Framework for agreement could come in two weeks

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Though it’s still way too early to claim that the lockout is “over” or “almost over,” the signs of progress continue to emerge.

The latest?  Daniel Kaplan of SportsBusiness Journal reports that the the “expectation is for a framework agreement in about two weeks.”

Kaplan’s report meshes with other chatter we’re hearing.  None of it may mean much in isolation, but taken together it suggests that teams are now operating under the assumption that the full season — with preseason and training camp — will unfold as scheduled.

Though there’s still no specific reason to believe a settlement definitely will happen, the sense of optimism not only has lasted for well over a week but also has consistently grown.  Soon, conventional wisdom could be that the failure to do a deal will be a major upset.

52 responses to “Framework for agreement could come in two weeks

  1. OK I’m back…ty PFT for the positive reports!!! I went ahead and shelled out over $400 for my fantasy leagues and am starting to get revved up finally I had given up almost all hope

  2. Nice pic. They look like a couple of guys that are trying to work a large math problem without a calculator

  3. Two weeks until an agreement and already Bengals have been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs.

  4. Hey Mike, if the progress is good enough do you think the owners might end the lockout before all the i’s are dotted and t’s crossed?

  5. I’ll bet that within 2 weeks the teams will be back in bussiness as far as trades, signing players and comunicating with the players. But I would not expect that players will be working out at the facilities until the contract is signed.

  6. Maybe, just maybe, both sides realize they’ve got a really good thing going in the context of a crappy economy with record high unemployment. The owners are businessmen, you’d think they’d wake up and realize, that NFL or No NFL, the middle class goose is cooked regardless and they stand only to lose good will and revenue from fed up fans if they don’t reach an agreement. With fans nearly broke, it would be all too easy to spend on other things.

  7. Mike instead of wasting time on your epic college football piece that no one is waiting to read, give us the possible framework of how an agreement will look. Agree thumbs up.

  8. FinFan68 says:Jun 11, 2011 10:56 AM Nice pic. They look like a couple of guys that are trying to work a large math problem without a calculator

    Good call. That’s exactly what they are doing! Long division of $9bn. , with no remainder.

  9. Let’s not forget as Taxpayers, we the people fund directly or indirectly ALL NFL stadiums. I.e. Roads and infrastructure projects. No football games, NFL Owners (billionaires) and Players (millionaires) would needs to refund the USA taxpayers for all cost that have incurred so far. Life is not a free ride. Oh, unless your in the Top 2% in society. Then, your GOP government (the best government money buy) will take care of it for you. Somebody like the honorable Norman Brahman would fight for the have nots- the middle class and poor taxpayers. Then again, Mr. Brahman would get his dignity smeared by the wealthy establishment. So that might happen either.

  10. @ duanethomas

    You mean he should be doing actual journalism?

    Honestly, I wish he’d post less if that was what he was doing with his time. Blogging is easy. Journalism is hard.

  11. “could come in two weeks”???

    What kind of reporting is that? It COULD come in two weeks. It COULD come tomorrow. It COULD come a year from now. If I had it to do over, I’d become a sports pundit or a weatherman. You don’t have to know anything.

  12. I’m pretty sure the lockout can be lifted at any time. I mean the court didn’t lock the players out.

    If the lockout hasn’t been lifted now, with all this optimism, I find it hard to believe it’ll be lifted until all the t’s are crossed and the i’s are dotted.

  13. If anyone has read my comments over the last few weeks, you know that I’ve said that “We will have football by July 1st.”

    Remember the name – Michael Trenaro

  14. Two weeks until an agreement and already Bengals have been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs.

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    Best post of the Week!…LMAO!

  15. i believe good things happen when lawyers are absent from discussions. i wonder if lawyers would act the same if they got paid a flat fee? hmmmmmmm???

  16. @firemarshal1

    First of all, not all stadiums are built by the taxpayers. The Redskins stadium was completely funded by the owner at the time, Jack Kent Cooke. He wanted to build the stadium in Washington, but the DC govt tried to squeeze him for “special projects” (i.e. bribes). When he refused, they gave him the run around and bad mouthed him publicly.

    So he built the stadium in easier-to-bribe Maryland’s Prince George’s county.

    Currently, more than half the DC council is under investigation for bribery. So much for your liberal big government advantage. Give me big business instead everytime. If I owe big business money and I don’t pay, they send me nasty letters. If I owe government money and I don’t pay, they send a man with a badge and a gun to my house to arrest me and throw me in jail.

  17. If it does come, let’s not forget that Bill Burt of the Lawrence Eagle Tribune broke this story. Right now he’s being ridiculed, but if he turns out to be right, he will be due for a move to a major publication. Thyat’s how Will McDonough became the greatest sportswriter of the 20th century. He had inside info no one else had.

  18. Will you guys stop worrying? It was always apparent that this was mostly a rhetorical battle, and I think both sides have been fairly brilliant in their tactics. There will be football in 2011. I was sure when the players blinked during the draft, allowing Business As Usual.

  19. I wonder who said a deal will be reached on or about July 1st(give or take a couple of days)? before all of the sudden piggy back stories started appearing

  20. FinFan68 says:
    Jun 11, 2011 10:56 AM
    Nice pic. They look like a couple of guys that are trying to work a large math problem without a calculator
    _______________

    Actually, an interesting observation. The toughest part of solving a large math problem isn’t the caluclation, but rather setting up the solution properly.

  21. @ str82dvd

    If that’s the case, then why did it look like Goodell side with the owners? The reason there’s optimism now is because Goodell, the face of the league, doesn’t look like a PR flack for the owners anymore.

    For kajillionaires, they have an awful PR team.

  22. One more “bump-in-the-road” will be contracts for Drafted rookies. Wondering if ANY portion of same can be and is being worked on now by the player reps and teams?

  23. $1,600 for season tickets. Another $350+ for Sunday Ticket. Somebody better be entertaining me on Sunday’s in the fall other than a bunch of Neck’s hangin’ lefts!

  24. robertallen1958 says:
    Jun 11, 2011 11:50 AM
    @ duanethomas,
    your an idiot

    Robert it’s “you’re an idiot” not your.

    Keep in mind that the word your will never be followed by the words the, a, or an.

    Now who’s the idiot Bob?

  25. I am not saying that it is not going to happen, but I doubt it. At various times along the way, we have heard that progress is slowly being made, and then things just get worse.

    At least D. Smith has not made any “Godfather” remarks or declared war recently. But he also apparently has not made a counter offer or made concessions. Talk is cheap.

    Since D. Smith and Drew Brees prefer to litigate instead of negotiate, I believe that a lot depends on the 8th circuit.

    If the court upholds the lockout, even on an extended temporary basis, then D. Smith will get serious about making a deal because the players will tell him to either make a deal or hit the road.

    If the 8th circuit overturns the lockout, then D. Smith will not make a deal and the NFL will have to figure out what to do next, thus continuing this legal mess.

  26. So training camps start in about 44 days? 14 days to a “possible agreement”, leaving 30 days or less to:

    1. Start Free Agency
    2. Sign draft picks
    3. Sign undrafted players
    4. Get players in shape for pre-season games

    Expect teams to be ready for the season by week three at best. We will find out whose player organized workouts were helpful early. Expect a lot of hamstring pulls and minor injuries early.

    But it beats no football at all.

  27. Lets rememember that cincy did win the division in 09, advancing to the playoffs. How bout those Browns? Detroit? Houston? San Fran? Oakland? Theres a lot of teams that have been waiting for a playoff game longer than Cincy.

    Whodey

  28. I don’t know about overall, but once they hammer out a new deal between the players and the owners, I’m going to feel better about the direction of the country.

    Any direction without football is in Mad Max / Book of Eli, territory if you ask me…

  29. It’s about time!!! All everyone wants is football. Now we need to get this thing signed for a LONG term labor deal. None of this 2 or 3 year agreement crap. We don’t want to go through this again in a few years.

  30. FinFan68 says:Jun 11, 2011 10:56 AM

    Nice pic. They look like a couple of guys that are trying to work a large math problem without a calculator

    fin fan 78 that wa the funniest comment ive read

  31. It would be a shame if the new cba was not far off from the final offer the owners gave back in march. Either way, look for Demo to resign when this all over. Unless this next CBA comes out as a complete defeat of the owners (which I seriously doubt), Demo’s scorched earth approach negotiating will be considered a failure.

    And for the love of God, please write some language in the next CBA that specifically forbits the union from decertifying and going down this same path. I am all for the players getting a fair and reasonable deal, but in labor disputes, the owners card to to lock out employees, and the union’s card is to strike. Whereever the middle meets is called a CBA.

  32. @smacklayer: It’s far more likely that you will be fired from your stadium janitorial job once the CBA is signed than De Smith will resign from his position. Most of us will be glad to rid this forum of divisive shills like yourself once the league year begins and we can get back to actual football discussions. Football is something I feel certain you know little about.

  33. smacklayer says: Jun 11, 2011 1:53 PM

    And for the love of God, please write some language in the next CBA that specifically forbits the union from decertifying and going down this same path. I am all for the players getting a fair and reasonable deal, but in labor disputes, the owners card to to lock out employees, and the union’s card is to strike. Whereever the middle meets is called a CBA.
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    They dealt with decertification in the last CBA, but D. Smith and the union’s judge ignored the agreement. And there really is not much you can do when both one side and a judge ignore an agreement.

  34. I’ll believe it when it’s done and the players are back on the field with coaches.

    This is one fan who has all but lost interest, mostly out of disgust. If this optimism is warranted, it is just barely in time to keep me as a fan for this season and perhaps beyond. f they fail to get this done and July and August roll in without progress I am pretty much done. I won’t watch a partial season.

    This whole thing is just plain sad.

  35. “Two weeks until an agreement and already Bengals have been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs.”

    And the Vikes are fighting them for the first pick in the 2012 draft so they can pick another B grade QB to replace Ponder.

  36. @endzonezombie:

    Come on, can’t you address the issues instead of just trying to personally insult me? I don’t know you from a piece of sh*t, but honestly, trying to insult someone you don’t know in an anonymous forum?? I am sure you can do better than that. But if it makes you feel better, then go for it. But maybe you can grow up a little, and address the issues and contribute to the discussion.

  37. kire562000 says: Jun 11, 2011 1:17 PM

    So training camps start in about 44 days? 14 days to a “possible agreement”, leaving 30 days or less to:

    1. Start Free Agency
    2. Sign draft picks
    3. Sign undrafted players
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    Should make for a flurry of news during that 30 days… I wouldn’t complain!

  38. So when 2 weeks goes by and we have no agreement, will there be a PFT apology for their collective attitude?

    Nah, probably not, huh.

    We’ll just get more excuses, and more innuendo shots at us. Viva La PFT.

    This is who they are.

    Whenever the deal does get done (next year) there will be 2 weeks before it is done, so if they just keep saying that they’ll eventually be correct due to not intelligence but the law of averages; and claim it to be intelligence.

  39. i like how anyone who agrees with the owners or at least hope the cba lands somehwere nearer the middle of the road than the last one is obviously an employee for one of the teams. unlike the people who agree with the players who are obviously all very bright and intelligent people who have done all of their research. (sarcasm) i’m not saying one side is better than the other or that people who agree with the players are all stupid, but when you accuse everyone who agrees with the owners of being an employee of one of the teams you make all of the players’ supporters look like a bunch of idiots who don’t have anything better to say because they don’t know what’s going on. once again this isn’t directed toward all of the people who support the players, just the ones who constantly accuse supporters of the owners of being employees. c’mon people can we stick to the issues and actually contribute something to the conversation?

    I’ll believe they’re close to a new CBA when the two sides meet up to sign it.

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