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	<title>Comments on: Bills ban smoking at Ralph Wilson Stadium</title>
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		<title>By: thedizzypub</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is one of the dumbest things Stadiums, Ballparks and Arenas are doing to fans. As a smoker I have no problem going outside to smoke as I do not smoke in my own home. To not let fans in and out makes no sense. Went to a game at the Rogers Centre and went to go for a smoke of course no in and outs so I asked why? I was told that I could give my ticket to someone else..........WTF? Really? Who cares? The ticket is paid for so why does it matter if I give it to someone? So I left in the 3rd inning went to the Renassaince Hotel walked into Arriba restaurant sat down by the glass overlooking left field ordered a round of beers and a steak dinner and enjoyed the rest of the game drinking and eating for way cheaper then the $15 pints and $8 hotdogs they serve at the Dome! When I wanted a smoke I just walked outside and waltzed right back in with no attitude from some jerkoff security ticket taker! So thats were I go to watch all sporting events at the Dome. Me and a buddy went to the International Bowl their and watched Ray Rice put up 280 yards. Our bill for 16 beers and food was $110 for the day and we didnt have to buy a $65 ticket either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the dumbest things Stadiums, Ballparks and Arenas are doing to fans. As a smoker I have no problem going outside to smoke as I do not smoke in my own home. To not let fans in and out makes no sense. Went to a game at the Rogers Centre and went to go for a smoke of course no in and outs so I asked why? I was told that I could give my ticket to someone else&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.WTF? Really? Who cares? The ticket is paid for so why does it matter if I give it to someone? So I left in the 3rd inning went to the Renassaince Hotel walked into Arriba restaurant sat down by the glass overlooking left field ordered a round of beers and a steak dinner and enjoyed the rest of the game drinking and eating for way cheaper then the $15 pints and $8 hotdogs they serve at the Dome! When I wanted a smoke I just walked outside and waltzed right back in with no attitude from some jerkoff security ticket taker! So thats were I go to watch all sporting events at the Dome. Me and a buddy went to the International Bowl their and watched Ray Rice put up 280 yards. Our bill for 16 beers and food was $110 for the day and we didnt have to buy a $65 ticket either.</p>
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		<title>By: rabidbillsfan</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 03:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And to back that up with some facts, take a look at the Sabres, roughly 50k people complained about the opening theme to the pre_ game show, within a week it was replaced. The red stripe along the concourse? Gone. Goal song? Was cycled towards the end of the season. Those are facts.  Also, why the hell are there so many &quot;fin&quot; fans commenting on this?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And to back that up with some facts, take a look at the Sabres, roughly 50k people complained about the opening theme to the pre_ game show, within a week it was replaced. The red stripe along the concourse? Gone. Goal song? Was cycled towards the end of the season. Those are facts.  Also, why the hell are there so many &#8220;fin&#8221; fans commenting on this?</p>
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		<title>By: rabidbillsfan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rabidbillsfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 03:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@rwagner66

You could not be more wrong. This has NOTHING to do with money,nothing. The only way that would make sense, was if Ralph himself were to uproot the team and move it to Toronto. He gains absolutley nothing from this. The reason for the Toronto series was to spark international intrest, so when it came time to pass the torch, potential buyers from Canada would line up(as of now, no Wilson is in line to take over for the old man). Yes, tickets are more expensive in Canada, but so is everything else. Again, this ban is coming down, probaly, because of the amount of complaints that have been received over a period of time. The Bills #1 priority is the fan, and I doubt that they have had anybody complain about breathing too much fresh air.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@rwagner66</p>
<p>You could not be more wrong. This has NOTHING to do with money,nothing. The only way that would make sense, was if Ralph himself were to uproot the team and move it to Toronto. He gains absolutley nothing from this. The reason for the Toronto series was to spark international intrest, so when it came time to pass the torch, potential buyers from Canada would line up(as of now, no Wilson is in line to take over for the old man). Yes, tickets are more expensive in Canada, but so is everything else. Again, this ban is coming down, probaly, because of the amount of complaints that have been received over a period of time. The Bills #1 priority is the fan, and I doubt that they have had anybody complain about breathing too much fresh air.</p>
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		<title>By: graidernation</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 00:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I work in a hospital and am still amazed by the number of people in their fifties who are in for smoking related problems.  If you smoke and want to kill yourself, I&#039;m fine with it.  It pays my salary, but don&#039;t take everyone else with you.  I have seen my share of spouses who never smoked but was married to one, and they were tethered to oxygen.  I started in an oncology unit and it was an eye opener to see the number of patients dealing with lung cancer. And yes, I know most smokers don&#039;t get lung cancer, but why take the chance.  I mainly dislike smokers because they disregard what a decent human being won&#039;t do.  They litter sidewalks, lawns, parking lots, etc... with cigarette butts.  I ride a motorcycle and have almost been hit by inconsiderate smokers throwing lit butts out the window.  I sincerely hope they raise the cigarette tax more to pay for the increased hospitalization smokers require.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work in a hospital and am still amazed by the number of people in their fifties who are in for smoking related problems.  If you smoke and want to kill yourself, I&#8217;m fine with it.  It pays my salary, but don&#8217;t take everyone else with you.  I have seen my share of spouses who never smoked but was married to one, and they were tethered to oxygen.  I started in an oncology unit and it was an eye opener to see the number of patients dealing with lung cancer. And yes, I know most smokers don&#8217;t get lung cancer, but why take the chance.  I mainly dislike smokers because they disregard what a decent human being won&#8217;t do.  They litter sidewalks, lawns, parking lots, etc&#8230; with cigarette butts.  I ride a motorcycle and have almost been hit by inconsiderate smokers throwing lit butts out the window.  I sincerely hope they raise the cigarette tax more to pay for the increased hospitalization smokers require.</p>
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		<title>By: jpmelon</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thats outrageous. First of all, everyone inside ralph wilson stadium smells like a forest fire from all the burning charcoal outside. Second, the smoking sections outside did not bother any rational person.

I&#039;m not a smoker, and I hate this policy. An obese person who needs to take more than one chair is more annoying than a smoker. So if you want to discriminate against a group of people because its bad for their health and annoying to others, why not kick out the fat people while they&#039;re at it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats outrageous. First of all, everyone inside ralph wilson stadium smells like a forest fire from all the burning charcoal outside. Second, the smoking sections outside did not bother any rational person.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a smoker, and I hate this policy. An obese person who needs to take more than one chair is more annoying than a smoker. So if you want to discriminate against a group of people because its bad for their health and annoying to others, why not kick out the fat people while they&#8217;re at it?</p>
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		<title>By: rwagner66</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rwagner66]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem is smoking doesn&#039;t provide &lt;b&gt;revenue&lt;/b&gt;, like beer and junk food. If it did, they would hold specials to attract more smokers. Buy one seat in the smoking section, get one free. BUY NOW!

The Bills want to move to Toronto, solely to &lt;b&gt;make more money&lt;/b&gt;. Although most home games in Buffalo are sold out, average ticket price is only $50. They could get $150-175 in Canada. For the last five years, they have been testing the waters by playing one or two home games in Toronto. It&#039;s called the American Football League. What could be more American then moving offshore to make money?

Outsourcing, that&#039;s what. They should contract game playing to a team from China. If it doesn&#039;t perform, fire the whole team by not renewing its contract, which works better than firing the coach. IBM and Microsoft do it all the time. It&#039;s the American way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is smoking doesn&#8217;t provide <b>revenue</b>, like beer and junk food. If it did, they would hold specials to attract more smokers. Buy one seat in the smoking section, get one free. BUY NOW!</p>
<p>The Bills want to move to Toronto, solely to <b>make more money</b>. Although most home games in Buffalo are sold out, average ticket price is only $50. They could get $150-175 in Canada. For the last five years, they have been testing the waters by playing one or two home games in Toronto. It&#8217;s called the American Football League. What could be more American then moving offshore to make money?</p>
<p>Outsourcing, that&#8217;s what. They should contract game playing to a team from China. If it doesn&#8217;t perform, fire the whole team by not renewing its contract, which works better than firing the coach. IBM and Microsoft do it all the time. It&#8217;s the American way.</p>
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		<title>By: bjbroderick</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@RabidBillsFan

Again, you are asserting your opinion as scientific fact. If someone is smoking in your actual seating section, they should be tossed immediately. The smoking areas are not in the seating areas, they would be near the outside by the concourse area. Far from the seats. If you are saying that the smoke is blowing in from those places, then you need to be sniffing out bombs at the airport. 

Lots of outdoor stadiums have banned smoking inside the stadium. But they either A. Have a cordoned off area far away from seating, or B. Allow you to step outside the stadium and smoke on the street, and reenter. How is that not fair for a non smoker? 

Face it. You are just a damn crybaby. And crybabies get their way in this country. 

When the Bills move to Toronto, I will enjoy their new policies!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@RabidBillsFan</p>
<p>Again, you are asserting your opinion as scientific fact. If someone is smoking in your actual seating section, they should be tossed immediately. The smoking areas are not in the seating areas, they would be near the outside by the concourse area. Far from the seats. If you are saying that the smoke is blowing in from those places, then you need to be sniffing out bombs at the airport. </p>
<p>Lots of outdoor stadiums have banned smoking inside the stadium. But they either A. Have a cordoned off area far away from seating, or B. Allow you to step outside the stadium and smoke on the street, and reenter. How is that not fair for a non smoker? </p>
<p>Face it. You are just a damn crybaby. And crybabies get their way in this country. </p>
<p>When the Bills move to Toronto, I will enjoy their new policies!</p>
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		<title>By: finsbooyah</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me preface this by saying I hang out with a lot of smokers.

I love how so many of you are calling smokers &quot;whiny&quot; when your main arguments are &quot;it smells gross and I don&#039;t want to smell it&quot;, and &quot;I paid to come to the game and I don&#039;t want it around me&quot;.. Wah Wah Wah.  You sound like a child who needs their mother to make the big bad bully go away.  Americans have really become a bunch of wimps.

Also, the whole &quot;it causes cancer&quot; thing is the biggest load of crap I&#039;ve ever heard.  News Flash *Sitting next to a smoker in an outdoor arena will not give you cancer&quot;.  You have a better chance of getting cancer from the sun shining on you during the game.

Many of you have also said that it&#039;s a private business and they have the right to ban smoking.  Now that&#039;s something I can agree with, except that&#039;s not how you really feel.  You&#039;re the same morons who lobbied to get smoking banned in bars and all other public indoor places.  Those are private businesses, but the government won&#039;t give those owners the right to allow their patrons to smoke.  That&#039;s called hypocrisy my friends.  If you wanted to go to a non-smoking bar than open a non-smoking bar.

Cigarettes are perfectly legal and harmless to a non-smoker unless they are stuck in a small smoke filled room.  The Anti-Smoking lobby not only baffles me, but it strikes me as UnAmerican. You people need to start worrying about your own lives and not what&#039;s going on around you.  You really just come off as a bunch of whiny, entitled, babies.

By the way (and I know I&#039;m going to get killed for saying this) there is NO conclusive scientific proof that second hand smoke causes cancer.  It&#039;s just assumed that it does and it probably could (everything causes cancer nowadays) but people keep referencing that as if it&#039;s a fact, but it&#039;s not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me preface this by saying I hang out with a lot of smokers.</p>
<p>I love how so many of you are calling smokers &#8220;whiny&#8221; when your main arguments are &#8220;it smells gross and I don&#8217;t want to smell it&#8221;, and &#8220;I paid to come to the game and I don&#8217;t want it around me&#8221;.. Wah Wah Wah.  You sound like a child who needs their mother to make the big bad bully go away.  Americans have really become a bunch of wimps.</p>
<p>Also, the whole &#8220;it causes cancer&#8221; thing is the biggest load of crap I&#8217;ve ever heard.  News Flash *Sitting next to a smoker in an outdoor arena will not give you cancer&#8221;.  You have a better chance of getting cancer from the sun shining on you during the game.</p>
<p>Many of you have also said that it&#8217;s a private business and they have the right to ban smoking.  Now that&#8217;s something I can agree with, except that&#8217;s not how you really feel.  You&#8217;re the same morons who lobbied to get smoking banned in bars and all other public indoor places.  Those are private businesses, but the government won&#8217;t give those owners the right to allow their patrons to smoke.  That&#8217;s called hypocrisy my friends.  If you wanted to go to a non-smoking bar than open a non-smoking bar.</p>
<p>Cigarettes are perfectly legal and harmless to a non-smoker unless they are stuck in a small smoke filled room.  The Anti-Smoking lobby not only baffles me, but it strikes me as UnAmerican. You people need to start worrying about your own lives and not what&#8217;s going on around you.  You really just come off as a bunch of whiny, entitled, babies.</p>
<p>By the way (and I know I&#8217;m going to get killed for saying this) there is NO conclusive scientific proof that second hand smoke causes cancer.  It&#8217;s just assumed that it does and it probably could (everything causes cancer nowadays) but people keep referencing that as if it&#8217;s a fact, but it&#8217;s not.</p>
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		<title>By: rabidbillsfan</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s the deal. First off, my facts above are not refrenced, however the way a stadium is structurally designed, that is what happens. The reason they are banning it all together, is to eliminate all complaints. If you assign a certain seating area, and it fill&#039;s, what are the ones who get snubbed supposed to do? Now look at the other way, what if a Non-smoker prefers the seats they assign as the smoking section? Also, If they allow &quot;Smokers-Only&quot; to exit and Re-enter, that&#039;s not fair to the Non-Smoker. If they institute a complete Ban, they can avoid all the hassle of these issues. Not everybody is going to be happy, but atleast they instituted a rule to benfit the masses, and not the minority.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the deal. First off, my facts above are not refrenced, however the way a stadium is structurally designed, that is what happens. The reason they are banning it all together, is to eliminate all complaints. If you assign a certain seating area, and it fill&#8217;s, what are the ones who get snubbed supposed to do? Now look at the other way, what if a Non-smoker prefers the seats they assign as the smoking section? Also, If they allow &#8220;Smokers-Only&#8221; to exit and Re-enter, that&#8217;s not fair to the Non-Smoker. If they institute a complete Ban, they can avoid all the hassle of these issues. Not everybody is going to be happy, but atleast they instituted a rule to benfit the masses, and not the minority.</p>
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		<title>By: rcali</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So it&#039;s a &quot;fan friendly&quot; stadium now except for the people who smoke and can&#039;t even leave the stadium to do so?  Wait till the ban on selling beer starts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it&#8217;s a &#8220;fan friendly&#8221; stadium now except for the people who smoke and can&#8217;t even leave the stadium to do so?  Wait till the ban on selling beer starts.</p>
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		<title>By: benh999</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MichaelEdits,
My sentiments exactly. One would think they would try to provide an incentive to go to games.

Given that the national smoking rate is about 20%, it is hardly a stretch to think that among a blue collar demographic like upstate NY football fans, it is substantially higher. The whole thing is just lame.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MichaelEdits,<br />
My sentiments exactly. One would think they would try to provide an incentive to go to games.</p>
<p>Given that the national smoking rate is about 20%, it is hardly a stretch to think that among a blue collar demographic like upstate NY football fans, it is substantially higher. The whole thing is just lame.</p>
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		<title>By: capslockkey</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I used to smoke, and even if I still did I wouldn&#039;t have much of a problem with this.  You can go 3-4 hours without having a cigarette.  If you can&#039;t, then how do you make it through a work day where you have to go about the same amount of time between breaks?

Up until I quit I would go out to the designated area at halftime to light up, but mostly because I was bored, not because I was Jonesing so badly.  If you need your nicotine that badly, get an Electronic Cigarette and smoke wherever the hell you want.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to smoke, and even if I still did I wouldn&#8217;t have much of a problem with this.  You can go 3-4 hours without having a cigarette.  If you can&#8217;t, then how do you make it through a work day where you have to go about the same amount of time between breaks?</p>
<p>Up until I quit I would go out to the designated area at halftime to light up, but mostly because I was bored, not because I was Jonesing so badly.  If you need your nicotine that badly, get an Electronic Cigarette and smoke wherever the hell you want.</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelEdits</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MichaelEdits]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why not? They banned winning years ago.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not? They banned winning years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: FinFan68</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FinFan68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The entire debate is absurd. Many complain that the smokers don&#039;t deserve the ability to go OUTSIDE to a designated area to have a cigarette. Why not? Because you don&#039;t want them to and your desires should hold more weight than theirs? Comments such as &quot;if you can’t go a few hours without a cigarette, you need serious help&quot; are myopic at best. Why not remove the bathrooms at the stadiums then? If you can&#039;t go 3 hours without taking a piss... Sounds equally absurd but uses the exact same logic.

The people that break the rules should be ejected from the premises. No warnings, no exceptions. Light up in the stands/bathrooms/hallways and you&#039;re gone. Not hard at all. 

A designated area does not impinge on anybody&#039;s rights. As other posters have said, this is a slippery slope and it will not stop there although that is more an issue from a gov&#039;t/tax standpoint than an individual company&#039;s preference. Today it&#039;s smokers, tomorrow, drinkers, next &quot;fat people&quot;, after that...&quot;health nuts&quot; should start worrying that a convenience tax will be bestowed upon that little bottle of water that they depend on so much so there is never one out of arm&#039;s reach. 

For everybody saying stuff like second hand smoke causes cancer, etc. that&#039;s true, but what are the parameters? Do you even know, or do you just parrot the common knowledge general conclusion without any knowledge of the circumstances that brought it about? Anything consumed in mass quantities can kill you. The fact is second hand smoke can cause cancer but the exposure amount necessary is never mentioned by the anti-smoking folks because it makes their argument sound less genuine or convincing. You are more likely to be affected by the volume of noxious material emitted by the cars in the traffic jam to get out of the stadium than you would by standing in an outside designated smoking area for the duration of the game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The entire debate is absurd. Many complain that the smokers don&#8217;t deserve the ability to go OUTSIDE to a designated area to have a cigarette. Why not? Because you don&#8217;t want them to and your desires should hold more weight than theirs? Comments such as &#8220;if you can’t go a few hours without a cigarette, you need serious help&#8221; are myopic at best. Why not remove the bathrooms at the stadiums then? If you can&#8217;t go 3 hours without taking a piss&#8230; Sounds equally absurd but uses the exact same logic.</p>
<p>The people that break the rules should be ejected from the premises. No warnings, no exceptions. Light up in the stands/bathrooms/hallways and you&#8217;re gone. Not hard at all. </p>
<p>A designated area does not impinge on anybody&#8217;s rights. As other posters have said, this is a slippery slope and it will not stop there although that is more an issue from a gov&#8217;t/tax standpoint than an individual company&#8217;s preference. Today it&#8217;s smokers, tomorrow, drinkers, next &#8220;fat people&#8221;, after that&#8230;&#8221;health nuts&#8221; should start worrying that a convenience tax will be bestowed upon that little bottle of water that they depend on so much so there is never one out of arm&#8217;s reach. </p>
<p>For everybody saying stuff like second hand smoke causes cancer, etc. that&#8217;s true, but what are the parameters? Do you even know, or do you just parrot the common knowledge general conclusion without any knowledge of the circumstances that brought it about? Anything consumed in mass quantities can kill you. The fact is second hand smoke can cause cancer but the exposure amount necessary is never mentioned by the anti-smoking folks because it makes their argument sound less genuine or convincing. You are more likely to be affected by the volume of noxious material emitted by the cars in the traffic jam to get out of the stadium than you would by standing in an outside designated smoking area for the duration of the game.</p>
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		<title>By: bjbroderick</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@rabidbillsfan

Could we have a link to that totally made up fact? The 75 percent air recirculation? It&#039;s probably somewhere on a page with a hockey stick graph.

100 percent of people that post statistics are not scientists.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@rabidbillsfan</p>
<p>Could we have a link to that totally made up fact? The 75 percent air recirculation? It&#8217;s probably somewhere on a page with a hockey stick graph.</p>
<p>100 percent of people that post statistics are not scientists.</p>
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		<title>By: b1unt3d</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Cologne doesn’t give you cancer.&quot;



But diesel fumes do.. and so does the sun.. everything in moderation. Smoking is stinky and disgusting, but smelling it for a second isn&#039;t going to hurt you.

I quit smoking about 5 years ago now, and I still can&#039;t stand the ridiculously overzealous anti-smoking lobby.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Cologne doesn’t give you cancer.&#8221;</p>
<p>But diesel fumes do.. and so does the sun.. everything in moderation. Smoking is stinky and disgusting, but smelling it for a second isn&#8217;t going to hurt you.</p>
<p>I quit smoking about 5 years ago now, and I still can&#8217;t stand the ridiculously overzealous anti-smoking lobby.</p>
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		<title>By: rabidbillsfan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rabidbillsfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m suprised this wasn&#039;t put through sooner. Yes, you are outside, but the way the Stadium is designed, 75%of all air inside the bowl circulates for an entire game. Therefore, a smoker sitting in the 300 section near Endzone A, will affect(although minimal) a non-smoker sitting in the 100 section of Endzone B. Either way, when I go to a game, I paid good money to sit there and enjoy the game, not be &quot;smoked&quot; out of my seats. It&#039;s not so much that it&#039;s a health risk, but it&#039;s annoying and is total disrespect for the people around you. The team is smart too. Is all it takes is for one smoker in a non-smoking section to set off an asthma attack, then it&#039;s money down the tubes from there. Id rather fend off a few drunks, then to be forced to cough up a lung any day of the week.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m suprised this wasn&#8217;t put through sooner. Yes, you are outside, but the way the Stadium is designed, 75%of all air inside the bowl circulates for an entire game. Therefore, a smoker sitting in the 300 section near Endzone A, will affect(although minimal) a non-smoker sitting in the 100 section of Endzone B. Either way, when I go to a game, I paid good money to sit there and enjoy the game, not be &#8220;smoked&#8221; out of my seats. It&#8217;s not so much that it&#8217;s a health risk, but it&#8217;s annoying and is total disrespect for the people around you. The team is smart too. Is all it takes is for one smoker in a non-smoking section to set off an asthma attack, then it&#8217;s money down the tubes from there. Id rather fend off a few drunks, then to be forced to cough up a lung any day of the week.</p>
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		<title>By: bigdan7885</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/bills-ban-smoking-at-ralph-wilson-stadium/#comment-1096931</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigdan7885]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Legalize it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Legalize it.</p>
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		<title>By: georgeanderson2</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/bills-ban-smoking-at-ralph-wilson-stadium/#comment-1096930</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[georgeanderson2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ban alcohol sales because of the irresponsible patrons who get blackedout drunk and kill people on their way home from games, just like in Miami when the guy killed the father and daughter and his only response was, at least the Dolpins won.

Ban cell phone use because it can cause cancer.

Ban select types of food because they can lead to obesity which can be linked to heart disease.

Smokers have accepted the designated areas, it is the morons who smoke wherever they want that ruin the experience. If the minimum wage gameday employees the team hires did more than just stand there and enforced the rules by kicking those people out, we could all attend games in harmony.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ban alcohol sales because of the irresponsible patrons who get blackedout drunk and kill people on their way home from games, just like in Miami when the guy killed the father and daughter and his only response was, at least the Dolpins won.</p>
<p>Ban cell phone use because it can cause cancer.</p>
<p>Ban select types of food because they can lead to obesity which can be linked to heart disease.</p>
<p>Smokers have accepted the designated areas, it is the morons who smoke wherever they want that ruin the experience. If the minimum wage gameday employees the team hires did more than just stand there and enforced the rules by kicking those people out, we could all attend games in harmony.</p>
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		<title>By: wferg1121</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wferg1121]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who cares?!!  The Bills will be moving to Canada anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares?!!  The Bills will be moving to Canada anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: philgrek</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/bills-ban-smoking-at-ralph-wilson-stadium/#comment-1096917</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[philgrek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@leonitas21    How you came to assume I&#039;m married based on the fact that I can&#039;t stand whiney smokers is beyond me. I&#039;d love to meet someone like you face to face too, because your logic is moronic and I doubt you could actually hold any part of an intelligent conversation. Any person with as little will power as to have a significant problem with being asked to go mere hours without a cigarette is a sad piece of humanity. I suspect that you are one of these people given your suggestion that I &quot;grow a pair&quot; in order to support other&#039;s stupid habits. How about you and other addicts grow a pair, man up, and stop whining about how many cigarettes you get to smoke and where you get to smoke them. If you&#039;re at a NFL game and one of your biggest concerns is where you get to have a cigarette, your priorities are pathetic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@leonitas21    How you came to assume I&#8217;m married based on the fact that I can&#8217;t stand whiney smokers is beyond me. I&#8217;d love to meet someone like you face to face too, because your logic is moronic and I doubt you could actually hold any part of an intelligent conversation. Any person with as little will power as to have a significant problem with being asked to go mere hours without a cigarette is a sad piece of humanity. I suspect that you are one of these people given your suggestion that I &#8220;grow a pair&#8221; in order to support other&#8217;s stupid habits. How about you and other addicts grow a pair, man up, and stop whining about how many cigarettes you get to smoke and where you get to smoke them. If you&#8217;re at a NFL game and one of your biggest concerns is where you get to have a cigarette, your priorities are pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: rolandsloan</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/bills-ban-smoking-at-ralph-wilson-stadium/#comment-1096905</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rolandsloan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The NFL will never ban beer drinking at the stadiums. Bud and Coors are &quot;partners&quot; of the NFL and other brewers advertise on the NFL&#039;s network &quot;partners&quot;. A huge chunk of that $9bil
that&#039;s always talked about is beer money! Can&#039;t
kill the Golden Goose...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NFL will never ban beer drinking at the stadiums. Bud and Coors are &#8220;partners&#8221; of the NFL and other brewers advertise on the NFL&#8217;s network &#8220;partners&#8221;. A huge chunk of that $9bil<br />
that&#8217;s always talked about is beer money! Can&#8217;t<br />
kill the Golden Goose&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: fldmar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fldmar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just get the E-cig and smoke in the stadium. Then see what the ownership does.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just get the E-cig and smoke in the stadium. Then see what the ownership does.</p>
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		<title>By: beyond2k</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/bills-ban-smoking-at-ralph-wilson-stadium/#comment-1096900</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[beyond2k]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mase7286 says: 
Jun 15, 2011 8:14 AM 
As if the bills didnt have enough issues with keeping their limited fan base


Get your facts straight. The Bills don&#039;t have &quot;a limited fan base&quot;. They consistantly sell out games and are one of the only small market teams that do. They are always the highest rated program in the time slot on TV when the games are shown in this area. When the stadium was an 80,000 seat stadium they did the same. Buffalo Bills fans are very die hard  fans. Even with the poor seasons we have had, the fans still pull through with sell outs at the stadium. 

So mase7286, don&#039;t talk shi* about what you have no clue about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mase7286 says:<br />
Jun 15, 2011 8:14 AM<br />
As if the bills didnt have enough issues with keeping their limited fan base</p>
<p>Get your facts straight. The Bills don&#8217;t have &#8220;a limited fan base&#8221;. They consistantly sell out games and are one of the only small market teams that do. They are always the highest rated program in the time slot on TV when the games are shown in this area. When the stadium was an 80,000 seat stadium they did the same. Buffalo Bills fans are very die hard  fans. Even with the poor seasons we have had, the fans still pull through with sell outs at the stadium. </p>
<p>So mase7286, don&#8217;t talk shi* about what you have no clue about.</p>
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		<title>By: lennydpocketqb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lennydpocketqb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just getting the team ready for LA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just getting the team ready for LA.</p>
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		<title>By: hiflyer1</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/bills-ban-smoking-at-ralph-wilson-stadium/#comment-1096875</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiflyer1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HEY look, if the owners could ban ur bringing in cigarettes, like they do beer.  then they would charge u 6.00 a cig and u could smoke where ever you wanted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HEY look, if the owners could ban ur bringing in cigarettes, like they do beer.  then they would charge u 6.00 a cig and u could smoke where ever you wanted.</p>
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		<title>By: killxswitch</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can they ban sucking, too?  I doubt it would work but they might as well try it since more traditional means like drafting new players and changing coaches hasn&#039;t worked.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can they ban sucking, too?  I doubt it would work but they might as well try it since more traditional means like drafting new players and changing coaches hasn&#8217;t worked.</p>
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		<title>By: patswhatsup</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[patswhatsup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All I can say, as a former smoker, if you take away the small designated smoking areas then those smokers are going to me more angry than those crazy alcoholics!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I can say, as a former smoker, if you take away the small designated smoking areas then those smokers are going to me more angry than those crazy alcoholics!!</p>
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		<title>By: schmitty2</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[schmitty2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Next the Bills will ban Pinto Ron because his car emits too many noxious fumes]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next the Bills will ban Pinto Ron because his car emits too many noxious fumes</p>
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		<title>By: tomcous</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/bills-ban-smoking-at-ralph-wilson-stadium/#comment-1096855</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tomcous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a non-smoker who would NOT be opposed to an outdoor --- outside the venue --- designated smoking area.

The real issue seems to be that the designated areas may not be strictly enforced so they&#039;ve decided to cut the cord all together. 

Everyone has rights ... and if an outdoor section could be enforced properly then it should be ...

Smokers take note, because I believe those that have taken liberties outside the designated areas have cost you this!

HOWEVER ...
Give the smokers their nicotine fix and enforce the Zero-Tolerance within the nicotine free zones!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a non-smoker who would NOT be opposed to an outdoor &#8212; outside the venue &#8212; designated smoking area.</p>
<p>The real issue seems to be that the designated areas may not be strictly enforced so they&#8217;ve decided to cut the cord all together. </p>
<p>Everyone has rights &#8230; and if an outdoor section could be enforced properly then it should be &#8230;</p>
<p>Smokers take note, because I believe those that have taken liberties outside the designated areas have cost you this!</p>
<p>HOWEVER &#8230;<br />
Give the smokers their nicotine fix and enforce the Zero-Tolerance within the nicotine free zones!</p>
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