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	<title>Comments on: Worst moments since last work stoppage focuses on Wisconsin</title>
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		<title>By: toolkien</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[toolkien]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 20:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[***-Losing guards Marco Rivera and Mike Wahle in the same offseason (4-12 record ensues, Favre throws almost 30 picks in the process)***

The Pack didn&#039;t lose simply by those two moving on. In 2004, 57% of the payroll went to the O, and the &quot;paper&quot; (the contracts) Thompson inherited had the Packers paying 64% of the payroll to the offense in 2005. Paying to keep Wahle and Rivera would have upped the O % from there. The Packers were so far out of whack because of Sherman as GM, something had to be done.

In two short years after that skewed season of 2005, 51% of the payroll went toward the D, and only 48% toward the O even with Favre&#039;s bloated 13% of the entire salary base (without Favre, the D/O split was 58%/41% and the Pack was back in the NFC championship game after finally securing a playoff bye and some homefield. Defense wins championships, something Favre apparently never learned.

Unfortunately it pissed of Her Highness that she couldn&#039;t run the team, so she &quot;retired&quot;.

By the way, this past SB season the D/O split was 59% defense, 40% offense, and without Rodger&#039;s salary, the split was 62%/37%! Too bad Thompson didn&#039;t do the &quot;right&quot; thing and fill the team (and coaching staff) with Favre buddies and spend 80% of the payroll on the offense.

Incidentally, the remaining 1% is special teams.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>***-Losing guards Marco Rivera and Mike Wahle in the same offseason (4-12 record ensues, Favre throws almost 30 picks in the process)***</p>
<p>The Pack didn&#8217;t lose simply by those two moving on. In 2004, 57% of the payroll went to the O, and the &#8220;paper&#8221; (the contracts) Thompson inherited had the Packers paying 64% of the payroll to the offense in 2005. Paying to keep Wahle and Rivera would have upped the O % from there. The Packers were so far out of whack because of Sherman as GM, something had to be done.</p>
<p>In two short years after that skewed season of 2005, 51% of the payroll went toward the D, and only 48% toward the O even with Favre&#8217;s bloated 13% of the entire salary base (without Favre, the D/O split was 58%/41% and the Pack was back in the NFC championship game after finally securing a playoff bye and some homefield. Defense wins championships, something Favre apparently never learned.</p>
<p>Unfortunately it pissed of Her Highness that she couldn&#8217;t run the team, so she &#8220;retired&#8221;.</p>
<p>By the way, this past SB season the D/O split was 59% defense, 40% offense, and without Rodger&#8217;s salary, the split was 62%/37%! Too bad Thompson didn&#8217;t do the &#8220;right&#8221; thing and fill the team (and coaching staff) with Favre buddies and spend 80% of the payroll on the offense.</p>
<p>Incidentally, the remaining 1% is special teams.</p>
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		<title>By: msnpack</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[msnpack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2011 23:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Basically everything that happened under Mike Sherman was a memory I&#039;d like to forget.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basically everything that happened under Mike Sherman was a memory I&#8217;d like to forget.</p>
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		<title>By: brewdogg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brewdogg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2011 01:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is anybody else looking forward to the time when Packers and Vikings conversations can be had WITHOUT mentioning Favre?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is anybody else looking forward to the time when Packers and Vikings conversations can be had WITHOUT mentioning Favre?</p>
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		<title>By: rodgersisapiimp</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rodgersisapiimp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 17:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Favre leaving hurts?  Why?  Rodgers is a far better qb?  I don&#039;t miss the harry high school interceptions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Favre leaving hurts?  Why?  Rodgers is a far better qb?  I don&#8217;t miss the harry high school interceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: aaronrodgersbelt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aaronrodgersbelt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 16:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;2. Aaron Rodgers ignoring cancer patient’s autograph request&quot;

Really? lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;2. Aaron Rodgers ignoring cancer patient’s autograph request&#8221;</p>
<p>Really? lol</p>
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		<title>By: thephantomstranger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thephantomstranger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 15:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1. Losing to Vikings at home in 1998 to snap long home winning streak. Marked a changing of the guard in the division and forced the Pack to draft defensive backs with their first three picks the next year to try to deal with Moss.

2. Getting destroyed at home in the 2004 playoffs by 8-8 Minnesota.

3. Chasing off Brett Favre and then finishing 6-10 without him one season after finishing 13-3 with him.

4. Favre coming back to Lambeau to destroy the Pack in a Viking uniform.

5. Favre destroying the Pack at Metrodome in his first game against them.

6. Bitterness of hating Favre after loving him for so long.

7. Having to legally change my son&#039;s name from Brett to Aaron. He was really mad about that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Losing to Vikings at home in 1998 to snap long home winning streak. Marked a changing of the guard in the division and forced the Pack to draft defensive backs with their first three picks the next year to try to deal with Moss.</p>
<p>2. Getting destroyed at home in the 2004 playoffs by 8-8 Minnesota.</p>
<p>3. Chasing off Brett Favre and then finishing 6-10 without him one season after finishing 13-3 with him.</p>
<p>4. Favre coming back to Lambeau to destroy the Pack in a Viking uniform.</p>
<p>5. Favre destroying the Pack at Metrodome in his first game against them.</p>
<p>6. Bitterness of hating Favre after loving him for so long.</p>
<p>7. Having to legally change my son&#8217;s name from Brett to Aaron. He was really mad about that.</p>
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		<title>By: ruvelligwebuike</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ruvelligwebuike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 15:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To reiterate the RICE FUMBLED post...

That game was the end of an era. Holmgren left, Reggie left, and there was no one to reign Favre in. 

The Falcons loss made it a reality. I went from poppin&#039; the cork in the first quarter because I knew no one could beat us at home in the playoffs to having doubts before every game. Paint it however you want, we never got solid quarterback play in the playoffs from 99 on.

Even the 4th and 26 game. We ran for 212 yards. We sacked McNabb 8 times. You can point to 4th and 26...but ultimately an OT interception sealed our fate. The next year, another 4 pick playoff game, at home, against an 8-8 Vikings team. 6 picks against the Rams. And we don&#039;t need to talk about the Giants game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To reiterate the RICE FUMBLED post&#8230;</p>
<p>That game was the end of an era. Holmgren left, Reggie left, and there was no one to reign Favre in. </p>
<p>The Falcons loss made it a reality. I went from poppin&#8217; the cork in the first quarter because I knew no one could beat us at home in the playoffs to having doubts before every game. Paint it however you want, we never got solid quarterback play in the playoffs from 99 on.</p>
<p>Even the 4th and 26 game. We ran for 212 yards. We sacked McNabb 8 times. You can point to 4th and 26&#8230;but ultimately an OT interception sealed our fate. The next year, another 4 pick playoff game, at home, against an 8-8 Vikings team. 6 picks against the Rams. And we don&#8217;t need to talk about the Giants game.</p>
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		<title>By: jvibottomline</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jvibottomline]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 15:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To all Packers Fans,
Yes, Rice did FUMBLE, BUT

1) Beebe was touched DOWN
2) Young was Injured
3) Rice and Hearst were Injured
4) Ricky Watters was an IDIOT and Adam Walker SUCKED]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all Packers Fans,<br />
Yes, Rice did FUMBLE, BUT</p>
<p>1) Beebe was touched DOWN<br />
2) Young was Injured<br />
3) Rice and Hearst were Injured<br />
4) Ricky Watters was an IDIOT and Adam Walker SUCKED</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 14:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh right...XXXII, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh right&#8230;XXXII, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 14:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here are a random 5, in no particular order:

1. 4th and 26/Favre&#039;s chuck-and-duck to Walker.
2. The Infante era.
3. Freddie Joe Nunn effectively ending Majik&#039;s career - which may have indirectly led to the Favre era, however.
4. Vick at Lambeau.
5. Ahmad Carroll.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are a random 5, in no particular order:</p>
<p>1. 4th and 26/Favre&#8217;s chuck-and-duck to Walker.<br />
2. The Infante era.<br />
3. Freddie Joe Nunn effectively ending Majik&#8217;s career &#8211; which may have indirectly led to the Favre era, however.<br />
4. Vick at Lambeau.<br />
5. Ahmad Carroll.</p>
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		<title>By: lbpackfan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lbpackfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 13:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1. Giants NFCCG loss 2008

2. 4th and 26

3. Losing to Minnesota in Playoffs

4. Brett Favre ordeal...truly awful...2008 summer of hell...the trade...the signing with Minnesota...beating us twice in 2009...see his idiot wife posing next to some Viking chaunce fan with a #4 &quot;ThanksTed&quot; custom jersey on...everything sucked....

5. Falcons Wild Card game 2003

6. Mike Sherman era

...all of these painful memories washed away with the 2010 season, and return of the Lombardi Trophy to Green Bay...thank you thank you thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Giants NFCCG loss 2008</p>
<p>2. 4th and 26</p>
<p>3. Losing to Minnesota in Playoffs</p>
<p>4. Brett Favre ordeal&#8230;truly awful&#8230;2008 summer of hell&#8230;the trade&#8230;the signing with Minnesota&#8230;beating us twice in 2009&#8230;see his idiot wife posing next to some Viking chaunce fan with a #4 &#8220;ThanksTed&#8221; custom jersey on&#8230;everything sucked&#8230;.</p>
<p>5. Falcons Wild Card game 2003</p>
<p>6. Mike Sherman era</p>
<p>&#8230;all of these painful memories washed away with the 2010 season, and return of the Lombardi Trophy to Green Bay&#8230;thank you thank you thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: MCxShow</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MCxShow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 12:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[*Correction: Losing to Atlanta in 2002 Playoffs to mark first loss at home in the playoffs at Lambeau Field.*]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Correction: Losing to Atlanta in 2002 Playoffs to mark first loss at home in the playoffs at Lambeau Field.*</p>
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		<title>By: MCxShow</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MCxShow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 12:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a Packers fan, these are the lowest points, to me, since 1987:

Games:
1. 4th and 26
2. Losing to Falcons in 2001 to end undefeated winning streak at Lambeau Field during playoffs
3. 1998 Playoff game vs. 49ers due to the b.s. of a Jerry Rice fumble AND LeRoy Butler int not being correctly called due to lack of replay challenge

Operational:
1. The whole Brett Favre ordeal
2. Mike Holmgren leaving
3. Drafting Tony Mandarich]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Packers fan, these are the lowest points, to me, since 1987:</p>
<p>Games:<br />
1. 4th and 26<br />
2. Losing to Falcons in 2001 to end undefeated winning streak at Lambeau Field during playoffs<br />
3. 1998 Playoff game vs. 49ers due to the b.s. of a Jerry Rice fumble AND LeRoy Butler int not being correctly called due to lack of replay challenge</p>
<p>Operational:<br />
1. The whole Brett Favre ordeal<br />
2. Mike Holmgren leaving<br />
3. Drafting Tony Mandarich</p>
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		<title>By: briman141</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[briman141]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 12:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brett Favre blowing the game against the NYG in the NFC championship game. 

Brett Favre drama of retirement and unretirement

Brett Favre in purple]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett Favre blowing the game against the NYG in the NFC championship game. </p>
<p>Brett Favre drama of retirement and unretirement</p>
<p>Brett Favre in purple</p>
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		<title>By: dempsey63</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dempsey63]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 11:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[T.J. Rubley overrules Coach Mike Holmgren&#039;s command to go for a QB sneak on 3rd &amp; 1 at Minnesota in 1995 and opts for a pass play. 

A lineman attempts to call a time out, but the ball is snapped anyway and Rubley flings an interception while running for his life. 

Shortly thereafter, the Vikings kick the winning field goal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T.J. Rubley overrules Coach Mike Holmgren&#8217;s command to go for a QB sneak on 3rd &amp; 1 at Minnesota in 1995 and opts for a pass play. </p>
<p>A lineman attempts to call a time out, but the ball is snapped anyway and Rubley flings an interception while running for his life. </p>
<p>Shortly thereafter, the Vikings kick the winning field goal.</p>
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		<title>By: madnova</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[madnova]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 06:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And now I&#039;m the moron for completely disregarding the &quot;since 1987&quot; part.

Awesome on me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now I&#8217;m the moron for completely disregarding the &#8220;since 1987&#8243; part.</p>
<p>Awesome on me.</p>
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		<title>By: madnova</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[madnova]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 06:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Odd that the vast majority of the &quot;worst&quot; moments took place over a 19 year stretch that included a whopping two losing seasons. And losing the Super Bowl? As a worst moment?At least they got there.


The worst moment in Packers history is probably the Jon Hadl trade. Two first round picks, a second round pick, and two 3rd round picks for a 34 year old QB that gave them 9 touchdowns and 29 interceptions over 2 seasons. 

Beyond the crappy quarterback play the picks lost probably set the team back a decade.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odd that the vast majority of the &#8220;worst&#8221; moments took place over a 19 year stretch that included a whopping two losing seasons. And losing the Super Bowl? As a worst moment?At least they got there.</p>
<p>The worst moment in Packers history is probably the Jon Hadl trade. Two first round picks, a second round pick, and two 3rd round picks for a 34 year old QB that gave them 9 touchdowns and 29 interceptions over 2 seasons. </p>
<p>Beyond the crappy quarterback play the picks lost probably set the team back a decade.</p>
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		<title>By: goupackers</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[goupackers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 05:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s one that stung me as a 17-year old who had only witnessed one playoff season in his life (the strike-shortened 1982 season).

The 1989 Packers, led by Majkowski and Sharpe, had won 5 of 6 -- including a win at the eventual Super Bowl champion San Francisco 49ers -- and were 8-5 heading into a home game against the Kansas City Chiefs.

Barry Word and Christian Okoye barreled over the Pack 21-3, and despite finishing 10-6, the Packers just missed the playoffs.  Losing that game -- especially since they only won 10 games during the next two seasons -- felt like a huge opportunity wasted for the most exciting Packers team between 1972 and 1992.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s one that stung me as a 17-year old who had only witnessed one playoff season in his life (the strike-shortened 1982 season).</p>
<p>The 1989 Packers, led by Majkowski and Sharpe, had won 5 of 6 &#8212; including a win at the eventual Super Bowl champion San Francisco 49ers &#8212; and were 8-5 heading into a home game against the Kansas City Chiefs.</p>
<p>Barry Word and Christian Okoye barreled over the Pack 21-3, and despite finishing 10-6, the Packers just missed the playoffs.  Losing that game &#8212; especially since they only won 10 games during the next two seasons &#8212; felt like a huge opportunity wasted for the most exciting Packers team between 1972 and 1992.</p>
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		<title>By: packfaninpackland</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[packfaninpackland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 05:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To: ieatchickens  

First off, moron, on the last pass by Favre to Chmura, it was 4th and six, NOT 4th and one.

Second, the ball did NOT bounce a foot in front of Chewie show. It was low, plus Chmura tripped over his feet reaching down for it, but Mobley broke up the pass anyway, so, nice &quot;memory&quot; there chickenman !  Good grief.  Watch the replay on the NFL Network if your memory is THAT fuzzy.

Third, even using your &quot;Favre had 5 yards to run in front of him on the play&quot; analogy, that wouldn&#039;t have gotten us the first down anyway with it being 4th and six. Not to mention there was only 32 seconds left at the beginning of that 4th down play, and the Packers had no time outs left (due to the injury to Brooks with less than 2 minutes to play), so, even with Favre dropping back to pass on that play, then scrambling, and even if he had scrambled and gotten the first down, by the time the players had all unpiled, and then all gotten back into formation and set, and Favre spiked the ball, there likely would have only been 6-7 seconds left to play. Time for one desperation pass into the end zone.  

The reason Favre &quot;was never called out on this one&quot; is because you are the only one that doesn&#039;t remember it as being 4th and six. Again, go watch a replay.  Can you imagine if he had (by your reasoning) only gotten 5 yards on that play, with it being 4th and six ???? Clowns like you would be ripping him for that too.

You forget the dropped interception by Sharper. The fumbled kickoff return by Freeman. Holmgren forgetting what down it was, etc.  All in the second half alone.  Plenty of blame to go around in that game.  

As for the 6 int&#039;s vs. the Rams, FOUR of them bounced off of recievers hands and on another Billy Schroeder ran the wrong route. So, again, go look at a replay of the game.

I realize you don&#039;t like Favre, and that&#039;s your right, but don&#039;t make up crap.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To: ieatchickens  </p>
<p>First off, moron, on the last pass by Favre to Chmura, it was 4th and six, NOT 4th and one.</p>
<p>Second, the ball did NOT bounce a foot in front of Chewie show. It was low, plus Chmura tripped over his feet reaching down for it, but Mobley broke up the pass anyway, so, nice &#8220;memory&#8221; there chickenman !  Good grief.  Watch the replay on the NFL Network if your memory is THAT fuzzy.</p>
<p>Third, even using your &#8220;Favre had 5 yards to run in front of him on the play&#8221; analogy, that wouldn&#8217;t have gotten us the first down anyway with it being 4th and six. Not to mention there was only 32 seconds left at the beginning of that 4th down play, and the Packers had no time outs left (due to the injury to Brooks with less than 2 minutes to play), so, even with Favre dropping back to pass on that play, then scrambling, and even if he had scrambled and gotten the first down, by the time the players had all unpiled, and then all gotten back into formation and set, and Favre spiked the ball, there likely would have only been 6-7 seconds left to play. Time for one desperation pass into the end zone.  </p>
<p>The reason Favre &#8220;was never called out on this one&#8221; is because you are the only one that doesn&#8217;t remember it as being 4th and six. Again, go watch a replay.  Can you imagine if he had (by your reasoning) only gotten 5 yards on that play, with it being 4th and six ???? Clowns like you would be ripping him for that too.</p>
<p>You forget the dropped interception by Sharper. The fumbled kickoff return by Freeman. Holmgren forgetting what down it was, etc.  All in the second half alone.  Plenty of blame to go around in that game.  </p>
<p>As for the 6 int&#8217;s vs. the Rams, FOUR of them bounced off of recievers hands and on another Billy Schroeder ran the wrong route. So, again, go look at a replay of the game.</p>
<p>I realize you don&#8217;t like Favre, and that&#8217;s your right, but don&#8217;t make up crap.</p>
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		<title>By: qoojo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[qoojo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 05:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mine was watching Favre throw away every season in the playoffs after Homgren left, then having to listen to all the idiots tell me what a gift he was. I was elated the day he retired, and then traded. I knew they would never win another Superbowl with him at QB.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mine was watching Favre throw away every season in the playoffs after Homgren left, then having to listen to all the idiots tell me what a gift he was. I was elated the day he retired, and then traded. I knew they would never win another Superbowl with him at QB.</p>
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		<title>By: The Prophet</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Prophet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 05:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1.  4th and 26  
2. Aaron Rodgers ignoring cancer patient&#039;s autograph request
3. Nick Collins cheap shot blind helmet hit on Dallas Cowboys.
4. Aaron Rodgers&#039; brother&#039;s post SB speech that Favre didn&#039;t win SB MVP
5. Packers excluding injured players from SB team photo
6. Packers bribing Favre with $20m to retire
7. Fans booing Brett Favre at Lambeau
8. Fans accusing Reggie White of misusing funds for church burning]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.  4th and 26<br />
2. Aaron Rodgers ignoring cancer patient&#8217;s autograph request<br />
3. Nick Collins cheap shot blind helmet hit on Dallas Cowboys.<br />
4. Aaron Rodgers&#8217; brother&#8217;s post SB speech that Favre didn&#8217;t win SB MVP<br />
5. Packers excluding injured players from SB team photo<br />
6. Packers bribing Favre with $20m to retire<br />
7. Fans booing Brett Favre at Lambeau<br />
8. Fans accusing Reggie White of misusing funds for church burning</p>
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		<title>By: goombar2</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/23/worst-moments-since-last-work-stoppage-focuses-on-wisconsin/#comment-1076194</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[goombar2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 04:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The lowest of the low during that time period was that Giants championship game.  Favre looked like he didn&#039;t want to be there and the boneheaded INT.  I knew after that throw he was gone and things were gonna get dirty.

The highest...  Probably the last Super Bowl.  It reaffirmed we did things the right way and that teams win, not individuals.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lowest of the low during that time period was that Giants championship game.  Favre looked like he didn&#8217;t want to be there and the boneheaded INT.  I knew after that throw he was gone and things were gonna get dirty.</p>
<p>The highest&#8230;  Probably the last Super Bowl.  It reaffirmed we did things the right way and that teams win, not individuals.</p>
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		<title>By: ruvelligwebuike</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/23/worst-moments-since-last-work-stoppage-focuses-on-wisconsin/#comment-1076184</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ruvelligwebuike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 04:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Favre&#039;s dreadful performances in the playoffs will never go away, but I&#039;ll tell you this and it will never go away. To all the Niner fans out there...

RICE FUMBLED!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Favre&#8217;s dreadful performances in the playoffs will never go away, but I&#8217;ll tell you this and it will never go away. To all the Niner fans out there&#8230;</p>
<p>RICE FUMBLED!</p>
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		<title>By: dcz3</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dcz3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 04:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TJ Rubley&#039;s Audible at Minnesota in 95!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TJ Rubley&#8217;s Audible at Minnesota in 95!</p>
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		<title>By: techvet</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[techvet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 04:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Besides the good suggestions, there&#039;s also the T.J. Rubley game in the Rollerdome.  

4th and 26 as well as Favre&#039;s pass to the Giants in OT prevented us both times from going to the Super Bowl.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides the good suggestions, there&#8217;s also the T.J. Rubley game in the Rollerdome.  </p>
<p>4th and 26 as well as Favre&#8217;s pass to the Giants in OT prevented us both times from going to the Super Bowl.</p>
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		<title>By: howellt50</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/23/worst-moments-since-last-work-stoppage-focuses-on-wisconsin/#comment-1076178</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[howellt50]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 04:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you remeber when the our packers played the vikings in the 2005 wild card game and crushed us? Remember when Favre signed with them to get back at them hahaha. Well thats my theory.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you remeber when the our packers played the vikings in the 2005 wild card game and crushed us? Remember when Favre signed with them to get back at them hahaha. Well thats my theory.</p>
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		<title>By: jimmysee</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/23/worst-moments-since-last-work-stoppage-focuses-on-wisconsin/#comment-1076174</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimmysee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 04:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[4th &amp; 26 ...

... and all those picks in that playoff game against the Rams.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4th &amp; 26 &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; and all those picks in that playoff game against the Rams.</p>
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		<title>By: mskmadison</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mskmadison]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 04:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1. The 1980s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. The 1980s.</p>
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		<title>By: smoothjimmyapollo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[smoothjimmyapollo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 04:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;2) Favre throwing an incomplete pass on 4th and 1 in Super Bowl XXXII. The ball hit the ground a foot shy of Chmura’s shoe with less than a minute to play with the Packers down by 7. Favre had 5 yards to run in front of him on the play. (He was never called out on this one)&quot;
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMUW2GipY0g

I like taking shots at Favre as much as the next guy, but it was 4th and 6 and Favre had no where to run as the Broncos blitz was coming.  As far as the QB goes, this was nowhere near the Favre failure of the 07 NFC Championship.  I&#039;ve heard Chmura say in interviews that the problem was the playcall since Holmgren called something that hadn&#039;t been used in a game all season and hadn&#039;t been practiced since the preseason.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;2) Favre throwing an incomplete pass on 4th and 1 in Super Bowl XXXII. The ball hit the ground a foot shy of Chmura’s shoe with less than a minute to play with the Packers down by 7. Favre had 5 yards to run in front of him on the play. (He was never called out on this one)&#8221;<br />
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<p>I like taking shots at Favre as much as the next guy, but it was 4th and 6 and Favre had no where to run as the Broncos blitz was coming.  As far as the QB goes, this was nowhere near the Favre failure of the 07 NFC Championship.  I&#8217;ve heard Chmura say in interviews that the problem was the playcall since Holmgren called something that hadn&#8217;t been used in a game all season and hadn&#8217;t been practiced since the preseason.</p>
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		<title>By: brandon54235</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brandon54235]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 03:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When the media came to the Don Majkowski&#039;s hotel room and him and Brad Spakowitz came to the door in their underwear!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the media came to the Don Majkowski&#8217;s hotel room and him and Brad Spakowitz came to the door in their underwear!</p>
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