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		<title>By: lionglass</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/the-lawyers-get-the-boot-again/#comment-1097638</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lionglass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@MichaelEdits, no one gets killed in &quot;Much Ado About Nothing&quot;, though there was a fake death and funeral.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MichaelEdits, no one gets killed in &#8220;Much Ado About Nothing&#8221;, though there was a fake death and funeral.</p>
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		<title>By: canjura</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/the-lawyers-get-the-boot-again/#comment-1097512</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[canjura]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder where the NFLPA and the NFL owners are getting these ambulance chasers. These lawyers obviously don&#039;t want to get anything done because all they do is mess sh** up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder where the NFLPA and the NFL owners are getting these ambulance chasers. These lawyers obviously don&#8217;t want to get anything done because all they do is mess sh** up.</p>
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		<title>By: mattyc</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/the-lawyers-get-the-boot-again/#comment-1097499</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mattyc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank god.... Common sense is beginning to prevail! Common sense tells us fans that the relationship of both sides seems to be bonding with the pitbulls out of the room, get new ones to negotiate a deal. These guys are too deep into their own agendas to do this properly!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank god&#8230;. Common sense is beginning to prevail! Common sense tells us fans that the relationship of both sides seems to be bonding with the pitbulls out of the room, get new ones to negotiate a deal. These guys are too deep into their own agendas to do this properly!</p>
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		<title>By: bearskoolaid1985</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/the-lawyers-get-the-boot-again/#comment-1097402</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bearskoolaid1985]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This goes to show that Kessler (The NFL hating lawyer) has his own agenda. And that is he wants to be the guy who killed the game of football. The game we all love just the way it is.
So NFL FAN&#039;s beware not to bend over for Kessler (The NFL hating lawyer) wants to shove it you know where.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This goes to show that Kessler (The NFL hating lawyer) has his own agenda. And that is he wants to be the guy who killed the game of football. The game we all love just the way it is.<br />
So NFL FAN&#8217;s beware not to bend over for Kessler (The NFL hating lawyer) wants to shove it you know where.</p>
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		<title>By: jcg23</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/the-lawyers-get-the-boot-again/#comment-1097391</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jcg23]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lawyers screw up everything.  They can take an amicable separation of a marriage and make folks completely hate each other by the end.  I can totally see how they are screwing up the negotiations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lawyers screw up everything.  They can take an amicable separation of a marriage and make folks completely hate each other by the end.  I can totally see how they are screwing up the negotiations.</p>
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		<title>By: boblavoie</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/the-lawyers-get-the-boot-again/#comment-1097364</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[boblavoie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mwraven,
Why can&#039;t I find a lawyer like you???]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mwraven,<br />
Why can&#8217;t I find a lawyer like you???</p>
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		<title>By: andrewfbrowne</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/the-lawyers-get-the-boot-again/#comment-1097233</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[andrewfbrowne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People hate on unions for working to &#039;not kill the job&#039; so they keep on getting paid for as long as possible, I just realized that is what lawyers do with Billable hours.  Every one of my dealings in my business that invloves lawyers takes an average of five to ten times longer.  They just make it harder and longer, so they do not &#039;kill the job.&#039;

Email after email about the same thing over and over and over again, so they can keep ringing the cash register.

I never thought I would be making a comparison between the worst traits of unions and attorneys but it fits.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People hate on unions for working to &#8216;not kill the job&#8217; so they keep on getting paid for as long as possible, I just realized that is what lawyers do with Billable hours.  Every one of my dealings in my business that invloves lawyers takes an average of five to ten times longer.  They just make it harder and longer, so they do not &#8216;kill the job.&#8217;</p>
<p>Email after email about the same thing over and over and over again, so they can keep ringing the cash register.</p>
<p>I never thought I would be making a comparison between the worst traits of unions and attorneys but it fits.</p>
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		<title>By: ravenschick</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/the-lawyers-get-the-boot-again/#comment-1097230</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ravenschick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And the NFLPA* needs to hire quirtevans!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the NFLPA* needs to hire quirtevans!</p>
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		<title>By: derekjetersmansion</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/the-lawyers-get-the-boot-again/#comment-1097229</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[derekjetersmansion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ bronco1st 

I think De told them to shut up, not leave the room.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ bronco1st </p>
<p>I think De told them to shut up, not leave the room.</p>
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		<title>By: BernardPollardIsAnAss</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/the-lawyers-get-the-boot-again/#comment-1097227</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BernardPollardIsAnAss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is so ridiculous.  Lawyers work for their clients.  They are required to follow the wishes of their clients per the ethics rules.  While there may be disagreements about strategy, the end objective is always determined by the client as long as it does not conflict with other ethics rules.  To make these guys (and all lawyers) out to be these out of control rabid dogs is just plain silly.  Hell, De Smith is one of the worst and now that he is reportedly all smiles we just don&#039;t talk about him anymore?  Give me a break.  How gullible are you people?  This is all just part of the lame ass show.  It&#039;s called &quot;good cop, bad cop&quot; dummies.  Shut up and play football.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so ridiculous.  Lawyers work for their clients.  They are required to follow the wishes of their clients per the ethics rules.  While there may be disagreements about strategy, the end objective is always determined by the client as long as it does not conflict with other ethics rules.  To make these guys (and all lawyers) out to be these out of control rabid dogs is just plain silly.  Hell, De Smith is one of the worst and now that he is reportedly all smiles we just don&#8217;t talk about him anymore?  Give me a break.  How gullible are you people?  This is all just part of the lame ass show.  It&#8217;s called &#8220;good cop, bad cop&#8221; dummies.  Shut up and play football.</p>
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		<title>By: ravenschick</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/the-lawyers-get-the-boot-again/#comment-1097224</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ravenschick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the NFL needs to hire mswravens!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the NFL needs to hire mswravens!</p>
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		<title>By: curmudgist</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/the-lawyers-get-the-boot-again/#comment-1097197</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[curmudgist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If lawyers got paid per task instead of by how much of everyone&#039;s time they waste, two-thirds of the world would run smoother. Why do you pay people who obstruct your progress? Why do you do that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If lawyers got paid per task instead of by how much of everyone&#8217;s time they waste, two-thirds of the world would run smoother. Why do you pay people who obstruct your progress? Why do you do that?</p>
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		<title>By: thefiesty1</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/the-lawyers-get-the-boot-again/#comment-1097186</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thefiesty1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Keep them all out of it.  Isn&#039;t DeMo supposed to be a lawyer?  Kick him out immediately.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep them all out of it.  Isn&#8217;t DeMo supposed to be a lawyer?  Kick him out immediately.</p>
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		<title>By: bobwhitequail</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/the-lawyers-get-the-boot-again/#comment-1097172</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bobwhitequail]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;willycents says:Jun 15, 2011 12:57 PM 

...= $15B+ award. 30% to attorneys = $5B+ split to attorneys...&quot;

Totally agree and that totally explains Kessler&#039;s attack, attack, attack (don&#039;t negotiate) policy we have seen up until the lawyers were kicked out.

The only thing I would add is that Kessler is also making millions right now, even if they don&#039;t win an anti-trust suit.  In 1998 he told Larry Kennan the cost of such a suit would be $3 million.  Who knows how much it would be now, 13 years later.  We do know that Kessler has made $25 million from 2006-2010:

&quot;Kessler’s payoff is considerable — according to documents filed with the Department of Labor, Kessler’s law firm, Dewey &amp; LeBoeuf, was paid more than $25 million for representing the N.F.L. Players Association from 2006 through 2010. More than $11 million of that was termed “C.B.A. Matters,” even before negotiations on a new collective bargaining agreement hit full stride this year. &quot;

from NY times article &quot;N.F.L. Players Put Faith in Lawyer’s Bold Move&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;willycents says:Jun 15, 2011 12:57 PM </p>
<p>&#8230;= $15B+ award. 30% to attorneys = $5B+ split to attorneys&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Totally agree and that totally explains Kessler&#8217;s attack, attack, attack (don&#8217;t negotiate) policy we have seen up until the lawyers were kicked out.</p>
<p>The only thing I would add is that Kessler is also making millions right now, even if they don&#8217;t win an anti-trust suit.  In 1998 he told Larry Kennan the cost of such a suit would be $3 million.  Who knows how much it would be now, 13 years later.  We do know that Kessler has made $25 million from 2006-2010:</p>
<p>&#8220;Kessler’s payoff is considerable — according to documents filed with the Department of Labor, Kessler’s law firm, Dewey &amp; LeBoeuf, was paid more than $25 million for representing the N.F.L. Players Association from 2006 through 2010. More than $11 million of that was termed “C.B.A. Matters,” even before negotiations on a new collective bargaining agreement hit full stride this year. &#8221;</p>
<p>from NY times article &#8220;N.F.L. Players Put Faith in Lawyer’s Bold Move&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mikei2</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/the-lawyers-get-the-boot-again/#comment-1097161</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mikei2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know what the NFL &lt;i&gt;doesn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; need?
&quot;...the wherefores, heretofores, and hereinafters.&quot;  
Lawyers, go home.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what the NFL <i>doesn&#8217;t</i> need?<br />
&#8220;&#8230;the wherefores, heretofores, and hereinafters.&#8221;<br />
Lawyers, go home.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Guest</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/the-lawyers-get-the-boot-again/#comment-1097123</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Guest]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d guess that Kessler doesn&#039;t have a strong view of Smith given the comparison of Kessler&#039;s and Smith achievements/pedigrees up to this point - Columbia better than UVA, Dewey way better than Patton Boggs.  And yes, to many lawyers pedigrees is a very important aspect of how they view other lawyers. It doesn&#039;t mean they are worse or better only there is a preception and I&#039;d bet Kessler is a pedigree snob.

I&#039;d also guess that Upshaw had Kessler in his place and let him know when he was needed.  I&#039;d also wager that Kessler believes since he has been around alot longer than Smith that he should have more power than he should.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d guess that Kessler doesn&#8217;t have a strong view of Smith given the comparison of Kessler&#8217;s and Smith achievements/pedigrees up to this point &#8211; Columbia better than UVA, Dewey way better than Patton Boggs.  And yes, to many lawyers pedigrees is a very important aspect of how they view other lawyers. It doesn&#8217;t mean they are worse or better only there is a preception and I&#8217;d bet Kessler is a pedigree snob.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also guess that Upshaw had Kessler in his place and let him know when he was needed.  I&#8217;d also wager that Kessler believes since he has been around alot longer than Smith that he should have more power than he should.</p>
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		<title>By: patswhatsup</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/the-lawyers-get-the-boot-again/#comment-1097118</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[patswhatsup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok....I&#039;m actually going to write this...... Good job De smith......and.....gulp....good job Commish.... 

Understandably lawyers will be needed at some point, perhaps hiring new ones would be best? Kick the idiotically selfish ones to the curb!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok&#8230;.I&#8217;m actually going to write this&#8230;&#8230; Good job De smith&#8230;&#8230;and&#8230;..gulp&#8230;.good job Commish&#8230;. </p>
<p>Understandably lawyers will be needed at some point, perhaps hiring new ones would be best? Kick the idiotically selfish ones to the curb!</p>
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		<title>By: bronco1st</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/the-lawyers-get-the-boot-again/#comment-1097116</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bronco1st]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gee, the Denver post just ran a story saying that the lawyers ARE attending today&#039;s meeting. Who to believe, who to believe?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, the Denver post just ran a story saying that the lawyers ARE attending today&#8217;s meeting. Who to believe, who to believe?</p>
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		<title>By: hawkdawg88</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/the-lawyers-get-the-boot-again/#comment-1097115</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hawkdawg88]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;First thing we do, let&#039;s kill all the lawyers&quot; is actually from Henry VI, Part 2, and it is a line uttered by a bad guy trying to start a revolution, who realizes that lawyers are essential to a functioning society.

That said, businesspeople need to know how to use lawyers to the right ends.  They, not lawyers, need to drive the bus.  You would think the big shots at the NFL would have that down pat by now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;First thing we do, let&#8217;s kill all the lawyers&#8221; is actually from Henry VI, Part 2, and it is a line uttered by a bad guy trying to start a revolution, who realizes that lawyers are essential to a functioning society.</p>
<p>That said, businesspeople need to know how to use lawyers to the right ends.  They, not lawyers, need to drive the bus.  You would think the big shots at the NFL would have that down pat by now.</p>
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		<title>By: time2speakup</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/the-lawyers-get-the-boot-again/#comment-1097114</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[time2speakup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t DeM in fact an attorney?  Then he, of all people had to see (and apparently did) that these schmucks in lawyer suits were hindering the process.&quot;If you hired&#039;em, you can fire&#039;em&quot; so DeM Ol&#039;Son, do that and be done with it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t DeM in fact an attorney?  Then he, of all people had to see (and apparently did) that these schmucks in lawyer suits were hindering the process.&#8221;If you hired&#8217;em, you can fire&#8217;em&#8221; so DeM Ol&#8217;Son, do that and be done with it.</p>
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		<title>By: willycents</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[willycents]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmmmm, let me think.  Anti trust judgement with triple damages.  $4.8B dollars missed wages for one season, triple damages = $15B+ award.  30% to attorneys = $5B+ split to attorneys.  Now why would they possibly try to blow it up?  Three guesses, or 5 billion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm, let me think.  Anti trust judgement with triple damages.  $4.8B dollars missed wages for one season, triple damages = $15B+ award.  30% to attorneys = $5B+ split to attorneys.  Now why would they possibly try to blow it up?  Three guesses, or 5 billion.</p>
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		<title>By: vadog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vadog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, Mike, lawyers are not needed to draw up the agreement either!  Too many people rush to the lawyers to draw up contracts, wills, and other documents that they can do perfectly well and legally on their own.

With the exception of criminal procedings lawyers aren&#039;t really necessary (and even with some criminal procedings, they aren&#039;t necessary.)

In other words, NFL and NFLPA*, saver yourself a few million dollars and just tell the lawyers &quot;we don&#039;t need you guys anymore.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Mike, lawyers are not needed to draw up the agreement either!  Too many people rush to the lawyers to draw up contracts, wills, and other documents that they can do perfectly well and legally on their own.</p>
<p>With the exception of criminal procedings lawyers aren&#8217;t really necessary (and even with some criminal procedings, they aren&#8217;t necessary.)</p>
<p>In other words, NFL and NFLPA*, saver yourself a few million dollars and just tell the lawyers &#8220;we don&#8217;t need you guys anymore.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: prosb4hos</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where&#039;s Franklin and Bash when you need them?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s Franklin and Bash when you need them?</p>
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		<title>By: 4gone</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/the-lawyers-get-the-boot-again/#comment-1097077</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is anyone else concerned that De Smith is now the &#039;voice of reason&#039;??
Perhaps he realized hiring Kessler was the &quot;worst idea in the history of sports&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is anyone else concerned that De Smith is now the &#8216;voice of reason&#8217;??<br />
Perhaps he realized hiring Kessler was the &#8220;worst idea in the history of sports&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: micronin127</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/the-lawyers-get-the-boot-again/#comment-1097075</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So many things have to happen before we get football, that I would say the season is still at risk.

Training camps are late-July.  Some number of weeks for the 400+ free agents to sign contracts and for all the rookies to sign must be accounted for.

The court case must be settled with the NFLPA reformed and both the players and owners voting for the newly negotiated CBA which will take at least a few weeks.

I think that the owners are all meeting next week in Chicago.  It would be great if they had something to vote on and if the players were working through the process of reforming the union in parallel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many things have to happen before we get football, that I would say the season is still at risk.</p>
<p>Training camps are late-July.  Some number of weeks for the 400+ free agents to sign contracts and for all the rookies to sign must be accounted for.</p>
<p>The court case must be settled with the NFLPA reformed and both the players and owners voting for the newly negotiated CBA which will take at least a few weeks.</p>
<p>I think that the owners are all meeting next week in Chicago.  It would be great if they had something to vote on and if the players were working through the process of reforming the union in parallel.</p>
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		<title>By: nflfan101</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[bobwhitequail says: &quot;For the first time I feel like De Smith is working for the players and not Jeffrey Kessler.&quot;
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I agree. Remember that D. Smith is a lawyer and that he started this whole legal mess by walking out of the CBA negotiations, decertifying the union, and then having certain players file suit. However, maybe he is finally learning that, as head of the NFLPA/NFLPA*, he is not suppose to be their lawyer, but he is suppose to be their leader and look out for the players best interest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bobwhitequail says: &#8220;For the first time I feel like De Smith is working for the players and not Jeffrey Kessler.&#8221;<br />
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<p>I agree. Remember that D. Smith is a lawyer and that he started this whole legal mess by walking out of the CBA negotiations, decertifying the union, and then having certain players file suit. However, maybe he is finally learning that, as head of the NFLPA/NFLPA*, he is not suppose to be their lawyer, but he is suppose to be their leader and look out for the players best interest.</p>
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		<title>By: dspyank2k11</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[De-MoSmitty is actually smiling in this picture...

That must be one hell of a great camera to pick up something that quick!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>De-MoSmitty is actually smiling in this picture&#8230;</p>
<p>That must be one hell of a great camera to pick up something that quick!</p>
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		<title>By: smacklayer</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/the-lawyers-get-the-boot-again/#comment-1097068</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[smacklayer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A well trained dog will sit and stay no matter what the distraction. I well trained lawyer should to the same. It is up to the handler to properly train his dog, or in this case Demo to properly instruct his lawyer on why he is there. If not, the dog gets a correction until he learns the correct behavior. Demo just needs to put a shock collar on Kessler and when he starts misbehaving, just give him a small correction. My German Shepherd learns quickly after about 3 times. Kessler should be no different.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A well trained dog will sit and stay no matter what the distraction. I well trained lawyer should to the same. It is up to the handler to properly train his dog, or in this case Demo to properly instruct his lawyer on why he is there. If not, the dog gets a correction until he learns the correct behavior. Demo just needs to put a shock collar on Kessler and when he starts misbehaving, just give him a small correction. My German Shepherd learns quickly after about 3 times. Kessler should be no different.</p>
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		<title>By: quirtevans</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/the-lawyers-get-the-boot-again/#comment-1097063</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[quirtevans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A good deal-making lawyer should facilitate a deal, not get in the way of it.

One of my proudest memories was a several hundred million dollar deal that was about to fall apart.  As both sides started gathering their papers and prepared to walk away, I stopped them and offered a different way of looking at things.  It wasn&#039;t exactly what either side wanted, but it was close enough that they were each willing to live with it.  It got the deal done.

That&#039;s what a deal-making lawyer is supposed to do.  Wringing every last penny out of the other side, at the risk of blowing the deal up, is NOT what a deal-making lawyer is supposed to do.

The two sides here, particularly the union, should ditch their attack dog lawyers and get some lawyers who know how to make a deal happen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good deal-making lawyer should facilitate a deal, not get in the way of it.</p>
<p>One of my proudest memories was a several hundred million dollar deal that was about to fall apart.  As both sides started gathering their papers and prepared to walk away, I stopped them and offered a different way of looking at things.  It wasn&#8217;t exactly what either side wanted, but it was close enough that they were each willing to live with it.  It got the deal done.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what a deal-making lawyer is supposed to do.  Wringing every last penny out of the other side, at the risk of blowing the deal up, is NOT what a deal-making lawyer is supposed to do.</p>
<p>The two sides here, particularly the union, should ditch their attack dog lawyers and get some lawyers who know how to make a deal happen.</p>
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		<title>By: brooklynbully</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brooklynbully]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Put a lockout on them lawyers !!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put a lockout on them lawyers !!!!!</p>
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