project with or without Schuyler so he decided to jump on board. He’s giving his money to charity.

    Based on how the men died, it makes sense why he didn’t want to talk to the family. Hypothermia does strange things to the mind and a person shouldn’t be remembered that way…

  24. jw731 says: May 22, 2011 1:04 PM

    Jeez…….Oprah………publishers…..proceeds….blah blah blah, a father lost a son, he has every right to question it until he is in the place where he should have been before his son, i swear this site brings out the worst in people…..

  25. iamtalkingsolistenandlearn says: May 22, 2011 1:15 PM

    It’s been TWO years. It’s not grieving anymore, it’s called “can’t let it go.

    Either come up with PROOF that you KNOW what happened, or LET IT GO

  26. richm2256 says: May 22, 2011 1:19 PM

    when you spend three days hanging onto a capsized boat for dear life, and the Coast Guard finds you starving and dehydrated, you’re probably not going to have a perfect minute-by-minute recollection of everything that happened.

    ————————————————-

    And yet, he suddenly remembers enough to write a book.

    Interesting.

  27. iamtalkingsolistenandlearn says: May 22, 2011 1:25 PM

    @tinopuno

    Need a tissue?
    Another tampex?
    A binky?
    A life?
    A friend?
    A hobby?
    LOSER!

  28. macker1283 says: May 22, 2011 1:30 PM

    Wow, imagine surviving 4 torturous days lost at sea. Watch 3 of your friends die. And then have people blaming and criticizing you for being the one to survive. Unbelievable…ONLY IN AMERICA! Talk about survivor’s guilt. There’s nothing wrong with him writing a book about his story. Anyone who claims there is something wrong with writing a book and telling a survival story and making money off it is an idiot People do it all the time. Aron Ralston. Ingrid Betancourt. Elie Wiesel. And about a million others.

    And this website always gives opinions. People who are mad at that must be visiting this site for the first time. You are free to form your own opinion believe it or not.

  29. cmr123 says: May 22, 2011 1:31 PM

    I think the coast guard actully found him in the first hour, kept it a secret, sent out search boats and planes all over the place,found the boat and put him back on the boat and then let him there for 4 and 1/2 hours and then found him again and saved him. This was all done for PR purposes, I know it for a fact, i wasnt there but it is a fact because there is no way possible for 1 person to have more endurance and will power, than another, it is not possible. Nor is it poosible that the only person there could tell the truth.
    There is no way.

  30. cappa662 says: May 22, 2011 1:47 PM

    I happen believe the guy who was actually there and was starving and dehydrated for 3 days lost at sea.

    Marquis’ dad should just shut up because it looks like Marquis had a little blood on his hands from what the Coast Guard said.

  31. frankvzappa says: May 22, 2011 2:24 PM

    how is somebody who was supposedly in the ocean for three days not showing effects of hypothermia?

  32. locutus says: May 22, 2011 2:29 PM

    whatswiththehate says: May 22, 2011 11:33 AM

    Your attack of this father is very insensitive. He isn’t “bashing” Nick.

    Hater, what really is insensitive is your clockwork racial angle on all the stories you comment on. Always taking the “black” perspective, no matter what.

    Give it a f*****g rest!

    Grieving, venting, unable to let it go, what have you are not black and white issues, you stupid POS.

  33. edgerinn says: May 22, 2011 2:31 PM

    Those of you trying to lend credence to Cooper should watch what his actual issues are. He’s questioning, among other things, whether Schuyler was even at sea for three days.

    The reason he doesn’t want to believe the story is largely because Schuyler said that Marquis Cooper is the person who accidentally capsized the boat. He doesn’t have any evidence to contradict anything Schuyler said, other than he doesn’t want to believe it.

    How is it shady for Schuyler to write a book about what happened?

  34. locutus says: May 22, 2011 2:31 PM

    iamtalkingsolistenandlearn says: May 22, 2011 1:15 PM

    It’s been TWO years. It’s not grieving anymore, it’s called “can’t let it go.

    Either come up with PROOF that you KNOW what happened, or LET IT GO

    Dude, you cannot put a time frame on how someone grieves at the loss of a loved one, especially a child.

  35. ravensfan4life52 says: May 22, 2011 2:39 PM

    i don’t believe the guy who was there. i mean come on why wouldn’t he make some stuff up to make him look like he’s awesome? it’s a sad story and i think it’s disrespectful he would write a book about it in the first place. that’s unnecessary.

  36. pacificamjr says: May 22, 2011 3:06 PM

    Bruce Cooper has jumped the shark!

  37. iamtalkingsolistenandlearn says: May 22, 2011 3:10 PM

    @locutus

    My point is that I don’t think its grieving. I believe he is BLAMING the survivor. He also says he “knows for fact” he isn’t telling the truth.

    Well if he “KNOWS FOR FACT” that the survivor is lying, then he needs to spell it out exactly what he knows, and how he knows it, or leave that kid alone.

  38. endzonezombie says: May 22, 2011 3:26 PM

    The survivor’s story wasn’t credible to many two years ago, either. His story kept changing to put himself in the best possible light. He conducted no media interviews for weeks after his rescue. He made up his explanation as he went along, while using hypothermia as an excuse for his many inconsistencies. Supposedly, the three friends were supposed to rotate sitting on top of the hull to get out of the cold water. The alternative theory is that once the survivor got on top of the hull, he refused to give up his position and the other two became too weak to climb out of the water – and expired. There was no evidence to either prove or disprove the survivors account, but his story was that the other two gave up their fight to live while he alone had the strength to survive. Very doubtful.

  39. bigperm33 says: May 22, 2011 3:33 PM

    What does the writer know? has the writer looked into it at all? maybe the father is wrong, and maybe it is just grief. But what does the writer (or PFT) know? Do they know the truth? Did they do the research and talk to people and analyze the story? Or is PFT just offering an uninformed opinion of what the father said? And if so, it is beyond appropriate.

  40. jacksrants says: May 22, 2011 3:35 PM

    Imatalkingsolistenandlearn .

    I hate to be rude but you are a bonified IDIOT .

    You obviously have no sense of grief or loss .
    I recently lost my daughter and I’ll bet I never get over these feelings or stop grieving .

    Unfortunealty one day you will expierence real loss of a very close loved one and then you will GET it . Unitl then you ought to shut up abuot a subject you obviously know nothing about .

    I hope you don;t voice such opinions in public because I know personally I would have a hard time not punching you in the face .

    I feel Mr. Coppers pain . I live it every day .

  41. endzonezombie says: May 22, 2011 3:36 PM

    Actually there were three others who perished, not two.

  42. saxmachine69 says: May 22, 2011 3:40 PM

    Some of you people are seriously troubled in the head. This father has every right to question this story. If someone is using and exaggerating and falsifying the story of your son’s death in a selfish attempt to profit, you are more than welcome to call that person out.

    He would not be given the chance to write this book had Cooper and Corey Smith’s deaths not made this story national news. Writing a book about the story, and exaggerating or lying about the events is a pitiful attempt to profit from his friends deaths. I applaud Mr. Cooper for saying something

  43. enders9 says: May 22, 2011 3:41 PM

    Unless you’ve lost a kid, you have no idea what it feels like or how long it would take to grieve losing a kid

    Unless you have a kid, you can’t even begin to imagine what it would feel like to lose one.

    And he’s right, a lot of Schulyers story was complete horse crap

    I don’t have a problem with him writing a book about it, there are plenty of people who would have liked to hear the entire story. But how much of the money he is making off the book is he giving tot he victims family? If Schuyler isn’t giving each family as much as the profits as he is making then I think the other parents have every right to speak out against him.

  44. endzonezombie says: May 22, 2011 3:47 PM

    @edgerinn: To understand Cooper’s position, you have to research this entire matter starting two years ago. There were many people – and experts – outside the families of the victims who questioned the survivor’s account. The fact that no bodies were recovered means that no evidence of instant or gradual death ( or foul play) was available for analysis. The oars normally lashed down inside the boat were missing as well. Another point is the survivor said in his media interviews that his hypothermia made his recollection vague and insconsistent. Really? How, then, is he able to write a detailed book two years later when he couldn’t recall many fact facts two weeks or two months later? The rumors doubting the victims insocsistent story persisted to this day – and thus the reason for the book is to clear his own name.

  45. santolonius says: May 22, 2011 4:01 PM

    the accounts in this story are too full of pure conjecture to justify this kind of speculation in print, especially considering its tragic nature.

  46. hoochbcs says: May 22, 2011 4:18 PM

    I just wanted to make sure everyone realizes this book came out a year and three months ago. I had no idea. I don’t remember any publicity push at all. Cooper in the video just looked like he flew off the handle (possibly after a drink or two) to a local reporter who then ran with the story.

    I’d cut him some slack and cut Schuyler the same for being mostly low profile since the accident.

    All Cooper did here was sell more copies of a book most people didn’t realize was even published.

  47. iamtalkingsolistenandlearn says: May 22, 2011 4:19 PM

    @JACKSRANTS

    Well, maybe one day you will have the opportunity to punch me in the face Mr. Internet tough guy.
    Now STFU

    YOU dont know what he feels. YOU dont know if he has an angle. YOU dont know if he has some sick hatred for this kid over an ACCIDENT
    You EFFIN MORON!

  48. goombar2 says: May 22, 2011 4:32 PM

    Because of Nick’s (Schuyler) physical condition — the 24-year-old was dehydrated and showed signs of hypothermia, but he was upgraded from serious to fair condition Tuesday — the Coast Guard was unable to give a full account of what happened.

    Dr. Mark Rumbak said the 24-year-old was in good condition but will remain in intensive care in case there are complications. Schuyler probably could have lived only another five to 10 hours, Rumbak said.

    Schuyler’s temp was 89 degrees when they pulled him out.
    ——————————————————————

    Sounds like a guy in the water to me… How great a boater was Cooper?

    ——————————————————————
    Marquis Cooper was an avid fisherman. When he played at Washington, he considered majoring in marine biology — until he looked at the math requirements.

    —————————————————————–

    Could his lack of math skill lead to his failure to understand his anchor situation and what would happen? Very Probable.

    —————————————————————–

    So what does Bruce claim?

    ———————————————————-
    Reports would come out that Marquis simply gave up. Bruce Cooper says his son would never do that. His 26-year-old son, he says, would fight to the end to survive.

    —————————————————————-

    Under his right mind that’s probably true… But under his medical condition? He probably went mad. It is completely consistant with hypothermia.

    —————————————————————–

    To the folks that think what Bruce Cooper is doing is just fine and a proper form of mourning? Well, keep in mind his wife has tried to commit suicide while he’s been busy on this skipe hunt for blame. This skipe hunt is also most likely going to lead to Schuyler’s publisher to file lawsuits of defamation against Cooper, which there have been threats of.

    They proper way to mourn your son and his memory is to not notice the depression of your wife and almost lose her to suicide and get sued into bankruptcy? Wow! Some folks here just don’t have a clue.

  49. commandercornpone says: May 22, 2011 6:01 PM

    snipe hunt, not skipe hunt.

    schuyler’s condition was probly brought under control pretty quickly.

    the father cant stand that maybe his son did anything wrong. more ghost-chasing.

    people need to be realistic. i know someone whose son just died in a canoeing accident. the kid took a lot of risks. his dad knew about it, and doesnt seem to be blaming everyone else in the world or looking for a scapegoat.

  50. skeeter1970 says: May 22, 2011 6:48 PM

    I never believe what the white-devil says.

    And I’m white.

  51. pizzon says: May 22, 2011 6:51 PM

    everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but to me this dad just sounds like he cant quite come to grips with the fact that his NFL son didnt have the desire to live as much as this schyler kid. to attack his version of the events seems like a last act of desperation to hold onto his son. this is just my opinion and I feel for the guy but he really needs to let this go.

  52. dirtytaco says: May 22, 2011 7:10 PM

    There’s alot of whiny bitches posting here. You almost sound as bad as Mr. Cooper

  53. goombar2 says: May 22, 2011 7:41 PM

    The other families don’t have a problem with Schuyler. Why? Because they’re normal. This Cooper fella has no identity other than through his son. By keeping his silliness going, he keeps his son alive.

    Heck, Cooper has blamed the Coast Guard too… This guy just walks around blaming folks at random for his son’s death.

    It was a sudden accident and I feel for his loss, but he doesn’t have the right to defame folks.

    There is no “Mentalist” conspiracy here. There is no murder. And PFT should take a little responsibility here giving Mr. Cooper a platform for his craziness without offering proof of what he’s saying.

  54. thetooloftools says: May 22, 2011 8:20 PM

    “The truth is, Bruce Cooper’s comments are more about a father’s grief than a serious analysis of what happened on that fishing trip that went horribly wrong”.

    The truth ?

    You can’t handle the truth !

  55. endzonezombie says: May 23, 2011 10:27 AM

    @goombars: And just what is YOUR platform for defending Nick Schyler with wild speculation of your own. Your conjecture that Cooper wasn’t a good boater because his ‘math skills’ were weak is totally ridiculous. You better check your body temperature – seems like your reasoning is suffering from hypothermia.

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