We all suffer except the owners that made sure they would get paid (until the judge figured that out).

The owners still think the players will cave in when the games are lost.

I think the real endgame will come when the tv networks get pissed and force a settlement they are the ones paying the money and so they call the shots

So … if the coaches and players are in this together, can they talk to one another now?

I’m still not sure on this one. No single team could stand on its own without at least some of the others. Could Jerry Jones run a successful business if none of the other teams exist? While they want each other to fail on the field, they NEED each other to succeed as a business. Sure, some could fail and you bring others in, but it is impossible for a team to exist as a single business. And without the stability that the united NFL brings any success would be much less…you can’t build a fan base if teams are constantly folding, moving, being created, etc. Just a thought, don’t know how this fits with laws and legal nonsense.

The players are no longer a union. They gave up collective bargaining rights.

Instead of making CBA proposals to a union that no longer exists, all the owners have to do is lift the lockout and implement whatever rules they choose so long as they do not violate labor and anti trust laws.

The collective bargaining eggs have been scrambled.

I read the amicus brief in support of the National Football League Coaches Association. I question whether the arguments contained therein are sufficient to cause Circuit Judges Colloton and Benton to reach a different final determination re: whether the lower court had jurisdiction to enjoin the League’s lockout. While I think the balance of the equities does tilt in favor of the players, I’m not convinced—at this juncture, at least—that it’s sufficient to warrant a grant of injunctive relief. And finally, I think the “public interest” favors labor peace, even above the timely start of the 2011 NFL season. Only labor peace—memorialized by a new CBA—will ensure continuous play for years to come.

Fans should follow the latest trend in American business and outsource all their purchases to China, they make good stuff and it cuts out about $100 per shirt and at least the supplier is not bending you over the table and NOT using even a swipe of vaseline!!!

They’re (supposedly) considering a union, because major decisions regarding their employment are being made, and they feel they deserve a seat at the table. The Wagner Act ensures them the right to do so.

@tommynatorii

I’m with you. As fans, the only way we’re heard is through our wallets. I’ve already cancelled RedZone (Sunday Ticket isn’t available through my provider) and Sports Dish Package.

oh come ON already. i’m sick of people whining like they’re being harmed in all this. you CHOOSE to pay money to the NFL. it’s optional. if you choose to invest your money in something that could potentially get locked out, then you understand and accept this and you’re putting money into it anyway. it’s MAY, we’re not even close to preseason let alone regular season.

if you want to make your voice heard, stop giving them money. otherwise, stop complaining. money says more than words ever could to 32 billionaires, 32 millionaire coaches, and 1800 players who generally have at least 6 figure bank accounts/salaries.

Quit crying like babies about this. You’re career isn’t affected by this, just some entertainment. No one is forcing you to spend money going to games and watching them on TV is free. Also, no matter what people say about their opinions toward the NFL changing during the lockout, they will forget all about it as soon as it’s over and come running back with their wallets open. There may very well be no season, the owners, it seems, are using the George W Bush playbook of being so afraid of looking bad publicly that they stick to a losing strategy rather than compromising and thus admitting defeat. It’s no coincidence that GW himself is a former team owner.

Then stop paying for all this. That’s the only voice they will hear, cha-ching. The NFL doesn’t care about you, the NFLPA doesn’t care about you, you’re just a means to an end, a butt in a seat, a potential jersey sale, a hot dog and beer, you’re just a number.

Without you this all comes crashing down but you’re so fragmented that you can’t effectively speak loud enough. Even now when you, me and all the other fans are disrespected by both sides, we still frequent sites like this to get what little tidbits they’ll throw to us, we’re sheep and they’re counting on it. We keep the machine running because we’re interested. We’re hooked and they know it and as such we’ll never effectively speak loud enough to be heard.

Poor schleps, yep, everyone of us here to be sure and what’s worse, we’re signing up for it. We’re poor schleps of our own free will.

The smart teams didn’t commit to paying these guys full pay.

Imagine, a coach that assumed he was going to get paid, and now gets thrown under the bus by (gulp)lawyers.

I wonder if there was a vote taken.
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No, they’ve been thrown under the bus by the owners. The lockout may have made the problem worse, but coaches have been getting the shaft for a while now. Yes, the head coaches and certain high-profile coordinators/assistants have been well taken care of, but the rest (the vast majority of coaches in the league) have seen their pensions and benefits slashed over the recent years…long before any threat of a lockout. All of this in return for the godawful hours that they have to put in, the repeated moving of them and their families, and the knowledge that a poor decision by the head coach or front office could lead to a poor season that leaves them unemployed. For those of you who say they chose this life, no kidding, but they should at least be treated well by the teams that put them through all this hardship.

So they didnt over play there hand they realized that 1 day every single coach will have to be the new guy in town once again and they are supporting the guys who are new this year and will get hurt the most by the lockout so in the future they too will be protected . Its the right and smart thing to do.

What I want to know is what good deeds did Dr. Jesus (Tebow), do today (beside the usual, like attending boy scout meetings, driving shut-ins to/from the grocery store and helping little old ladies cross the street at busy intersections)????

Why hasn’t Dr. Jesus (Tebow), helping out the red cross in tornado ravaged Joplin, MO? Did he actually run out of bibles to pass out or something?