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Kevin Williams “at peace” with Starcaps decision, hopes league forgets about it

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After battling the NFL for years regarding a four-game suspension for ingesting “Starcaps,” Vikings defensive tackle Kevin Williams seems to accept that the battle is over.

“With all this going on, maybe [the NFL] forget about it and we can go on with our regular work,” Williams told Jeremy Fowler of the St. Paul Pioneer Press. “If it happens, it happens. I found a great place to work out in Little Rock. I’ll be there getting ready and see you in Week Five if that’s the case.”

Yeah, the NFL probably isn’t going to forget about it.  It’s one of the few things in which they’ve been able to declare victory this offseason. (Fowler says Williams seems “at peace” with the decision.)

Williams, his buddy Pat Williams, and Saints defensive end Will Smith will all presumably miss the first four games of the season, whenever that season starts.

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19 Responses to “Kevin Williams “at peace” with Starcaps decision, hopes league forgets about it”
  1. benh999 says: May 23, 2011 1:54 PM

    Does Pat Williams even have four games left in him?

  2. fwippel says: May 23, 2011 1:57 PM

    Still can’t help but think that the NFL is out of line with these three suspensions (Williams, Williams, Smith).

    The league knew that StarCaps contained a banned substance that was not listed on the label, and it did NOT disclose this information to the players. If the league was so concerned about player safety, why did they hide this information from the players until deciding to level suspensions?

    In addition, the league is not applying their “law” equally, as they have admitted to not suspending some players who took StarCaps, but proceeded to suspend these three.

    Oh well, at least this one victory might help save what little is left of Goodell’s once oversized ego.

  3. willycents says: May 23, 2011 2:09 PM

    we are all responsible individually for what we place in our bodies. If my livelihood depended upon me monitoring what I ate/drank/injected, I would be very certain to analyze the ingredients of every thing that I used. To blame another for my failure to do that, when the other produces a list of known substances that could cost me money if I used them, borders upon a complete lack of personal responsibility.

  4. thephantomstranger says: May 23, 2011 2:16 PM

    I hope there are more than four games this season.

  5. bluestree says: May 23, 2011 2:22 PM

    The league tells the players what they “can” use and not worry about testing positive. They know the players will try other stuff, and not telling them when they discover one of the many supplements is tainted is a way for them to cast a wide net for cheaters. Their number one concern isn’t player safety as regards supplements. That’s a “stray from this list at your own peril” situation. They want to catch guys like the Williams’ and the Smith’s as a deterrant.

  6. kissbillsrings says: May 23, 2011 2:42 PM

    I hope they all get 4 games for each year they dragged this out…it was the PLAYERS responsability to check & see if it was ok to use…they were the ones to blame, all they had to do was check with the league & get a yay or nay….SUSPEND THEM….

  7. TurdSandwich says: May 23, 2011 2:43 PM

    Starcaps? Don’t they sell that at the theater with Raisinettes?

  8. goombar2 says: May 23, 2011 3:05 PM

    Eh, Kevin William is a steroid freak… He’s just making up this starcaps story. He heard about starcaps from Pat Williams and decided to jump on the bandwagon to see if he could get out of the suspension.

    I’ll tell you this, there’s less juice in Minute Maid than what’s coursed through Mr. Kevin Williams.

  9. theytukrjobs says: May 23, 2011 3:17 PM

    The players unknowingly put a substance into their bodies, and therefore violated the terms of a policy that their union signed off on. Looking only at that angle, it is hard to feel sorry for them.

    But it isn’t that simple. The league knew Starcaps had the substance, and stayed coy. The judge, after reviewing all the evidence, outright accused them of ignoring player safety by keeping the contents secret in order to flex their muscles and make examples out of some players.

    The problem really is that the league is punishing the players. But the league itself is not being punished. It would be a lot easier to swallow if the league fired or suspended without pay some of their own employees who were responsible for keeping the dangerous substance a secret.

    They are not obligated to tell the players what they know about substances, but it is common ethical practice when you discover a supplement that you know many players use that you have to tell them about it. The NFL let the first wave of players off when positives came in, then pounced on the second wave.

    Kind of a joke really.

  10. carlgerbschmidt says: May 23, 2011 3:23 PM

    thephantomstranger says:
    May 23, 2011 2:16 PM
    I hope there are more than four games this season.

    __________-

    Do you mean that the vikes win? Because there probably won’t even be that many…

  11. fwippel says: May 23, 2011 4:41 PM

    To willycents and bluestree,

    Your stance only works if you assume that every player takes a substance he wishes to use to a chemist and make sure that everything contained within it is listed on the label. Maybe that’s what the league wants. But for the league to knowingly conceal this information from the players is the part that is most troublesome. They can’t justify that while at the same time claiming to be concerned about the health of the players.

    That said, I’d be very suspicious of an NFL approved supplements list. There’s a lot of money to be made by getting on that list, and substances left off of it aren’t going to generate as much profit.

  12. Justin says: May 23, 2011 4:57 PM

    Ugh even as a Vikings fan I tire of reading any headline that has the word Starcaps in it. I don’t really like how these guys got screwed where as others didn’t but that is just how it goes sometimes. Lets hope we get a productive 12 out of him then if there is that many. (Check out my MN sports blog http://minnesporta.wordpress.com)

  13. bigdan7885 says: May 23, 2011 5:02 PM

    Whenever I hear about this Starcaps, I always think of Star Crunch. What a delicious treat.

  14. goombar2 says: May 23, 2011 5:50 PM

    StarCaps is a diuretic. They supposedly (if you believe their story) took the junk to quick lose weight so they could collect big bonuses instead of being in shape. The bonus money was for being in shape.

    So let me get this straight, they were cheating the system to get money they didn’t earn using a supplement not approved containing a masking agent.

    But it’s not their fault, because they weren’t cheating with steroids, just cheating with their obligation to be in shape… That right there is viking logic! Reminds of the drug dealer who calls the police to report someone stole his drugs.

    It’s real nice Kevy has found peace with this…

  15. contra74 says: May 23, 2011 7:23 PM

    goombar2 says:
    May 23, 2011 5:50 PM
    That right there is viking logic! Reminds of the drug dealer who calls the police to report someone stole his drugs.
    ——————–
    Wouldnt you do it!? Lets pretend you have a job…if your boss came up to you and said he would double your salary next week IF you lost 15 lbs from now til then…would you do it!? I would.

    But you know what, youre right. As for the logic…the Viking fan logic is better than the Packer logic which goes “Well, the judge tossed out Johnny Jollys second charge so that means he never did it in the first place!” PLEASE! Everyone knows he did it, he even admitted he did it but because of a plea deal it magically never happened? good one guys. now try getting your CBA back from the State.

  16. MossMoon2Packers says: May 23, 2011 9:46 PM

    Hey, goombar2: The real juicer and steroid freak is Clayroids, and everyone knows it. But, Clayroids is smarter than his collegiate teammate, Brian Cushing, who got caught. I suspect that Clayroids relies on the super-secret masking drugs and techniques used by the East Germans, and it’s worked thus far. But, if the NFL uses the World Anti-Doping Agency to perform player testing (as the NFL indicated it might), the jig will be up for Clayroids. You’ll then see a huge drop-off in his production. But, looking on the bright side, at least his testicles will no longer be raisin-sized.

  17. goombar2 says: May 24, 2011 1:26 AM

    I don’t think anyone claims at this point Jolly didn’t use purple drank. Most Packer fans want him cut immediately. Most didn’t want to give him a second chance. So, don’t quite understand that… Thanks for playing!

    The hate for Clay Mathews is amazing. No proof he’s ever done anything illegal. He didn’t have 25 sacks or something outrageous. He’s a darn good player, but he’s got improvement in him.

    But it’s just like vike fans and their organization to try to deflect their problems instead of taking responsibility… Cause, heck, that could lead to winning or something outrageous!!!

  18. truthserum4u says: May 24, 2011 8:30 AM

    willycents says:
    May 23, 2011 2:09 PM

    we are all responsible individually for what we place in our bodies. If my livelihood depended upon me monitoring what I ate/drank/injected, I would be very certain to analyze the ingredients of every thing that I used. To blame another for my failure to do that, when the other produces a list of known substances that could cost me money if I used them, borders upon a complete lack of personal responsibility.
    ——————————————–

    While I agree with your view of personal responsibility, you do seem to ignore any ethical responsibility on the league’s part to inform the players of what they found in Star Caps.

    An even greater disburbance is the uneveness of handing out punishment since they let other violators go without penalty. This would be like you working for a company who discovered some of your co-workers were taking extra long breaks and let them go with a warning, and then suspended you for the same offense.

  19. brewdogg says: May 24, 2011 11:25 AM

    goombar2 says:
    May 23, 2011 3:05 PM
    Eh, Kevin William is a steroid freak… He’s just making up this starcaps story. He heard about starcaps from Pat Williams and decided to jump on the bandwagon to see if he could get out of the suspension.

    I’ll tell you this, there’s less juice in Minute Maid than what’s coursed through Mr. Kevin Williams.

    goombar2 says:
    May 24, 2011 1:26 AM
    The hate for Clay Mathews is amazing. No proof he’s ever done anything illegal. He didn’t have 25 sacks or something outrageous. He’s a darn good player, but he’s got improvement in him.

    But it’s just like vike fans and their organization to try to deflect their problems instead of taking responsibility…
    ———————————————-

    Your hate for Kevin Williams is amazing. No proof he’s ever taken a PED. He didn’t have 25 sacks or something outrageous. In fact, after putting up 22 in his first 2 years, he’s only averaged about 4.5/yr. He’s a darn good player, and has 6 Pro Bowls and 5 1st-team All-Pros to prove it.

    But it’s just like a Pack fan to try to deflect their problems instead of taking responsibility…. He must be juiced, it has nothing to do with our terrible interior line…..

    Unless you want to contend this guy has been juicing for over a decade and never been caught, and except for this Starcaps thing, never even been rumored, you need to shut up. The guy has been virtually the same size since he was drafted (he was 305 as a rookie), and except for the spike in sacks his first two years (could be explained by the one-gap scheme and playing next to Hovan), his production has been consistent since his freshman year in college.

    Your boy Matthews couldn’t even gain a starting spot over Kaluka Maiava, and after entering the program at 160 lbs and being a reserve LB and ST his whole time there, somehow he magically became big and strong enough to play DE senior year? And now he’s ringing up the sacks in the NFL….. Hmmmm…….

    Do you really want to continue with the speculation?

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