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St. Paul’s mayor unveils plan to keep Vikings in Minneapolis

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When it comes to the Vikings Stadium, the Twin Cities suddenly are behaving as if they’re conjoined.

On Wednesday, St. Paul Mayor Chris Coleman introduced a wide-ranging plan that would fund a Vikings Stadium that would be built in Minneapolis, not Arden Hills.  Per the Minneapolis Star Tribune, Coleman suggests a statewide tax of two cents per alcoholic drink, a 0.25-percent St. Paul sales tax, and a local option sales tax extension in Minneapolis.

While the Vikings would remain in Minneapolis, the Timberwolves would move from the Target Center in Minneapolis to a retrofitted Xcel Energy Center in St. Paul.

As to the prospect of building a new Vikings Stadium in Arden Hills, Coleman said that plan doesn’t make sense.

There’s a minor hole in Coleman’s plan.  Actually, two minor holes.  Actually, two major holes.

The Vikings and the Timberwolves aren’t interested.

“We appreciate Mayor Coleman’s thoughts regarding a stadium solution, but we are entirely focused on our partnership with Ramsey County,” Vikings V.P. of public affairs and stadium development Lester Bagley said in a response posted on the team’s website.  “The Arden Hills plan offers the best site for the State, the team and our fans.  We have done what State leaders asked us to do by bringing forward an ideal site, a workable finance plan and significant team and local contributions.  Our work with State leaders on stadium legislation is ongoing as part of the Special Session discussions.”

Coleman’s opposition to Arden Hills complicates the Arden Hills project because St. Paul, like Arden Hills, is located in Ramsey County.  The current proposal to which the team and the county but not the state have agreed calls for a county-wide sales tax, which will impose a burden on St. Paul with no direct benefit.

And so an already complex situation has become even more complicated, and our bad feeling about the Vikings’ long-term future in Minnesota has gotten a little bit worse.

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70 Responses to “St. Paul’s mayor unveils plan to keep Vikings in Minneapolis”
  1. txchief says: May 26, 2011 1:44 PM

    Typical politician turd.

  2. carlgerbschmidt says: May 26, 2011 1:47 PM

    I think the movie Thor is pretty bad. Mostly about Vikings. Dumb. Only Superhero to lose 4 straight armageddons.

  3. clintonportisheadd says: May 26, 2011 1:47 PM

    Lets review shall we?

    This politician proposes to raise taxes on poor folks during one of the toughest economic times in history to subsidize a billionaire’s business.

    Only in America!!

  4. mndudeness says: May 26, 2011 1:47 PM

    It amazes me how St Paul Mayor Coleman and Minneapolis Mayor Rybak can come forward with plans for a new Vikings stadium and NOT EVEN INCLUDE THE VIKINGS IN FORMING THE PROPOSAL!!!

    Probably not the best method to make it work, especially when you bring the plan forward in the 11th hour and 59th minute!

  5. Justin says: May 26, 2011 1:48 PM

    Yeah, this is really what we need right now more plans to water down a chance of getting a new stadium. I do like the effort but where was this plan before the Arden Hills deal? Time to call the special session Dayton and get this resolved. (Click my name and check out my MN sports blog or google minnesporta)

  6. hail2tharedskins says: May 26, 2011 1:50 PM

    How can the St.Paul mayor make a proposal for Minneapolis? Wouldn’t that be something that the mayor of Minneapolis??? I think everybody in this situation is providing political cover for themselves when nothing gets done, but I really don’t see anybody on any side coming forward with any legitimate proposals. And when I say legitimate, I mean legitimate from all sides not just to one party, since any deal is going to require approval from the state and local govt, the team, and possibly even the taxpayers.

  7. 28purple4mvp says: May 26, 2011 1:50 PM

    Here’s another non-story-got to love the lockout-

  8. swede700 says: May 26, 2011 1:53 PM

    Unfortunately, he appears to be going down the road like that other former mayor of St. Paul with the same last name…

  9. sterling7 says: May 26, 2011 1:54 PM

    I live in St. Paul, Chris Coleman is a bigger idiot than even I thought he was, how did he get elected anyway? 1) Nobody gives a rat’s ass about the Timberpuppies, 2) Chris Coleman couldn’t sell water to anyone dying of thirst in a burning desert and 3) The Wilf’s found the perfect place to build the stadium, only a complete ass clown would want the stadium in downtown Minneapolis, Minneapolis dragged their feet for the last 15 years when they knew they built an embarrassing piece of crap in the first place. Keep the Twins and their small ball, keep the Timberpuppies-Minneapolis doesn’t deserve the Vikings-we (Ramsey County) will get it done in spite of Miss Chris (Coleman)!

  10. vadog says: May 26, 2011 1:55 PM

    I like the funding options Mayor Coleman presents, however, the Vikings have reached an agreement with Ramsey County regarding the Arden Hills site. Mayor Coleman could have presented his ideas anytime during the last 5 years!! His efforts now are too little, too late.

    I am troubled that all the maneuvering being done by Minneapolis and St. Paul will only go to confuse the state legislature (it doesn’t take much to confuse politicians) and they will continue to drag the process out so long that the Vikings will already be in trucks in Colorado on their way to Los Angeles!

  11. schemefactory says: May 26, 2011 1:56 PM

    at the very least, politicians and business owners do support the players: http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?w=1ao2i&storyId=6585253&i=FB

  12. capslockkey says: May 26, 2011 1:56 PM

    What’s the most surprising to me, is their mayor is an actual politician. I was figuring it’d be someone like Rowdy Roddy Piper or Kevin Nealon based on past history.

  13. kevpft says: May 26, 2011 1:58 PM

    I know the Metrodome needs repairs, but apart from that, where’s all this urgency coming from? Really, it’s only a concern for the billionaires. Fix the stadium, play another season or two there, take the time needed to figure this out. Everything will work out fine. The team’s making money, right? This fake urgency is the engine for so much unnecessary waste and spending.

  14. krow101 says: May 26, 2011 1:59 PM

    As long as they don’t spend it on hungry children or medical care for the poor. I’m sure Zygi Wilf will use it wisely. Maybe another summer home. Or perhaps a Bentley.

    Thanks peasants… kneel, you may now kiss the ring.

  15. thephantomstranger says: May 26, 2011 2:07 PM

    So you can’t use MF’s last name in a post? Okay, try this: M**e F**r*o’s pessimism is unfounded. This deal is going to get done. The powers that be are trying to come up with a solution and not all of the suggestions are going to be good. Watch and learn.

  16. duffer58 says: May 26, 2011 2:08 PM

    Did he talk to Favre?

  17. dboskie says: May 26, 2011 2:08 PM

    First – I am in favor of the state helping the Vikings in getting a stadium. However, this Lester Bagley character is getting on my nerves. This whole deal where the Vikings are dictating where this stadium is going to go is flat out wrong. How do the owners get to dictate where the stadium is going to go when the taxpayers are flipping for most of the bill. The Toilet Dome sight is where this stadium should be built. On top of that if the Vikes only want to put up the 400 million plus operating costs I can live with that also. But any cost runovers (and I guarantee those will occur) need to be covered by the team. If the team wants it in Arden Hills, then pony up over 50% of the cost and you can decide. Otherwise shut the H up.

  18. thephantomstranger says: May 26, 2011 2:09 PM

    If you put a 2-cent tax on alcoholic drinks in Wisconsin, you could build a stadium for every homeless person in Milwaukee.

  19. prior0knowledge says: May 26, 2011 2:11 PM

    For those thinking that the government should not be paying a business’ costs: This happens all the time as incentives for large businesses to locate/relocate/stay. Promising free infrastructure improvements are very common. (For example, You build the factory, we will build the roads, rails, utilities and parking lots.) Although direct tax increases to fund the company’s structures are rare, reduced local/state taxes for many years (which accomplishes the same thing) are also common.

    Then there is the whole “quality of life” issue. Losing the Vikings would be a huge blow to Minnesota life and prestige.

  20. cliverush says: May 26, 2011 2:11 PM

    Private money for the stadium, public money for infrastructure gets the deal done. A Public Authority running the stadium with tax money will always drain money from the taxpayers. These legislators are having a tough time now with tight money. Giving them more for this special interest project is not a good idea. Ziggy and the boys need to pony up 100% for the stadium and land.

  21. denverhighrize says: May 26, 2011 2:13 PM

    Minnesota sucks. On a side note, I wonder how much weight Albert Haynesworth has gained this off-season

  22. bradshawlives says: May 26, 2011 2:17 PM

    They should’ve been debating this 2 or 3 years ago.

  23. carlgerbschmidt says: May 26, 2011 2:19 PM

    thephantomstranger says:
    May 26, 2011 2:09 PM
    If you put a 2-cent tax on alcoholic drinks in Wisconsin, you could build a stadium for every homeless person in Milwaukee.

    _______

    Nice. Use somebody who’s life is in terribly tragic circumstances as part of your bit. Typical vikes fan. YOu really are the lowest of the low, how did you ever get an NFL franchise in the first place? Oh, that’s right, you don’t really have one.

  24. thekingdave says: May 26, 2011 2:21 PM

    Justin, we get it, you have a blog.

  25. goombar2 says: May 26, 2011 2:25 PM

    If viking fans could think they’d see how big this story actually is and they’d be calling me a prophet.

    The closest of the twin cities to Arden Hills is St. Paul and they don’t want? Doesn’t that fact alone seem interesting? But yet, here are the vikings insisting upon that very site? Even more interesting… Why do you suppose that is? Why did the vikes have a news conference about the Arden Hills site, when in reality, no politician has given any real support of it, and certainly not the ones that would have actually power in making it happen?

    Maybe it’ll take a fleet of Mayflower truck causing a traffic jam from Winter Park to make you guys see the answer… Eh, you’ll probably still be thinking Arden Hills would be a great place to hold a Super Bowl! Ha ha ha!

  26. ruvelligwebuike says: May 26, 2011 2:26 PM

    “Then there is the whole “quality of life” issue. Losing the Vikings would be a huge blow to Minnesota life and prestige.”
    —————

    The prestige of living in Minnesota???

  27. depotnator says: May 26, 2011 2:28 PM

    yawn….I don’t have a dog in this fight, but why wouldn’t MN residents want the stadium in the Twin Cities rather than the suburbs? Why would visiting fans want to visit anywhere other than the Twin Cities during a mostly frigid period? OK, maybe Bloomington for the Mall of America, but other than that…

  28. vikefan says: May 26, 2011 2:29 PM

    Vikings have already said they will take care of cost overruns

    This is just another dumb bitch politician throwing crap in the air saying it aint my fault if they leave cause i had an idea.

    Problem with these politicians is no one cared b4 arden hills and if you actually want it to be semi beleivable, you need to invite the guest of honor to the party & make sure they are on board aka Vikings and they are not. both Mnpls & St. P are pathetic ideas just blowing dust in the wind.

  29. dontcallmepete says: May 26, 2011 2:34 PM

    Let the owner build his own stadium. We’re closing schools but we’re going to put up another stadium? If you’re in favor of this you don’t pay taxes.

  30. Justin says: May 26, 2011 2:34 PM

    @depotnator
    The difference in distance between the 2 sites is about 10 miles or a 15 minute drive. Not that far away really.

  31. moochzilla says: May 26, 2011 2:37 PM

    And here come the giveaways!

  32. hobartbaker says: May 26, 2011 2:39 PM

    Coleman will apply for a UFL franchise for the city. To be named the “Vikings”.

  33. thephantomstranger says: May 26, 2011 2:46 PM

    The legislature told the Vikings to find a local partner and get back to them. They found Ramsey County and a site that allowed them to make more money than they could make in Minneapolis. Why are people finding a problem with this?

  34. thephantomstranger says: May 26, 2011 2:47 PM

    Racino. Get it done.

  35. mvp43 says: May 26, 2011 2:48 PM

    With any proposed statewide tax increase….doesn’t that need to go to referendum? That would take months and probably would not pass.

  36. carlgerbschmidt says: May 26, 2011 3:08 PM

    By the way, does anybody else see the irony in the mayor of St. Paul coming out with a proposal to KEEP the vikes out of his city, but to LURE the timberwolves TO his city? How bad does an NFL team have to be to be considered less desirable than the Timber-Chihuahuas?

  37. vadog says: May 26, 2011 3:16 PM

    Goombar…Once again, your anti-Viking bias is showing!!

    The Twin Cities have had since 2005, when the Wilf’s purchased the team and made known their intention to build a new stadium, to partner with the Vikings. They have shown NO willingness to plan a future with the Vikings, because they ASSUMED the Vikings would stay in Minneapolis. Well guess what, they found a site, that when developed and road improvements made will be ideal for fans, with plenty of parking for tailgating on game days!! Fans will love the site.

    Minneapolis and St. Paul had every chance to come up with a workable deal for the Vikings, but they chose not to and are now paying for their hubris and arrogance.

    Now, I have tried to explain this in away the even you and carlgerbschmidt should be able to understand…that is, if you actually graduated from High School!

  38. blaz0037 says: May 26, 2011 3:24 PM

    Arden Hills….Let’s get this done!

  39. johnnyb216 says: May 26, 2011 3:25 PM

    What will mike f do when his beloved vikings move to la?

  40. dboskie says: May 26, 2011 3:34 PM

    The legislature told the Vikings to find a local partner and get back to them. They found Ramsey County and a site that allowed them to make more money than they could make in Minneapolis. Why are people finding a problem with this?

    ————————————————–
    The problem is nobody still knows what the costs for doing this truly are at THAT sight. From a munitions standpoint who knows how much that is going to truly cost. I stated earlier the Vikes should cover any overages in cost. If the cleanup costs an additional 50 million is Zygie and Lester going to be cool with that along with any overruns with the stadium. PLEASE! Play in TCF stadium for 2 or 3 years. Bears did it during the Soldier field makeover. Buy a couple of the Star & Trib parking lots for the tailgaters and lets get this thing done.

  41. dragonfly99 says: May 26, 2011 3:35 PM

    Isn’t it strange the mayor of St. Paul wants the Vikings in Minneapolis and not in his city or one of it’s suburbs? That’s a pretty sad situation when a big city mayor is campaigning for the team not to locate there. Poor Vikings. LOL

  42. contra74 says: May 26, 2011 3:37 PM

    anyone know if jimysm1th is alive?

  43. santolonius says: May 26, 2011 3:43 PM

    i don’t know who will prevail, but one thing that jumps out at me is the notion that 2 cent per alcoholic drink tax might help pay for a stadium. that strikes me as not much of a tax burden. if i’m out drinking and have 3 martinis, i am buzzed as heck. but i’ve only been saddled with an extra 6 cents in taxes. i could live with that.

  44. 28purple4mvp says: May 26, 2011 3:45 PM

    JIMMY’S mom took her computer away from him and gave it to carl-jimmys life partner-

  45. bdickey33 says: May 26, 2011 3:58 PM

    Let’s see….. 1 guy putting up 400 million dollars to support a franchise and infastructure within your state, which is a state he doesn’t even live in. And every other person, putting up 2 cents for every drink and .25% sales tax so $50 for every $20,000.00 spent. And who thinks this is unfair? The people who put up the $50. Jeez… think about it people.

  46. ilovefoolsball says: May 26, 2011 3:58 PM

    When the Vikings move to Los Angeles will they still be in the NFC North or will they move to the NFC West and maybe Seattle or St Louis will move to the North since they’re more Northern than Los Angeles?
    It would be good for the Vikings to move to the NFC West as that’s a powder puff division. It would make their road to losing a 5th Superbowl a little easier.
    Topic for discussion.

  47. thephantomstranger says: May 26, 2011 4:01 PM

    Last I heard, Jimmy met up with dazdillinger in front of the cop shop by the metrodump. I don’t think we’ll be hearing from him again.

  48. minnesconsin says: May 26, 2011 4:08 PM

    ruvelligwebuike says:
    May 26, 2011 2:26 PM
    “Then there is the whole “quality of life” issue. Losing the Vikings would be a huge blow to Minnesota life and prestige.”
    —————

    The prestige of living in Minnesota???

    ————

    Yeah, I live here and “prestige” isn’t a word I typically associate with Minnesota OR the boys in purple.

  49. carlgerbschmidt says: May 26, 2011 4:14 PM

    28purple4mvp says:
    May 26, 2011 3:45 PM
    JIMMY’S mom took her computer away from him and gave it to carl-jimmys life partner
    _________

    Good- one- what/ do you have some sort of special need that we should know about- Or is it just some sort of self-loathing* that grew out of cheering for a team that hasn’t won Super Bowl in 50 years- and never will-

    *self-loathing means you hate yourself-

  50. cosanostra71 says: May 26, 2011 4:15 PM

    as a sports fan in los angeles gotta love this

  51. contra74 says: May 26, 2011 4:20 PM

    thephantomstranger says:
    May 26, 2011 4:01 PM
    Last I heard, Jimmy met up with dazdillinger in front of the cop shop by the metrodump. I don’t think we’ll be hearing from him again.
    ————-
    That or Pervy got to him.

    Thanks Pervy.

  52. thephantomstranger says: May 26, 2011 4:21 PM

    dboskie says:
    May 26, 2011 3:34 PM
    The legislature told the Vikings to find a local partner and get back to them. They found Ramsey County and a site that allowed them to make more money than they could make in Minneapolis. Why are people finding a problem with this?

    ————————————————–
    The problem is nobody still knows what the costs for doing this truly are at THAT sight. From a munitions standpoint who knows how much that is going to truly cost. I stated earlier the Vikes should cover any overages in cost. If the cleanup costs an additional 50 million is Zygie and Lester going to be cool with that along with any overruns with the stadium. PLEASE! Play in TCF stadium for 2 or 3 years. Bears did it during the Soldier field makeover. Buy a couple of the Star & Trib parking lots for the tailgaters and lets get this thing done.
    __________________

    Is there a chance that the Ramsey County officials studied this before they made the deal? I think they have a pretty good idea what it’s going to cost. Vikes have already said they’ll pay for cost overruns anyway.

  53. stellarperformance says: May 26, 2011 4:23 PM

    A new stadium should be shoe-horned into downtown Minneapolis, and be a book-end to the very fine baseball stadium. The public transportation is already in place. The nearby service industries are already in place. The infrastruture is already in place. The only reason the Vikings want it in the “Dakotas” is to have a captive audience that has to pay for their parking and purchase their food and drink their beer at their prices. They aren’t fooling anyone. Their choice for a site sure as hell is not in the best interests of their fans. They want their cake and they want to eat it too.

  54. granadafan says: May 26, 2011 4:42 PM

    Minnesota is a Teabagger state after voting in that whackjob Michele Bachmann as governor. Surely, if she stayed true to her teabagging mantra, she’d be dead set against raising ANY sort of taxes to pay for a billionaire’s workplace.

  55. fargovikesfan says: May 26, 2011 4:49 PM

    stellarperformance, you sound like one of these crybabies thats whining about having to drive an extra 10 miles to go to a game. Its 10 friggin miles with ACTUAL PARKING and tailgating, not having to park in the HCMC ramp or one of the little 50 car lots in downtown. If 10 miles is too far for you to go, stay home so those of us that drive several hours to go to a game can have better seats.

  56. dogsweat1 says: May 26, 2011 5:07 PM

    Vikings to Los Angeles.

    Minnesota T Bags to Kansas City or San Jose.

  57. dukemarc says: May 26, 2011 5:11 PM

    granadafan says:
    May 26, 2011 4:42 PM
    Minnesota is a Teabagger state after voting in that whackjob Michele Bachmann as governor. Surely, if she stayed true to her teabagging mantra, she’d be dead set against raising ANY sort of taxes to pay for a billionaire’s workplace.

    ————————————————

    There is so much wrong with what you typed, I hardly know where to start.

    Bachmann is a US Congresswoman, not the Governor – that job belongs to a Mega-Liberal, Mark Dayton, who has never had to work a hard day in his life – his family owns the Daytons which also started Target stores.

    Minnesota is the California of the Mid-West – with the gigantic budget deficit($5 Billion) to match.

  58. dogsweat1 says: May 26, 2011 5:11 PM

    Division Adjustment:

    NFC West

    San Francisco

    L.A. Vikings

    Seattle

    Arizona

    NFC North

    Chicago

    Green Bay

    Detroit

    St. Louis/Minnesota Rams

  59. dukemarc says: May 26, 2011 5:15 PM

    fargovikesfan says:
    May 26, 2011 4:49 PM
    stellarperformance, you sound like one of these crybabies thats whining about having to drive an extra 10 miles to go to a game. Its 10 friggin miles with ACTUAL PARKING and tailgating, not having to park in the HCMC ramp or one of the little 50 car lots in downtown. If 10 miles is too far for you to go, stay home so those of us that drive several hours to go to a game can have better seats.

    ————————————————

    Exactly, it’s a nightmare to find parking and get to the Twins new stadium, now you want to double the amount of people looking for a parking space around there? You’d have to walk miles to get to the stadium.

  60. stellarperformance says: May 26, 2011 5:22 PM

    fargovikesfan says:
    May 26, 2011 4:49 PM
    stellarperformance, you sound like one of these crybabies thats whining about having to drive an extra 10 miles to go to a game. Its 10 friggin miles with ACTUAL PARKING and tailgating, not having to park in the HCMC ramp or one of the little 50 car lots in downtown. If 10 miles is too far for you to go, stay home so those of us that drive several hours to go to a game can have better seats.
    —————————————————-

    Save your breath woodchopper. Just because you are comfortable living with six people per square mile doesn’t mean the stadium has to be rural. I’ve had Packer season tickets since before you knew what a football was, and I’ve never lived closer to Green Bay than ninety miles. And getting to Lambeau while living in Atlanta for sixteen years was never an obstacle either. Logic dictates the stadium should be in downtown Minneapolis. OK…grasshopper?

  61. tdk24 says: May 26, 2011 5:39 PM

    “granadafan says:
    May 26, 2011 4:42 PM
    Minnesota is a Teabagger state after voting in that whackjob Michele Bachmann as governor. Surely, if she stayed true to her teabagging mantra, she’d be dead set against raising ANY sort of taxes to pay for a billionaire’s workplace.”

    Minnesota always votes Dems for president though. I think St. Paul is responsible for the majority of whack jobs, like the Colemans. Both are nuttier than fruit cake.

  62. tdk24 says: May 26, 2011 5:51 PM

    “The only reason the Vikings want it in the “Dakotas” is to have a captive audience that has to pay for their parking and purchase their food and drink their beer at their prices. They aren’t fooling anyone.”

    You must be one of the bright ones. Um, have you ever been to a Vikes game? You have to pay for parking anyway, so wouldn’t you rather it go to the team you’re going there to watch instead of some little parking lot that’s owned by who know who? And the food and drink, when you’re in the stadium, you’re buying the concessions that are provided at the stadium. It’s not like there’s a taco bell, champps, famous dave’s, all competing for your business at the stadium.

    I’m not even a vikings fan, but i am a football fan, and having the ability to go to vikings games is one i don’t want to lose. So, 1, charge the $hit out of st. paul (that’s right, lower case you wussies) in a sales tax, and 2, make dang sure you have your own parking lot for real tailgating.

  63. seals1 says: May 26, 2011 5:55 PM

    These politicians make my stomach hurt. As big as a Viking fan as I am I’m tired of this state and our leaders. Minnesota is turning into a punch line. Somehow the team with the largest following does not get the politicians attention. Baaaaaaaaaaa, We are all sheep. Go get your head stuck in the fence because “Norm Green” the farmer is back in the field.

    When this is all said and done Wilf is handling this move in a way that nobody will be able to give him any hell and he will blame it on our leaders and ultimately the voters who put these oil cans in office.

    Good thing the Indians will not be offended that we will gamble off the native tit to get this thing done. $$$ from the Indians to the politicians if the biggest problem we have.

    MN is Joke.

  64. goombar2 says: May 26, 2011 5:56 PM

    vadog says: May 26, 2011 3:16 PM

    Goombar…Once again, your anti-Viking bias is showing!!
    ————————————————————–

    Wow, you figured me out! Way to go there Sherlock!

    —————————————————————-
    Now, I have tried to explain this in away the even you and carlgerbschmidt should be able to understand…that is, if you actually graduated from High School!
    ——————————————————————

    With the clarity you’ve shown in these couple sentences it’s only surprising I can decipher you’re a moron.

    Just because you want to believe something, based on no evidence, doesn’t make it truth. And the truth of what I’m saying isn’t pro or con viking. It simply is the situation here.

    The idea that a 10 minute drive doesn’t make any difference… Wow, I thought every idiot knew the three rules of real estate… It’s location, location, location. That must be some made up bias, huh? Never heard that one before?

    And Zigi could careless about some slob fan grilling luskfish and pickled herring… If it was about the slob fan the metrodump would be fine. What he cares about is the corporate seating, the luxury boxes and other revenue sources. He also cares about getting a Super Bowl which can make upwards of 300 mil.

    Again, Arden Hills won’t be eligible for a Super Bowl. That’s why the vikes didn’t take the last deal that was on the table from Carter… Oh wait, we’re supposed to pretend this is the first time a locale tried to get the vikes…

    I could go on and on why Arden Hills is a joke, but I’d only do it with folks that ACTUALLY know something about this issue.

  65. goombar2 says: May 26, 2011 6:00 PM

    I was at Target Field Monday night for the Killebrew memorial game. I parked 1 block away from the stadium, 5 minute walk and paid 10 bucks. It was far from being a problem.

  66. thephantomstranger says: May 26, 2011 6:25 PM

    I find it interesting that the moderator would allow gay slurs to be posted on these comments but will not allow someone to point it out. Not cool.

  67. schemefactory says: May 26, 2011 7:29 PM

    plagiarized, but worth saving and reposting every time!
    Why the Vikings are the most inept team in professional sports history

    ** 4 Superbowl losses

    ** 5 straight losses in NFC Championship games

    **Gary Anderson who had just completed the first perfect regular season in NFL history (not missing a single extra point or field goal attempt the entire year), missed a 38-yard attempt with less than 2 minutes remaining in NFC championship game that most likely puts Vikes in Superbowl in 98.

    **in 2003 Arizona’s last second touchdown on 4th and 28 against Vikings eliminated Vikings from playoffs. The moment of Arizona’s touchdown was actually the first moment the entire season in which the Vikings hadn’t led their division. The Vikings became the second team in football history to miss the playoffs after getting off to a 6-0 start

    **The “Hail Mary” pass Drew Pearson caught against the Vikes in 75 NFC championship to give Dallas the win in the final minute.

    **Jim Marshall’s wrong way run

    **The Herschel Walker trade in which Vikings gave Dallas three 1st rounders, three 2nd rounders, plus a 3rd and a 6th rounder in addition to 5 players. Walker lasts only 3 seasons in Minnesota
    ** In 1999 the Vikings select Michigan State Defensive end Dimitrius Underwood with the 29th overall pick. Underwood spent one day in camp and walked out. It was eventually shown Underwood suffered from mental Illness. The ineptness of the Vikings comes into play because his coaches at Michigan State warned NFL scouts that he was not mentally stable enough to play in the NFL.
    .
    **Vikings despite being favored, The Vikings lose 41-0 in NFC championship game in 2000.
    **Green Bays Antonio Freeman makes one of the all time great miracle catches in overtime to defeat Vikings in 2000
    **2003 In yet another move of ineptness the Vikings are on the board in the first round of the 2003 draft with the 7th overall pick. The Vikings missed the deadline to make the pick. Meanwhile, the two teams immediately behind Minnesota on the board Jacksonville and Carolina rushed their cards to the podium in New York and made their picks before the Vikings.
    ** With 19 seconds remaining in the 2010 NFC Championship game the Vikings call a timeout on 3rd and 10 at the Saints 33 yard line. They had one timeout remaining, so the smart money was on them running the ball and hoping to gain four to five yards — thus setting up an approximately 45-yard field goal as time expired to win the game. On that next play the Vikings are penalized for 12 men in the huddle. The penalty pushed them out of FG range and most likely cost them a trip to the Superbowl. See below for nail in the coffin on the next play
    **2010 Favre`s 4th down 4th quarter interception with seconds remaining vs Saints in NFC championship puts New Orleans in Superbowl.
    * Between 1986 and 1990, nine Vikings were arrested for drunken driving, and receiver Buster Rhymes was treated for cocaine dependency.

    * In 1988, citing “overwhelming negative response” from the public, the Vikings released convicted sex offender Mossy Cade.

    * In 1994, Joey Browner is charged with third-degree rape in Minneapolis. Charges are later dismissed.

    * In 1995, running back Keith Henderson pleaded guilty to three counts of fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct.

    * 1995, Star Minnesota Vikings quarterback Warren Moon is arrested in Houston and charged with misdemeanor assault after he slapped his wife, choking her “nearly to the point of unconsciousness.” Moon is later acquitted after his wife refuses to testify. A few months previously, Moon had been charged with sexual assault by a Vikings cheerleader in a case that was settled out of court.

    * That year, Moon allegedly struck his wife in the head with an open hand and choked her to the point where she almost passed out, according to police in Missouri City, Texas.

    She did not press charges and, although the case went to trial anyway, Moon was found not guilty.

    * In 1995, the Star Tribune reported that the Vikings paid $150,000 to head off a sexual harassment suit against Vikings assistant coach Richard Solomon, coach Dennis Green’s closest friend on the staff.

    * In 1996, James Harris, Minnesota Vikings defensive end, pleads guilty to third-degree assault for beating his wife.

    * In 1999, safety Orlando Thomas was disciplined by the NFL after pleading no contest to the misdemeanor charge of simple battery on his wife.

    * In 2002, receiver Randy Moss knocked a traffic cop to the ground with his car, then was charged with drug possession. He later reached an out-of-court settlement with the officer.

    * In 2002, two women claimed to be sexually assaulted at the team’s Arctic Blast fundraiser.

    * In 2004, linebackers E.J. Henderson and Michael Nattiel and tight end Steve Farmer were arrested after officers said they saw the players assaulting a man outside the Tabu nightclub in Minneapolis.

    * In 2005, running back Onterrio Smith was suspended by the NFL for a year for violating the league’s substance abuse policy, two months after being caught at an airport with The Original Whizzinator, a kit designed to circumvent drug tests.

    * Also in 2005, coach Mike Tice was fined by the NFL for scalping Super Bowl tickets, and defensive tackle Kevin Williams was arrested on charges of domestic abuse.

    * Wide receiver Kelly Campbell driving a stolen SUV high with a stolen and weapon, with 16 grams of marijuana

    * Daunte Culpepper’s SUV involved in drug arrest

    * Former running back Ted Brown was indicted by a Mille Lacs County grand jury in late 2003 on first-and third-degree criminal sexual conduct charges after an incident at a team function on Lake Mille Lacs. He remains free on bail.

    Brown is charged in a February 2003 incident during the Vikings’ annual Arctic Blast event at Eddy’s Resort. Prosecutors allege that Brown forced sex on an intoxicated woman who was unable to consent.

    * Tommy Kramer DUI
    * Donald Igwebuike involved in drug trafficking
    * Robert Tate threatening to have the mother of his child beaten up by his cousin
    * Kenny Mixon not 1, not 2, but 3 DUI’s while with the team
    * Former Executive Mike Kelly getting a DUI going to bail out players at the Arctic Blast
    * Denny Green Sexual Harassment Allegations
    * EJ Henderson DUI * While every team makes draft blunders I especially like this one. In 2005 the Vikings passed on Aaron Rodgers … twice. Once, to draft wide receiver Troy Williamson at No. 7 and again at No. 18 picking defensive end Erasmus James. Neither lived up to their hype and even more noteworthy both aren’t on the roster
    * January 2011 Vikings De Everson Griffin being arrested 2 times within 3 days. He was Drunk in public and then 3 days later was tased by the police after trying to run away after being pulled over for suspicion of felony battery.
    * 2010 Vikings trade a 3rd round draft pick to Patriots for WR Randy Moss. Moss is cut 4 games later

    *Oh, yeah, that whole sex boat scandal too.
    * 2011 Vikings sign Johnny Jolly ??
    I`m sure there are things I missed but this is why

    I believe the Vikings are the most inept team Professional sports history

  68. contra74 says: May 26, 2011 7:56 PM

    schemefactory says:
    May 26, 2011 7:29 PM
    plagiarized, but worth saving and reposting every time!
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    Hey new guy. You do realize that by reposting someone elses post like that you actually became that original posters B**CH! How does it taste? salty? come up with your own material.

  69. brewdogg says: May 26, 2011 10:13 PM

    carlgerbschmidt says:
    May 26, 2011 3:08 PM
    By the way, does anybody else see the irony in the mayor of St. Paul coming out with a proposal to KEEP the vikes out of his city, but to LURE the timberwolves TO his city? How bad does an NFL team have to be to be considered less desirable than the Timber-Chihuahuas?

    dragonfly99 says:
    May 26, 2011 3:35 PM
    Isn’t it strange the mayor of St. Paul wants the Vikings in Minneapolis and not in his city or one of it’s suburbs? That’s a pretty sad situation when a big city mayor is campaigning for the team not to locate there. Poor Vikings. LOL
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    Is this really that hard to figure out? Are you really so ignorant?

    Let’s see….. T-wolves play 41 home games, Vikings play 8. From a strictly financial standpoint, which do you think will generate more revenue? So would you rather build a whole new facility or put a team in an existing facility? Hmmm……

    The difference between Minneapolis and St. Paul is the width of the Mississippi. Coleman is doing what any decent CEO would do….. He’s trying to keep the Vikings on the other side of the river, therefore not saddling his city with any of the additional costs, while still keeping his share of the benefits.

    Regardless of where the stadium is, both Minneapolis and St. Paul will continue to benefit economically, and if that is the case, they would both want to shift the financial burden to the other. The Arden Hills site means financial burden on the city of St. Paul, and the fact that the site is wide open for development means a slow siphoning of the hotel/bar/resturaunt revenue from the downtown areas out to the stadium site. These two cities have already witnessed something similar, with the Mall of America and surrounding development, and to a lesser extent the Burnsville area. They are not eager to see it happen to the north as well. However, they don’t want to foot the bill either.

    Let me know what part of this is difficult for you to grasp….

  70. cleareye1 says: May 27, 2011 12:56 AM

    Who said Minnesota wasn’t chock full of suckers?

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