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Pash’s past comments make it hard for him to complain about getting benched

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On Monday, Daniel Kaplan of SportsBusiness Journal said during an appearance on PFT Live that the lawyers for both sides aren’t pleased at all with the fact that they’ve been excluded, as of last week, from negotiations on a new labor deal.  The fact that the talks are occurring in the presence of a mediator makes the indignity even more insulting for the lawyers.  Indeed, few attorneys ever would tolerate their clients negotiating in the presence of a mediator without the benefit of guidance, advice, and/or babysitting from the barristers who supposedly know better.

Former Ravens coach Brian Billick, in a very good column regarding the fact that the league knew from the day the owners opted out of the labor deal that Commissioner Roger Goodell would become the public pin cushion when a lockout is imposed, shares a comment from NFL general counsel Jeff Pash that makes it very hard for Pash to now complain about the decision that Goodell has made regarding the absence of the lawyers from the process.

“If you follow through with this, you need to be prepared to stand by this man,” Pash reportedly said, “when he gets all the blame for it.  Because nearly everyone, from the players association to the press, is going to be pointing fingers at him.”

Today, this means that Pash and Bob Batterman and every other lawyer who isn’t in the room really can’t say a word about Goodell’s desire to try to land this plane without the benefit of a crew of trained pilots.

Of course, Pash is probably the least likely to now complain.  Unlike most of the other lawyers who now aren’t involved in the process, he’s not billing by the hour.  And with his salary slashed to $1 per year during the lockout, why work for free?

In all fairness, Pash deserves credit for recognizing the wisdom of walking away from the table.  Right or wrong, the players have decided they don’t like Pash, almost as much as the owners don’t like NFLPA* legal mastermind Jeffrey Kessler.  So each side has sacrificed a key soldier, and perhaps both sides can now win the war.

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23 Responses to “Pash’s past comments make it hard for him to complain about getting benched”
  1. realitypolice says: Jun 8, 2011 8:52 AM

    Still more blather about nothing.

    The only thing that matters right now is how long it takes the 8th circuit to rule. Despite the judge’s “warning” that neither side would like the ruling, these guys have had this plan in place for too long to change course now.

    Once they rule, whichever side loses will adjust it’s position and the deal will get done.

    Of course, fellas, if you want to go ahead and settle it now to prove me wrong, feel free. :-)

  2. fltharley says: Jun 8, 2011 9:04 AM

    they would be better off firing goodell , and getting a cba done.

  3. bleedgreen says: Jun 8, 2011 9:33 AM

    How come Pash is just a “lawyer” but Kessler is a “Legal Mastermind”?

  4. harleyrider1973 says: Jun 8, 2011 9:40 AM

    It not in the lawyers best interest to reach a new CBA. With that said let the “secret” meeting continue and F the lawyers

  5. biggerballz says: Jun 8, 2011 9:41 AM

    bring back tagliblue

  6. armchairgm9 says: Jun 8, 2011 9:41 AM

    The fact is, the NFL is a deadline league. Late June is a very big point. If they can get a deal done by then, they’ll get full camps and a decent amount of time for free agency. Once it gets into July, camps will get cut short, and they may lose a preseason game or 2. Hopefully they’re feeling a sense of urgency.

  7. bsizemore68 says: Jun 8, 2011 9:43 AM

    So far this has been the best move the NF has made, its like going Thur a divorce, the lawyer will get the wife to screw you even more, as they say, we split 50/50 and she got the bigger part. Bill

  8. drevilstolemymojito says: Jun 8, 2011 9:43 AM

    I have giant bag of “shush” here for you Mr. Smith. Start negotiating, or I will use my liquidation button to remove the last lawyer from the room.

  9. chatham10 says: Jun 8, 2011 9:45 AM

    What a shock, lawyers upset about not having their voice and billing hours heard. The only way a deal is done is without lawyers.

  10. readimgram1 says: Jun 8, 2011 9:48 AM

    The lawyers can pound sand

  11. mightymightylafootball says: Jun 8, 2011 9:53 AM

    I wrote “*yawn* in the comments field, and it got deleted. Guess that’s not an appropriate post. Fair enough – please allow me add some substance for you. I’m sure your content editors will appreciate it:

    *ahem*

    “This article is a gigantic tornado of stupid. Filling blog space with arbitrary perspectives about an NFL lawyers assumed feelings regarding participation in a labor arbitration meeting teeters on the edge of short bus retarded, then swan dives right off the edge. It’s an asinine and laughable waste of space, propelling your readers into the dark, black abyss of bureaucratic and political dribble. If we wanted that, we would just go back to work. Only a complete toolbox would think that any part of this article was worthy of ‘print’. I challenge the writer to identify any member of the target audience that could conceivably give a crapola. Please stay focused”.

    Better?

  12. waitingguilty says: Jun 8, 2011 9:54 AM

    So to clarify…

    Pash should not complain.

    And Pash has not, to your knowledge complained.

    And is unlikely to complain under the circumstances.

    Got it.

    For the love of God someone please end this lockout!

  13. mattyc says: Jun 8, 2011 10:12 AM

    Thank god, Robert Kraft, & Roger Goodell for having the common sense to know….. The lawyers could ruin a wet dream if they made $1 off it….. Why do they care if they ruin the game of football? Hell, Batterman was in on the ruining of the NHL, so you know he don’t care. And Kessler, don’t get me started on the Devil in a suit. He & De Smith are the two biggest bums in the whole process. So, getting 3/4 of the problems out of the room could & should very well settle the issue, hopefully by the weekend. I want to start hearing who has a visit with the Browns, Lions, Packers, Steelers, etc….. Not who is visiting the courthouse through legal ignorance!

  14. realitypolice says: Jun 8, 2011 10:32 AM

    @mightymightylafootball:

    That post was spectacular. It made me very, very, happy.

    I actually cut and pasted it into a word doc so I could keep reading it in case it gets yanked.

    Nice work.

  15. mightymightylafootball says: Jun 8, 2011 10:50 AM

    @realitypolice

    Thanks brother.

    These days, I basicly come to this site for the responces, rather than the articles themselves. Your stuff is always gold. Keep it up.

  16. capslockkey says: Jun 8, 2011 11:49 AM

    Can I have a refund on those couple minutes of my life that I wasted readying whatever the hell this is supposed to be? Come down from your pulpit already. Preaching that a guy shouldn’t be complaining, yet isn’t even complaining in the first place. Cart before the horse?

  17. pwall1 says: Jun 8, 2011 11:56 AM

    All the posters who are complaining that these lockout stories aren’t “real news” or “real progress” should just save themselves the heartache and not follow the lockout until July.

    The lawyers are being billed for the time, and while it’s admittedly fun and easy to make fun of the lawyers through all this, everyone involved realizes that real, substantial talks needed to happen between the owners and players. Once they have a solid framework to build around is when the lawyers come in and do their jobs to formalize everything.

    Every day these talks continue is good news and the progression we need to see a deal done in time for the start of training camp.

  18. olcap says: Jun 8, 2011 12:11 PM

    Roger Goodell = Jeff Pash = two dufi who know nothing about living outside of their silver-spoon upbringings.

  19. wcman says: Jun 8, 2011 1:06 PM

    I’m not sure why some of you keep lashing out at Goodell and say he should be fired, like that would solve something. He is not the problem here people. He is paid by the owners to act on their behalf, he is doing what he is paid to do. Firing him solves nothing as it is the will of the owners that is forming that side of the battle.

    The players lash out at him because they are afraid to lash out at their ownership for fear of retribution once this thing gets settled. It’s chickenbleep posturing and nothing more.

    The reason this thing is where it is, is because De Smith convinced the players that litigation was the way to go, which it wasn’t. De Smith may be a good lawyer I don’t know, but he’s not a skilled negotiator and that is the biggest problem in this stalemate. You’ve got to have people that want to get a deal done, and when the objective by one side is to force a deal through litigation, it’s counterproductive and leads to where we are now.

    The best part of this story is the fact there are fewer lawyers involved. That is the way it should have been from day one. A deal cannot be forced through the court system; it has to be collectively bargained between the two parties. Maybe they are finally wising up to that.

  20. myballsmyrules says: Jun 8, 2011 1:18 PM

    There will be a new deal by July 1st, give or take 3/4 days

  21. dukemarc says: Jun 8, 2011 1:20 PM

    “Today, this means that Pash and Bob Batterman and every other lawyer who isn’t in the room really can’t say a word about Goodell’s desire to try to land this plane without the benefit of a crew of trained KAMIKAZE pilots.”

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    Fixed

  22. xinellum says: Jun 8, 2011 2:14 PM

    Mr Mightmightylafootball, your comment was…

    “I wrote “*yawn* in the comments field, and it got deleted. Guess that’s not an appropriate post. Fair enough – please allow me add some substance for you. I’m sure your content editors will appreciate it:

    *ahem*

    “This article is a gigantic tornado of stupid. Filling blog space with arbitrary perspectives about an NFL lawyers assumed feelings regarding participation in a labor arbitration meeting teeters on the edge of short bus retarded,”

    Any Moron who still uses the phrase “retarded” in refering to anyone in society should have their account deleted as words such as “retarded”, “kike”, “wop” and the like are signs of ignorance of many things other than just football. Please keep your ignorance and name-calling to yourself. Even though I feel you qualify under a host of stereotypes, I will not resort to name calling other than to educate you of your own ignorance and that using slurs to insult people, simply show your lack of command of the english language.

  23. bradjames33160 says: Jun 8, 2011 2:35 PM

    I must confess I get really angry when people hate on Roger Goodell. He is a good commissioner, and he will help lead the way to a new CBA in the next few days, I hope. (well, by June 20, a new CBA would be a really awesome birthday gift:)

    Anyway, I am an amateur NFL historian and if anyone pays attention to my archives, Goodell will be lionized as a solid commissioner.

    At least he wants to do the right thing so he should be applauded for that.

    There were lots of dirty things going on in the Paul Tagliabue era, including that 11th hour CBA which got us into this mess.

    Give Goodell a chance, he’s a good man!

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