Chester Pitts claims players are “in this for the long fight”


Seahawks guard Chester Pitt, a player representative to the union that supposedly has become a toothless (from a labor standpoint) trade association, has been one of the most outspoken players in the slowly-unfolding lockout.  In direct response to former NFL quarterback (and, let’s face it, current NFL employee) Kurt Warner’s assessment that “[t]he players have to give in” and at a time when some players are openly calling for meaningful negotiations aimed at ending the lockout sooner rather than later, Pitts tells Mike Freeman of that “most players are in this for the long fight.”

It sounds good.  But how accurate is it?  Given that men like Falcons running back Jason Snelling contend that no one is listening to his belief that negotiations should be happening now, there’s a chance that the “players” (i.e., the NFLPA*) are truly listening only to the players (i.e., the men who wear the helmets) who are willing to, for example, give up a season while the lawyers try to establish maximum leverage via the court system.

Freeman believes that Pitts’ feelings represent the mindset of “many” players.  But here’s the thing.  There’s no gray area when it comes to whether the players (i.e., the men who wear the helmets) want to work things out or sit out for as long as it takes to get the kind of leverage that will protect their 50-cent pie of an ever-growing pie.

In our assessment, plenty of players are willing to take a year off if need be.  But plenty of others aren’t.

That polarity will come into focus if the Eighth Circuit allows the lockout to proceed and the question then becomes whether the players (i.e., the NFLPA*) will move on to the next branch in the litigation tree or whether the players (i.e., the men who wear the helmets) will demand that the players (i.e., the NFLPA*) respond to the league’s offers of March 11 and May 16 (if an offer was actually made on May 16) and commit to continuous negotiations.

Even if the players are divided equally regarding the question of whether to work things out or to hold firm, half of the players plus one would be enough to form a new union and negotiate a new labor deal that would bind all players.  Though it’s way too early to know whether it would ever come to that, the players (i.e., the men who wear the helmets) who want to work things out should now be able to conclude that the players (i.e., the NFLPA*) currently view negotiation as capitulation, even if it isn’t.

62 responses to “Chester Pitts claims players are “in this for the long fight”

  1. The Shyster is leading these morons like Pitts right up to the edge of the cliff and over it, and these blind minions are following along.

    I’m still shocked that the players elected an outsider, an even more shocking, elected an attorney.

    Attorneys are only interested in cases that will bring them a more prestigious career position, and alot of billable hours. It’s very clear that the Shyster is taking the route that racks up the most legal fees instead of the route that gets a fair deal done.

    The players had better take the reins from this clown quickly

  2. well they better do it in a few days then. cause i bet the second the appeals court rules against the union*, duh will just file appeals en masse, and still not attempt to negotiate anything.

  3. It’s pretty easy for Pitts to be carrying the “we’re in it for the long run” banner for De and his parrots since he’s cashed over $20 million in checks over his NFL career. I’m guessing not all players feel the same as Pitts – regardless of how they’re being told to act and what to say….

  4. how must it feel to be on what is suppose to be the most liberal host of websites and have to find supporters with a pro union slant.

    anybody who cant see that the current players stance is death to the game, in my opinion is an idiot.

  5. Chester seems like a good soldier toeing the company line. However, we all know that most young men in their early 20’s don’t exactly sock away every extra penny. The players are what they are and the majority of them will be ready to cut a deal when they see the prospect of missing checks. The owners know this. We all know this. Mr. Pitts and the lawyers running the players ‘association’ better be ready for this.

    Following the 8th circuit upholding the lockout, the only question left will be how bloody the players want to make this. They will probably get the same deal whether they hold out till the union cracks or cut a deal on June 4th.

    Personally I hope the owners sweeten the pot over what they have offered so far in exchange for a long term deal cut right now. Then gradually begin to withdraw money each month if the players don’t come to the table.

  6. the current players leadership dont want to negotiate, they are essentially calling the owners bluff and playing a game of chicken.

  7. Ego and pride has replaced common sense. Neither side will get an outcome that is worth the loss of games and dollars.

    This fan will not watch or spend a dollar for at least an equal period of time, from time lost from training camp on.

  8. Has any of these stupid ignorant pro-owners boot kisser’s figured out yet DeMaurice Smith is not acting in the capacity of a attorney, but as the duly elected leader of the NFLPA*? So he is not billing the players fee’s, and his attorney background is a added bonus, since the players and him correctly surmised this would end up in courts.

    This notion of half plus one forming a new union is a non-starter. All the players were forewarned this would be a long fight and to prepare accordly. The ones who didn’t, tough cookies….and that half plus one who didn’t prepare are suppose to have the wherewithal to form a new union? When you are fighting for not only your rights but also for those who came before and will after you, sacrifices must be made. This isn’t 1987 when the owners made players cross the line or bought others (QB club)…this is all for one. The owners have guessed wrong, Snelling, Cromatrie etc…are the ill-prepared minority.

  9. This ties in directly with your other column today, where you chastised the owners for laying off employees even though no games are being played at the moment. Players like Pitts believes that the courts hold the only answer–if the players had been willing to even offer a counteroffer to the March 11 deal the owners put on the table, we maybe wouldn’t have a lockout, and these people in the admin positions would still have their jobs. It will be interesting on Friday, or at least at the end of June, if the courts find in favor of the owners–then we’ll see how many players “are in it for the long haul”.

  10. As much as I dislike DeSmith, I do have to acknowledge that he is doing exactly what his previous experience and capabilities have prepared him for. He is a litigator first and a negotiator second.
    His negotiation skills have been developed only to negotiate with a court ruling to back/impede him. He is gambling, as in every lawsuit, that the court will give him a victory, and the ultimate leverage to dictate the terms of the negotiations. A loss is unthinkable to him. The litigation strategy he has designed is a winner take all strategy. He has endeavored to place the league in a no-win situation to give him total leverage. If the lockout is lifted,the league will be forced to promulgate some sort of rules to operate under. These will, as he anticipates place the league directly into the jaws of the anti trust lawsuit.

    Essentially, DeSmith has created a situation where, for the owners, the only option is to blow up the league as it now exists, or surrender to his demands.

  11. Owners=Billionares
    Players=Millionares,if they dont blow all their money foolishly
    Owners expected career=Till they die or sell
    Players avereage career=4/5 yr5s
    Easy to c how this one ends

  12. That’s right, Chester. You are 31 years old. Your career is winding down. You have made around $18 million over your career. There are about 20-25 guards in free agency who will be a better value than you. Of course, you can wait. You really have nothing to lose. The guys who have something to lose are those who make a few hundred grand a year and only play a couple of seasons. If they are lucky after taxes, they have enough money to buy a nice house, a decent car, and have a few bucks in the bank while they transition into a new career. Nice of you to look out for those guys.

  13. When is someone going to call it like it is? The owners every time you see them on TV keep saying we need to get down to real negotiations, over and over again that is all you hear from them.

    The players rep’s?, Court, we are in it for the long haul, you suck and on and on they go. Who do they have running their show?, they need to replace them with a few people that have a little something upstairs.

    With the players having won with Doty and what looks like a win for the owners coming up this month it is a great time to sit down and hammer out a deal. Mt take, the players do not want a good deal they want to try and change Football as it has been run for years into a Free For All.

    I hope they go down and I hope they go down hard and with the dummies they have running the show they look to be in for a hard landing.

  14. People pay to see the players, not the owners. TV contracts are huge because people want to see the players. It’s a multi-billion dollar business because people want to see the players.

    Here’s what the players ought to do: form their own brand new league. Each team would remain intact with the same players, but the NY Giants would now be the NY “Gothams.” Each group (team) could form a corporation of their own, sell stock, and get investors to put up money for stock. There are lots of rich people who could put up millions because there are huge profits in owning a pro franchise. Hire coaches, including the ones now coaching in the NFL. Lease college stadiums on Sundays. Hold a draft. Negotiate a new TV contract. When players and coaches are signed they would get stock in the team. So every player and coach would have a vested interest in the team fortunes. The teams would be owned by the players, coaches, and private investors.

    Who would you tune in to watch – Bob Craft’s New England Patriots with former division II players and leftovers from division I, or the New England “Independents” with Tom Brady and Wes Welker, coached by Bill Belicheck? Tom Benson’s New Orleans Saints quaterbacked by some guy throwing to some other guy, or the Louisiana Crazy Cajuns with Drew Brees throwing swing passes to Reggie Bush?

    They could tell Dan Snyder, Jerry Jones, Jerry Richardson and all the rest to get themselves some new players to lock out.

  15. I hear that Dr. Jesus (Tebow), is in no hurry for a settlement, because he’s trying to convert immigrant Hmong families in the Denver area to Jesus!

  16. What amazes me s that these geniuses are actually serious about sitting out a year and losing one year’s salary.

    Think about that.

    How many millions are stars like Brady and Manning leaving on the table? Even the lesser skilled players are leaving a full year’s pay on the table, never to be recovered, for WHAT?

    De Smitth clearly wants to change the face of not only the NFL, but by extension, every major sports league in the country. If you’re a player with a five year career and getting $1 million a year, you just left 1/5th your career earnings on the table for something you are very unlikely going to benefit much from personally.

    Do you think De Smith cares that you’re loosing a million dollars of your short earning career?

    Stupid, stupid, stupid.

    Get your a$$es back to the table, quit trying to change the face of sports, and reach a fair settlement and get back to earning a living.

  17. This is a great sign for the owners. It probably indicates there are already cracks forming the Players Union/Trade Association.

    In other words,

    “If the postion that the players are in it for the long run is REALLY selling amongst the players, why does Chester Pitts have to advertise that they are in it for the long haul?”

  18. They can be in it as long as they want because I for one am growing weary and will find something else to do on Sundays, Thursdays and whatever other day they put on their product…

  19. I don’t think the players taking out 6 figure loans a 50% interest and in debt to jewlers are in it for the long haul.

  20. the courts will rule for the owners. it’s obvious whether you agree or not. the only leverage the players have is if they are willing to miss games. are the owners willing to miss games? cancel 9/11 new york vs new york, etc? cancel games knowing full well that no matter what happens they will never miss for the rest of their lives a 1000 dollar meal in a 10,000 dollar a night resort, because they are billionaires after all? hard to say whether the owners would allow the idiocy to run amok past september. but my fear is this has already become a machismo contest. if we have to wait for one side to say “ok yours is bigger” this may go on forever.

  21. Negotiation is capitulation…that seems to be a pretty fair assessment of the NFLPtA approach.

    How do negotiate with someone who refuses to negotiate?
    1) You ask them nicely and say please…or
    2) Lockout

    DeSmith is leading it to the mattresses for a long sleep.

  22. I hope the hard line players don’t try to drag this out for the long fight. If it comes to a situation where the players have to start a new union to derail the current ex-union’s litigate or die strategy it would severely hurt any leverage the players have and the new union will be really weak! While I agree with the owners in the dispute (I’m businessman and I understand the economic issues involved), I don’t want to see a weak union taken advantage of by the owners, because in that situation I might be forced to side with players during the next labor dispute in 8 years. I just wish the current union leadership will get their act together and realize they will have to make concessions eventually or they will never play again, so better make them now before everything starts to fall apart.

  23. duanethomas says:
    Has any of these stupid ignorant pro-owners boot kisser’s figured out yet DeMaurice Smith is not acting in the capacity of a attorney, but as the duly elected leader of the NFLPA*? So he is not billing the players fee’s, and his attorney background is a added bonus, since the players and him correctly surmised this would end up in courts.

    Duane, we both know that the pro-owner folks enjoy either being misinformed, or spouting false information, as long as it makes Smith and / or the players look bad.

  24. geo1113 says:
    That’s right, Chester. You are 31 years old. Your career is winding down. You have made around $18 million over your career. There are about 20-25 guards in free agency who will be a better value than you. Of course, you can wait. You really have nothing to lose. The guys who have something to lose are those who make a few hundred grand a year and only play a couple of seasons. If they are lucky after taxes, they have enough money to buy a nice house, a decent car, and have a few bucks in the bank while they transition into a new career. Nice of you to look out for those guys.

    Chester Pitts IS looking out for all of the players, not just himself.

    Instead of saying “let’s get this settled quickly since my career is almost over”, he’s looking out for the next generation of football players just like Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, etc.

  25. Since there is no labor union, we need a labor organizer or maybe the Teamsters to start organizing for a new union or Teamsters jurisdiction.

    Once they get 50.1% of the players signed on, they can be certified, the Teamsters can negotiate a new contract, and its full steam ahead.

    Since there is no more NFLPA, all we need is a strong organizing effort, like the Teamsters or AFL-CIO would undertake at any business.

  26. Ahh the proplayer shill Duanethomas is back spewing propaganda again.

    Hey genius, the players are not fighting for those who came before and after. Your Shyster already made it clear he is not concerned about past players.

    And yes billable hours are racking up. How many other attorneys(associates/friends) has the Shyster added to the team. He is of course getting a cut.

    You talk all this now, but I bet you will be the first one crying uncle as soon as you miss your first gamecheck………Rashard Mendenhall,,oops, i mean Duanethomas

  27. We’ve heard enough from Chester Pitts!!!!!

    Chester do us a favor until the lockout is over, SHUT UP!!!!

  28. So many haters.

    We all want football, and we all have opinions on what is fair, but unless you are putting your body or a billion dollars at risk, you do not have a vote.

    I will be glad when this is over.

  29. If the players give a rat’s ass about the fans (which I’m starting to seriously doubt), as soon as the 8th circuit upholds the lockout, they’d instruct their head dude to re-certify the union and negotiate a temporary fix to this while they continue to push for their pie-in-the-sky b.s. through the courts. They should agree to play the 2011 season by 2010 rules with no salary cap in exchange for the owners’ conditionally lifting the lockout until either the litigation is finally settled or until next March, whichever comes first. That way, the fans would have a full season of football, the owners and players would continue to rake in the bucks, and the two sides can continue to slug it out in court without holding the 2011 season (and the fans) hostage. If these dudes give a rip about the game and the fans, they’d agree to such a plan. We’ll see if they do (although statements by De and guys like Pitts don’t exactly give me a warm fuzzy about this whole mess).

  30. @ duanethomas
    Are you with pitss…in it for the long hauL

    consider, that with litigation, appeals, more appeals, finally to SCOTUS for final adjudification, the time frame could be 5 – 7 years?

    Consider that you will be out of the league due to age and deterioration of skills from sitting on your butt with no organized practices? How many years are you willing to be in it for the long haul? Prepared to totally sacrifice your career and income for the “previous and future” players?

    I severely doubt, that when the time frame stretches out beyond this season, that you will have the determination to hang in there for “the long haul”

  31. Many players aren’t willing to negotiate without maximum leverage in order to maximize the of money they will receive in any new agreement.

    Aren’t these the same players who criticize some of the owners for maximizing their money by laying off unnecessary employees?

    Seems like the greed isn’t limited to one side.

  32. The bottom line is NFL football is a hobby for the NFL owners. Only one of them (Al Davis) has football as his primary source of revenue. If they lose the 2011 season, they lose one of their toys.

    On the other hand, football is the only source of significant income for virtually all NFL players. If 2011 is cancelled they lose everything.

    I wonder who is going to cave first. the answer is obvious.

  33. Well I can say I am glad i live in Winnipeg so I can still watch the CFL and now an NHL team too…. Whats the NFL anyway? Does it stand for “Not For Long”???? hahaha

  34. Pitts is a tool of his agent. His agent is the son of Jeffrey Kessler, lead council for the NFLPA. How often have you heard about Pitts before? Never. He is not a good player. The only reason you hear about him now is that Jeffrey Kessler is using him as a way to get out propaganda.

    Kessler is an idiot if he thinks thinking people will just let him run the NFL into the ground for the sake of making his family millions. He wants to dissolve everything that makes the NFL the NFL. He has already made over $25 million in legal fees from 2006-2010. Now that he is the lead in all the lawsuits, the amount he is making must be staggering. Meanwhile middle and lower tier players are suffering as are everyone employed by the NFL, hotels, stadiums, vendors, etc. All for the sake of making the Kessler family richer. It makes me want to puke.

  35. Another fatass player saying he’s ready to holdout (for months)…LMFAO. I just wish they would grow up an keep their damn mouthes shut,an go pay some of the laid off NFL workers.That’s all you players seemed so worried about

  36. As much as I love football I can adjust and move on without it.
    My dog would be really happy if I threw her the ball instead of watching the game on Sunday.
    I have a million things to do around the house that get put on the back burner every Sunday.
    If I had spent 3 hours playing my guitar every Sunday instead of watching the game for all these years I would be Jimi Hendrix by now.

    Entertain me or shut the f**k up already!
    I am too old (49) to give a damn about rich guys playing a game anymore and if they screw up this season then they have lost me.

  37. Unconfirmed reports breaking out of Denver are the Dr. Jesus (Tebow), has approached the players union with a solution to the current labor impasse.

    Apparently Tebow wants to get all union members and representatives of management and owners together at Cowboys Stadium and have them all hold hands and ask for enlightenment from “Jesus Christ his Lord and Savior”, as everyone puts their differences aside and sings a rousing rendition of: “Bringing in the Sheaves!”

  38. Chester, that statement sounds good now… since nobody has missed any checks yet. Just wait until the “season” starts and players don’t get paid and can’t afford their bling, women, and Escalade payments.

  39. “People pay to see the players…..”

    BS. Real fans follow their teams regardless of who may be playing at the time.

    And by the way, do you really think people pay good money to see Chester Pitts?

  40. Once and for all idiots I am not a NFL player nor have I ever been. I hope that clears it up for you, I don’t see how you could come to that conclusion. I have not mistaken any of you for owners, only as uneducated, limited skills who have basic jobs and hate successful athletes. Some of you work for NFL teams as support staff and are resentful of the players salaries, while you toll away barely making ends meet.

  41. I don’t think anybody ever mistook duanethomas for a NFL player, I think it was just you get what you dish out. You and a lot of the other pro player posters insist that we’re all paid shills for the NFL or at the minimum, that we are paid employees of the league. A lot of posters here Duane, understand that the last CBA was unsustainable from a financial standpoint for too many franchises; the Packers for example.

    Now, given that the NFL minimum is almost 400k per year and the average salary in the NFL is over 1.7 million dollars per year, considering that the NFL only wants to limit the increase in yearly salaries via the cap, most of us who are pro NFL do not see anything so terrible about the average salary in two years being 1.750 million dollars per year instead of 1.9 million per year.

    It is obviously better for the long term prospects of the league and the game and you cannot tell me that any player will suffer undue hardship because of that change in the growth in salaries.

    And I think it is the pro player posters who have a problem with resentment of ownership based on class and wealth. An awful lot of your posts seem based on class envy and the overall union mentality of hating anybody who doesn’t agree with “labor’s” position and line.

  42. tommyf15 says:
    May 29, 2011 9:31 PM

    Duane, we both know that the pro-owner folks enjoy either being misinformed, or spouting false information, as long as it makes Smith and / or the players look bad.
    …says the poster who keeps saying Goodell is a lawyer no matter how many people try to correct him. Just sayin’.
    There are extremists on both sides and I’m not a fan of either extreme.

  43. Isn’t Chester Pitt the cousin of Arm Pitt?

    These NFLPA buffons are still being lawyered up on the guise the Management will blink soon. When they do they will get that all allusive collective bargaining agreement that basketball and baseball have.

    The big market areas will win and get the top players and the other 2/3rds of the teams, like baseball and bball will be also rans.
    Parity ends and you and I get to watch the same two teams in the super bowl each year. Football will never be the same for the fans and the players don’t give a sh$$.

  44. LMAO at everyone of us, both sides of the issue on these boards.
    I think that nearly every one of us has the ability to think rationally, exception being a very few who are 12 years old and have no experience nor knowledge dealing with problems other than those created on video games.
    Just suppose, for the sake of discussion, that we provide a solution that is reasonable and realistic. Propose one that can be discussed with logic and no vitriol.
    Bashing and insulting each other, and bragging about your testosterone levels and size of your organ are obviously gaining nothing in this impasse.(and I am as guilty as anyone).
    We all know that both sides in this stalemate, and the sports media in general, closely monitor this board, and others like it.
    Want your voices heard? Then, we should put something out there that is worth listening to instead of the same bashing comments that every board and discussion forum now display.
    I could care less who started the fight, who walked in/out of negotiations, who is greedy, who has the biggest ego, etc. That is all in the past. What matters is where we go from here, and that is a big “nowhere” as long as everyone is unwilling to talk about anything.

  45. One thing about all the comments, if the players read any of this they can truly see they have started to lose a big part of the fan base. Not that the fans even fall for the crap from the players and God-del that the fans play a big part in decesions made. Many of the players have that pumped up chest feeling and I for one can’t wait till it is deflated.

  46. With all the time the players have on their hands now its obvious they don’t read the posts from this website which clearly indicate that the majority of fans are fed up with De smith, his minions and their tactics. Its apparent, that the players do not wish to negotiate, and won’t agree to anything less than their own terms and conditions.

  47. @willycents

    I propose that the players wake up and replace the attorney that is making a fortune off the players backs.

    Install a player or former player that TRUELY has the players best interests and the interests of the game at heart.

    The problem is DeMaurice and the players not realizing that he does not have their best interests in mind. He only has his own interests in mind.

    Put Tony Gonzalez, Tony Richardson, Jason Snelling together with Stan Kroenke, Bobby Kraft, and Bob McNair and NOBODY else and I am sure a deal can be reached

  48. @ calvikefan
    This is but one of many blogs I participate in. Without counting posts, the general feeling I get from the comments on them, I get a similar feeling to what you stated.
    The players seem to have a disconnect from what is actually being said. Perhaps they have a private blog they all peruse that is only available by subscription to players by an assigned login by the NFLPA*?
    Most of the pro player/pro owner comments I read anywhere else are very similar to what is posted here. Seems, in an overview of comments, many pro player comments offer only bashing the league/pro owner commentors. Many pro league commenters seem to be trying to recommend getting back to the table.
    My personal analysis of the overall is that many ofr the pro player folks have difficulty in refuting the comments of the other side, so they instead resort to demeaning statements in an effort to diminish the value of their statements; a procedure that simply, quite often, backfires.

  49. ernieernie says:
    May 30, 2011 11:11 AM
    Isn’t Chester Pitt the cousin of Arm Pitt?
    erniee…. I hear that his Mother’s name is Prune and his Daddy’s name is Tar. He also reportedly has a sister name Cherri too!!!!

  50. Rumor has it that Tar his Daddy had an affair with Mama Prune was pregnant with Chester and had an illegitimate son named Brad who went on to become a movie star and now his jealous half brother Chester is out to get his piece of the pie too!

  51. wikkycenst:
    What matters is where we go from here, and that is a big “nowhere” as long as everyone is unwilling to talk about anything.

    Great point, get DeMoron and the players back to the table to talk about ANYTHING. Oh, that’s right, they don’t want to negotiate. They selected DeMoron instead of someone who cares about them and the game and he we sit.

  52. imsmartandyouarenot says:
    I propose that the players wake up and replace the attorney that is making a fortune off the players backs.

    You’re aware that the players voted for DeMaurice Smith over Troy Vincent, right?

    And how is he “making a fortune”? You do know he’s not billing hourly, correct?

    The greatest labor leader in sports history was Marvin Miller, who never played professionally.

    BTW, I stand happily corrected. Goodell is not a lawyer and I stopped saying he was as soon as I found that out.

  53. tommyf15
    The greatest labor leader in sports history was Marvin Miller, who never played professionally.

    Says everything anyone needs to know. You aren’t interested in what is best for the league LONG TERM, only who gets the best(read most cash) for the players. Your endpoint is much like DeMoron’s and doesn’t have anything to do with what is best for ALL parties involved(you know coming to a NEGOTIATED settlement that suits all sides), only how much of a money grab the players can get.

    Guess you are union steward or community organizer or some such

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