2007 Postseason:
61.3 PCT Completion, 854 Yards, 6 TD, 1 INT, QB RAT 95.7

2011 Postseason:
65 PCT Completion, 1219 Yards, 9 TD, 1 INT, QB RAT 103.3

Nick Collins is ranked below ERIC BERRY, ANTREL ROLLE, and adrian wilson….wilson maybe, but not Berry and Rolle.

And Tramon Williams ain’t even on the list, even thou he has more tackles/interceptions/sacks last season than Revis.

Your name fits well as it is painfully obvious you lack the mental capacity to comprehend my argument. I in no way suggested you discount the turnovers, i simply suggested you look at the stats outside of them. When you follow this logic, you see if his turnovers were 10 or so he would be a top 10 player in the league. Since he has them, and you do have to count them, you see he is still a good qb and def a top 100 player in the league. Please read and think before commenting, seriously, if I really said don’t count the picks hed be one of the best qbs to ever play. I clearly was not trying to make that argument melon head.

Once again dude, if you’d care to put your money where your mouth is, I’ll give odds. Otherwise, it’s just “fanboy” trash talk. So which is it? Substance or hot air? I’ve got a good idea which one. Enjoy your unicorn.

Raidermick’s answer: We are amazing. Any NFL thread, is a Raider thread. The Raiders ARE the NFL.

1bigtex…said
“Oakland is primed for a 3 out of 5 Super Bowl run”

Raidermick’s answer: I know, glad to see you finally understanding that. However, I said it first… LOL!!!

I know its hard for any of you to NOT think of the Raiders…We are truly in everyone’s head!!!

After all, we are the “Team of the Decades”

Late…

I cant count the time Eli has brought the team back or scored the go ahead only the have the defense give the game away. With the exception of the Superbowl year when the defense actually showed up.

Yes Eli tried to do to much sometimes, but other times that’s how they have overcome a lead and gotten back into the game.

Last year was a bit freakish. A lot of his interceptions came of perfectly catchable passes that got tipped by receivers, often straight into the arms of defenders.

I’d be quite happy to have him sign with the Redskins. Mind you, with quarterback play we’ve had to put up with in the past decade really just about anyone would look like a significant improvment.

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Of course you don’t see those guys throwing 49 INTs over their last three seasons, either.

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Why the F would you grant him a waiver for 18 INTs? And the guy had 25 INTs, not 15! Would you like to add a few TD passes in there as well?

A few major statistical categories that shEli is NOT in the top 5:

Completion percentage
Average per attempt
TD/INT ratio

But yeah he’s top 5 if you don’t count all those INTs.

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Me too. As a backup.

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What does that have to do with a list of the top 100 current players? Wouldn’t you rather have three Super Bowl championships instead of just one? Yes? Then maybe Troy Aikman should be on the top 100 list too.

While you attempt to win this debate with your stats and luck theories, allow some clarity to enter your mind. Eli Manning has not had a losing season since Tiki Barber and Kurt Warner were on the team. He has not missed one start, he barely missed a snap.

In his past playoff season he had his best wr shoot himself in the leg right before the playoffs coming in as a one seed.

The next two years he played with no starting wr with over two years experience in the league, and lost one or two of those guys to injury in practically every game the entire two seasons. He also lost three starting offensive linemen and had a rb who led the league in fumbles last season.

He also plays in a windy stadium where no qb in history has ever led the league statistically. He was still top five in yards, completions, and touchdowns. He still put together wiinning seasons.

In his anomaly season, he led his team to three straight road wins against a division winner, a one seed, a two seed, and ultimately the best team ever prior to the game. He had 11 road wins that season. Now yes, you can get lucky sometimes and every super bowl winner will tell you how they all got lucky along the way, but it is not luck when you win 11 road games. When you beat Romo in Dallas as a one seed in the third matchup with them of the season. When you outplay Brett Favre at Lambeau in 0 degree weather (in one of his most successful seasons ever) and than lead your team to a super bowl by outplaying Tom Brady in the best statistical offensive season ever performed in history. That is more than luck. An anomaly is a one time freak incident, like the tyree play. 11 road wins and four straight against the best qbs and teams in the league is much more than an anomaly.

You should be ashamed to call yourself a giants fan, In fact I officially renounce your fandom to big blue. You are now serving a one week ban. Gather your thoughts, think rationally, and return with some logical arguments aligned with fact and your allegiance and we will consider accepting you back to the family.

Eli Manning is better than schaub, flacco, matt ryan, Tony romo, donovan mcnabb, jay cutter, and the rest of the league. I put Peyton, brees, rivers, Rothlesberger, Brady, Vick, and Rodgers ahead of him. You can debate Flacco and Ryan, but as of right now neither can be placed ahead of Eli. That puts Eli at 8 in my book, 10 at the absolute worst in any logical fans brains. Therefore he is a top 100 player. I’d say probably somewhere around 70-80.

For anyone to argue Sanchez, Friedman, Bradford, stafford, or other promising young starters are judging based on future possibility, not current achievements. None of those guys have consistently done anything anywhere close to what Eli has over the last 3 seasons.

Eli gets a bad wrap because he is judged against his brother. Knocked for his quiet demeanor and lack of outspoken leadership as it is perceived by people outside of the giants locker room. If Eli cuts down his turnovers he is a top 5 qb in the league. Seriously, change the int mark to 7 instead of 15 and look at the stats. You will see a top 5 qb in every meaningful statistical category. Im not saying he deserves to be regarded as elite, because he doesn’t. He’s never been elite. He has been better then 22-24 of the other starters in the league right now.

Donovan McNabb was number 100 on the list. Eli is better then McNabb. McNabb may not even start for a team next year.

Eli Has thrown for 80 TDs and over 11,000 yards.

Passer ratings the Past three seasons: 86, 93 and 85 – not too bad.

He also never misses a start. Can;t say the same for Schaub, McNabb, Vick, Romo and some others.

Eli is better than some of the QBs in this list. He is not a Super-star, but he is a good QB. This is a snub.

But whatever…

I seriously question the sanity of some of my fellow Giants fans…

I leave the fans of small market teams that win nothing to have fun with player rankings… I’ll take rings instead.

Wow, some how you viewed this as a thread about the Raiders. Amazing. While I agree that Eli is not a top 100 NFL player or a top 10 QB, he is a great deal better than what the Raiders are throwing out there at QB. If you would care to put some money down on that idiotic 3 Super Bowl wins in the next 5 years prediction, I would be glad to offer odds. The Raiders are almost 30 years removed from their last Super Bowl victory and just last year broke their NFL record double digit losing streak, and yet you’re trying to tell us that Oakland is primed for a 3 out of 5 Super Bowl run with a QB who has almost no pocket presence what so ever and was an outright bust in Washington? Yeah! Right!!! I suppose you ride a glitter-covered rainbow unicorn to work also. Seems about as plausible as your football predictions.

P.S. That great Giants defense averaged giving up 19.5 points a game during the 2007 playoffs. Now use those stats!

The Giants haven’t won a playoff game since. Eli’s playoff record was 0-3 before the 2008 anomaly, and it’s been 0-1 since with two seasons not even making the playoffs.

Eli has been one of, if not the most overrated QB’s in the league for some time now. He’s not elite, he never was elite, and he never will be elite. He’s literally the luckiest QB to ever play the game. That pass to Tyree was far more luck than skill, and had his pass thrown directly to a Patriots player (the play before the Tyree catch) been intercepted… I dare say Eli wouldn’t even be the Giants QB now).

Is any moron going to say here that they’d take Jay Cutler over Eli Manning today?
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typicaleaglesfan says:
Eli was a little better than mediocre four years ago. If mcnabb had the talent around him Eli did the giants would’ve had multiple rings.

In 2004, McNabb HAD that kind of team, and he wound up puking on the field as he got beat in his only Super Bowl appearance.

“Eli is only highly regarded because of his brothers legacy.”

You clearly didn’t see what kind of quarterback this kid was in 2007. Donovan McNabb never showed so much talent or guts in his entire career.

Not ONCE..

Funny career stats show that McNabb has better numbers, a better winning percentage, better td to int ratio, qb rating and a far better playoff record, and he did mess up the superbowl up by getting sick, Eli was the beneficiary of the luckiest catch of all time and a manster defense that was hot…..

The fact is Eli is nothing more than an average qb…… I’d take Cutler over him any day of the week. The best part is the giants haven’t beaten the Eagles since Plaxico went to jail (his curent WR’s aren’t tall enough to make him look good when he over throws them). If the season ever starts Eli will have another mediocre season that goes no where because he is not a top 20 qb in this leauge. Maybe in 2007 he was but not any more. McNabb if given the chance will play well as he has his entire career as long as Shanahan isn’t involved. I fell bad for 5 getting shipped to DC with the joke of a franchise they are.

Eli beat Romo IN Dallas, Favre IN Green Bay, and led a game winning drive in the super bowl to beat an undefeated team. That is way different than guys like Dilfer and Brad Johnson. He isn’t the best but he is certainly better than guys like McNabb and Flacco. The only problem with Eli is his inconsistency. If he plays all the time like he did in 07 playoffs and 08 reg season and in spots last season, this isn’t an argument.

Most people just don’t want to give him credit for anything because of who he is, rather than what he has done. If he was Eli Smith this would be a different discussion.

Donovan McNabb getting on this list despite being benched twice last year in favor of John Beck and Rex Grossman is beyond laughable.

He is done as a legitimate starting QB…..the Shanahan’s made a mockery out of him.