Tank Johnson: Chad and T.O. put cloud over team, don’t let Palmer do the same

AP

The way Bengals defensive tackle Tank Johnson sees it, Terrell Owens and Chad Ochocinco just didn’t fit in with the 2010 Bengals.

“When we got Chad and T.O. coming off their TV circuit right into our training camp, I mean, that just put a big cloud over a bunch of humble guys,” Johnson said on Sirius XM NFL Radio, via NFL.com. “And I’m not saying anything to take away from Chad and T.O.’s offseason adventures, because, hey, if they want you on TV, be on TV, but it just really clouded a bunch of humble guys.”

While Carson Palmer isn’t taping any shows on VH1 this offseason, Johnson worries that Palmer’s retirement drama could have a similar affect on the squad.  If Palmer isn’t all in, Johnson wants him out.

“There’s no way that you can bring that kind of energy into the locker room. I mean, if a guy doesn’t want to be there, let him go,” Johnson said.

Those words echoed similar statements from Cedric Benson. In the war of wills between Palmer and Bengals owner Mike Brown, it’s worth noting that Palmer’s return to the team will only get more awkward the longer he stays away after the lockout ends.

39 responses to “Tank Johnson: Chad and T.O. put cloud over team, don’t let Palmer do the same

  1. I totally agree with Tank here. If Palmer does not want to be in Cincy, then once the lockout ends, get the best trade you can for him and move on. Why continue to have a cancer on the team?

  2. Excuses are for losers.

    The Bungles are who we thought they were.

    At least T.O. did his job. The defense was not good, Palmer was not good, the team was terrible, not cloudy, 4 and 12.

  3. Why continue to have a cancer on the team?

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    Because Mike Brown’s top concern is how much cash he can walk away with after every league year. Winning games is probably 7th or 8th thing on his list of important things. While actually winning might tend to increase a team’s revenue, actually doing the things that are necessary to win are expensive and do not guarantee a monetary return, just like marketing.

  4. Palmer wants out and thee Bengals don’t want to get rid of him and the worse thing that could happen is have him come back and just get his huge paycheck.

  5. Never thought I would find myself agreeing with someone like Tank Johnson but the dude hit the nail on the head with his comments. In a team game, chemistry is everything and that’s why regardless of players like T.O. and their individual (yet selfish) talents will never win a Superbowl. But there will be another foolish team (49’ers, Cowboys, Eagles, Bills, Bengals) that will out-think themselves and think that someone like T.O. or Randy Moss or Chad Stinko can be that “missing piece” to winning a SB……let’s hope not but the NFL is all about money so you can expect it too happen.

  6. I can recall when the Bengals’ veterans expressed shock at hearing they finally were going to get carpeting in their locker room.

    Imagine what an owner like Mark Cuban could do for their morale. His “spare no expense” attitude toward his players’ needs would transform the Bengals into an elite franchise and an Ohio destination where free agents would decide to take their talents, don’cha think?

  7. Tank’s talking sense, that’s for sure.

    I propose that the new agreement legislate that there will be two new teams in the NFL, each composed of all the prima donnas, guys like Chad and T.O. and the Twittering fools who are always drawing attention to themselves.

    These teams would be fondly and collectively nicknamed by fans as the Goof Teams.

    One team would be in the NFC and one in the AFC.

    To initially form the Goof Teams, current and would-be “cultural icons” could be hired from within both conferences. There would be no salary caps for these players, so fans could enjoy outrageous acts of tomfoolery to garner the most attention from the media and then wind up with the largest contract.

    Teams owners?

    Hmmm, ownership could be chosen form the current guys (Jerry Jones comes to mind as a marketing genius who would get a Goof Team up and running in a hurry)…

    Or perhaps ownership should come from Hollywood stars who’ve made their millions with tasteless comedy films.

    Or would it be better to require one Goof Team to be owned by a right-wing media star like Rush Limbaugh with the other owned by a conglomerate headed by Rachel Maddow? This might be a good idea because then the Goof Teams could also have a male and female fan loyalty base as well as a political element that’s always good for loud and violent confrontation.

    Coaches? I’d propose Jerry Glanville as one of the Goof Team coaches, hands down.

    By forming two Goof Teams and getting all the self-aggrandizing fools off the other teams, serious football fans could then watch serious football without the silly distractions and fragile egos that currently drive so many players, coaches, owners, and, yes, paying customers like you and me, half crazy.

    I submit this is an idea whose time has come.

  8. TO and Chad put a cloud over the team because they were on TV? Sounds like Tank might be a little envious.

    He is right about Palmer though.

  9. When someone with a rapsheet like Tank Johnson talks about teamates being a cancer that is a scary sign about the state of that franchise

  10. You almost have to hope that the “Play or Retire” stance is just a ploy to drive up Carson’s value. Carson Palmer hasn’t really been “Carson Palmer” since the knee injury.

    …then I remember that it’s Mike Brown.

  11. Tank Johnson is a hypocrite!!!!!

    The Bengals did “Hard Knocks” the year before!!!
    Dhani Jones did his stupid reality show!!!!!!

    That team only won the division in 2009 because Troy Polamalu was injured for AFC North’s true best team and Baltimore’s secondary was worse then too!!!

    Geez, no dangerous interception machines on defense??? Of course I can score more!!!!!!

    Tank is making excuses and the last time I checked no team that makes excuses to win games is good!!!

  12. BTW, if your defense only does well with a running (OF COURSE) you are going no where!!!!!! Adjust to an avid passing game!!!

    They brought Antonio Bryant, Jermaine Gresham, and Jordan Shipley before T.O.!!! You think that those three want to be allergic to the football????

    The defense’s knack for only complementing the run shows that Carson Palmer is okay being a wimp!!! He wants to throw less to get the Bengals 8-10 wins!!! In 2009, he threw for 300+ yards once.

    In 28 combined games of 2008 and 2010, Ben Roethlisberger threw for 300+ yards 5 times. In those two seasons he made Super Bowl appearances.

    Tank Johnson is doing things right in legal matter now, but he is showing phony humility!!!!

    Humble people don’t make childish excuses!!!! The Bengals are a waste of air time right now!!!! Win a playoff game at least and then your air time won’t be that huge of a waste!!!!!!!!!

  13. enders9 says:
    May 28, 2011 11:46 AM
    And I guess Tank forgot that Dhani also has his own TV show
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    And maybe Dhani knows not to let it be a distraction from his day job. The T. Ocho show was all about those morons needing a spotlight.

  14. Carson has to be loving Benson and Johnson’s comments. It’s one more reason for Brown to trade him.

  15. geo1113 says: May 28, 2011 12:42 PM

    enders9 says:
    May 28, 2011 11:46 AM
    And I guess Tank forgot that Dhani also has his own TV show
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    And maybe Dhani knows not to let it be a distraction from his day job. The T. Ocho show was all about those morons needing a spotlight.

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    How was their show anymore them needing the spotlight than Dhani’s was? Someone offered them a show, and they took it. Someone offered Dhani a show, and he took it. Where is the difference?

    The difference is: No one cares about Dhani Jones so his TV show isn’t going to get much attention. A ton of people care about TO and Ocho, whether it’s to hate on them or because they are fans of them. So naturally their shows are going to be much more popular than Dhani’s. That is the only difference.

  16. Oh boo hoo. ‘Cloud’ the little team do they? Whatever the hell that is supposed to mean. What a bunch of whiners. Do your job on the field during the games and mind your own business. If every player just did that they wouldn’t care about what their teammates did before and after the game and we wouldn’t have to read cry baby stories like these.

  17. Palmer was fine with Cincinnati when he was pampered with an All-Pro line, 1500-yard rush support, a trio of top WRs and a defense that got all those turnovers — so Palmer could pad his stats and land that big contract. But things get a little tough, and wahhhhhhh! I want out!

    This is why Palmer will always be an overhyped underachiever, who will never reach the top level of QBs (though the dumb media heads painted him as elite). He’s simply not the leader that Roethlisberger or Brady are. He’ll never reach their level. Things go south, and what, the QB wants to bail? That’s like the car mechanic walking away from the car because somebody else didn’t make it run right.

    Palmer is the ultimate big-game choker and little-game superstar. He’s great when the stakes are low.

    Palmer wants QB money and punter responsibility.

  18. geo1113 says: May 28, 2011 12:42 PM

    enders9 says:
    May 28, 2011 11:46 AM
    And I guess Tank forgot that Dhani also has his own TV show
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    And maybe Dhani knows not to let it be a distraction from his day job. The T. Ocho show was all about those morons needing a spotlight.
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    The difference is: No one cares about Dhani Jones so his TV show isn’t going to get much attention. A ton of people care about TO and Ocho, whether it’s to hate on them or because they are fans of them.
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    Thank you for making my point. Dhani doesn’t need the attention like TO and Ocho do. I don’t know about you but I would much rather be around a guy who knows how to be interesting for something other than football.

  19. I don’t recall T.Ochco designing the gameplans and calling more passes than runs last season. That’s on the coach (cough cough). And what more could T.O. have done in the Superbowl w/the eagles? Let Carson go though.

  20. Pure BS. If anything Johnson’s quote regarding Owens and Johnson tells me the rest of the Bengals were jealous and I dont know how that is the fault of either receiver. Johnson would have had a valid complaint if he said that Owens and Johnson didnt work hard when they got to training camp, but you didnt hear that because despite their personalities both have great work ethics. T.O had some trouble in Philly, but he was a scapegoat in Dallas and there were no problems in Buffalo. People are going to hate on Owens and Johnson no matter what they do even though the worst thing they have done is be goof balls. They never get in trouble off the field, but they some of you act you would think they are two time felons.

  21. How is tank one to talk? They may be a circus act off the field and riding bulls and all. At least they are not in trouble with the law. As for Palmer, I feel his frustration. Bengals keep picking up all these has beens instead of getting quality players who are going to contribute now and in the future. But as a captain he needs to deal with his issues in house and not make threats like that through media. Come on Carson , you can’t retire with a national title that is probably tainted anyways.

  22. damn i dont get why ppl think TO is so bad. sure he had a horrible past but you really havent heard much from him these last few years and he was definitely productive last year.

  23. Never thought I would find myself defending TO but Tank Johnson has to be on drugs. The defense did not play as well as the year before so I guess he is saying that TO & Ocho show made their play slip. Hmmmmm when he was playng with his guns and getting suspended I guess that wasn`t a distraction and plus TO may have been the best player on the team last year. Excuse Excuses

  24. Unbelievable….. Tank is going to criticize fellow players for having side jobs in a league that can’t even get it’s sh*t straight enough to guarantee work for it’s own players? T.O = 3,587 yards and 38 TD’s in three seasons in Dallas, 983 yards and 9 TD’s in one season with Cincinnati (with a QB with failing talents). Tank Johnson in 2010 = 10 tackles, ZERO sacks. Tank, start doing your job and then maybe you can stick a mic in front of your face and throw jabs at those who are doing theirs and carrying your weight, idiot

  25. I still believe this is all Palmer’s wifes doing. She can’t believe some booed her husband after another multiple interception game. If he’s not man enough to stand up to her, then he hasn’t got a chance in the NFL any longer. I was his biggest supporter since he was drafted, but this is even too much for me to stomach any longer. Bring on Andy Dalton and good ridance #9.

  26. I guess the all the humble bengals are part of the .000001 percent of the country that actually watch their shows or even think TO and Ocho are more than just great WRs past their prime.

    Chad had been an attention hoebag from day 1, obviously bringing in T.O. created a cloud over T a n k’s head. It’s part of Life, as well as Football.

    No matter how popular or controversial a teammate or c0-worker or sibling/friend is… its no excuse for one not being able to do one’s job, achieve goals etc. Especially if that ones name is Tank, supposedly.

  27. philyeagles5 says: May 28, 2011 9:15 PM

    damn i dont get why ppl think TO is so bad. sure he had a horrible past but you really havent heard much from him these last few years and he was definitely productive last year.

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    It’s simple: Haters gon hate

    And half the time, the things haters say are completely idiotic.

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