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Adam Jones: “If Carson don’t want to be here, damn him”

Chad Ochocinco, Adam Pacman Jones AP

A third member of the Cincinnati Bengals has come out to say that he doesn’t particularly want Carson Palmer to return to the team.  Take it away, Adam Jones:

“If Carson don’t want to be here, damn him, period, point blank. I love the city of Cincinnati,” Jones told Eric Schmoldt of 102.3 in Denver via SportsRadioInterviews.com. “His little brother is here working out, which is a good sign. But if you don’t want to be here, I don’t want you here. I want some guys that want to play and want to win, period, point blank and that’s the end of that discussion.”

The cornerback formerly known as Pacman joins Tank Johnson and Cedric Benson as Bengals have come out publicly against Palmer. (Incidentally, the three men were once featured together on the “NFL Police Blotter Men of 2007″ calendar.)

The public condemnation won’t help Palmer’s chances of returning to the team, but ultimately we don’t think it will really make a difference. Palmer seems steadfast against returning to the organization.  But if he changed his mind at some point, we don’t think what Johnson, Jones, or Benson think will really make  a difference.

Like Palmer, they aren’t even guaranteed to be with the team in 2011.

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63 Responses to “Adam Jones: “If Carson don’t want to be here, damn him””
  1. cincinnasti says: Jun 9, 2011 7:23 PM

    Damn straight! No one wants to be on a team with someone that gave up everything Carson is giving up. He basically had the front office on strings, had an excellent inflation based contract, and a city full of fans the believed in him. Damn you Carson Palmer, history will see you as the pansy that you are. Using the organization as a scapegoat for own failures.

  2. trbowman says: Jun 9, 2011 7:23 PM

    lol.

    Tank Johnson, Cedric Benson and Pacman Jones are the voices of reasons in Cincinnati.

    That’s how bad things are there.

  3. rcunningham says: Jun 9, 2011 7:28 PM

    There’s a ton of obvious jokes here but I agree with him somewhat.

  4. harmcityhomer says: Jun 9, 2011 7:28 PM

    Why does Pacman think it is safe for him to speak in public? Just make it rain.

  5. lance19 says: Jun 9, 2011 7:28 PM

    Gee, and a player wants Pacman’s cred
    on his side, the way a politician wants
    an endorsement from NAMBLA…

    Nothin’ to see here, kids…

  6. canadianvikingfaniii says: Jun 9, 2011 7:29 PM

    Adam Jones is the last person to be criticizing anyone.

  7. bearsrulepackdrool says: Jun 9, 2011 7:31 PM

    “The cornerback formerly known as Pacman joins Tank Johnson and Cedric Benson as Bengals have come out publicly against Palmer. (Incidentally, the three men were once featured together on the “NFL Police Blotter Men of 2007″ calendar.)”

    What makes them think THEY’RE going to be Bengals when the season starts?

  8. ballergac says: Jun 9, 2011 7:32 PM

    Yea and these high character guys should be listened to? Look if he wants out, he wants out, players want out all the time.. he’s not making a huge media fuss.. but there’s a reason why he wants out. To me Carson looks like he’s always put in the work. Perhaps he’s just tired of not getting the same from the organzation/players.. whatever his reasons, their his. No need to be bashed, if Bengals can get fair value for him then they need to trade, if not, keep him and he retires.. ok. Life goes on..

  9. tommybr4 says: Jun 9, 2011 7:33 PM

    Good for PAC!

  10. panther74 says: Jun 9, 2011 7:34 PM

    Are you serious dude!!! I am NOT a bengals fan…I am a Panther fan, but bigger than that …I’M A NFL FAN… and as an NFL fan,”PACMAN” and Tank Johnson should be 2 of the last people condeming anybody. Last I checked … Carson Palmer has been a positive for the NFL throughout his career…and you 2 have been_________ ( yall fill in the blank)…bottom line ..SHUT UP!

  11. saberstud75 says: Jun 9, 2011 7:36 PM

    I cannot imagine why Palmer would refuse to go back to Cincy. How can you lose when the “Triad of Fail” has your back?

  12. tommynatorii says: Jun 9, 2011 7:39 PM

    Adam “Pac-Man” Jones to Carson “Donkey Kong” Palmer….”Wokka-wokka-wokka..”

  13. ndgarretjax says: Jun 9, 2011 7:39 PM

    In the words of Mike Singletary: “I want winners. I want people who want to win.”

  14. prmpft says: Jun 9, 2011 7:45 PM

    …and bring on the scrippers!

  15. TheWizard says: Jun 9, 2011 7:47 PM

    If you have this jerk bitching about you, chances are you’re doing the right thing.

  16. mac3333 says: Jun 9, 2011 7:51 PM

    Adam Jones has many faults but at least he’s not a quitter. A quitter is the last thing you want in your locker room. Especially the starting QB and team captain.

  17. TheRealist says: Jun 9, 2011 7:54 PM

    To Pacman’s credit, he hasn’t been in trouble since the Cowboys let him go.

  18. couldntthinkofaname says: Jun 9, 2011 8:03 PM

    STFU, PacSuck. Players like you are WHY he “don’t” want to be there in the first place.

  19. philwauke says: Jun 9, 2011 8:03 PM

    Make it rain!!!! Wait! give it back!

  20. hobartbaker says: Jun 9, 2011 8:05 PM

    Now known as “Smackman” Jones.

  21. cw3214 says: Jun 9, 2011 8:05 PM

    Mike Brown is one of the few owners crazy enough to allow Carson Palmer to retire instead of trading him.

  22. mddare007 says: Jun 9, 2011 8:06 PM

    We love you too Pacman. Please don’t make it rain again.

  23. shian11 says: Jun 9, 2011 8:08 PM

    What does it say about Carson Palmer when tank(armed and ready) Johnson and Adam(I can make it rain) jones are the voices of reason!!!!!!

  24. goforthanddie says: Jun 9, 2011 8:09 PM

    Carson has a better chance at playing opening day than Pacman.

  25. tfbuckfutter says: Jun 9, 2011 8:12 PM

    Am I the only one that didn’t realize Pacman was still in the league?

    (And calling him Adam just added to the confusion).

  26. unclecaptainshane says: Jun 9, 2011 8:12 PM

    Apparently Adam Jones’s english teacher “Don’t want to be here” either

  27. bdkrebs says: Jun 9, 2011 8:19 PM

    Shian11

    U forgot I can drive cars and boats drunk Cedric Benson! Anything those guys say I would pay close attention too.

  28. coolheir says: Jun 9, 2011 8:40 PM

    This isn’t team loyalty as much as its 3 players who are collectively stroking the only NFL owner foolish enough to put up with their crap while keeping them on the roster and for the most part, overly compensated.

  29. imjinbrdgr says: Jun 9, 2011 8:45 PM

    I question why would anybody want to be there, and why would anybody care who was or was not there?
    That franchise is so bad they just need to flush 2 and start over.

  30. nimbushex says: Jun 9, 2011 8:55 PM

    Adam Jones, Tank Johnson, and Cedric Benson… could there possibly be a group of 3 players worse than that to represent your team?

  31. Bubby Brister says: Jun 9, 2011 9:15 PM

    I get the feeling “damn” isn’t the word Pacman really wanted to use here.

  32. ampats says: Jun 9, 2011 9:21 PM

    Three criminals now speak for the Bengals on their QB. Adam Jones ?? What a joke !

    Lets call it now.

    With the first pick in the 2012 NFL Draft the Cinncinatti Bengals select ——–

  33. melonnhead says: Jun 9, 2011 9:27 PM

    To Pacman’s credit, he hasn’t been in trouble since the Cowboys let him go.

    ——————————————————

    He probably has, its just that nobody cares because he’s with the Bengals now.

  34. iplaybingowitholdpeopleandwin says: Jun 9, 2011 9:31 PM

    Is it me or is it absolute comedy that there are a group of “ex-cons” who play for a team who’s uniform colors include correctional facility orange and jail stripes?

  35. whodeytn says: Jun 9, 2011 9:38 PM

    Damn straight! No one wants to be on a team with someone that gave up everything Carson is giving up. He basically had the front office on strings, had an excellent inflation based contract, and a city full of fans the believed in him. Damn you Carson Palmer, history will see you as the pansy that you are. Using the organization as a scapegoat for own failures.
    ==================

    Come on man!

    A pansy? He brought the Bengals back into the football world, gave up his knee for the team in the playoffs, played with a broken nose that was dripping blood, and played a season with a completely shredded thumb that had to be taped back to his hand so it didn’t just flop around.

    And you call him a pansy? Get a clue dude!

    And who cares about his contract – he had the worst owner in all of football (maybe pro sports all together) that re-signed a LOSING coach. He also had to deal with Chad his entire career, which is awful.

    There are those who take it personally that he wants out, and those that simply see it as a man making a great career move that is best for him and his family. Get over it.

  36. tk1966 says: Jun 9, 2011 9:44 PM

    I guess Pac-Man is indirectly damning most of the NFL (think about it for a moment….)

  37. macker1283 says: Jun 9, 2011 9:53 PM

    Who gives a crap about any of this. The league is in a lockout. These “practices” are pointless. Nothing matters until a new labor deal is in place. The Bengals are acting tough now with Palmer because they know they can’t trade him right now anyways even if they wanted to. The second the lockout is over, they will start looking to deal him. They are completely incompetent if they don’t.

  38. rcali says: Jun 9, 2011 9:56 PM

    To be fair, he hasn’t violated his parole lately.

  39. footballphan says: Jun 9, 2011 10:02 PM

    @lance19–
    Groff, is that you??

  40. NFLJunkie says: Jun 9, 2011 10:05 PM

    Poor Palmer. It’s like being the QB on the island of misfit toys.

  41. dotnukem says: Jun 9, 2011 10:32 PM

    ^^Fail^^

  42. offkiltereagle says: Jun 9, 2011 10:33 PM

    Evidently Carson is tired of the Cincinnati scrip clubs

  43. MVQB7 says: Jun 9, 2011 10:44 PM

    A drunk driver, a gun nut and a rainmaker all representing their team, city and calling out their (ex?) starting QB? What next Cincy? Ochocinco & T.O. doing political commentary on MSNBC?

  44. hitdog042 says: Jun 9, 2011 11:00 PM

    Tank Johnson is a great guy. I know him. He’s all about his kids and family. The dude had guns illegally. Big deal. That makes him a jerk? I’d trust him with my kids any day of the week. Dead serious. Tank is a wonderful human being. As for Adam not guaranteed a spot on the bengals that’s a joke. No NFL player is guaranteed a spot. Jones however will have one. Guaranteed. As will Ced who was close to signing when this all began.

  45. rajbais says: Jun 9, 2011 11:39 PM

    GO PACMAN!!!!!!!!!!

    KEEP PLAYING YOUR BUTT OFF AND SHOW CARSON WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A REAL FOOTBALL PLAYER!!!!!!!!!

    MIKE BROWN, PLEASE LISTEN TO YOUR OUTSPOKEN PLAYERS!!!!!!!

  46. raviq10 says: Jun 9, 2011 11:58 PM

    He hit a woman – his opinions don’t count.

    In other news of “criminal athletes whose opinions no one gives a sht about” Former Buffalo Bills RB and current convicted felon, O.J. Simpson, has been outspoken of late regarding recent changes to “da chow schedule” at Nevada’s Lovelock Correctional Center. Meatloaf Monday, also known as “M*ther F*ckin’ Meatloaf Monday” sparked a controversy this week as the inmate favorite was replaced by Macaroni and Bologna. One inmate, who asked to be referred to as “Plex”, was so distraught by the news he accidentally shanked himself in the leg. Another man so infuriated by the meatloaf shakeup tried to organized an effort to sabotage the pudding. That’s right — sabotage the pudding! “Whats next? Turkey Tuesday Mother F*ckers” the inmate shouted as the guards reigned down blows to his head with wooden clubs. Who could endure such a beating? Who could willfully sabotage the pudding? Answer: O.J. Simpson. Later when asked how he felt about the Meatloaf Mayhem, Simpson slowly stood up, took 2 steps forward, stared for a moment, and then calmly replied, “thoroughly outraged”. He then pulled his pants down and took a sh*t on the floor.

  47. killxswitch says: Jun 10, 2011 12:10 AM

    macker1283 says: Jun 9, 2011 9:53 PM

    Who gives a crap about any of this. The league is in a lockout. These “practices” are pointless. Nothing matters until a new labor deal is in place. The Bengals are acting tough now with Palmer because they know they can’t trade him right now anyways even if they wanted to. The second the lockout is over, they will start looking to deal him. They are completely incompetent if they don’t.
    ——————-

    Mike Brown is both president and owner of the bangles. Hence, they will not trade him IMO.

  48. kpweaver27 says: Jun 10, 2011 12:20 AM

    Say what one will about Jones, Johnson, and Benson as upstanding citizens, but I bet they are better teammates than Palmer. I have a big problem with Carson essentially claiming to be too good for this team when he has been a below average QB for the last few years. He was given good targets and still could not keep the Cincinnati offense potent.

    When evaluating a QB, its easy. Just rank ‘em. We’ve got 32 starting quarterbacks in this league, and Palmer came in at 21 on my list. That is behind guys like young arms Bradford, Freeman, and Stafford, and also behind Fitzpatrick and dead man walking David Garrard. He still ranks behind free agents and backups like Kyle Orton, Matt Hasselback, Kevin Kolb, and Shaun Hill. He is a worse option than all of them.

  49. mick730 says: Jun 10, 2011 12:42 AM

    Me lik-ed scrip clubs.

  50. goldsteel says: Jun 10, 2011 1:51 AM

    Even with all his money, I still feel sympathy for Carson Palmer. Being drafted by the Cincinnati Bengals has destroyed his NFL career. Carson will never be on a team that has a chance to make it to the Superbowl. The owner of the Bengals will never trade him which is an asinine position considering the picks the Bengals would get for Palmer. Mike Brown is never going to win owner of the year.

  51. tv426 says: Jun 10, 2011 6:32 AM

    Someone, PLEASE teach this guy to conjugate a verb.

  52. steelerfan9598 says: Jun 10, 2011 6:35 AM

    Those 3 may not be geniuses but, they are all pro football players and know a grossly overrated QB when they see one.

  53. duanethomas says: Jun 10, 2011 7:55 AM

    I agree. If he was saying this about Chad you guys would be commending him.

  54. abengalfan says: Jun 10, 2011 8:09 AM

    cincinnasti says:
    Jun 9, 2011 7:23 PM
    Damn straight! No one wants to be on a team with someone that gave up everything Carson is giving up. He basically had the front office on strings, had an excellent inflation based contract, and a city full of fans the believed in him. Damn you Carson Palmer, history will see you as the pansy that you are. Using the organization as a scapegoat for own failures.

    You haven’t followed this team long have you?

  55. hineswardcriesafterfumbling says: Jun 10, 2011 8:33 AM

    I think Jones’ comments are more for Mike Brown. Palmer doesn’t want to be in Cincy, so he couldn’t care less if Jones says damn him. Mike Brown needs to take notice that the team doesn’t want a quarterback that doesn’t want to be there. I know Jones has been an assclown, but really, is his-or Benson’s or Johnson’s-comment out of line? Seems pretty reasonable to me.

    Mike Brown, trade Carson Palmer. Trade him for a 7th round draft pick for all I care, at least he’d want to play for the Bengals.

  56. lucky5934 says: Jun 10, 2011 8:58 AM

    A Few thoughts come to mind…

    – Adam Jones “loves” Cincinnati because it is the only place that gave him a chance to continue playing in the NFL. He is lucky to be playing in the NFL. Period!

    – Carson doesn’t want to be there, hence the reason he is not there. No need for Jones to banish a guy from a team that he has already moved on from.

    – My have times have changed in Cincinnati… Carson is fed up with the drama and two of the NFL’s most well known criminals of the last decade are now the speaking for the team.

    – ABengalsFan, Did anyone ever stop to think that maybe Carson simply does not want to play for Marvin Lewis or Mike Brown anymore? Those two have allowed a circus to continue with Ocho and then made it worse by bringing Owens into the mix. Two people who were more worried about their reality shows than winning football games.

    – Finally, it saddens me to see people treat Carson like this. No, he is not a premier QB, but has always played hard, kept his mouth shut, and just wanted to win games. The Lion fans never treated Barry like this when he left, and that loss meant much more to their franchise. Sometimes, players just have enough of a situation or lose the passion for the game. I respect the fact the guy recognizes he is not able to or willing to give 100% and is giving the Bengals the opportunity to get something in return. If they don’t then that is on Mike Brown’s stubborness, not Palmer.

  57. flyinhighwithvick says: Jun 10, 2011 9:00 AM

    Damn straight yo….holla back youngen. I think that’s what the kids are saying now….

  58. winkeroni says: Jun 10, 2011 9:20 AM

    I can’t blame Carson Palmer for not wanting to play for the Bengals. I’m in no way a Bengals fan and I feel bad for those guys because Brown doesn’t know how to run a team. When I look at the Bengals I see a head coach, Marvin Lewis, that just doesn’t care much anymore and a roster full of guys with talent but not exactly winners.

  59. jackfnburton says: Jun 10, 2011 3:30 PM

    You tell em Pacman! A pox on him! Yea, verily!

    And of course you love Cincinnati. They’re the only team that would have you. I hope you don’t also love winning, because you aren’t going to be doing very much of THAT this year.

  60. backindasaddle says: Jun 10, 2011 9:18 PM

    Adam “Pacman” Jones, Cedric Benson & Tank Johnson.

    The Trilogy of Turdome. Yeah….I’m gonna put a lot of stock in their opinions. Morons like these should have their vocal chords removed.

  61. dlmcc1010 says: Jun 14, 2011 6:46 AM

    When one of the biggest turds in league history calls you out on your commitment to the team, chances are good that you’ve hit rock bottom.

    The fact that he was also called out by two other d-bags just makes the whole situation pretty funny. but I think its pretty obvious that Palmer will sit out the year. No one would trade a pack of Orbit gum for him anyway

  62. mrfrostyj says: Jun 14, 2011 11:41 AM

    Palmer was the best thing to happen to the Bengals in a long time so I can understsand Bengals fans not wanting to loose him but I can’t for the life of me understand Mike Brown letting him retire instead of doing what’s best for the team and getting something for him.

    Palmer is giving you a gift in his (what some call overrated) trade value right now on an off season when there are A LOT of teams looking and willing to overcompensate for vet QB’s. This isn’t Lebron James running the front office of a nieve team just to walk out on them for a better shot at a championship ring as soon as he became a free agent.

    As I’ve stated before. Mike Brown needs to follow suit with the owner of his dads original team and step down and let a more competant and football minded person run the show. Once I heard Warren Sapp’s story on NFL Total Axxess of how Brown offered him a contract to play in Cincy during his prime but took the offer back because Sapp returned his call at the wrong time that more then reafirmed my views that the Bengals are bad because of Brown and no other reason. Who knows how many other future hall of famers the Bengals have passed on because Mike likes to throw his weight around.

  63. 1historian says: Jun 15, 2011 2:32 PM

    He has stated that he doesn’t need the money, that he is financially set – he said that 5 months ago. (Such a problem to have.)

    Cincinnati is incompetent – every year. Now they have pacman jones as their (unofficial) spokesman – things ain’t gonna change too much.

    Carson – best of luck to you.

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