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Lawyers remain on the bench during negotiations

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell enters a federal courthouse to resume talks regarding labor and revenue issues between the NFL and the NFL Players Association in Minneapolis Reuters

The good news is that the NFL and the players resumed their not-so-secret negotiations on Tuesday.

The better news is that the lawyers were told to stay away.

Adam Schefter of ESPN and Jason LaCanfora of NFL Network each have supplied attendee information that makes clear the absence of the men whom both sides perceive to be an impediment to the process.  LaCanfora reports that the same cast of characters as last week attended this week’s session.  For the owners, that was Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, Patriots owner Robert Kraft, Panthers owner Jerry Richardson, Steelers owner Art Rooney, Giants co-owner John Mara, and Commissioner Roger Goodell.  For the NFLPA*, the persons present consisted of executive director DeMaurice Smith, Chiefs linebacker Mike Vrabel, Broncos safety Brian Dawkins, Jets fullback Tony Richardson, Colts center Jeff Saturday, and NFLPA president Kevin Mawae.

Also attending was U.S. Magistrate Judge Arthur Boylan.

Per Schefter, the meeting occurred at a hotel in New York City.  By all appearances, the talks will continue Wednesday.

As long as the parties can keep the lawyers out, there’s cause for real optimism.  Kraft said earlier this year that, if the lawyers were pushed away from the table, a deal could be reached in a week.  With three days of talks last week and one this week, maybe we’ll have some unexpected good news in time for the weekend.

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37 Responses to “Lawyers remain on the bench during negotiations”
  1. realitypolice says: Jun 7, 2011 8:15 PM

    So Demo Smith isn’t a lawyer anymore?

  2. hobartbaker says: Jun 7, 2011 8:17 PM

    De Smith was able to gain entry by carefully painting over the white stripe that ran the full length of the back part of his body.

  3. kegowhisky says: Jun 7, 2011 8:19 PM

    Okay….But doesn’t the lawyer stink on DeMaurice Smith upset the apple cart? I’ve always wondered how you could have a lawyer-free environment with him still involved.

  4. sakatak says: Jun 7, 2011 8:20 PM

    Maybe these clowns will start acting like men and get this deal done.

  5. derekjetersmansion says: Jun 7, 2011 8:23 PM

    Why must we know the lawyers were out of the room? I’m pretty sure a 9 BILLION dollar industry needs lawyers to do something like this. Also, they got the most progress done on the deal when the lawyers were there.

    I just don’t understand why they didn’t negotiate all this time. Who cares if the lawyers are there or not? It’s their league, not the lawyers.

    If I didn’t come here for the tabloid news, I wouldn’t come here at all. You guys disgust me. Start being objective. You can be objective and have an opinion. It’s not mutually exclusive. For example, tell us why the lawyers should and should not be there. Then you can say what you think. Start playing both sides of the issue. I know you can.

  6. footballfanatic3431 says: Jun 7, 2011 8:25 PM

    If your implying that you think there could be a CBA done by this weekend, I respectfully disagree.

    That’s like saying the Bills can win the Super Bowl this year.

    At the end of the week, I would be thrilled to hear that talks did not break down.

    That would be good enough news for me.

    Anything more then that is just extra.

  7. time2speakup says: Jun 7, 2011 8:28 PM

    Last weeks scrubbing of yesterdays scheduled session was not nice. However, they’re back talking now and its all I care about.

  8. trbowman says: Jun 7, 2011 8:29 PM

    Where they belong. Keep them out.

    There’s no reason they shouldn’t be meeting daily.

  9. lovesportsandsurfing says: Jun 7, 2011 8:29 PM

    Nobody cares.

  10. narutofan10 says: Jun 7, 2011 8:31 PM

    “derekjetersmansion says: Jun 7, 2011 8:23 PM

    Why must we know the lawyers were out of the room? I’m pretty sure a 9 BILLION dollar industry needs lawyers to do something like this. Also, they got the most progress done on the deal when the lawyers were there.

    I just don’t understand why they didn’t negotiate all this time. Who cares if the lawyers are there or not? It’s their league, not the lawyers.”
    ————————————————————-
    someone hasn’t read one article on here or even one comment have they? :D they have made much more progress without the lawyers but again obviously you didn’t read that

  11. bucfandango says: Jun 7, 2011 8:33 PM

    Let’s hope so.

    Fingers crossed.

    Cautiously optimistic.

    Season Tickets are paid for already.

    Oops.

  12. rushbacker says: Jun 7, 2011 8:35 PM

    Why is everyone always so tough on lawyers?

    It’s only ninety-eight percent that give the rest a bad name. . .

  13. cincinnasti says: Jun 7, 2011 8:39 PM

    For the owners, that was Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, Patriots owner Robert Kraft, Panthers owner Jerry Richardson, Steelers owner Art Rooney, Giants co-owner John Mara, and Commissioner Roger Goodell.

    _______

    Where’s Ralph Wilson and Mike Brown in all this?

  14. atlien698 says: Jun 7, 2011 8:42 PM

    If we knew with certainty that the NBA finals would go 7 games, I’d bet the NFL/NFLPA would announce an agreement the day of the game just to stick it to the NBA (and I’d have no problem with that!)

  15. duanethomas says: Jun 7, 2011 8:43 PM

    hobartbaker says:
    Jun 7, 2011 8:17 PM
    De Smith was able to gain entry by carefully painting over the white stripe that ran the full length of the back part of his body.

    LoL. I was going to be contrary but that was funny. Good one.

  16. raiderapologist says: Jun 7, 2011 8:45 PM

    realitypolice says: Jun 7, 2011 8:15 PM

    So Demo Smith isn’t a lawyer anymore?

    Only a lawyer would lie about having no lawyers in the room.

  17. vahawker says: Jun 7, 2011 8:52 PM

    No Lawyer=hope
    DeMoron still around=not so much

  18. texansmike says: Jun 7, 2011 8:53 PM

    It’s quite simple.

    A deal could easily be reached this week if the clerk in the District court would anounce that a ruling might come as early as Monday.

    A new CBA would be in place by Sunday.

  19. joetoronto says: Jun 7, 2011 8:59 PM

    Besides the bottom of the ocean, the sidelines are a good place for the lawyers.

  20. nflfan101 says: Jun 7, 2011 9:03 PM

    I tend to believe that if they got all lawyers, including D. Smith, out of the room, there could/would be a deal. But that one lawyer left in the room is the problem. He doesn’t want to negotiate, he wants to litigate. And he controls one side of the two sided dispute.

    We will know that there was some serious negotiations when we hear that D. Smith has made some concessions. Until then, this is all talk leading to nowhere, just like the earlier CBA talks when D. Smith walked out.

  21. commandercornpone says: Jun 7, 2011 9:07 PM

    mawae, NFLPA*

    he is practically a lawyer. clubhouse lawyer, that is.

    and duh smith is a freakin lawyer. ambulance chaser and sham decertifier.

  22. brooklynbully says: Jun 7, 2011 9:28 PM

    I pray to God a deal is reach soon

  23. smittydub says: Jun 7, 2011 9:37 PM

    The De Smith bashing is getting quite pathetic…hide behind your not-so-clever screen names and continue spewing your BS…a deal will get done despite you back-biters…

  24. msclemons67 says: Jun 7, 2011 9:38 PM

    Looks like the two sides are starting to act like adults. Good to see.

  25. kdppatriots says: Jun 7, 2011 10:12 PM

    I think we should lock them in a room with no air conditioning, windows closed, and only a little water until they hammer out a deal then when football is on, we let them out? Whos with me?

  26. laeaglefan says: Jun 7, 2011 10:16 PM

    I think the court is waiting to see how these negotiations go. If they feel that no progress is being made they will put the heat on by announcing that there will be a ruling on the lockout on a certain date.
    That will behoove the two parties to get their act together and start getting serious.

  27. gregski79 says: Jun 7, 2011 11:00 PM

    Laeaglefan,

    I think the Circuit Court has already implied that in their remarks last week. It appears that both sides may be taking the courts seriously this time around.

  28. thefiesty1 says: Jun 7, 2011 11:12 PM

    Get DeMo out and the process will move forward. It’s just a waste of time and energy if he’s involved.

  29. blackdb says: Jun 7, 2011 11:31 PM

    Who is kidding who cutting employees pay with the promise of repaying it if no games are lost means the owners are counting on games being lost then they don’t have to repay a dime. I would be very surprised at a quick end to this.

  30. killxswitch says: Jun 7, 2011 11:49 PM

    cincinnasti says: Jun 7, 2011 8:39 PM

    For the owners, that was Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, Patriots owner Robert Kraft, Panthers owner Jerry Richardson, Steelers owner Art Rooney, Giants co-owner John Mara, and Commissioner Roger Goodell.

    _______

    Where’s Ralph Wilson and Mike Brown in all this?
    —————-

    Hopefully tied up and tossed in a closet somewhere. I would put Richardson in there with them but it seems like Kraft, Rooney, and Mara are enough to keep things moving in a positive direction.

  31. blackmarketkidneys4less says: Jun 8, 2011 12:10 AM

    Where’s Ralph Wilson and Mike Brown in all this?
    —————-

    Hopefully tied up and tossed in a closet somewhere. I would put Richardson in there with them but it seems like Kraft, Rooney, and Mara are enough to keep things moving in a positive direction.

    ———

    The young guns of the league did everything to make Ralph a punchline after he was the only one to say the last CBA was a bad deal that was railroaded down their throats by an outgoing commish. Two years later every one of them were eating crow and voting to opt out of the deal. Too bad he’s 92. Maybe he should be in the room after all.

  32. cuzidid42 says: Jun 8, 2011 1:23 AM

    Well, here’s hoping that they get something done real soon. If they fail to get anything done by the end of June, I plan on canceling my NFL Sunday Ticket on cable, because the competitivenest just won’t be there. The only two teams I feel are football ready right now are the Packers and the Patriots, and I predict that they will be in the Superbowl unless something is done quickly.

  33. nolanorth says: Jun 8, 2011 2:40 AM

    Smitydud “The De Smith bashing is getting quite pathetic…hide behind your not-so-clever screen names and continue spewing your BS…a deal will get done despite you back-biters…”

    Lol this clown must be his brother!! Smity smith, your brother is a chump!!!

  34. upperdecker19 says: Jun 8, 2011 2:50 AM

    “For the owners, that was Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, Patriots owner Robert Kraft, Panthers owner Jerry Richardson, Steelers owner Art Rooney, Giants co-owner John Mara, and Commissioner Roger Goodell. ”

    Al Davis must have been unavailable.

  35. hodag54501 says: Jun 8, 2011 8:20 AM

    William Shakespeare:
    “The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers.”
    (2 Henry VI, 4.2.59), Butcher to Jack Cade

    Will knew then what is becoming apparent now in the NFL talks.

    Doesn’t the originator of this website have another profession as well?

  36. jramsey25 says: Jun 8, 2011 8:23 AM

    I think this is another encouraging step and god knows its needed as this lockout has been really boring me for a while.
    I dont understand why there are so many comments about De Smiths involvement, like him or hate him there is not going to be a deal without him being there so get over it.

  37. nmeagle33 says: Jun 8, 2011 9:10 AM

    GIT ER DONE

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