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Ticket brokers feeling lockout pain too

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The NFL did an about face this week, saying season ticket sales were now down for the year.  Ticket brokers already knew that.

Rick Maese of the Washington Post took an early look at the lockout’s affect on the secondary ticket market, which is unsurprisingly taking a hit.  Don Vaccaro, chief executive of popular online ticket exchange TicketNetwork, says NFL sales are down 53 percent.

“That is a huge, huge swing.  It seems that a lot of folks on the lower end aren’t buying tickets, and it could be the start of a multiyear problem for the NFL, like we’ve seen with some other leagues,” Vaccaro said.

Another broker says he’s not even buying tickets until the lockout ends.  StubHub didn’t provide numbers, but also talked about feeling the pain.

While ticket brokers aren’t the people you worry about first during the lockout, their lack of activity speaks to a greater malaise this offseason for football fans.

Of course, that malaise is nothing a few more productive “not-so-secret” negotiating sessions couldn’t fix.

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22 Responses to “Ticket brokers feeling lockout pain too”
  1. cometkazie says: Jun 7, 2011 7:12 PM

    What’s the real difference between a ticket broker and a ticket scalper?

    One is legal and the other isn’t?

    How much more than “list” do brokers charge?

    I’ve been to exactly two Saints games. To give you an idea how long ago the first one was, some guy named Lombardi was coaching the Redskins, and I went to Super Bowl IV, and someone else paid for all the tickets so I don’t really know about NFL tickets.

  2. st0n3r78 says: Jun 7, 2011 7:15 PM

    Good, im glad. Maybe those greedy companies can go bankrupt. Im so sick of a $75 ticket from the teams being sold through these companies for $400+. The teams should figure out a way to prevent these damn scalpers from buying up all the tickets and reselling them with a 500% increase in price.

  3. steeltownpride says: Jun 7, 2011 7:27 PM

    Screw the ticket brokers . All those years getting double and triple face values they should have saved their money better as well .

  4. dapell says: Jun 7, 2011 7:41 PM

    At least there are some added benefits to this lockout and sham decertification… The golden goose is sick, and the parasites that feed off it are starting to go hungry.

  5. phonecops says: Jun 7, 2011 7:41 PM

    Call them scaplers, until they pass a law that says no one can sell a ticket for more than twice face value. This somehow became an industry when it should be banned.

  6. 12is3times4 says: Jun 7, 2011 7:50 PM

    steeltownpride: “Screw the ticket brokers.”

    Um, no. The last thing ticket brokers deserve from anyone is sexual favors.

  7. vahawker says: Jun 7, 2011 8:02 PM

    I got waylaid to a secondary market site in search of some concert tickets and was offered a pair for $400. When I got to the REAL site, it cost me $80 for better seats.

    Funny how the NFL can fine a guy for not wearing his socks right and then turn around encourage what would be illegal for most of us to do. Also, how, unless, they have inside contacts or some sort of contract with the league do they consistently get the best seats. NFL cares about the “fans”…I call BS!!!!

  8. hobartbaker says: Jun 7, 2011 8:21 PM

    The scalpers are clutching their heads and bleeding red ink.

  9. hank10 says: Jun 7, 2011 9:02 PM

    Possibly the best thing to happen during the lockout. Of course once this thing is settled, all the pinheads will once again flock to the ‘legal’ scalpers and hand over their mortgage payments to see a game.

  10. hank10 says: Jun 7, 2011 9:11 PM

    ‘st0n3r78 says: Jun 7, 2011 7:15 PM

    Good, im glad. Maybe those greedy companies can go bankrupt. Im so sick of a $75 ticket from the teams being sold through these companies for $400+. The teams should figure out a way to prevent these damn scalpers from buying up all the tickets and reselling them with a 500% increase in price’

    Some teams already do and it isn’t that much better. The Eagles are ‘partnered’ with Ticketmaster where season ticket holders can sell their tix. And here’s the kicker direct from the site’s FAQ:

    Do I have to pay any fees to use this service?
    Yes. In addition to paying a price for the ticket, fees typically include an authentication and reissue delivery fee. You will also pay additional fees that may be reflected during the purchase process or that may be included in and deducted from the listing price of the ticket.

    The only way around this is to not buy tickets from third-party agencies, brokers and the like.

  11. chargerdillon says: Jun 7, 2011 10:22 PM

    Here’s a simple solution too all of you idiots crying about ticket brokers…. DONT BUY TICKETS

    They wouldn’t exist if chumps weren’t stupid enough to pay it, and guess what THERE’S MORE CHUMPS THAN PEOPLE SAYING NO!

    Don’t blame ticket brokers, they wouldn’t have jobs if people had self control and say to themselves i will watch this game at home, and if its blacked out, ill make due instead of paying several hundred.

    It’s that damn simply people.

  12. valman61 says: Jun 7, 2011 11:39 PM

    To those complaining about scalpers, wait until your team builds a new stadium, charges psls, and adjusts prices to market level and watch those brokers, along with your season ticket holders, and the slight chance of buying a ticket at face value for reasonable price and location disappear. Trust me, when the brokers can’t make money that just means no one can buy a seat for a cheap price. At least with brokers there’s an outside chance you get one from the gate or a friend for a decent price at face value. If you don’t beleive me check out cowboys or giants face values.

  13. laeaglefan says: Jun 8, 2011 12:18 AM

    I went to my first Eagles game in 1964 at the LA Coliseum to watch them play the Rams. I had 50 yard line seats and they cost a whopping $5 each. Those same seats today at the Linc would probably be $500…..if not more.

  14. rcali says: Jun 8, 2011 1:19 AM

    So happy to hear this. This year is going to hurt ticket scammers.

  15. tealsox says: Jun 8, 2011 1:32 AM

    FYI, the teams and brokers are working together. I know for a fact that the New York Jets allocated 1000 tickets per regular season home game to a brokerage to sell on the secondary market. Tickets were sold for prices above face value and both parties walked away with profit in their pockets.

    The list continues of teams goes on. Don’t like it, I’d suggest not using your hard earned money on teams that just as soon rape the fans that support them.

  16. piemasteruk says: Jun 8, 2011 3:10 AM

    I’m not quite sure that “fans buy less tickets to games that might not take place” really constitutes an insight or even news. If the labour dispute gets resolved, the season starts, and ticket sales are *still* significantly down then that would constitute something interesting. Right now, all that is likely happening is that fans are postponing their ticket purchasing until there is more certainty regarding the future. Hardly unexpected or interesting.

  17. trollaikman8 says: Jun 8, 2011 4:06 AM

    I’m actually ecstatic that these scumbags are losing money.
    As far as expensive ticket prices go, it’s a bit amazing that with the state of the economy, and the continuous price drops of HDTV’s that the demand to see games at the stadium is as high as it is (and as expensive). But I guess if you live in Minnesota/Kansas City/Tennessee,etc., doing meth must get old eventually.

  18. bluefan204 says: Jun 8, 2011 5:39 AM

    Sorry. I’m fresh outta sympathy for those criminals

    (Unless, of course, they want to buy some from me @ triple face value…)

  19. stanklepoot says: Jun 8, 2011 6:37 AM

    Seriously, wtf? The very people talking about how great the owners are, and acting as if their financial success validates every action they’ve taken to make even more money, are bitching and moaning about ticket brokers? What do ticket brokers do? They match people who are willing to sell their tickets for a certain price with people willing to pay a certain price to get tickets, and then they charge a fee for that matchmaking service. I see nothing at all wrong with this. If anything, they should simply get rid of all scalping laws and let us do the same thing on an individual level. Let’s face it, this is the free market at its purest.

    Oh, and if you want to rail against ticket brokers for being too akin to scalpers, then why not take the natural progression and compare credit card companies to loan sharks. Some of those interest rates violate the usury laws that are still on the books, yet the law protects the credit card companies. That’s how rich people protect and increase their wealth in many cases. They spend money to get special rules and special exemptions added to the law to benefit their interests. Some of you seem to want to attack the ticket brokers for seeing to it that their industry is given special consideration by the government, but refuse to accept or admit that one of the reasons the owners are so successful is that they do the very same thing. For once, can the pro-owner crowd show just a shred of consistency?

  20. dd393 says: Jun 8, 2011 6:49 AM

    I don’t feel real sorry at all for these thieves.

  21. richegghead says: Jun 8, 2011 9:13 AM

    Some brokers may lose 53% on NFL but smart ones are making it up on Barcelona vs Manchester United Futbol!

  22. piemasteruk says: Jun 8, 2011 12:18 PM

    “For once, can the pro-owner crowd show just a shred of consistency?”

    Well I kind of agree with you on both points, but do you have any evidence that it is the same people citing both arguments? Or is it just a “most people on PFT seem think this and most people on PFT seem to think that so they must be the same people”?

    For example, I am one of the ‘pro owner crowd’ I guess, but I have no problem at all with people scalping tickets or loan sharks charging what the hell they like.

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